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10 things Destiny and Borderlands could learn from each other

GR: "Like two brothers who always bicker, Destiny and Borderlands have a lot more in common than either would probably like to admit. They're both first-person shooters, have a penchant for loot, and work best when played as part of a team of fellow gamers. But, great though they clearly are, neither is perfect.

So, short of banging the two games' heads together (which would be quite harsh and probably land us in trouble with their parents) let's look at what each could learn from the other. Starting with what Destiny does better."

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PONTIAC08G8GT3903d ago

I've got to disagree with some of the items mentioned.

1. Borderlands could learn from Destiny's gun feel
- Sorry but the guns in Destiny are bland. They lack creativity and for the most part, every gun looks the same and only a couple different types. The shooting mechanics are different because Borderlands guns are for the most part, ridiculous lol.

2. Borderlands could learn from Destiny's competitive multiplayer
- Borderlands doesn't need online competitive MP. I don't think the MP in Destiny was very good at all, felt like an afterthought. Borderlands made its name as a single player/co-op looting game. Not online death match with modded weapons and super powers.

3. Borderlands could learn from Destiny's AI
- For most part, I felt that Destiny's AI were bullet sponges. Just standing and hiding behind cover. Whereas Borderlands everything comes to attack you. Destiny you can just sit there and shoot. First raid boss, that spider creature, yea he was really tough, just stood there and let you annihilate him.

Personally, Borderlands is leaps and bounds better than Destiny. Loot system, NPC, level design, sheer amount of locations, each character class is vastly different, more memorable enemies, better guns, and a better story. I know everyone loves Destiny so bring on the disagrees lol.

ImHyjack3903d ago

Well said by Pontiac08 BL is a 100% better shoot and loot game you get 1000s of guns Fire Lighting Ice all the classes feel different with completely unique Bonus powers higher level count more varied enemies giant open world maps satisfying Boss Battles NPC that make a difference in the story humor even if petty or childish still a pleasant aspect to the story. The length of the story progresses with better loot not playing the same 4 or 5 missions 50 times to buy one gun. I'm a LV.27 and that's where I'll be when Destiny 2 comes out it's boring and bland it's a failure in many ways where BL excels.

burza19823902d ago

Gun feel are mechanics no how they looks like and Destiny have a better gun mechanics. Guns in Borderlands are much much better yes but you feel Destiny's gun better when you shooting.
As for the rest, I agree.
I think if we will join these both games together we will be have perfect game.

DougLord3902d ago

Obviously Destiny has A LOT more to learn from BL then vice versa - but BL could learn a few things too. For me MP in BL is an after thought like Diablo. I think it would be great to make a large number of of quests sooo tough that they require a group. Introduce a new tier of ridonkulous gear that is locked to 4-6 man epic raids.

I'd also love them to introduce competitive MP, but not just in instanced BS games like CTF, Dominance or Hutt Ball. Do it like Dark/Demon Souls. If you are solo, 1 other person can enter your zone at a time. If you are in a group, a group of up to the same size can enter your zone at any time. When a group teleports there is a 50% chance they teleport to an open zone. There is a 50% chance they teleport to an occupied zone.

Destiny's biggest problem is the hub and spoke model. The main MP interaction area is totally separate from the action areas. The action areas are instanced, isolated and have nothing in them than bad guys. It should be more fluid like WOW.

I also don't think Destiny's gear is diverse enough. Everyone ends up chasing the same 3 or 4 types of stuff. BL does a MUCH better job by forcing you to pick among Zoom, Accuracy, Fire Rate, Reload Rate, Magazine Capacity and Elemental Effects. But I think they could go further by opening up a few more slots for "tools" or other equipment. Diablo really does the best here. Just choosing a Weapon and Shield doesn't give enough customization.

So yes a BL, Diablo, Destiny, WOW mashup is still a distant dream. Not sure if its better to hope D2 goes there or BL4. BL the Presequel was also disappointing BTW. Haven't heard as much about that. It added very little new stuff to the formula.

gamer93903d ago

Borderlands had unique classes and villians with personality, it had a story for why you are playing the game and shooting the enemy, it didn’t feel like every mission was the exact same mission structure, and most of all it had a great sense of humor. All of those things are completely lacking in Destiny.

Destiny is a shell of a game that has great gunplay mechanics, very addictive grind for loot, and 1 great mission the Vault of Glass.

JeffGUNZ3903d ago

They are different to me. I love borderlands and I love Destiny.

I like all those loot type games, so to me they both do great things. I also try not o compare everything to something like this last gen and this current gen seems to do. I judge destiny on how much fun I am having and if it brings me back day after day. So far it is, but I only play for like 1-2 hours a day at most. Getting older/having a family limits the gaming life. Ah, the good ol' college days, how I miss them.

lemoncake3902d ago

Borderlands is far better than destiny in so many ways.

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Star Wars x Destiny Collaboration: Gear & Cosmetics Launching February 4th

Destiny 2 x Star Wars collaboration is here! Get exclusive gear, cosmetics, and accessories when Heresy launches on February 4th. Don’t miss it!

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Fortnite-ification comes for all live-service games.

