Assassin's Creed Unity Dev Says "PS4 Couldn't Handle 1080p"

An anonymous developer from Ubisoft weighs in on the 900p scandal surrounding Assassin's Creed Unity, saying that the "PS4 couldn't handle 1080p."

[MRMagoo123]

Yes an "anonymous dev" , shouldn't this be a rumor since it's not known even if this person really does work for ubi, anyone could have written it.

[Mega24]

Twinfinite always take anonymous sources and insiders as fact.

I miss the reliable news site who never would go for clickbait like this, starting chaos and what not.

Edit: I also think PS4 couldn't handle the 1080p for this game, since Ubisoft has never been know to create bug free games, most of their games perform poorly. Far Cry 3 in the other hand has been real nice and performs exceptionally well on old computers.

[xHeavYx]

"An anonymous employee..." That's where I stopped reading

[darthv72]

Correction...PS4 CAN handle 1080p (so can the XB1).

To get there with this game though would mean dialing back the detail. I dont think those who bought a PS4 would want to play an upgraded PS3 version of this game (like black flag).

But its okay Ubisoft...Sony 1st/2nd party teams will show you how its done.

[Why o why]

Lol, anonymous dev.......with Redmond WA ip address

I kid.......kinda

[decrypt]

But the PS4 has GDDR5 RAMZ how could PS4 not handle 1080p?

Sony said PS4 is equal to a high end PC :P Sure they should have packed faster RAMZ. CPU & GPU be damned since those dont count.

[mixolydian_id]

I miss when reliable tech information came from a published book, not a douche "journalist" from Forbes.

[mixolydian_id]

Even sony have stated, the Gddr5 is limited by the CPU.

The moment the CPU handles messages and data, the bandwidth of the gpu gets scaled down.

176 MAX bandwidth. (Never actually reached)
Real world max (providing the CPU is being used during a game) is more like 145 Gb/s.

If laws of theoretical maximums apply, 145Gb/s isn't even real world too.

Check out their own official PDF to devs if you don't believe me?

[starchild]

I agree that we can't ever consider "unidentified sources" as reliable. I wish people were more consistent, though, as far as when they want to listen to anonymous sources or not.

That said, this isn't really any different than what Ubisoft has said several other times. Both consoles were unable to handle what they wanted to accomplish with the game at 1080p. The Xbox One version likely just has a few other compromises in other areas.

[starchild]

Of course the PS4 could handle this game at 1080p, so could the XB1, it's simply a matter of how much they would have to cut back other aspects of the graphics. It's always a trade off.

They probably decided that 900p was a resolution that would give enough clarity for the long draw distances, but would also allow the PS4 version to be able to keep all of the core visual design elements they wanted for the game.

The Xbox One version will probably be pared back in a few areas compared to the PS4 version in order to achieve the same resolution and there may be performance differences as well.

It should look great on all three platforms. This game is doing some really fantastic things in terms of the graphics tech it's using.

[mkis007]

mixolydian_id

That is the same for everything, including the Xbox ones bandwidth.

[oof46]

@darthv72 @starchild: It's not only the graphics and the detail. but also the AI. I guess they just couldn't fit it all in. It's still a wonderful looking game, so far.

[mikeslemonade]

If the lazy devs tried harder it can. Unity isn't a spectacularly looking game either.

[miyamoto]

Okay maybe he did not know that his company recently patched AC Black Flag PS4 version to make it run at 1080p

Okay PS4 can't do 1080p...

next?

but even that patch is kinda suspicious...in light of what's going on

[PeaSFor]

i stoped reading when i saw twinfinite.

[Cha0tik]

More like "We don't know how to optimize the game to perform well on the PS4" lmfao

[UltraNova]

I find the fact that he mentioned Infamous very funny because that game runs @1080p 30-45fps (a lot more pixels than 900p, mind you) all while running very advanced AA, Lighting and particle effects code...

This 'anonymous employee' is as untrustworthy as they get.

[nX]

Too bad that much better looking games are managing 1080p easily. Ubisoft officially started to suck during 2014, congrats!

[turdburgler1080]

So the ps4 can't handle next gen. No suprised there. These aren't $3000 machines. It's sad how many folks will miss out on this game cause it's missing a few pixels. Sombody call a wambulance.

[Neonridr]

@miyamoto - while Black Flag did achieve 1080p, it was not a next gen game in any way, shape or form. They took a 360/PS3 game and upgraded the resolution and added some effects. Something the PS4 should be able to do.

Unity was built from the ground up for PC/PS4/X1, so different ball of wax as they say.

[gman_moose]

Some people need to learn to read the article and not just blindly comment. The person who posted the story said that they were waiting on confirmation of who sent the email, so take it with a grain of salt.

And the email seemed fairly accurate- I'm shocked that they started optimizing at 9fps.

The question still lingers though- if PS4 was a "bitch" as the person stated to get to 900p, how were they able to get the XB1 version there? Something just doesn't add up. If 900p is the absolute best they can do on PS4 while keeping a locked 30fps, that's cool, but I don't expect the XB1 to perform to that level- it technically shouldn't be able to.

[aceitman]

An anonymous developer says this but then theres this
http://n4g.com/news/1604952...

[Roccetarius]

I think this is relevant as well, because if that's true, then it's far more damaging than imagined.

http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

[starchild]

No it isn't. Both versions are CPU bound. It's not like everything can be done with GPGPU. There are definite limitations. If that weren't the case, we could just do away with the CPU and run everything off the GPU with GPGPU. In this case they are using GPGPU to run the cloth simulation, but that doesn't mean everything can run on GPGPU efficiently.

Here is what this Ubisoft dev said:

"Our producer (Vincent) saying we’re bound with AI by the CPU is right, but not entirely. Consider this, they started this game so early for next gen, MS and Sony wanted to push graphics first, so that’s what we did. I believe 50% of the CPU is dedicated to helping the rendering by processing pre-packaged information, and in our case, much like Unreal 4, baked global illumination lighting. The result is amazing graphically, the depth of field and lighting effects are beyond anything you’ve seen on the market"

So, if the CPUs are carrying that much of the load and helping out that much on rendering tasks and AI it's no wonder that both consoles are going to be similarly limited overall.

Now, of course the PS4 will still have a few extra graphics resources that will likely be used for other graphical enhancements over the XB1 version.

They almost certainly won't be graphically identical and the PS4 likely has the better performance as well. This is what I predict we will see when the game is released and analyzed.

[aceitman]

@starchild it is what he says and what the test show are also whats shown in my link. but the only thing that is said in ur reply is the 1st paragraph of what the dev said , after that ur making ur own words . and for u to say - ps4 will still have a few extra graphics resources that will likely be used for other graphical enhancements over the XB1 version, yeah right that parity clause is in effect no matter who thinks it not. and on the more im calling this dev on the bs side they had to sign a as I call a muzzle paper stating they are not to say anything more about the game on the game specs on both systems.

[donthate]

Roccetarius:

I wonder where all the people that supported #PS4noparity tag is now?

Are they going to support #PCnoparity tag?

I certainly don't see them!

[aceitman]

@donthate why would #ps4noparity do with #pcnoparity they are standing for ps4 , that is for pc gamers to do.

