Edge preview: Killzone 2

Guerrilla says that Killzone 2 is living up to impossibly high expectations, but it's hard not to feel that the game is short on ideas that it can call its own.

[arakouftaian]

i never play k:l but someday i will :D

[xg-ei8ht]

You'll never play it again, i've said that so many times about old games. One day maybe:)

Yeah this will be awesome.

Day one Purchase/.

[clintos59]

Any game that is ps3 exclusive can be guaranteed to be low scored from edge and eurogamer. So im not even going to waste my time reading the preview.
These guys and eurogamer said a good preview about MGS4 and then gave the game an 8, with lousy facts to lower the score and on top of that they gave halo 3 a 10. Sorry but the credability from this site and eurogamer and gamespot are all lousy and are biased against ps3 games. Even if u gave uncharted a good score, MGS4 is a way better game then uncharted period. Thats all I gotta say now go preview somewhere else because anything good coming from these sites is all halo fanatics.

[uehc]

I agree, you can sense their bitterness in this article. I've never seen a preview about a game written so coldly in this manner before. They're being a bit unfair.

[Fishy Fingers]

Edge, are harsh and always objective, but I don't believe they have any bias toward any of the platforms. If they have a different opinion to you that doesnt matter, as it is only opinion, nothing more.

[1stKnighT]

And the excuses continues...

[Euphrate]

Gave :

Bioshock ( Game of the Year ) 8/10
Gears of War ( Game of the year nominee 8/10 )
Metal Gear Solid 4 ( Definitely Game of This year ) 8/10
HALO 3 10/10

HALO

3

Is 8/10 - their 10/10?

So, if Killzone gets a 8/10 ( which it will ) it's actually a compliment?

HALO 3...

[Veryangryxbot]

Agreed. I, too, find it pretty unfair how they labelled KZ2 as a “stealer of ideas”. I wonder, why do these fools expect Guerilla to reinvent the wheel? Halo didn’t. And yet it got a 10 from them? But KZ is bashed to insane heights?
The way I see it, KZ2 is borrowing concepts but borrowing the BEST and established concepts. That’s a GOOD THING. Not a BAD thing.
And from my objective point of view I actually see KZ2 do something no other game has before. Its packaging the best things of all games into one package. Something no other game, barred MGS4, has done before.
When is the last time, you have seen the graphics of uncharted upped a notch, the details of MGS4, the lighting of GTA4, the incredible textures, the size of the game, the war torn atmosphere, the animations of Uncharted, the incredible models, the destructible environments etc all in one package?
Oh ya, only on PS3.
Halo 3 showed CGI footage but somehow noone expected that game to look like that and no points or reviews bashed Halo for it. KZ2 showed CGI footage over 3 years ago and to this very day, everyone of the press expects KZ2 to look just like that or else…
And now that KZ2 DOES look like CGI quality, they just find other things to bash the game.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to see how this game is unfairly treated. But these people also gave MGS4 an 8 and that actually is enough said: they have no credibility whatsoever.

[yanikins111]

<stomp>

[LaChance]

Who cant be believe that the sequel to the mediocre Killzone on PS2 isnt the best game in the universe.

EDGE gave a 8/10 to Bioshock (360 exclusive at that time) and 8/10 to Geow (360 exclusive).

I perossonally didnt see ONE SINGLE 360 fanboy complain about how EDGE are biaised.

Didnt see a single conspiracy theory come out of a 360 fanboys mouth.

You guys are starting to look more and more like a huge JOKE.

EDGE are harsh , thats all.I dont think alot of gamers pay attention to their reviews simply because they dont seem to have the same demands as normal gamers (HOW ON PLANET EARTH CAN YOU GIVE BIOSHOCK an 8/10 ?)

Stop whining.

edit : @clintos below : I hope you saw that I said we shouldnt really take EDGE into account because they simply dont review games like others.They seem incosistant to me.

