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How one simple change transformed the tone of The Last of Us's ending

A narrative designer on The Last of Us has discussed how a simple gameplay change transformed the tone of the game's ending.

As part of his talk at Develop conference in Brighton on 'Giving Back Control: The Last of Us and Telling Stories in Gameplay', Peter Field discussed the the game's final hands-on section.

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ArchangelMike3998d ago (Edited 3998d ago )

"...C'mon baby gurl, I gotchya.."

The moment that clip started playing a shiver ran down my spine, and it all came flooding back... ahh the sweet sweet memories.

I just can't wait anymore for the Remaster to drop. I want it now so much!!!

Edit: How can you watch that an Not want a sequel. Maybe not about Joel and Ellie, but what happened to the Cordycepts virus? Who leads the fireflies now? Are they still hunting for Ellie, Where is Ish? So many questions.

MightyNoX3998d ago

That baby girl moment got to me.

I'll take a sequel but I'm not dying for one. I'm completely fine if they never decide to go back to that universe. Id love to see Naughty Dog tackle Sci-fi.

TheWackyMan3998d ago

I started tearing up like a true man at that scene.

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medman3998d ago (Edited 3998d ago )

@MightyNoX
I'm greedy. I want a new ND sci fi, TLOU 2, and the new Uncharted. I want it all, the more the merrier.

Ezz20133998d ago (Edited 3998d ago )

"baby gurl"

the moment he said that to Ellie
was the moment i thought:

******SPOILER******

"Damn, Joel is not seeing Ellie as Ellie anymore
It's Sarah to him now "

some view Joel as the bad guy
but he's not
He did what he could to survive
and he view Ellie as his kid
anyone who have kids would do every thing Joel did or even more
and that's one of the main reasons why i love this game sooo much
It's not about being the hero or the Bad guy
it's about doing the best to protect the ones you love

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Blacklash933998d ago (Edited 3998d ago )

That rebar incident they talk about in the article was easily the weakest scripting in the game.

Where was Ellie when Joel was being assaulted by a lone assailant?
How could Joel possibly hope to survive a rusty rebar penetrating his abdomen, through both the front and back, without immediate medical attention? He would bleed out very quickly. What about Tetanus?
How is he able to fully function after immediately waking up from a weeks-long coma?

It was about as ridiculous as Uncharted 2 was, when Drake is climbing a train, engaging in firefights, and trekking through a cold climate when he has an open gunshot wound in his abdomen that has been open for a considerable period of time.

ravinash3998d ago

***SPOLIERS*** ^^^ for those waiting for the remaster version to play!

You do have to have a little bit of artist licence when telling a story, if anything to bring the focus of the story onto the other character.

if that did happen to someone and they did survive, they would be b***dy lucky, yeah. But the way it's presented still makes it believable.

Blacklash933998d ago (Edited 3998d ago )

I don't think it was believable. Ellie just disappears off-screen for the scene. Physical trauma like that would likely cause unconsciousness immediately. Joel would have bled out within minutes.

And while trying to save Joel, Ellie gets directly hit on the head with a pipe iron. It makes a big thud and she just instantly recovers and shoots him on her back. That would knock her out instantly, no question.

Just poor scripting. Injuries seem to be Naughty Dog's weakness when it comes to crafting believable scenes.

ArchangelMike3998d ago (Edited 3998d ago )

@Blacklash you seem to be new to gaming, I can't remember playing ANY game that did not require a certain level of 'suspension of disbelief', Heck there are very few movies that don't require it either.

You see, people play games (and watch movies) to be entertained, to have fun and to be immersed in a 'fantastic' world. That fact that loopholes can somwtimes be found in games or movies seldom detracts from the fun factor and entertainment value.

You could deconstruct the narrative of practically any game (or movie), but you'd end up a very sombre individual. When it come to games, it's ok to lighten up, and enjoy it for what it is - incredibly fun, immersive entertainment!

Blacklash933998d ago (Edited 3998d ago )

The Last of Us is a fantastic game. I'm not arguing that.

I'm not new to videogames. It's just that for a company that prides itself on its cinematic skill, I don't want to see such major scripting issues. They're such high-quality everywhere else that these oversights stick out all the more to me. That's all.

There's no reason why Ellie just disappeared in that scene. Or why they couldn't have chosen a much more survivable injury scenario. A man surviving an injury like that for hours, without immediate treatment, is beyond suspension of disbelief.

LordMaim3998d ago

Sooo... fungus growing into your brain causing zombie-like state - Fine.
Video game protagonist survives serious injury - No dice.