[DevilOgreFish]

"Assassin's Creed Unity Dev Says "PS4 Couldn't Handle 1080p""

If they're expecting to implement ultra settings then of course not. I'm just wondering when they're releasing those specs.

[Menkyo]

Not to mention they just had an article that says the ps4 gpgpu had double the power of xbone in ubisoft tests.

[gamertk421]

Perhaps, but that is just one part of the ecosystem.

[decrypt]

Well think of it this way. You look at the PS4 all by it self, its like a 2.0L v6 engine car. Sure that looks terrible by sports car standard.

When Placed near Xbone which can be seen as a 1.0L V4 engine car the PS4 looks great. However place the PS4 near any mid range PC all of a sudden the mid range PC by comparison looks like a v8 with a twin turbo. PS4 all of a sudden looks terrible.

Both the new consoles are weak, the xbone is just more weak.

[darthv72]

keep in mind that is a controlled set of tests and not relative to real world situations.

There is much more that goes on..on screen than what these tests actually represented.

if anything it shows that when it comes to GPU intensive tasks, the GDDR5 and the PS4 'GPU' are a good team.

The same holds true for the DDR3 and the XB1 'CPU' are a good team for CPU intensive tasks.

[u4one]

Watchdogs wasn't 1080p either... and the Xbox and PS4 versions weren't at parity on top of it. The Xbox version was even less.

[die_fiend]

And even on PS4 which supposedly looked better, it still looked pretty awful.

[frezhblunts]

And if it was true no one would accept it either way lol. Wow

[DOMination-]

And yet the proof points to the opposite

Fh2 > dc
quantum break > shadowfall
Halo 5 > Knack
Ryse > contrast
etc.

[-Foxtrot]

LOL, your comparisons are hilarious

Halo 5 to Knack (FPS to a platform game)

Quantum break to Shadowfall (TPS to a FPS)

Not to mention Knack/Shadowfall are both launch games and have different styles.

Come on man.

[BiggerBoss]

This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. I really hope you're just trolling

[oof46]

What about Last of Us > Bejeweled Blitz?

smh

[DrRobotnik]

The funny thing is Knack > Ryse in sales...so um.

[purpleblau]

this is just ridiculous. PS4 couldn't handle 1080p or your dev team just sucks?!

[decrypt]

Naa sorry a mobile tablet CPU paired with last gen mid range CPU just arent good enough.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Sony marketed a low mid range PC as high end.

[Muzikguy]

Headline makes it sound like it's from Ubi. Lmao! This is why I selectively read stories.

Edit: @starchild
They're pretty consistent... Anything to get clicks :)

[ITPython]

lol, if the XB1 can handle 900p with Unity, the PS4 can easily handle 1080p.

Now if the XB1 version was maxed out at 720p, then I might believe that the PS4 could only reach 900p.

[imuze]

They're either trying not to utilize the ps4 or its the greatest looking game ever on ps4. Lol lies

[Big_Game_Hunters]

So when anonymous devs were saying PS4 was going to be stronger than xboxone it was fine?!?

[ramiuk1]

but surely with the power of cloud xb1 should be running it at 1080p to 4k?as it can run AI to the power of 4 xb1 consoles

[MuhammadJA]

Anonymous dev: "PS4 AC:U Couldn't Handle 1080p"

N4G : "Who are these nobodies? They don't know anything!"

Anonymous dev: "PS4 AC:U Could Handle 1080p"

N4G: "Yup! These are trusty people and I believe them!"

It looks like people here just want to hear what they want to believe. Never change, N4G.

[spicelicka]

I don't think it's a big deal if the Order, best looking PS4 exclusive, can't even handle 1080p yet. And let's not forget this is open world.

[Blaze929]

lol OH, so NOW we aren't trusting anonymous statements? Oh the irony of you PlayStation fans

[No_Limit]

I remember those insiders from Neogaf..coufh coufh thuway..cough.. spreading fud about they got the scoop from insiders about all the negative MS leaks and hi-fives and parade were thrown here like it was Christmas or something.

Now the excuses is "anonymous insider, must be a MS employee" LOL

[ZombieKiller]

Yearly releases.
Downplaying the console because the "other guys" either paid you too or you don't have enough time to PROPERLY make the game.
Milking the franchise to the point where (no everyone) people lose interest.....

Didn't call of duty already do all of this?
I was going to make this my first year of buying an assassin's creed game with the co-op in Unity. Not anymore. I refuse to get sucked into a game with this attitude coming from the devs. When Activision did it, I was already years into playing COD, and it deterred me away...guess I won't be touching an AC game for quite a while now.
If it TRULY can't be done, then why is the max resolution the same on both consoles when clearly the PS4 is more powerful? Shouldn't it be like 720P on XB1 then? I think just like it's predecessor the PS3, certain lazy devs don't want to use the extra time/resource to MAKE it happen.

[DragonbornZ]

Finally someone from Ubisoft spoke up (Hopefully as it is an anonymous unofficial response).
Had a feeling neither console could handle the game at 1080p, as well as some other peeps on this site.
Now people just get over it. Unity already looks great, co-op looks great, graphics look great, scale looks great. Just enjoy the game.

[CYCLEGAMER]

LOL...no matter how true this may or may not be.

You cannot tell fanboys that 1080p is not possible on the ps4. It makes them mad.

It should be apparent that with THIS GAME in particular, they couldn't do it. They had no problem with their not being parity with any of there other games, (watchdogs, black flag, trials) why would they now?? Just get over it guys, and stop trying to blame MS.

[FriedGoat]

When a game that looks as crappy as Unity cannot run at 1080p, it really makes you wonder about the team that developed it.

[Charybdis]

think the game looks quite good. however not sure if the image they used in the article represents real game play

[k3rn3ll]

Game looks real good. Better than watch dogs imo. That was at 900p as well. But nobody flipped their shit then. Unity has alot more going on than watch dogs. Now that xbox has 900p too everyone wants to say Unity looks like shit. Funny how the internet works sometimes

[yezz]

@k3rn3ll

But Watchdogs wasn't even 900p on the XO.. How can it handle Unity at that resolution then?

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

"Ubi devs can't reach 1080p on AC:Unity" is the correct statement...of course devs are going to blame the console.

1080p is possible on the PS4. It is possible on the X1. The dev/game is the crux of the issue not the console. From all the games so far, we just know it is more likely on the PS4.

Still I think it is likely a patch will be issued for one or both...but an anonymous dev ain't a source for me. I never saw AC as being so ambitious that it would have such problems, as past games were able to hit 1080p. I'd say someone is stonewalling.

[LamerTamer]

If that is true that the PS4 could only eke out 900p with a more powerful GPU then why is the xbone at 900p too? If the PS4 is struggling to get 900p then the xbone should be at 792p like Watchdogs was. Not only was WD at only 792p on the xbone but it had loads of screen tearing, worse shadows, and no AO.

That means logically either both consoles have exactly the same GPU power, or one was gimped for parity. Since we know they DON'T have the same GPU power (proven time and time again in real world games as well as specs)and the PS4's is proven more powerful then it only leaves the gimped choice.