Yuore talking about MGS4 and KZ2 (innovation bla bla bla) but I can say exactly the same thing for a 360 exclsives like Geow or Bioshock.
Halo 3 is a special case just like GTA4.The hype around those games are are INSANE hence the overrated reviews.But MGS4 or Geow etc are not as important as Halo or GTA (Im talking about hype , the money involved etc).

EDGE arnt biaised : if you take away Halo 3 can you please give me an example of EDGE being biaised ? I bet you cant cuz they give 8/10 even to 360 AAA exclusives.

If they give Res 2 a 9/10 what are you going to say ?

They gave Uncharted, R and Clank and UT3 very good scores.I guess they turned into lousy reviewers when they got MGS4 , right ?

[clintos59]

Maybe if u opened your eyes u would understand that when u see 28 reviews out of 30 giving MGS4 AAA and AAAA scores, its not hard to see which game sites u can believe. U can sit here and say dont whine about a game but hey this is one of the greatest franchise games in gaming history and one of my favorite series. For these guys to say, "Where is the Innovation for Killzone 2" just shows u how hypocrite they can be with that statement just for the fact of my example of how they reviewed Halo 3. If u can prove me wrong that Halo 3 was innovative and deserved a 10, then ill shut up, but since I know u cant, it doesnt take a blind person to see that edge, eurogamer, and gamespot are lousy reviewers.

[Superfragilistic]

An opinion is only worth as much as the value you place on it.

EDGE are notoriously harsh and have a tendency to reward innovation over story or pretty graphics. But then only people who read their critiques would understand and value that, as opposed to fanboys who just look at the scores or choice quotes. :)

[crck]

They gave God of War 2 a 7. They obviously don't share my viewpoint on games so why should I give a crap about what they think.

[CrazzyMan]

Here.

[TruthBTold]

there will be little to nothing where reviewers can hype the game based on what the developers say. If anything whatever good thing is said will mostlikely seem fair cause they wont be able to depend on others peoples opinion to make their own. Let the gamers decide how good the game is and that will be the perfect hype for the game. I am excited about this game but dont want people to overhype it cause it ruins the experience when reading about it. Keep it realistic.

[jtucker78]

I'm slightly worried about the "reviving your team" mechanic.
This dynamic has ruined many a great game and not so great (Clive Barker's Jericho anyone?)

I think the game is shaping up well, but I don't want to spend too much time running back and forth trying to revive my teammates.
That would be a major ball4che.

[Mr_President_]

Same. It all depends on how much time they put into developing the team AI. As long as any your squadmates don't decide to play hero and take out a whole group solo, it should be fine.

[Fishy Fingers]

Squad actions are dependent on your actions, if you help out a certain member of your team they in return will make a "real" effort to help you when your next in a spot of trouble.
The less assistance you give to them, expect that back.

Usually the use of a squad such as in KZ2 is to easily allow co-op play, it's much easier from the developer point of view to "simply" allow you to control one of the NPC squad mates while in co-op.

[NiraTum]

no offense but gray pallete???

i guess to make edge and eurogamer and probably 1up happy we need to put a rainbow war to make they happy...

but is edge, so what else can be expected...

sorry for my english is a little rusty...

[Veryangryxbot]

Changing the color models is a matter of pressing the left pad of their mouse.

The colors of a game, is a choice of the developers. The artistic design was a choice they made. It has nothing to do with being incapable of portraying more colors. It has to do with style and artistic design. This game is trying to portray a grim, war torn feeling. You dont use pink for that.

[MisfitSmurf]

complaining about how killzone is gray is like complaining how gears is brown :/ both games still look good either way

[Kleptic]

totally agree with both of you...I know PS3 fans attatcked Gears for being relatively grim color wise, but I found it awesome...their is something ridiculous about having lots of grey muted colors and then splattering gorgeously rendered blood all over it...while Gears didn't have affective blood decaling (the awesome splatter didn't stick to walls...it only had a really lame looking puddle form)...Killzone 2 takes that to a new level (blood flowing down hills and pooling in cracks in the ground, and splatter realistically staining surfaces) all look as awesome as ever...