Your suspension of disbelief has some curious criteria.

ScottyHoss3998d ago

If you look at our society as an ant hill then the cordyceps travel in a similar way, so if the fungus did somehow jump species and had that much of an effect on us that's a possible outcome.

SuperBlunt3998d ago

Master chief jumping twelve feet punching stiff as hell is much more realistic doe. Its a video game, it isnt meant to be real dude and sometimes you have to break that line in order to tell a good tale. Would you have rather joel grabbed a bad pair of scissors or something? Lol

Am_Ryder3998d ago (Edited 3998d ago )

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but stop using the word "scripting" for that!

In videogame context, "scripting" means how technically well cutscenes and in-game events are scripted- that is, how well animated and triggered they are.

Like, if the scene you're talking about was badly scripted, Joel and the bad guy's models wouldn't line up, it would be out of sync, it would look rough and disjointed, etc.

What you're talking about is "writing". "Scripting" and "writing" are two totally different things in videogame jargon.

On-topic: it is a bit ridiculous, but really harming protagonists is one of the few ways we have of making them seem vulnerable or upping tension in a story like this. Still, I don't disagree.

HollowedSoul143994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

i reckon you're one of those people that no one wants to watch movies with. I bet you just had plain old baths when you were a kid, no toy action figure fights or bath tub boats etc. must suck going through life being so critical because you're imagination and mimzey never fully developed as a child. the whole point was joel/drake had heart and a unheard of strong will and stubbornness to not give up no matter what the odds were, believe it or not stories have been told in our reality of people actually like that.

you and people who think like you are reasons why I'll never take a review for anything labeled as art seriously. I really hope you're not a reviewer because you suffer from biased and detached from artistic reality syndrome.....

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RichardDawkins3998d ago

I enjoyed the game thoroughly. Only gripe i have is the rebar section. Right before you open the door..Ellie is literally right next to you. You open the door and the bad gay grabs you and Ellie is no where to be found.. I feel like the rebar incident should've been tackled more realistically.. with what the devs chose, it felt like it couldv'e been avoided if Ellie intervened and you know...actually help.

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radiantmind3998d ago

The rebar scene may not have been 'realistic' but it was extremely shocking when it happened. Joel needed to be taken down hard in order for the next segment to work. Meaning layed up in bed. I cringed hard when it happened.

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PlayStation - The Concert "Changes Everything" for Music Lovers

PlayStation - The Concert is a magical musical experience for fans of the brand.

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The Last of Us Complete Now Available on PS5, Physical Collector’s Edition Coming July

Two award-winning masterpieces, together in one incredible collection.

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Christopher72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

As expected. Unless it's going to Xbox or Switch 2, we can stop hearing about these older games now? We can move on to just news about new games?

darthv7271d ago

....until the PS6 remake followed by the PS7 reboot

Christopher71d ago

Man, first year of PS6 is going to be 90% remasters. I'm going to hate it and likely hold off until new games actually get released that I can't play on my PS5.

Cacabunga71d ago

Yes I’m waiting for complete remaster…. On ps5

OtterX71d ago

...20 years later, "you haven't heard the last of us yet!" *releases The Last of Us Retro Collection*

cloganart71d ago

@Christopher

Oof, yeah. I don't think I'm picking up the PS6 until "Pro" comes out 😂

Cacabunga71d ago

I haven’t played Tlou1 since PS3 and i have the greatest memory of it

Notellin71d ago

I'm already dreading all the cross generation games and remasters we'll see with the next round of consoles.

LonDonE71d ago

lmao this is getting ridiculous but thing is if people keep buying them.. then why would they stop making them?
Peeps STOP BUYING this game.. that actually hurts me to say this as the last of us is high up on my greatest games of all times.. its one of the few games i played through start to finish 3/4 times back to back as i loved it so much. But sony need to stop, give us a Resistance 3 remaster, i would love and buy that.. such an underated series as was killzone.
Or give us infamous.. so many great series and titles i would gladly buy but they just want to keep giving us last of us.

I am done buying that game.. i would only buy part 2 remaster if they remade it and kept joel alive, or i am not interested. Hate last of us 2s story killing off joel.. the actual game is stunning and incredible, they improved so much in the gameplay department but i hate the story with a passion.

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Profchaos71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

We can stop hearing about it when they stop re-releasing them I guess.

I reckon the ps6 version will be 8k 240 and I'll still not care.