[nucky64]

dragonborn, a couple of people have ALREADY spoken up - one guy says that 900p is being used to establish parity. another guy says the first guy was misunderstood. NOW, we have an "anonymous" person saying ps4 can't handle 1080p in the first place.

at this point, I don't think anyone should believe anything coming from ubisoft.

[Ctiboi2010]

@nucky64

Isn't it possible (and I may be completely wrong but its just pure speculation) that maybe all three statements from Ubisoft actually fit together and be correct to some degree? The initial report was that Ubisoft aimed for parity between the two consoles due to the inevitable comparisons that would arise from the two versions of the game in regards to resolution and framerate. This is completely believable.

The second report was that the initial developer was misunderstood, but maybe we, the gamers, took it the wrong way. Maybe Ubisoft knew that some gamers would immediately jump to the conclusion that the PS4 version was downgraded SOLELY because of the Xbox One's inability to run the game at 1080p, rather than the possibility (as stated by this anonymous Ubidoft developer) that the game simply couldn't run stably at 1080p on the PS4.

It's a given that the PS4 is a more powerful console than the Xbox One in certain aspects but there is still a question of exactly how much more powerful in real world applications. So, maybe Ubisoft just didn't want comparisons and constant bickering on which version is better between Xbox One- 900p running @ solid 30FPS vs. PS4 1080p @ sub and constant fluctuating 30FPS.

Again, just a thought but it makes sense. If the PS4 indeed wasn't able to have a solid framerate and the Xbox One ran smoothly but at a sub 1080p resolution Ubisoft would get massive backlash from both sides and therefore have a decrease in overall sales and sub par reviews for the game. It would make sense for them to choose a slightly lower resolution as to not take a hit in framerate that could negatively affect gameplay, which should be the main focus of a good game.

[aceitman]

@Ctiboi2010 this is ubisoft test shows ps4 53% more powerful heck they did 1080p with black flag and u are supposed to get better at developing games not go backwards.
http://www.worldsfactory.ne...

[DragonbornZ]

@nucky64 All of the statements fall back to limitations of the hardware. Even the guy who talked about about parity explained bottlenecks they faced with the CPU in a weird amount of detail considering he started talking about parity.

They've been on the same lines, talking about limitations all this time with each persons overall message being somehow different and contradicting one another, so i'm always skeptical of what they say, and I acknowledged above that the person is anonymous, though if verified i'm glad he had the balls to come out and say such a statement straightforward.

I'll admit that i'm a bit bias towards the statement since I felt it was the case all along, so I still remain cautious and accept the fact that they could just be bull-sing, but also that the limitation explanation (Dat rhyme doe :D) makes sense.

"at this point, I don't think anyone should believe anything coming from ubisoft." Then overall what do we take from everything that's been said? They're lying? They did force parity? They really couldn't reach 1080p? Their studio sucks at communicating with one another in the studio for a statement?
We have to come to some conclusion, and i'm leaning towards this one more for reasons I explained above. I see how others could lean more or completely the other way though.

[Yetter]

"one guy says that 900p is being used to establish parity"

That is not the quote. Don't put words in his mouth

[Ctiboi2010]

@aceitman

I read that article as well. Isn't that 53% only referring to the dancers for cloth movement? If so, It doesn't equal a 53% more powerful system overall when you take into account all of the other aspects of making a game. That's what I was referring to when I said the verdict is still out on the actual real world applications. We can't only focus on one number and immediately assume it means 50% power advantage. Again, I'm not arguing that the PS4 isn't more powerful than the Xbox One, because by now it's pretty apparent that for gaming it is.

[k3rn3ll]

They are referring to a cloth simulation system they developed recently. Used to be a cpu task but moved it onto the gpgpu. Before when it was on cpu the xbox one was better at it. Once they moved it to gpu the ps4 was able to handle around twice as many objects as xbox.

So what you are referring to is that the xbox has a better cpu while ps4 has better gpu. Again this is just one scenario. But even then it's really not telling us anything that we didn't already know.

The anonymous employee in OP is talking about how they used the CPUs to process alot of their effects as gpus still weren't powerful enough. As much as 50% stress nearly constant. Either way neither article really gives any credence to any side of the argument. Except for the level headed people who realize that there are a hell of alot more variables involved than what people think. You can't take a benchmark from one specific scenario and prove that Unity is being held back by either console.

[Unspoken]

Wow, you guys had to spoon feed these kids on here and give a "but PS4 is faster than Xbox One" disclaimer.

If that isn't coddling children throwing a tantrum over their misunderstandings of technology and Ubisoft's comments I don't know what is.

Bravo, Bravo

[nucky64]

hey unspoken - I'm not sure of your point (if there is one) but nice "off topic" post.

[tlougotg]

Youll be the .... to believe this bs. If off the jump we had a gorgeous open world game like Infamous at 1080p wtf makes u think a bs %ss Creed game cant be 1080p on ps4 lol Listen first party studios will show you how its really done and dont have to worry bout pissing off fans from other platforms lol

The ppl here kill me and believe this bs, its incredible what ppl will believe.

[Immorals]

Infamous doesn't have that much going on in the ways of ai. Unity has thousands

[Ctiboi2010]

@thougotg

How do you know Assassins Creed: Unity will be a bull S%!t game?

You're right, Infamous: SS looks great and is at 1080P, but the game didn't have the most complicated AI which is something the new AC: Unity is touting as one of the great features of the game. Better AI= more calculations which take more power. On top of that, comparing the optimization of a Multi platform game to a console exclusive doesn't necessarily seem fair. Exclusives always have more time to optimize for a specific system.

Also, the game looks great so I can understand why they may have some issue getting the game to run at 1080p with a solid framerate. I don't understand what aspect of this game makes you believe it's BS, especially when a lot of us haven't played it at all or nearly enough to form a real opinion about it.

[Yetter]

The streets were empty in InFamous. Not a fair comparison

[BitbyDeath]

AI is CPU, res is gpu. Your comment is irrelevant.

[andrewer]

@BitbyDeath Resolution IS NOT only GPU related. How do you think the GPU knows what to print on screen? The CPU must tell it. If it's more pixels (higher resolution), it's more data to send to the GPU. Now imagine the CPU trying to determine where each NPC on screen will take the next step AND having to send that much information (the image with 1080p) 60 times per second to the GPU. It's like a kid pushing his mom's shirt to make her pay attention to him while she's talking with her boss...
PS: I'm taking no position, but sometimes I just can't pass by mistakes like that.

[rainslacker]

@andrew

regardless of how much info the CPU has to send to the GPU, it's going to be the same no matter what the resolution is. This is why the CPU can affect frame rate, as the frame can't be drawn until it gets that info from the CPU, but doesn't affect resolution because the GPU already has the assets it needs to process the resolution of the frame.

This is why GPU compute is so important. Because there is less lag between the processes. Ironically, another article stated that Ubi's own tests show the PS4 can move info faster to the GPU, so your reasoning doesn't hold up as much, because I doubt the CPU in the PS4 is so much slower that it would cause it to be able to process 50% less at a time.

[gangsta_red]

Infamous SS didn't have 4 player co-op either. Not to mention as others pointed out nearly as many NPC's on the streets.