I know I sound homicidal most likely...but its a shooter...I don't want pink and purple everywhere...I don't want giggling little idiot purple aliens coming up to me and then running away aimlessly...whining about Killzone 2 having too many buildings made out of concrete, or sheet metal aircraft hangars is blatantly ignorant...you wanna see color in Killzone 2?...stare at the sky, it looks like a ridiculously awesome painting...

[End Of war 2]

crap game not interested.

[Mr_President_]

This might be the way the biased media outlets trys to shoot down another PS3 game. Its not such a bad thing if a developer uses ideas from other games or movies. Gears of War borrowed so many ideas from other sources but it was still a f***ing kickass game. It all depends on how the developers implement everything.

[yanikins111]

yeah i remember this game called killswitch....

[yanikins111]

Feel free to make up your own minds but this article is rubbish imo.

Personally ive never seen a cover system like this implemented in a fps, maybe you could point me to where it was done before.

[Kleptic]

it hasn't...but common practice in the joke of the industry (read: game journalism) is to blatantly ignore facts such as this as to not deteriorate your pre-formed opinion about a certain game...

[LTC]

Well what do u expect they gave 10/10 to halo 3 which was full of original ideas.
//sarcasm

Edge are one of the worst out there I stopped reading there reviews years ago. They seem to underate great games and overate average ones ie GTA4.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

It blames the game for being a SHOOTER, and FOR ADOPTING HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL METHODS and DYNAMICS found in COD, which is the best shooter so far....FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, fire those F*CKING IDIOTS. let them be homeless for a while,seriously. the game takes no risks????

what exactly where you expecting from a SHOOTER? How many different things you can do in a SHOOTER, BESIDES SHOOTING? CROUCHING? LEANING? and MORE SHOOTING????? you know what? f*ck it.

they're totally right... MGS4 got an 8 for having everything, and taking big risks, and pulling them off extremely well.... and killzone, will get an 8 for basically, being just like the current best shooter COD4, with huge leaps in graphics, and interaction. and you know what's really wrong with both of those games? you guessed it... they're PS3 EXCLUSIVE.

just imagine the PRAISES a game like MGS4 would get it was also coming on the 360..... it would be something like this: " JUMP IN, in what critics everywhere calls, THE GAME OF A LIFETIME, UNSURPASSED QUALITY, EDGE MAG calls it:"The Million Dollar Game". and at the end of the Ad, it would say, "exclusive content only on XBOXLIVE" JUMP IN...........

[Euphrate]

So true.

[Nervz]

What game doesn't borrow ideas from other related genres?

As long as the games fun, works and plays well, that's what counts. Its hard to further progress a FPS, considering the amount already on the market that have pushed it. there's ONLY so much that can be done to a genre.

What about GG, First person view cover system? I haven't see any game use that before, and apparently works very well.

GG aren't going to force an element to the game, just to be original if it won't work.

If GG even did so, edge would probably be like "yeah its all new and stuff, but just doesn't work or feel right for a FPS"

these guys always complain about something...f*ck sake.

What about the Sixaxis and its use to rotate valves, etc?

Not only does the game use some popular ideas, but adds it own...like every game should.

[tweaker]

This man speaks the truth.

[beavis4play]

keep preaching the truth brother!

[Kleptic]

I am still waiting for someone to tell me what risks CoD 4 took...srsly...its easily the best console shooter released at this point...but where did IW take the game to the brink of failure, but had something tweaked just right as to make the game nearly perfect?...

answer:...they didn't...it takes old ideas and blended them with a new war theater...single player wise CoD 4 is excellent, but its not even 25% of the game...

How much do we know about KZ2's multiplayer?...exactly...there is absolutely zero need for these 'alarming previews' of Killzone 2...

[DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl]

but they all pretty much seem the same with the only real differences being storyline, graphics,and weapons. All the other nectar and time shift stuff isn't revolutionizing the genre. Maybe someone with more expertise can tell me when and what was the last game that changed the genre or made everyone clone the blueprint like gta did sandbox and metal gear did stealth, or even the first tombraider with adding puzzles to action adventure games.

[Fishy Fingers]

Doom, that really set the tone, gun at the bottom, enemy in front, shoot them. Basically not a lot has changed over the last decade.

Guess Rainbow Six was one of the first to implement a cover system although that was done in 3rd person. But Id hardly call it "revolutionary".

All I want from future FPS games is the feeling of a greater scale, I find the whole "you against 10million bad guys" a little far fetched, I want to feel involved but not integral as such. This could probably be summed up with "better story". Oh and also the evolution of graphics/sound.

[Bathyj]

Edge suck balls. They're not tough, they just dont know how to enjoy a game.

And so what if KZ2 isn't trying to reinvent the wheel, they're just trying to make the best damn wheel they can.

[Euphrate]

They're starting to sound like the new Gamespot.

Oh yes, Halo 3 deserves a 10, but Bioshock game of the year does not.

[yanikins111]

I dont have a degree in stupid so maybe somene else can explain to me what the following means?

"Shooting itself, while powerful to the ears, doesn’t have quite the precision and feedback of Halo 3, nor the swift decisiveness of Call Of Duty"

WTF? It's a trademark of bad writing to use adjectives that dont suit the context in which they are written. Precision of an assult rifle on full auto? Feedback? What the 360 has recoil in the controller now? decisivness? Im pretty sure if the gimp could aim the things would die pretty quick.

EDIT:
FEEDBACK??? FEEDBACK?????? I have NEVER seen such accurate visual feedback of successful hits on an enemy in a computer game. What other feedback is there? Killzone2 is probably the first game in which you can tell exactly where youve hit the enemy. Have they even seen the game in action? WTF MAN???

[Euphrate]

I hope they read this.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

that was another BLATANT BS from them, feedback???? they must have been talking about that CHECK microsoft wrote them for that 10 on HALO3. then in that case, they're totally right, it just DOESN'T have that "feedback" aka "foodstamp" aka "check" you usually get with 360 games, and multiplats.

and to the fans of the OTHER console, it's a joke, a funny one. i hope that your sense of humor will let you appreciate that.

and to Yanikins, that was funny, good pick up on that one.....

[LastDance]

....Precision?...E-swat had really good precision...i swear everytime you shoot..the bullet would go STRAIGHT across the screen in a very straight line without fail. ...good precision that game had.

[yanikins111]

@lastdance

The precision bit is what got me. Seeing as every shooter worth its salt has incorporated a lack of precision ever since the original Rainbow 6. Every time you have held an automatic weapon on full auto in a shooter, only to watch the crosshair get bigger and your accuracy diminish, you have been experiancing a deliberate lack of precision. Its used to balance weapons, and to increase realism. I cant remember halo. Maybe it didnt have this feature, but soldiers also dont run around in bright green battle suits and regain health if they stay behind cover for 5 seconds.

Personally i like the chaotic feel the lack of precision gives to war games. I read somewhere the average rounds fired/enemies killed ratio for infantry is about 50-1 (dont know the exact numbers so dont hold me to that). And its because not every round fired on a battlefield hits its target. If im playing a war game, and its aiming for realism, i dont want it to be easy to hit my enemy.

Ahh E-Swat.... Sega at its best. I loved that game. I truly truly did.

[beavis4play]

what the f#ck are they talking about???

[clintos59]

Is just the fact that everytime u see a ps3 exclusive, these guys always bring up BS saying, "What is there new that these games brought". And when a game like Halo 3 comes along, anyone who owns halo 3 will tell u, there is nothing original in halo 3 and the story is mediocre and still to this day none of the halo games that have come out arent even on the level of the first halo game. The first one was awesome and had a great story, since then halo 2 and 3 has been a big dissappointment and only has been fun with its online multiplayer but hasnt delivered anything close to the first. And yet these game sites such as edge, eurogamer and gamespot praise it like its the most awesome thing on the planet. Sorry to say this but Gears, Bioshock, and MGS4, destroy halo 3, and that is just the honest truth. I am glad to see these 3 game sites going down the drain, because they are just so full of sh!t when it comes to reviews of great games.

