The Wii U may be the best console of this generation. Here is why Nintendo might win the console war.
Now THAT is a big claim, not to mention a massive upset. I still think this is Sony's generation, but it's a long generation at that. Best of luck to all!
yea ... I love Nintendo and I am enjoying my Wii U but with the lack of full third party support, the core gamers (in general) will at best view the Wii U as a secondary console. It is really hard being a main console without the FULL support from WB Games, EA, Activision, Take-Two, UBIsoft, Capcom, Konami, etc etc. For Wii U to win, it's only chance would be if it got the casuals hooked like it did with Wii Sports and Wii Fit on the Wii but the Wii U's price is above what casuals prefer and the gamepad is just not as innovative as the Wiimote was in 2006. Best case scenario is for Nintendo to win back it's core fans and try to expand their own second party contracts (like they been doing with Bayonetta, Wonderful 101, Devil's Third)so that it is a super appealing console so that former (or on the fence) Nintendo fans will buy it and also make it clearly the best secondary console to own by having the best true exclusive games if you already own a gaming PC, PS4 or XB1. As long as you keep gamers happy ... and you are selling well and making a profit so that your investors are happy as well ... it really doesn't matter what place you come in.
@loadedklip WB Games, EA, Activision, Take-Two, UBIsoft, Capcom,& Konami all have secondary games IMO. When exclusives are the biggest decision maker in your console purchase. How can the Wii U be a secondary console when they have the most exclusives? IMO There is no 3rd party games that will make me purchase a system.
@ GordonKnight Exclusives are the biggest reason to make a console purchase "when all else is equal" as in equal third party support. What I mean is that while you take for granted that these third party games are on PC, PS4 and XB1 ... they do not support the Wii U at all. If u can only buy ONE system and that one system is a Wii U ... you will get Nintendo games but you will be missing out on nearly everything from UBIsoft, EA, Activision, WB games, Capcom, Konami, Take-Two, Bethesda, etc etc etc. That is a TON of games you are missing out on. As great as Nintendo is ... they cannot and will not make as many total AAA titles as all those publishers combined. PS ... I love the Wii U and am enjoying the hell out of Mario Kart 8. I am not trying to knock them, just being real. If you can own two consoles the choice should be this ... Main console = Pick one of the following for your third party games and the BEST exclusives for your taste from either XB1, PS4 or PC. Secondary console = Wii U most likely unless you really hate colorful games :) Now if you have the money, time and space ... get everything.
The problem with the WiiU is the lack of games that it has that would appeal to a wide variety of gamers. Whether the fanboys want to admit it or not Nintendo needs 3rd party support. What does all that money in the bank good for if you don't invest in your own studios or partners. As for Nintendo winning that's just wishful thinking ;)
"IMO There is no 3rd party games that will make me purchase a system" So ultimately, you buy consoles based on the merits of a SINGLE publisher? Granted, they're a big dev/pub, but still, I would never choose a console that way. Exclusives are important, but it if it also means VERY few third party games, I have to pass. 3/4 of my games are from third parties.
The problem with most (if not all) Nintendo home consoles is that most of the gaming public finds lack of 3rd party games too steep a trade-off for their exclusive games
I guess my view is the exception, because I have the X1, PS4, & Wii U. This makes 3rd party games have less value in my view.
Yea as it stands right now my PS4 is my main goto system, and my Wii U is my secondary console for now. Right now there are some 1st party games I want so its an easy choice to have the system, 3rd party games now that's where its gets a bit dicey. Hopefully they can get together with the pubs/devs to get more games on the system.
"When exclusives are the biggest decision maker in your console purchase. How can the Wii U be a secondary console when they have the most exclusives?" Those Nintendo exclusives might interest someone less than exclusives on the other two consoles. I'd find it very entertaining if WiiU did come back and win the generation, but I still wouldn't want a WiiU if all else remained the same.
@GordonKnight Having the free income to already have all 3 systems with games while also having the free time to enjoy 3 consoles...that's the exception.