Funny no one is willing to believe an anonymous developer from Ubi but all to quick to believe MS paid Ubi to "gimp" AC:Unity for the sake of parity.

Yea...out of all the games MS is backing, this is the one they want to have parity for.

[andrewer]

@rainslacker I understand what you're saying, but as I said, I'm taking no position - it's indeed difficult to support Ubisoft's statements without details about both their use of CPU AND PS4's architecture. What I can't let run wild is the misinformation people are propagating about resolution not having anything to do with CPU - as I said, higher resolution, more pixels to send to GPU. I don't think the CPU sends ALL the pixels (raw information), there's probably a compression method, but the data to send IS larger and that's a fact. 1080p = 1920x1080 = 2.073.600 pixels, 900p = 1600x900 = 1.440.000. So it's close to 2/3 of the information, and thus more time to process other stuff. Even @30fps this can be big deal if the program is CPU bound. But whether this happens because of bad programming or is just parity I don't care, but resolution DOES affect the CPU.

And even if the transfer between CPU-GPU is faster on PS4, the difference still is HUGE - anything outside the CPU takes too much time to travel, that's the reason we need CPU cache, and several levels of it, because even the RAM is too far away. But again, unified memory and stuff, the system's architecture is a very important detail on this matter.

[rainslacker]

@andrew

That's the thing. The CPU doesn't send individual pixels to the GPU. It sends transform information to the GPU, which the GPU then uses to process the image into whatever resolution it's set at. This is why resolution is independent of the CPU. In fact, all assets for rendering a frame(the actual graphics parts) don't ever have to touch the CPU at all. The GPU can access it directly from memory. All the CPU has to do is tell the GPU to access it, and nowadays, that's not even always necessary, or even preferable.

This is why no matter the resolution, the amount of information being sent to the GPU will always be the same. In AC:U case, they are sending a ton of transform information. As to why the PS4 may not be able to reach 1080p, it may be because there just are so many assets on screen, and the more draw calls a GPU has to make to render an image certainly does affect the resolution, but those draw calls aren't determined by the CPU.

For framerate it's a different matter. Every frame generally needs that transform information before it can be processed(there are workaround so it's not 100% true). Because of this, if more data has to be transferred between the two, then it will obviously take longer to update the frame information, thus causing frame rate to drop if the GPU can't get information in time.

[andrewer]

@rainslacker the GPU gets the assets for the rendering from the memory ok, but the raw image as well (the CPU just sends the address or something)? If so, PS4's unified memory should be heaven for the devs, and there would be no problem with it being 1080p...But would the devs really lie about it or is there something else?
PS: It looks like I was wrong before, Bubble Up for ya :D

[LamerTamer]

@rainslacker - "As to why the PS4 may not be able to reach 1080p, it may be because there just are so many assets on screen"

The whole problem with that and one so many seem to miss or gloss over is the fact that the xbone is also running at 900p. That statement assumes both consoles have identical power and hardware. Now your logic would hold if the xbone was only rendering at 792p or something like that. Since BOTH have "so many assets on screen", the same assets basically with the same basic CPUs. Since the weaker xbone GPU can do 900p it stands to reason that the PS4 could then do 1080p with the extra GPU power.

It is like having a PC that can run a game at certain resolution. Then you only upgrade the graphics card. Now with the same CPU you can increase your resolution due to the new better graphics card. The PS4 is like an "xbone PC" with an upgraded graphics card. There should then be an increase in resolution unless it is intentionally held at parity.

[rainslacker]

@andrew

I'm not sure what the rendering pipeline is for the Ubisoft engine, so I can't say for sure, but both next gen systems were set up so the GPU's could circumvent the CPU for most processes. ESRAM especially is meant to ignore the CPU for getting resources, and the PS4 is set up to manage memory in whatever way the developer needs through the memory controller. The CPU is likely only used to initiate the assets loading, but once a scene is loaded, I would assume that the GPU would know the memory address of any resource it may need.

@Lamer

My assumption was on the basis that it could possibly do more than 900p, but possibly not 1080p. There is a lot going on on screen in some cases in the game. Because of that, again, depending on how the rendering pipeline is set up, it could certainly affect the resolution of the game, but the draw calls wouldn't be dependent on the actual frame information that the CPU would provide...or at least the CPU's impact on such a thing would be fairly minimal in the grand scheme of things(like it may say remove/add an asset to the scene for effects or something).

What it comes down to is that no one outside the developers knows for sure how the game is set up. I'm inclined to believe that a good chunk of their code is CPU bound, which could effect frame rate. I'm a little less inclined to believe that the CPU is holding back the resolution. If it is, they have a rather inefficient rendering pipeline for how the next gen consoles are set up. I'm willing to say that it's possible that the PS4 could do more than 900p, but can't quite get to 1080p, so the devs devided to cap it at 900p. I'm also willing to concede that the PS4 may have a higher frame quality in lighting or effects at 900p, which we just don't know yet because we don't have the two to compare.

[CaptainObvious878]

Yup, we can all go home now people. Even though we had the executive producer come out and say they held back the resolution, we have this anonymous dev set the record straight. Now we can drop this whole issue. /s

[AutoCad]

considering the amount of things going on at once in the game,i believe this guy..Never have seen this many enemies or civilians on a screen,besides dead rising.

[Jughead3416]

After the very first reason they gave for 900P, there's nothing they can say now to take it back, smooth it over, damage control,etc. They meant what they said the first time.

[CaptainObvious878]

Anything the xbone can do, the PS4 can do with better performance.

That's not opinion, that's fact.

[Notramagama]

Multitasking? Online stability? Media Functionality? Voice/gesture/biometric detection? App/Updates Support?

[AutoCad]

Resume from standby..

[MRMagoo123]

@Notramagama and Autocad

I think its obvious he meant gaming wise considering this is a topic about a game not one about apps.

[IvanCRO95]

That's like saying XBOX ONE couldn't handle 900p

[Master-H]

Exactly, they're like denying that there is a power difference between the PS4 and the X1s GPUs, even the RAM difference.
This is "An anonymous employee." though. The truth is pretty much what their producer said the first time, parity.

[Yetter]

The original dev blamed the CPU bottleneck. When comparing CPUs the PS4 is not more powerful than the XB1

[MRMagoo123]

@yetter

The dev said they went for parity to avoid "debates and stuff" and thats why both are 900p he then started talking about the A.I and the cpu bottleneck in a different topic, it is not linked.

[yewles1]

"The game was 9fps 9 months ago."

After 4 years dev time? ROFLMFAO!!! Official Ubi PR isn't even THIS bad... yet.

[neoandrew]

But 4 years ago they didn't have any next gen console, even any dev box and as you may know or not, optimization is made last, very last.

[OculusRift]

"An anonymous developer from Ubisoft" with a mountain of salt.

[redfire_bt]

Well of course they are gonna say that NOW

[Rimgal]

"An anonymous employee from Ubisoft ..."

How do you even know if he's a Dev?

[xtremexx]

lol he's the janitor, he just wants someone to love him.