[Superfragilistic]

First off Halo 3's exceptional scores had little to do with its story or graphics.

Sure the single player really wasn't all that special until you turned the difficulty up and the AI was noticeably tougher. And the story was popcorn movie cliche. As a single player campaign Halo CE leaves the rest for dead, Halo 2 was convoluted and cheap, Halo 3 was satisfying but not inspiring.

But I think all that misses why Halo 3 was so highly rated for its time. Firstly, it preceded all the current titles such as MGS4, Bioshock and COD4 and was released back in September 07. This gave it a first mover advantage and a lot has changed since then. Secondly, the games level of polish and production values were of a consistently high quality throughout that had rarely been seen before. Thirdly, the multiplayer and user generated content were not only groundbreaking but are flawlessly integrated.

Halo 3 online integration is still ahead of its time. The matchmaking, game type diversity, custom games, 4player co-op campaign, screenshots, film capture, and in particular Forge all far exceeded any game of its time and in many ways still do almost nine months on.

Halo 3 was an early title for this generation which gave it an inherent advantage with reviewers, it's only competition in relative genres of note were Resistance, COD2 and Gears of War. Killzone 2, and Gears 2, on the other hand face very similar problems in that they may well have got universal praise had they been released before Halo 3 and COD4 but the reality is they will have to compete with not only Halo 3 and COD4 but other titles such as Bioshock, GTAIV and MGS4 that have pushed gaming boundaries and expectations before them, along with other significant upcoming shooters such as Resistance 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company.

The reality is that Killzone 2 not only has such high expectations placed upon it, but it lives in a gaming world that exists after the many titles I've mentioned above. In such an environment Killzone 2 will have to be something truly special to stand out from the pack and I think all EDGE is saying is that at the moment whilst it sure is pretty, Killzone 2 is part of that pack rather than leading it.

[VirusE]

Super its nice to see someone in this thread has a brain.

[THAMMER1]

LOL I like the reactions of the fans in this article. Time for the defence force to form Sony TRon Defenders of Playstation and masters of zero credibility. !!!Unite!!!

[Deadpool101]

How can people who have not played the game assume that they have to right to rip into the opinion of those that have? Do you people remember the first KillZone? Looked absolutely amazing in previews and videos, when it came out it was just another fps, didn’t do anything especially different or exciting. All this preview shows is that the sequel seems to be heading the same way, a good shooter but not as revolutionary as the developers and sony kept saying it would be. Why is that so hard to believe when this is what happened before.
Why do you guys think that any negative press must be because of a bias publication/web site or because Bill Gates went out and bribed the entire world. Face it, sometimes hyped games just aren’t that great, the recent arrivals of Haze and Ninja Gaiden 2 are testament to that fact. When you have played it yourself then you can scream how wrong they were but until then, their opinion is a hell of a lot more valid than yours. Grow up.

Oh and a message to Yanikins111
“Killzone2 is probably the first game in which you can tell exactly where youve hit the enemy”. No its not, you’ve been able to do that for a while. Most prominantly back in the first Soldier of Fortune game, not only could you see exactly where you hit them but the damaged changed depending on your weapon. It was a pretty cool feature in an otherwise average game.

[yanikins111]

Wow taken out of context much?

"I have NEVER seen such accurate visual feedback of successful hits on an enemy in a computer game. What other feedback is there? Killzone2 is probably the first game in which you can tell exactly where youve hit the enemy. Have they even seen the game in action? WTF MAN??? "

Removing someones head looks cool when your 13, but comparing those basic animations to KZ2 is ridiculous. Yes most games made in the last 15 years have hit animations, but nothing like KZ2. I encourage people to go and watch the capturs of ingame play and then to find video of anything like it. The footage speaks for itself. You can sit here and say its been done before, but there simply hasnt been more accurate visual feedback of enemy hits on a humanoid enemy in any other game on a console to date.