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Destiny Mobile spin-off will reportedly be revealed very soon

The long-rumoured Destiny Mobile game from NetEase may finally be ready for reveal according to multiple leakers.

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Xbox Passed On Destiny & Guitar Hero According To Phil Spencer

Phil Spencer talks candidly about missing out on both Destiny and Guitar Hero

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anast297d ago

He paid billions for Starfield. This should be the real story.

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Sciurus_vulgaris297d ago

Microsoft bought all of Zenimax Media for 7 billion, while Sony paid 4 billion for Bungie. I think Microsoft got the better deal due to acquiring Fallout, ElderScrolls and Doom.

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anast297d ago

This can't be true. They only bought Starfield...

InUrFoxHole297d ago

@anast
Should've thought that one out buddy, lol.

anast297d ago (Edited 297d ago )

Yeah, I thought it out. I'm not sure you did. But since we are buddy's now, you're welcome.

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anast297d ago

"Clearly your parents didn't teach you"

You know you lost, when you have to resort to this tactic.

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Profchaos297d ago

So you're saying that Microsoft has missed out on so many huge gaming franchise in the last 25 years from GTA exclusivity to guitar hero and destiny it's just laughable they had so many misses

Reaper22_297d ago

Yea, but they're still 100 times more wealthy than Sony. I would say it worked out well.

Gamingsince1981297d ago

Xbox is dead all that money doesn't help.

Hypertension140297d ago

What has work out well? It sure as hell had nothing to do with Xbox.

andy85297d ago

That isn't because of Xbox though. This is a gaming page, not an I get supplemented by father Windows page

Bathyj297d ago

Microsoft's money has nothing to do with Xbox.
Xbox is a money pit to them they would love to ditch but are after some ROI first.

Let's face it, Xbox is like a red headed stepchild that steals from you to buy drugs.

Hofstaderman297d ago (Edited 297d ago )

MIicrosoft is NOT XBOX. The current situation illustrates this. And Microsoft wants its ROI.

@Bathyj and daddy Satya has just force admitted Phil to rehab.

gold_drake297d ago

you know why MS has so much money, and it aint cause of the gaming xbox branch.

so lets not kid ourselves.

PhillyDonJawn297d ago

Xbox was shown to be more profitable than ps

jznrpg297d ago

@PhillyDownJawn not more profitable. More revenue with ABK acquisition but them going multiplat shows they are not making much profit

ocelot07297d ago

That's great for Xbox gamers ain't it that Microsoft are more wealthy than Sony. Is that really a argument use are using now lol?

Imagine me in my job. Arguing with a fellow security guard at another company. Hahah well the company I work for is worth £800m the one you work for is only work £600m!

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Knightofelemia297d ago

Microsoft may have more money but Sony has the talented studios and the games to back up those studios.

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Chevalier297d ago

Plus turning down Marvel too. Spiderman is only exclusive to Playstation because of that

Hedstrom297d ago

Best deal deal in gaming must be when Sony bought Insomniac for 229 million dollars. They made over 800 millions on Spiderman for the ps4 alone. Thats just crazy!

XBManiac297d ago

More in the 1.000 million now.

gold_drake297d ago

another Interview?

how is he the only one who loves the spotlight as much as he does lol

Futureshark297d ago

Let's not forget he also famously passed on Spider-man, Genshin Impact and GTA3.

However it's almost kind of cute how he can keep that sh1t-eating grin and say he's a 'no regrets' kind of guy, especially when you think how much just these 5 titles could have swung the world in Xbox's favour instead of Sonys.

How he's kept his job I don't know, he must sure be keeping Papa Nadella's shaft warm somehow.

"But, but Gamepass, he introduced that!!!"

Yes he did, and now look at Xbox, all it's exclusives are coming to Playstation now rendering the platform obsolete.

DarXyde297d ago

Honestly, with that kind of track record, you can't convince me Spencer hasn't eaten it from the back in the name of self preservation. Probably unwashed...and at least twice.

That aside, my interpretation of everything here is Xbox has been mismanaged a bit too much and Nadella came down from his throne. The way it is now, I don't believe for a minute the multiplatform move was Spencer's idea. I don't even think the acquisitions was Spencer's work. At this point, I reckon he's got as much power in his role as Hunter Biden at a Ukrainian energy company.

DivineHand125297d ago

You can never tell how things will turn out if he had said yes to those games. Xbox already has access to some great IPs, however, they hardly do anything with them or fail to deliver. It's also possible their presentation wasn't good at the time, and they made sure the next presentation was better.

I believe that part of being successful is releasing things in the right place at the right time.

Many major corporations have a story similar to passing on successful business ideas. Let us look at Sony Pictures for example. Back when Marvel went bankrupt, they had the opportunity to buy the entire Marvel for only $25 Million but turned them down. An unnamed big shot at Sony reportedly claimed that “nobody gives a shit about any of the other Marvel characters,”. They ended up taking Spiderman for $10 Million instead.

https://www.avclub.com/sony...

Fast forward to today, we can see what the Marvel brand has done for Disney. Is it possible the same success would have been possible had Sony acquired those IPs. We can't say that for sure and it is possible most of those IPs that are successful today may not have been used.

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