[Bhuahahaha]

he got proof

http://cdn.gottabemobile.co...

the very reason why ps4 cant handle 1080p

[bleedsoe9mm]

there was an email sent into to yesterdays giantbomcast from an anonymous ubi employee saying the same thing .

[OculusRift]

And these guys took it and ran with it for hits.

[bleedsoe9mm]

in the end the proof will be in the game , we'll all know a true next gen experience when we play it whether it visuals , AI or gameplay .

[gangsta_red]

Sounds pretty reasonable, like I said to someone I was having a convo with on this site. This game is specifically built for the next gen consoles unlike other Ubi titles that were cross gen. Not to mention this game is bigger, has multi player co-op and who knows what else.

So you just can't compare OLDER Ubi titles and say if they can do it for those old titles, then they can definitely do it for this brand new built from the ground up game.

Should we take this article for truth...who knows. But it sounds way more valid and reasonable than blaming Ubi and MS having some uber meeting in a dark room beneath the gates of hell and discussing intentionally screwing the PS4 over for whatever reason.

[oof46]

The thing is, it would do a studio no good to tank a version of a game. This is kind of reminiscent of a group of gamers up in arms that the xbox 360 and ps3 versions of Shadow of Mordor have a scaled back nemesis system. I'm pretty sure the people at Monolith are working their damnedest trying to push the old systems. Just as the devs at Ubi are, in my opinion, trying to push the xbox one and ps4 as much as they can.

But, under the table deals are much more fun to rant about. :)

[GryestOfBluSkies]

i don't buy it. coincidentally, I'm not buying the game either (more because im not a big fan of the series)

[Mornzie]

why would you keep yourself anonymous?

Oh wait... that's why..

[Halo2ODST2]

So he wouldn't get fired, are you that thick?

[Aces17]

No, no. Impossible, he's wrong. Nope, I don't believe it. He may be a developer but I know that's not true. -PS Fanboy.

[georgenancy]

'Anonymous dev'

[Spotie]

Yep. We don't know who he is or if he even exists, but it's right. Even though everything points to this being some major BS, this is definitely the truth.

-Straw graspers

[extermin8or]

Um sorry I can't trust this as true without actual proof. Also if it was truly 9fps less than a year ago then ot.could almost certainly reach 1080p what he really means is they don't have the months of time to get there. However I really don't have an issue with 900p so....

[SquillieDeeWilliams]

Jaaaaaaaaaamn!!!

[Slevon]

Its not the first game and it wont be the last. Will it still be good? very likely

[mike32UK]

This is ridiculous. I'm sorry, but with the right engine optimisation, both of the consoles could easily manage 1080p. The issue lies in the fact that there are hundreds of different people on different teams working on one single game, many of which don't even share any contact.

[Kayant]

9fps prefect for the filmic framerate Ubisoft like :p

Still I will wait and see how that 1-2fps difference. We have had that statement so many times and it's never really happens.

[kingduqc]

You guys act like the ps4 does not have a 7850 with a slow ass gpu... it's clear hardware is limiting the res.

[d_g]

agree whith him

[d_g]

*With*

[Tedakin]

This isn't the first non 1080 game on PS4. Maybe it actually COULDN'T handle it. It's a video game console, it's not a miracle.

[Assassingamer136]

Yeah the first one was another ubisoft and the only game to not hit 1080p..go figure. And I love how this statement specifically targets ps4 fans. Doesn't do it professionally by stating the ps4 and xbox one can't handle 1080p but obviously targets the ps4 brand. This is from an anonymous source as well why the hell are people disagreeing with the fact people are stating that this is possibly not true and made up since there is no confirmation of who said this? It clearly says for ubisoft so what does he have to hide? You already exploited your company as it is. I don't care if you respond "oh but ps4 fans always believe anonymous souces when its negative towards the xbox" I don't give two craps about it. I don't believe those sources either, so why do you categorize people like me with that kind of group?

[jmac53]

Ubisoft devs, please meet with Naughty Dog devs so they can show you how to optimize.

[Crazay]

Well it's easy to jump onto the ND wagon to say these guys can make pigs fly or whatever but fact is - we've really not seen anything from ND as far as what they're doing. Will UC4 be amazing? NO DOUBT about it but let's think about it a moment.

TLoU is gorgeous on PS3 and equally so on PS4 but it's not like there's 30, 40 or even 100 characters on the screen at any given time. It's just static backgrounds and environment with maybe 10 enemies on the screen at most at any given time. The new AC is going to feature the same level if not greater detail on those backgrounds and environments while at the same time delivering a real breathing universe all coupled with 100s or more NPCs milling about doing whatever they're designed to do. Not to mention the AI of any guards or bad guys that may be chasing you or on the lookout. When has ND done that? By my estimation - Never. If you can prove me wrong, please do.

Uncharted didn't even do anything close to that on the PS3. We don't know if they're going to do that with UC4 yet. They may. And if they manage to do the same sort of thing with Drake in a huge crowded city with 100s or more NPCs and they manage to push it to 1080p 60fps then and only then should you use the ND optimization card.

[rainslacker]

In the first part of TLOU there was a section where you were running through a crowd of about 30-40 people. It looked just as good as the rest of the game.

Granted, the AI for them was mostly scripted, but they did react to the player should you touch or approach them. I'm sure Unity has better AI, but from what I've seen, they mostly just stand around and get all pissy when you bump into them...so I'd imagine their AI is just as scripted as TLOU or every single other AC game has been. I really have no idea where or when people started to think that Ubi could pull off amazing AI in an AC game...it has never had that.

I guess the big question is...would you rather have a much better looking game while sacraficing say half of the NPC's who you will never see or even interact with? 90% of the NPC's are just eye candy, which ironically brings the other eye candy you will notice down.

[Ezz2013]

"static backgrounds and environment"

what is this?!
you interact with environment in TLOU all the time

not a single place in TLOU or Uncharted 2/3 is Static ...if you think that then every single game only have Static backgrounds
you make it sound like you are talking about RE1 or something
what Ubisoft is doing Different other than the same open world and even the gameplay looked the same

"Not to mention the AI of any guards or bad guys that may be chasing you or on the lookout. "

hmmm, that's happen in TLOU all the time
they even wait you in rooms and attack you from behind and they flank you too

i aslo don't get where you got this idea that this new Assassin's Creed game have amazing AI
watched all the videos and the Ai is the same as all their others Assassins creed games

[Yetter]

learn the difference between multiplat development and first party development. Wanna know why Forza Horizon is so incredible?

[Crazay]

@rainslacker

"In the first part of TLOU there was a section where you were running through a crowd of about 30-40 people."
I know exactly what part you're talking about and I would be shocked to say the least if the numbers were higher than 20. Of course I never counted but we're still not talking the same scope that ACU is doing.

"I guess the big question is...would you rather have a much better looking game while sacraficing say half of the NPC's who you will never see or even interact with?"

That's a fair question and a valid point - in complete honesty, I'd rather have a more immersive environment with the hustle and bustle. I'd rather it felt like a true city.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

I think you need to learn the difference between an open world game with huge crowds and Linear only move foward game.