I miss new games from nd

Inverno71d ago

And HBO just announced season 3 even tho LoU2 couldn't possibly be so long that it wouldn't be able to fit in 1 season. They're just milking it at this point.

darthv7271d ago

speaking of the HBO series... I felt they should have made part 1 across two seasons, then address part 2 in seasons 3 and 4. so now i have a feeling they rushed through part 1 in season 1 to make season 2 a cliff hanger with Joel's impending demise being the starting point to Season 3.

-Foxtrot71d ago

I love how they decided to rush, chop and change things for Season 1 to get through the game yet for TLOU Part II it’s like “we’re going to do multiple seasons and take our time”

Inverno71d ago

Okay after seeing that there's only 7 episodes I take it back. Though I think it's incredibly stupid not to have just made the season longer. Another season just to finish what could've just been a 13 episode season seems counterintuitive but aiight. I put that on HBO tho.

Neonridr72d ago

This will be the 4th time Sony sells us The Last of Us Part 1.. And the 2nd time on the PS5.

Knushwood Butt71d ago

They don't want Metroid Prime holding that record,

NotoriousWhiz71d ago

Strange, I thought the record went to Street Fighter 2.

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FPS_D3TH71d ago

We are approaching Skyrim levels here

Profchaos71d ago

At this point we are at Skyrim in terms of frequency. Skyrim was one per generation. If you exclude VR Skyrim we've now exceeded it

Tlou 1 PS3, 1 PS4 2 ps5
Skyrim 1 ps360 2 PS4/x1/vr 1 ps5/sx

Tlou 4
Skyrim 4

Christopher71d ago

Not quite. Skyrim had:

PS3/360/PC
PS4/X1
VR
Switch
Skyrim Special Edition PC/PS4/X1
Skyrim Special Edition PS5/XSX

VersusDMC71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Also add skyrim bundles like the one below and all the humble bundles since that's what everyone is doing here

https://www.xbox.com/en-CA/...

darthv7271d ago

@Chris, LoU is getting just as bad by milking the same user base. At least Skyrim was able to sell to a wider audience via different platforms.

Christopher71d ago

@darthv72: I don't know why you're telling me that. I only corrected on number of Skyrim re-releases/ports/etc. I didn't say anything else.

Profchaos71d ago

@christopher guess I forgot just how much was out I think the special editions are technically one release despite being cross platform though would the Alexa version count

Christopher71d ago

@Profchaos: I guess, but I'd consider it a separate release since it rolled them into one at a later date but definitely there is a PS5/XSX version with PS5/XSX supported updates specific to them.

Chevalier71d ago

"LoU is getting just as bad by milking the same user base"

Weird. Like 35% of PS5 owners are NEW to Playstation. Plus this is really for new fans from the TV series for season 2 of TLOU.

I recall the same idiotic comments when the 1st one was remade just before TLOU TV Series came out and it went on the be one of the best selling games that year.

So maybe get your FACTS straight. Unlike Skyrim getting literally releases in 3 generations and 10 releases.

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Neonridr71d ago

I gotta figure RE4 is up there too

FPS_D3TH71d ago

No. Those are remakes. Not remasters

Neonridr70d ago

@FPS - we've had quite a few RE4 remasters, only 1 remake.

CrimsonWing6970d ago (Edited 70d ago )

@FPS_D3TH

It blows my mind how people do some mental gymnastics to try to cope with a game they like doing the same thing (technically more) they’re complaining about for another game.

RE4 - PS2, GC
RE4 w Motion Controls - Wii
Literally RE4 HD Remaster - Xbox 360, PS3
I’m assuming a port of RE HD - PS4, Xbox One
RE4 Remake - PS5, Xsex

1 Remake and the bunch are Remasters… how, I mean how—Y’know what, it doesn’t matter anymore…

P_Bomb71d ago

Store says I already own it. I guess it’s just a straight twin-pack. Looks like they added 4 maps to ‘No Return’.

VersusDMC71d ago

You don't need to buy this to get the maps, marlene and bill. It all got patched in to the game on the 3rd.

P_Bomb71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Good to know. I’ve watched runs of ‘No Return’ but have yet to try it myself. Soon, soon 😉

Knushwood Butt71d ago

Yeah, No Return got a content update.
Three new trophies too.

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A mysterious physical edition of a Naughty Dog game is in the works

billibil-kun: "As The Last of Us season 2 prepares to air on HBO, we've spotted a mysterious reference to a special edition of a physical PS5 game from the franchise. Here's our take on the game, which remains unclear for now."