[beavis4play]

NG and Haze are out and were overhyped. why don't you wait till KZ2 is out to make this determination. point about the article is that they seem biased against the game.(just like eurogamer seemed biased against MGS series when reiviewing MGS4) the rest of what you said is not based on fact; only opinion. and since other sites loved the demo, we'll just have to wait and see.

[yanikins111]

ok. Ive played haze (got it today) and it is definately a 7. Once thing i hear mentioned once was the number of real time objects in the game world that can be moved. Once scene stood out, on a beach under a hotel, the mantel troops were taking cover in wooden huts. You shoot at them and each individual board breaks off. Struck me as kinda cool. Cover made from propped up tin sheets and such also fell apart when fired on. And the story is pretty good. That "laughable moment" that alot of the reviews mentioned, actually made me feel a little ill. Shipping containers full of dead bodies, torture, abuse of prisoners of war, and having to kill people who were ten minutes ago your teamates, whilst they look like clammy half dead junkies are not laughable moments. I think im near the end, and there have actually been quite a few stand out moments. The only thing letting the game down are the graphics, and even they are not that bd.

[dale1]

hard to give a reveiw on one level unless your mind set already or biased,its a bit like watching 5 mins of a film and saying it doesn,t bring anythink new,at least wait for the final build before giving comments

[Vandan]

lol what a bias article i meanthis idiot did not even try to seem objective

LOL THERE IS A BLIND FIRE OPTION U IDIOT IF YOU PLAYED THE GAME PROPERLY UD KNOW

GRAPHICALLY THIS IS THE BEST SEENEVER ON A CONSOLE WHICH HE FAILS TO MENTION

NO INNOVATION>??? 2 WORDS LEAN AND PEAK IN FPVIEW EVER SEEN THAT BEFORE AND THIS IS JUST FREAKIN HALF A LEVEL :P

DAMN MAN I ALREADY KNOW THESE BIAS IDIOTS ARE GONNA SCORE THIS GAME LOW

ALL I CAN SAY IS "" FOX NEWS " WE R FAIR AND BALANCED :P

RIF

[4cough]

This Game has a $h!t load of fail written all over it.

[PSMonster21]

Your post has FAIL all over it. Time to leave troll.

[Meresin]

What's new and special about this game? The graphical beauty of it, that's what. CoD4 is a nice enough game, but it has aliasing problems. They're not severe, but they're definitely there. Oddly enough, those same aliasing problems are absent from Killzone 2, and even the original Resistance.

Stop previewing games based on how they look on an SDTV, and you'll realize why Killzone 2 is something special. The game is just plain beautiful. I've rewatched the Game Day videos over and over just to admire the lighting effects for crying out loud...:P

[VirusE]

Yeah the graphics are special.... to anyone who hasn't played crysis. I played crysis so what does this game have to offer me?

[SL1M DADDY]

With that mentality you could basically say "what does any game have for me - I've played Crysis"... Sorry, but your mentality sucks and since each game brings a new story, that for one should be top of the list and game play varies from title to title and then graphics... Sure Crysis might be top dog but then you're just being silly and comparing a PC game to the console...

[meepmoopmeep]

VirusE "Yeah the graphics are special.... to anyone who hasn't played crysis. I played crysis so what does this game have to offer me?"

you might as well stop console gaming then making that retarded comment.
actually you might as well stop gaming entirely if you have that mentality. what game these days is totally revolutionary? please enlighten me.

[twoface]

The game sounds interesting, the preview tries too hard to sound objective

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Edge??? They can F**K-OFF!!! ;-D

[IQUITN4G]

Edge are most certainly not biased towards a format.One month has it's readers wondering if they're favoring one over another and then the next month the table turns so that you start to question this preference entirely - iv'e read just about 99% of Edge and more than the one time iv'e thought they actually hated MS, so quit calling this nonsense that they're corrupt

[ar]

So what if it's not revolutionary? A game doesn't have to be doing everything in a new way. As long as it does what it does good. That's the only thing that matters.