[Ezz2013]

"Linear only move foward game"

lol, what this game you are talking about ?!
not a single ND game is like that
do you even own playstation console ?!
because from your comment history you only praise nintendo
and bash Sony and MS all the time

[HaveAll3]

My only thing is why is it so hard to believe? Watchdogs was 900p on ps4 and before a patch black flag was too. From what vids and screens I've seen Unity looks graphically better.

[MRMagoo123]

People find it hard to believe because its the same on the xbone where all those other games were not, so they cant be pushing both consoles as hard as they claim they are, because if that where fact the PS4 would have advantages.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

And the fact that it contradicts what another Ubisoft developer said...! You know...900p to avoid any debates and such.

[StormLegend]

Just please make the frame rate better I watched xb1 gameplay and the fps were dropping into the 20's!!!

[ScorpiusX]

Cool I guess, not that it really bothers me in the least . Game looks amazing.

[jackwei22]

If comments like this keeps on coming out of Ubisoft then this will reflect bad upon them as this series will not be making much of a profit on the Sony Console this year. Sorry but you don't treat your fans this way as they will now lose faith in you.

[Flames76]

Smart people already knows this no need to keep talking about it.Sony fanboys dont understand it but they dont matter.They have become an embarrassment to the gaming industry time to ignore them.Now lets game and cant wait for assassin's creed first one i will have ever bought of the series.I will be picking it up for the XOne at the halo launch.

[Assassingamer136]

Ps4 has double the userbase that the xbox one has. If a big budget game like this was only selling only on the xbox one they would be bankrupt, so yeah actually ps4 fans do matter, they actually matter more than the xbox fans. The game can survive on its own on the ps4, on the xbox one? Hell no.

[marioJP87]

LOL. No "Next gen" console can handle every game at 1080P minimum when 1080P format has been available for longer than 10 years. This is a shame for PS4 if this is true. 1080P still struggles to become the norm. SMH these consoles really are way under powered.

[WeaseL]

probably the same sauce Mr x uses

[masterfox]

Hi BS how are you ?

:)

[Neo_Zeed]

First off... I don't believe this unknown person is truthful.

Should his words be true... it just reaffirms my current understanding that Ubisoft is a shitty developer not worthy of being considered AAA. I'd bet money that Rockstar Games could have done it if they owned AC franchise.

[Mithan]

Am the only who doesn't care here?

[SquillieDeeWilliams]

Nope, 900p can be beautiful, I'm an X1 owner and trust me, it'll look great...

[MultiConsoleGamer]

CPU.

[its_JEFF]

If this is true, then I guess they really haven't used the GP part of these, X1 & PS4, GPGPU's.

It's interesting that one of the Dev's from Ubi just did a Euro GDC presentation where they showed how much more on screen characters they could display when they used the "GP" part of these GPGPU's on both the X1 & PS4. By that presentation, if they're even implementing it in Unity, the PS4 version should, should, have more characters on screen or maybe slightly more detail characters/models... If they're going to use each platform to it's fullest extent of course, which may not make sense from a $$$ stand point.

[kevnb]

I believe it because the game engine is pretty poor.

[Azzanation]

If you really want to play Assanins Creed Unity at 1080p+ without any broken promises then why not invest in a PC? Fanboys these days seem to live and die on 1080p yet refuss to venture into PC gaming where 4k is even an option. Trust me PC gaming pays for itself in the long run and will always offer the best multiplatform games in the world.

[mysteryraz11]

of course the ps4 can, nearly every multiplat is running at a higher resolution on the ps4 version then the x1 version, its a unknown source so dont pay any attention to this ubisoft are crap developers, far cry3, watch dogs now this, cpu wouldnt matter if the gpu is stronger they aint using it,and why arent they using gpgpu thats supposed to be offload the task of the ai running on the cpu

[NeoGamer232]

People really have to give their head a shake around here. The whole 1080p and 60 fps conversation is on the ridiculous side...

[PaleMoonDeath]

Hahaha! sure about that Ubisoft? sounds like damage control.

[iTechHeads]

lol

[Subaruwrx]

It sounds like the developer got overly ambitious with the AI/NPC stuff. I have a PS4 and I will buy a good game regardless of the resolution - Watch Dogs is one of my favorite games of the year. In this case however, there's so much defensive bs coming out of Ubisoft about AC Unity, I'm starting to think the game will suck. I will always take better performance over more on screen npcs. Imo, this is not a PS4 vs Xbox 1 issue, it's a poor game design choice on the developers part.

[corroios]

So tired of this topic. Ubisoft drop the ball. So Unity must be something out of this world in term of graphics! like Watch dogs, lol.

There must be hundreds of carachters on screen and amazing FX effect, everything in real time, heavy AA, brand new AI...

Unity must be the next goty game. Just, lol.

I just hope that gamers dont by this crap and show ubisoft that we dont want crappy games from an average franchise.

Ubisoft is not a triple A developer. Not even close.

[Predaking77]

While I know the PS4 version will still be superior to the X1 even at the same resolution, I will not buy this game as I don't support what Ubisoft did and I raise my voice with my wallet, they obviously had a deal with Microsoft (AC bundle) and I'm sure having 1080p on PS4 would damage that deal.

[gamefanatic007]

Translation: "We couldnt figure out how to get the PS4 to run 1080p..we're stupid..so.. 900p for EVERYONE! Mwuhaahahahhahaa!"

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

Not with that many on-screen objects it couldn't.

[5eriously]

Sure, we believe you!
/sarcasm

[hello12]

Finally its shown the x box CPU is faster, i told you guys for months that was the case.

18vs12 Yes 18 CU's can be used for graphics but 14 is the balance because you get minimal graphic improvement after 14CU's Sony leaked document stated that and Microsoft said the same thing too.

http://cdn.vgleaks.netdna-c...

Sony 14+4 setup is better than the 12 CU setup for Microsoft, lets be honest have we seen a 50 per cent difference with games for both platforms? Not yet anyway.

DF are useless they say the Evil within has a smoother frame rate on PS4 though their own video shows the PS4 version drop into the 20's come on x box 1 lowest was 25 to 26. And they have the balls to claim the PS4 version was smoother really?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

The reason why ACU for PS4 wasn't 1080p was obvious to me the frame rate was likely all over the place at that resolution so they had to drop it down.

Subaru@ I was born with eyes the video is prove never mind DF and its usual crap. The video is prove (evidence) the frame rate is worse on PS4. DF should be focusing in why the PS4 version drops to 20fps instead they make excuses and claims the 30fps for PS4 is smoother, at 20fps really?

[Subaruwrx]

You're pulling stuff out of your a-s. Here's the full story: http://www.eurogamer.net/?t... DF wasn't thrilled with the performance of either the PS4 or X1 versions

[its_JEFF]

So how do you explain the European GDC talk that a Ubi dev just gave about GPGPU? Where the output of the PS4 was double that of the X1 when the GPU was given GP task? Or are you just hoping that nobody ever uses it...

I can understand defending your "system," but when you just come out to say "I told you so," and don't actually understand what you're talking about. Or just taking one bit of info and using that as your "Proof" so that you can feel better about yourself is just sad, just STOP.

