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PS4 price drop, The Last Guardian, release dates, what to realistically expect from Gamescom 2014

GotGame writes: Gamescom 2014 is coming. Sony will be there and is expected to drop some big announcements. What do you think they will be?

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Fishy Fingers3557d ago

What to really expect is neither of those from the headline.

Abash3557d ago

The PS4 is in no need of a pricedrop, we can all rule that out.

What I realistically expect is Media Molecule's and Quantic Dream's PS4 games to be announced. Less likely is Guerrilla Game's PS4 game but Im hoping for that too

I am eager to see Until Dawn running on PS4 though

GribbleGrunger3557d ago (Edited 3557d ago )

Agreed. Sony have just announced that they've managed to reduce manufacturing costs for the PS4 and suddenly people are jumping to conclusions prematurely.

What Sony were doing when they released that information is sending a message to Microsoft: 'We are in a position to cut the price of the PS4 to match any price cut you make.' It is designed to give Microsoft a difficult decision in light of pressure put upon them by their shareholders.

Sony will keep the pricing as it is and harness the selling power of bundles and the value proposition of PS+ (as they have so far) but now with the added value of PSNow.

IF Microsoft DO drop the pricing and it creates a spike that leads to a sustained higher monthly sales average (in the US), and if that new sales average threatens Sony's dominance, THEN and only then will Sony match Microsoft's new pricing. Even then they will wait a while to see if that new higher average is sustained for any meaningful length.

The one thing Sony try to do as much as possible is to avoid a knee jerk reaction to their competition. They hold fast and stick with their long term strategy until it's completely necessary to alter that strategy to compensate for any loss of interest.

SoapShoes3557d ago

But we found out that Guerrilla's new game was in consideration for E3 depending on if they felt they needed it. I'd say it's likely to be shown.

As far as a price drop? Probably only for PS3/Vita.

pedrof933557d ago

I only want The Last Guardian ! Only !

kreate3557d ago

Microsoft could cut the price of the x1 further no?

UltimateMaster3557d ago

Canada is getting a value upgrade by having The Last of Us PS4 bundled for the same price of a PS4 without any game.

GribbleGrunger3557d ago (Edited 3557d ago )

@kreate: No, MS couldn't just drop the price further. Their shareholders have already been putting pressure on them to drop the XB brand altogether, how are they going to feel about MS losing even MORE money per console?

@SoapShoes: Yes, it's more likely that the PS3/Vita could get a price drop early-ish (perhaps Christmas).

morganfell3557d ago (Edited 3557d ago )

@pedrof93

Probably will not happen. Why? It's a Japanese game at the core. I do believe we will see a new TLG reveal this year with a PS3 AND a PS4 version but I think that reveal will be at TGS rather than Gamescom.

@kreate

No? No.

Giul_Xainx3556d ago

I really don't see a price drop happening until the xbox drops down to 325.

The word of mouth that has been spreading is the ps plus service. Most people do not know what it does for ps vita ps3 or ps4. However it is gaining ground. More people have been asking about the ps plus service at game stores.

The xbox one needs more than a new slogan if they want to remain competitive.

UltraNova3556d ago

A Morpheus update on its development, some planned games and movie support for it and a release window will do just fine for me.

The rest is just icing on the cake...(IMO)

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Ezz20133557d ago

yeah i agree
what would be the reason to lower the price for ps4 when it selling like hot cakes

Summons753557d ago

Why not a price drop? If they want to stay ahead of MS then they NEED to drop the price even if it is by $50. The Last Guardian is always expected even though something that nobody knows about happened in that office which truly set the game to development hell

SteamPowered3557d ago

Realistically, PS4 can maintain a healthy lead simply with the momentum they have now. I would of course welcome a price drop, but to say they NEED it would be premature.
Until X1 goes $350 or less, PS4 will lead the pack.

GribbleGrunger3557d ago

They sell what they manufacture. There is little point in dropping the price and creating a shortage. Think about it.

Outside_ofthe_Box3557d ago

Less than a year on the market and you want a price drop??? Price drops within a year of release is not common at all especially if your console is selling well currently.

DigitalRaptor3556d ago (Edited 3556d ago )

Don't be silly.

PS3 was much more expensive than the cheapest 360 (Arcade SKU), for almost an entire generation, and outsold it practically every year.

They are staying ahead of Microsoft regardless of any price cut. Factor in the disadvantages PS3 had against it, and all the advantages the 360 had going for it that Microsoft has now all lost to PS4, and you can see why it's silly to suggest that MS can ever catch up, let alone surpass.

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Spenok3557d ago

I'm glad you read the article.... oh wait, you obviously didn't...

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luis_spartano3557d ago

All I want is:

* Syphon Filter PS4 announcement
* Uncharted 4 gameplay
* More Vita love(enough of indie crap)

Am I asking too much Sony?!

DigitalRaptor3556d ago (Edited 3556d ago )

My predictions for Gamescom:

- RiME (stage demo)
- Everybody's Gone to the Rapture (stage demo)
- Shadow of the Beast (stage demo)
- Press blowout for Bloodborne, including direct feed gameplay and playable demo on the floor.
- Debut teaser trailer for Without Memory (PS4 exclusive).
- New trailer for Ratchet & Clank Redux with release date.

Announcements/teaser trailers for (expecting at least 3 of these):
- Sony Bend's new horror IP;
- Media Molecule's new PlayStation Move/Morpheus IP;
- Guerrilla's new open-world fantasy IP;
- Until Dawn for PS4/Morpheus with stage demo
- Journey and The Unfinished Swan for PS4 and Vita, supporting cross-buy.

nope1113557d ago

A price drop won't happen for awhile.

Spenok3556d ago

Read the article... he states clearly to NOT expect one...

frostypants3556d ago

Right...but the N4G headline explicitly implies that there may be one. Submitter is a dbag.

nucky643557d ago (Edited 3557d ago )

where to begin? I'd love to see doom running on ps4.
I'd love to see more of :
no mans sky
everybodys gone to the rapture'
the witness
rime
uc4
DYING to see bloodborne/the order gameplay
more dying light gameplay
until dawn
more "lords of the fallen" gameplay
is the zombie dlc for gtav real?

and my big longshot hope is to just hear something....anything about RDR2.

btw - I've given up on "agent". what a disappointment. also thinking last guardian is dead too - even at best I don't think it'll be as great as I once thought it was going to be....very sad.

LAWSON723557d ago (Edited 3557d ago )

PS4 price drop will not happen. Sony would be a fool to lower the price on a system that is not cheap to make and is still in high demand. They will lose potential earnings that are pretty much guaranteed. IMO no system should be seeing a price drop until next summer at the least, they should IMO just add more value to the price like a couple of free games or other incentives which is something Nintendo has been doing very well.

Anyways hopefully for Ps4 there is a demonstration of Bloodborne and some thing on the last guardian. As for Uncharted I loved the games but I don't really need to see footage to know I want it.

As for Xbone I want to see is some screenshots of Halo 3 because I am curious to see how it looks at a higher res, see how forge is in Halo 2, and see the new ranking system. Also I want to see Scalebound and Quantum Break demos.

As for Nintendo if they are at Gamescom I would like to see more mega pokemon, Zelda, Star Fox and X.

I would also like to see some new reveals and EA show footage of Mirrors Edge, ME, and Battlefront

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 5h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken16h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 2h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 1h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 2h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola22h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

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jznrpg1d 17h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 12h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies22d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91321d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit21d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit21d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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