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Relientk7781d ago

It's probably a bundle of both The Last of Us games

Nyxus81d ago

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. The Last of Us Part 1 + II Remastered.

lukasmain81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

That's totally what it is I believe. It would be a great bundle for new players getting into the ecosystem

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Goodguy0181d ago

They're really milking this franchise lol

anast81d ago

You must comment on every Mario, Zelda, and Skyrim article too.

darthv7281d ago

....because there has been the same mario, Zelda and Skyrim games for three console generations?

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isarai81d ago

@darthv72

Literally yes 🤨

Cacabunga81d ago

Every Mario and Zelda is different. This is just the exact same game over and over

anast81d ago

Skyrim, yes. Mario and Zelda since the 80's

Loktai81d ago

@darthv72 Uh yes. Yes it has. They milked BOTW across Wii U and switch and they STILL want 40+ for it new and never discounted it. They made "remasters" of older zelda games as well on switch and in the past onto the other gameboy platforms from the older platforms. They have done the same with Mario. They port the paper mario games and mario RPG to switch. And now I PROMISE you they are going to show "enhancements" for those same games on Switch 2. I PROMISE you thats going to get mentioned, maybe even tomorrow. Last of us Part 1 has been across techncially 3 generations, but 2 has been 2- and JUST BARELY 2 because it released just a few months before the PS5 did - and so if that counts as milking it, what do you call breath of the wild on Wii U then going to switch or Twilight Princess coming uot on gamecube and Wii - OR ZELDA WIND WAKER HD coming out?

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Chevalier81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

"Skyrim games for three console generations?"

Darth showing some idiocy here. Seriously yes Skyrim has been re-released more than any other game period. It's been released on 3 generations - PS3, PS4, PS5, PSVR, PC, PC VR, Switch, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S. That's 10 releases across 3 generations! So Seriously get your DAMN facts straight.

Yui_Suzumiya81d ago

And yet Fallout 3 has never been Remastered. Prison time should be given for that offense, lol

darthv7281d ago

Skyrim sure, but the other two... not so much

thorstein80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

@darth GTAV says hi.

Skyrim has an Alexa edition.

Chevalier81d ago

Clearly a guy with business acumen! Why would Sony want to rebundle games and release them in time for the 2nd season of TLOU to release? I mean the last time a bunch of idiots laughed at Sony then guess what? TLOU part 1 for PS5 only hit top 5 sales and kept popping onto charts throughout the year?! Lol

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Chevalier80d ago

"Skyrim sure, but the other two... not so much"

Multiple Mario and Zelda games have made 2 generations. Maybe you guys forget that over a 3rd of the gamers on Playstation have NEVER owned a Playstation system before and some are coming into it as a result of the TV show.

People said the EXACT same crap when the 1st game got released on PS5, but, it ended up being one of the best selling games the year it came out.

Also for all the idiots complaining. Playstation at least offer $10 upgrades for some of these games. Have you EVER seen a re-release by Nintendo, Xbox, Bethesda offer that?! No I didn't think so.

darthv7280d ago

releasing a newer version because the previous version is not physically compatible is not quite the same as taking a perfectly good existing game that already works on the newer platform and repackaging it under a remaster brand for that newer platform and then repackaging it AGAIN for the same platform.

And that whole line of *insert people here may not have had a PS before* is a line of BS. PS2 is the most selling platform in history... chances are very good a high percentage upgrade to the PS3 and then upgraded to the PS4 and are upgrading again for the PS5. So dont give me that line of bologna. you'd rather swallow every bit of Sony propaganda instead of call them out for milking (and yes this is milking) this game. You know there will be a PS6 version and likely a PS7 remaster.

Of course i am purely speculating on the 6 & 7 but there is a high degree of probability because of what they did already between 3, 4 & 5. And you defending even the $10 upgrade when most of the XB games get free upgrades is just another sign of your blind loyalty. I didnt think it possible and gave you benefit of the doubt but now I can see i was totally wrong.

Chevalier80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

@Darth

Again your examples are absolutely terrible. Repackaged games for new audiences isn't new with the high cost of development. This release is timed for people that are new to Playstation coming from watching season 2 of the TV show. If you're surprised and annoyed by this then stop gaming then. It will happen if there's some new Skyrim, Fallout, Doom or whatever TV show comes out too.

Also you're the guy who defends Xbox for this crap too. Skyrim releases were done while owned by Xbox.

Also you mentioned the PS2, repackaged games happened all the time then too. If you think that repackaged games is going to go away with the skyrocketing cost of development is going away then sorry cover your eyes and plug your ears and pretend like an idiot then. You will be complaining daily soon.

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OhReginald81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

I hope it's both ps5 games bundled with all updates including the new no return add ons for April. I'll triple dip on that.

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