It's a FACT, the PS4 is the more powerful console. There is just no getting around it, it just is. Don't talk about CU's/18vs12 like you know what you're talking about. You can't pick and choose points that only reenforce your points when counter points exist. Just accept it, you'll enjoy your game much more that way... trust me. Go play Sunset Overdrive, I hear its going to be real good or Forza Horizon 2, that seem like a great title... Stop pissing in the wind.

[LamerTamer]

"The reason why ACU for PS4 wasn't 1080p was obvious to me the frame rate was likely all over the place at that resolution so they had to drop it down."

So both consoles are identical in power and the GPUs are the same? That would have to be true by your statement. If the PS4 res had to go down to 900p then the xbone should be at 792p as it is weaker in the GPU area and GPU effects resolution most. Since they are both at the same resolution then they went for parity, simple.

It is not just CUs either it is ROPs etc, etc, not going to spout the list again. The PS4 is just more powerful in the graphics department.

[triangle_todd]

That the game allegedly uses 25GB just for lighting screams bullshit to me, hence I'm very doubtful on the statement as a whole.

[Spore_777]

It's almost... Believable >_>

[NerdStalker]

The graphics look amazing, it would have looked even better if it was 1080p though.

[ncc-017]

Bullshit

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I knew the dev was lying.. N4G knows way better when it comes to developing Unity.. I mean what do the guys that make the game know?

I would say this is BS if all games on PS4 were 60/1080p but they are not.

[Geekman]

I highly doubt this guy is from Ubisoft, because I don't see why a developer would feel the need to say this and enrage fans even more. People are already convinced Ubisoft are a bunch of dirty liars who shot their dog and squished their Gramdma. But I will say that it's really early for consoles to be constantly be running 1080p games, especially with Unity's amount of content.

[gluv65]

Can someone explain to me, how at UBISOFT being a big dev/pub house with access to Sony and MS when building these machines. How could they build a game based on the CPU, when all the data shows that both of these machines where built GPGPU in mind and as an industry that is where the programming is heading. I don't understand why they would do such a dumb thing. Spend 4 years building your game based on a CPU when you knew both machines were GPGPU driven. I'm lost.

[obmas]

You are gullible if you believe this. It's just PR. They've already admitted to gimping the resolution of PS4 so that it runs equally on to the XB1.

[S2Killinit]

"anonymous" lol either its BS or Ubi doesn't have the guts to come forth and say it like a man.

Fact of the matter is Ubi has made at least some sort of a contract with MS in my opinion, as evidenced by the fact that for the first time, they are placing the xbox version in the front of the PS4 version copy of the game in advertisements (which wouldn't make sense considering that the larger segment of their customers are on Playstation, and not just due to the larger install base but because Assassin's Creed sells more on PS consoles historically) AND the by the fact that Xbone will have a bundle for the game. It is very likely that one of the provisions of the contract included a "parity" clause; as in "MS agrees to pay such amount of money in consideration for Ubisoft making the game on a "most favored nations" AKA "parity", AKA treated no worse than any other version of the game." If this is true, shame on both of them. The gamers deserve better than their money politics.

[johny5]

One word! #ParityGate

[ATi_Elite]

BF4 ps4 900p
Killzone Shadow Fall Mp sub 1080p
The Witcher 3 PS4 already announced 900p

So why is it so hard to believe that AC:U may have to run sub 1080p on the ps4 after all it is said to use advanced ai in a huge open world and the ps4 xb1 CPU both are weak and running sub 2ghz.

Any game that is truly next gen will run sub 1080p on both consoles. Sony got you sheeple to drink the kool-aid but the sub 1080p truth is gonna be a little sour to stomach.

Just be glad the game runs and is trying to push gaming along instead of giving you guys 1080p ps1 games.

Play games not resolution BUT can't wait at to play AC:U at 4k.

[gluv65]

Witcher 3 hasn't shown anything or said anything about the PS4. It has only been shown on the XB1 because MS marketing deal.

[chaosx]

900p will work better with PSNow later anyway, so its in Sonys interest to back track on this 1080p thing

[ziggurcat]

*cough*BS*cough*

especially after this:

http://www.worldsfactory.ne...

[ainTgoTTime2bleed]

''Assassin's Creed Unity Dev Says "PS4 Couldn't Handle 1080p''
Kojima(mgs5), Sucker Punch (ISS), Bungie (Destiny) AND MANY OTHERS SAY: GTFO! and GFYS!

[Revengeance]

Well now it didn't take long for the Xboners to come out of the woodworks and believe this BS. If a homeless man on the side of the street called himself an Ubi dev and said it couldn't achieve 1080p on PS4 they would all believe it as the gospel. They let the internet brainwash them into believing lies.

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

I believe them so mmuch! /s
Sorry, this PS4 owner can't handle AC:Unity.

[DarXyde]

Yeah, that bit about frame rate doesn't make sense. Period. The only way you can lock a framerate is if it's running well enough above the target even under the heaviest conditions (thus, it should be around 31-32 in the worst moments). They never should've said anything because now they aren't going to be able to talk their way out of it when it releases. Either the two versions will be disparate (which will probably piss Microsoft off) or they will be the same (which will piss off the Sony faithful since it's obvious they just didn't use the PS4's extra horsepower for anything and meaning they really did hold the platform back for the sake of parity).

I wish they would just admit what they are doing instead of making excuses. It's not the end of the world, but just be honest. No use trying to aggravate your customers.

[ScaryMonkey]

LOL, "An anonymous developer" so this article is bogus just to rile up the fanboys, no one willing to go on record means it never happened, carry on.

[Horseheadinthebed]

All of this is just speculation, why believe someone who stays anonymous? Could be just a fanboy trolling. If people are that pent up over resolution then wait until the release of the game before commenting. I no longer preorder and wait for other gamers comments on a game before deciding to buy. Ubi needs to release an official statement on this but as the game is still in development I doubt if we will see one yet....

[Jaqen_Hghar]

Oh please. Just stop bringing it up Ubi and maybe the shitstorm would blow over eventually. Right now unless you're talking some other enhancement you gave the PS4 version to actually take advantage of the power gap you should stop talking about it.

[jhpadilla]

Ubisoft (now with their "anonymous devs" PR) is adamant in shooting themselves in their feet, kneecaps, and guts. It's like knowing the Titanic is headed for an iceberg and then going full speed thinking that their 'unsinkable' ship will magically remain afloat.

Pathetic, and of course I'm not buying either the PR nor the game.

Thank God we have excellent of better games in the present and future.

[MAULxx]

Story quality- WTF?
Like this website- No.
Done

[ELpork]

.....was this not a email on the giant bomb cast?

[Meltic]

thank you MSI Gtx 970 PC !

[ion53]

With the PS4 version being at 900p, I really do expect better effects and FPS

[Sheikah]

It's running Anvil Next.... I don't think the anonymous source is legit

[iistuii]

It's so funny, if this guy had said the Xbox One couldn't handle 1080p you'd all be applauding him. We do know that both the consoles aren't as powerful as the dev's would like or they would be putting out ALL games at 1080/60, but they are either 900/60 or 1080/30, which is why he is probably saying it. Of course they can both do 1080p, but it depends what they take away elsewhere to make it that.

[Ninver]

And my wallet can't handle this game. Bargain bin it is for me. Unlike others I have a very strong code and I stick to it, especially with devs pulling stunts like this.