And I also fail to see what COD4 does that no other game has done before.

[beavis4play]

i'm in minority, but COD4 was fun, but only stood out in multi-player. and that was offset by the painfully linear and short single-player campaign.

[Skynetone]

at least its going to be better then haze

i just dont like the fact the enemy look the same as you, or very similar

[beavis4play]

why would devs show any of the new stuff so early? i can't wait to get my hands on this game.

i'm not sure i understand the comment about enemies looking the same....?

[Deadpool101]

You guys seem to be failing to realise this is just a preview. Its not a review. I wouldnt want to be on this board if someone dares to review this game and rate it 8 out of 10 (which has recently been demoted to a "bad score" but some crazies online, though lord knows why).
Why are you guys blowing this out of proportion, why has every game got to get flawless praise (even though its not finished yet and you havent played it). If it doesnt then it must mean each reviewer/previewer/web site/magazine/priest/martian and farmyard animal must be bias against sony and be on the microsoft payroll.
He wasnt that impressed with it, fair enough. He is entitled to his opinion and at least his is based on actual playtime with the game, what do all the fanboys have to back up their claims that this game is any better that the preview suggest?...Nothing at all, but hey fanboyism doesnt really work too well if you let a silly thing like logic or common sense get involved.

[VirusE]

Deadpool stop trying be objective and rational. Everyone knows that killzone fans suffer from cognitive dissonance like few other fanboy clicks do. They don’t care that the first one sucked, they don't care that guerilla has never made a good game and the surely don't care that edge isn't the first negative preview. Their lord and master Sony told them it was good so it must be just like lair and haze. Anyone who says otherwise is on the MS payroll and is involved in the largest conspiracy since the Kennedy assassination. Actually I think MS killed Kennedy. If they can bribe 90% of the reviewing community to give halo 3 good reviews (odd how many people are online right at this moment playing halo 3), then bribe 8 million people to buy it, then bribe the entire gaming media to pan most ps3 exclusives and then brain wash everyone who owns both systems into believing that the 360 versions are better then I don’t find it hard to believe that MS had a time travel machine built so they could travel back in time to kill Kennedy before he could put a special bill in place that would lead to global domination by Sony in the future. It is just about as logical after all. I am really thinking about selling my ps3 just so I don’t have to be associated with the idiocy and conspiracy theory BS that comes with own one. Bad games get bad reveiws if you guys owned both systems you would get that.

[yanikins111]

FALE

The first one was good. Thats why alot of people are looking forward to this.

[kanedaakira]

FROM THE ARTICLE:
Indeed, Killzone 2’s feature list is a checklist of modern shooter stalwarts. The cover system is called ‘lean and peek’, a capability apparently taken from Killzone: Liberation, Guerrilla’s isometric tactical action title in the series for PSP. L1 snaps the player to cover, with the chance to line up shots by peeking before popping up to take them. Strangely, there’s no blindfire option.

WATCH:
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Makes you think these guys don't have the slightest idea what they are talking about - you can blindfire...

[beavis4play]

i don't like it and won't use it unless game dicatates i have to.

[Deadpool101]

Quick question and this isnt to annoy anyone i swear its a genuine question. Havent other FPS had "lean" capabilties before this one? I'd swear this isnt a new move to the world of FPS. I thought the Rainbow 6 games have let you do that already. I could be mistaken, but im sure i have played a fps that let you "lean and peek" before.

I have obviously missed something with this game, so i hope you can help me out without flaming me too much. But, and be honest please, other than the admittedly impressive graphics, what has been shown of this game that makes you people so sure this is going be such an amazing shooter? I dont get why you guys i so defensive (even when you dont need to be) and protective of what so far just looks like a very pretty fps.