[jay2]

bullsh** lors of ganes have hit 1080 on ps4 excluvly abd both consoles abd been bwtter on ps4

[totalrecoilzz]

doesnt surprise me the ps4 and xbone are both really under powered..i own a ps4 and all i see is jaggies everywhere like on fifa 15 the jaggies sometimes look like ps2..this is another reason why you see lots of people hating on this current gen and wondering why the games they are playing are not next gen and wowing them its because the ps4 and xbone arnt really next gen gaming machines.so you may aswell get used to it because were only a year in and these systems are already struggling for 1080p 60fps..i just hope 1 day they make a console that you can upgrade gfx cards to what you desire.

[thexmanone]

Steam Box is comming. Its going to be nice

[listenkids]

Clearly someone trying to troll the community.

[hkgamer]

cant we all just say that the ps4 cannot handle unity at 1080p wihout more time worked on this, them understanding the engine more aswell as the consoles architecture.

there isnt a magical button which devs can press to maximise the efficiency of console architecture. also note that this is a multiplat game. it looks decent enough.

[madjedi]

The biggest red flag was the parity talk despite one system having a substantial difference in gpu power. (very laymans terms)

If this was fallout 4 and it looked ridiculously gorgeous the not hitting 1080p wouldn't be a big deal to me.

But from what i have seen of it, it's not really that impressive looking vs black flag to me at least.

I am not expecting 1080p set in stone for every ps4 game, but i don't expect it's hitting the limit this early.

Every pr release since the parity statement has sounded like back peddelling or damage control, so that makes me even more skeptical.

[mmj]

"Yes, we have a deal with Microsoft"

Say no more...

The simple fact is still that PS4 has such an advantage in terms of GPU power that ANY game which can run at 900P on Xbone can run at 1080P on PS4. CPU bottlenecks don't affect the ability to increase resolution.

[Mister_G]

Should use GPU Compute then....

http://n4g.com/news/1604952...

[madmonkey01]

wasn't the last assassins creed game in 1080p on ps4?

[urwifeminder]

Must be a lot more things going on in this game under the hood maybe.

[Kumomeme]

if ps4 could'n capable of 1080p,
then xbox1 also should'n be capable of 900p

:p

[BABY-JEDI]

An anonymous source @ Ubisoft told be that this guy is an idiot!
Please note my story is as factual as this article.

[evilhasitsway]

doesn't matter cause if ps4 cant neither can xbox....that's why pc is the place to be.

[evilhasitsway]

note on top of that I could really careless if a games is 1080p as long as it runs good and has good gameplay/story. hell look at destiny 1080 but the most broken down peace of shit game I have played in years.

[Artemidorus]

Dev explains 1080p cannot be done on Xbox everyone agrees Xbox is rubbish,

Dev explains 1080p cannot be done on Playstation everyone makes lame excuses.

You Sony fans have been the worst type of 'gamers' since 2006, seriously.

[InTheZoneAC]

so you're saying calling out a dev/publisher that intentionally hinders a game is worse than supporting a company(M$) despite them continuously slapping their customers in the face each gen with the lack of support in the final years of that console?

And paying for a service all those years when it was free on the better system?

Or supporting a console with lesser games is better than one that's provided you with great exclusives for almost 2 decades?

you have no argument

[Saithraphim]

Game looks amazing, no doubt it will be fun. I don't believe that the game should be the same on both systems, whether its resolution, special effects or frame-rate only bc we know that one system has more power. The community did a great job voicing their concerns, and in the end we will all benefit in the long run I'm sure

[rmedtx]

They are full of s**t!

[csreynolds]

That's strange; doesn't Far Cry 4 run at 1080p on PS4? Isn't that one of your games, Ubisoft?

Hmmm...

[Miacosa]

Ugh, another boneheaded comment. Both consoles seem like they can handle 1080p/ 60fps if the Dev puts in the work to get it to work. The Assassins Creed Unity team either could not figure it out or the extra work was not cost effective given the yearly turnaround. I guess the countdown to PR damage control just got restarted. It's like they want to get customers angry and not buy the title.

[TURKEYonWH3AT]

Bullshit. Specs were lowered to match Xbox they said it before

[Tzuno]

lol it has begun, wait for 2015 to see that lame AMD 8 core cpu that is inside consoles getting rekt, prepare for 900p and 30 fps by a lot.

[cruzngta]

As a gamer who owns both machines I can honestly say that this game could and should have been 1080/30 PS4 and 900/30 XB1. Maybe 1080 on XB1 if MS was able to help with the dev like for other games. PS4 is MORE than capable of getting 1080p for this game.

[mokkeyrg2]

hmm i wonder....

[D3athc3ll]

so this gona look better than Uncharted 4? Guess not even close. So dont tell me ps4 cant do 1080p. Ur just lazy or dumb as a developer!

[Smootherkuzz]

Video game consoles are still not equal to PC gaming. Games are pushing consoles to the limit. We want 1080p/60fps in video games because our TV's can do it right? Well, the consoles can't keep up that yet when console games are demanding more then consoles can give. The thing that's holding consoles back is cost. There once was a console back the day that was powerful for its time and sold for $1000 bucks and failed do to price. So cost is still holding console game power back while games are demanding more. Also now consoles are multi media devices so that means even more power is needed to match what video games need to be stable at high rez and frame rate.

[InTheZoneAC]

and at the end of the day as long as the game is solid that's all that matters.

and even at the end of the day you still don't have what playstation has to offer, never have, never will.

[classic19]

lies. if ps4 can't do 1080p then x1 can't do 900p...

[RosweeSon]

What's that smell?!.... BULL!

[InTheZoneAC]

I was never big on resolution and graphics, as long as the game was solid and fun.

What my problem is with these devs/publishers is when they go out of their way to hinder a game, whether it's missing content or holding the graphics back. That is when I sometimes choose not to support them and don't buy their game new or at full price.

So what if I miss out on a launch window for whatever title it may be, I'll get around to it eventually, but I won't support them as much or at all compared to the next guy.

[dmonee]

Oh no. I knew it. The PS4 is inferior to every gaming system ever created. I should have never gotten rid of my Atari. At least that machine could handle 0001p. If it cant handle 1080p we should all boycott next gen platforms until they recall them and add better hardware to them. Im not satisfied until games can run in 7k and look REAL LIFE! Sony and MS should be held accountable for not delivering machines that can recreate Real Life in 4k. What a BS article. How about making Assy creed unity good and not the same old crap game youve been rolling out for the last 3 years. I dont care if it runs in 720p. Just improve the annual flaws that keep getting rolled out.

[nerdman67]

Say what you will about this, I know for a fact people underestimate the power needed to run open world games well and they overestimate the PS4s power

[Sheabon]

Assassins Creed Unity developers really need to stop talking if they want to sell copies of this game.

Bashing one system or the other makes the people who bought that system think that the developers is putting their intelligence down which makes them not want to support them.

Especially when they bash the system with most sold units.

[cell989]

aha but somehow the x1 was able to handle 900p? all thanks to that ridiculous marketing deal ubi did with Microsoft

[fitfox]

oh boy...