[VirusE]

It was in R6 but Killzone fans are not going to let logic get in there way. Killzone was a halo killer (LOL) and killzone 2 has 120fps, 1080p with 4d graphics.... And then the cognitive dissonance sets in.

[juuken]

...Who are these guys again?
I can sense bitterness behind those words. I guess they're starting to realize that the PS3 is getting ready to take over.

[Kleptic]

Its a major publication in the UK...but are notorious for being extremely pro-Nintendo...MGS4 scored an 8/10 recently, identical to both MGS2 and MGS3's reviews from them...

most of their stuff is very well written, its just anything without Zelda or Mario in it better be impossibly awesome to get their attention...

Killzone 2 on the other hand is one of those games that looks to be made specifically for me...I love the color...I love the lighting...I love the look of the enemy, etc...the multiplayer is what really will make or break the game though...Innovation in this genre is thrown around so much; nearly everyone gets confused about it...the game has some new ideas for single player (cod 4 had absolutely zero innovation in terms of single player...yet when comparing it to Killzone 2, most previews simply ommit that for whatever reason)...and could have all kinds of never before used stuff for multiplayer, especially if whats rumored is true...

day 1 for me...the visuals alone are so impressive that it will continue to get a lot of attention, regardless of if these guys complain about what it does thats new...

[zapass]

part of the "we told you Ps3 was the titanic" bandwagon.

I think they're just trying to diffuse that pain that's growing up their ass... kinda like foxnews and the war in iraq.

Others find some creative ways to turn coat like: "Ps3 was total crap last year but has suddenly become the best gaming beast on the planet!"

Not sure which one is the funniest... ;P

[Says you]

That you are considering if Edge and Eurogamer gave your crappy game Gears of sh1t 2 that looks like the original with little to improvements
and gave it a 7 you would be looking for an excuse to see I can find a flaw in your analogy you moronic boner!

your intellect is lower then worm sh1t!.

[jkhan]

Well I think everyone is expecting Killzone 2 to bring something new and revolutionary that will change how FPS games are being played or some crazy feature that will totally change the way you think about FPS.
I am also hoping that they bring something really new to the table. Something that when I play through my jaw drops and only word I can utter is WOW.

[meepmoopmeep]

to say killzone 2 just copies other games and not saying this to other games leaves the author looking unprofessional.

i would like to see him list the games that brought something totally new to its genre without borrowing from another game and "call its own"

what an idiot.

[THE_JUDGE]

based on one level that was shown last year. LAME!!!

[tk]

I like the Original Killzone
I hear many dissing the game, but imo it is better than COD4, Army of Two. More or less on par with R:FOM for me. I replayed most of the games, but the first KillZone is still good - play it on the PS3 (BC rocks - have a Euro 60GB PS3).

KZ2 seems to be shaping up nicely - but to be honest - will have to see it when it is released. There is not enough info to say how good it is. EDGE / Eurogamer will be baised against all PS3 titles as they proved - so the review is worthless.

[wangdiddy82]

until they gave halo 3 a 10..

[Mc187]

They thought they could destroy MGS4 with their biased review and failed. I guess it's just time for them to chug a bottle of Haterade and start trying to trash the next game they are afraid of, sad.

[TheExecutive]

so this game takes everything awesome and fun about all the other fps's and puts it into one game and beautifully renders it and they are mad about that?

Give me a break. The gameplay sounds intense and fun as h*ll. This game is going to be great, no matter what the gaming media says about it.

Give it a rest Edge and just enjoy a game for what it is, not what innovation you think it should have.

[sephy 9 2 5]

innovations then bring up games that actually redefined the FPS genre instead of games that were solid refinements of old ideas.

[rbrtchng]

A game doesn't need to present new things to be great. A game can be great by perfecting old formulas. So far, KZ2 looks awesome, but I can see how it can get boring. What will save this game in single player for me would be if they include bosses or have genius level designs that keeps the players at the edge of their seats.