They needed the big hitters a lot earlier than this, either Zelda or MK or Smash Bros would have done. I got one purely for MH3U and sank hundreds of hours with friends on it but it has been gathering dust since.
It's certainly Nintendo's win for now, and Sony certainly has the most potential to "win" the generation (again)... but, sadly, most of that potential is currently unrealized. It's a sad state of affairs when a company's new gaming platform is markedly inferior to it's old platform. I know fanboys will freak out at that sentence, but maybe if I say "obviously I'm not talking about hardware specifications" I'll dissuade a a rabid attack or two?
If you mean features well yeah, but the PS3 that launched is not the same PS3 you can buy now. It evolved over time and so will the PS4, you have to mark it for its primary function, games. And this launch is much better then the PS3 launch period, and although a quite 1st year for exclusives year 2 is going to be one hell of a ride.
I think if most people wake up to the fact that the PS4 and Xbone are simply streamlined low-mid range PCs that offer less for more $$$ in the long run (monthly fees + expensive games) than the Wii U has a good chance of coming out on top riding on its great lineup of exclusives. Likely it will become #2 just becoming the complimentary secondary console though because of its lack of third party support.
I'm not sure where I'd put the PS4 in amongst the 'average' gamers pc. I know that mine is old with a capital O, 4850 1gb graphics card, 4gb ram, old ASUS mobo, 3.16ghz dual core, all great in their time but right now I'd be looking at pretty much a total rebuild. We've all read the 'how to build a pc for the price of a ps4' and I'll even give them lack of peripherals etc. because yes, I'd be using my TV and sound system and for most builds they run games on mediumish at a good frame rate and may indeed be comparable in quality to current console offerings. The difference comes in that 5 years down the line the exact same box I have now will be playing every new game released. Of course it won't look as good as had I kept my PC up to date in 5 years time but that's the trade off we make :) and most of us know that (except the people who seem to think that the PS4 will keep pace with the PC into the next decade which it blatantly can't). Your game comment is a difficult one though, yes we pay to play online but as a perk of that we get our 6 games (PS4), personally I own a PS3, Vita and PS4 so I get 6 games a month. Let's average that to $25 to take into account vita, indies and the occasional $50-60 game. At 6 games a month that's a 'value' of $150, at 12 months a year that's $1800 which I would say saves me money in the long run. I personally have about 25 unplayed games on Steam that were on super sale. The problem is that my time does not increase as the money spent on the game decreases and most of my sales were on older games, good games, but older. Also PC games have little to no resale value.
Taero what is sad is you are saying that pc will not age as well as a ps4. The ps4 uses the same tech and an i7 along will blow a ps4 out of the water with an ok gpu. Ram is also cheap. I'm sorry there is only so much coding to the metal that will cause a ps4 to out preform a pc with an i7 and a ok gpu in it. The ps2, ps3 and now the ps4 all revel in that same power myth. None of them contributed any thing to pc gpu tech or power. No hype any thing uses any of their chips or designs. If you need the idea of pc gaming then development teams all over the west are ready to cater to the lower specs of a ps4 compared to a pc. It is just easier. A few tricks here and there and wham you are wowed. It's ok there is on real game play.... look at those graphics! Hey but it is cheap! Pc cost too much right... Yet these same people hate nintendo it seems because of some confusion over being adults? You are playing video games... there is nothing adult about that.
how long will you keep doing this console war thing before you join Nintendo ? (:
Never say Never, but I guess this I time we can definitely say - NEVER.
Actually I think this will be both a long and short generation. The PS4 will last the longest between the 3, and Nintendo will release the new console the soonest.
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I cannot consciously say that they have won and or are winning the console war. They may be offering the most enticing games right now, in this moment. But they have quite a long fight ahead of them with PS4 and Xbone games starting to roll out.
i think as ps4 and obviously xb1 continue to heavily rely on western games while nintendo remains very niche and versatile and japanese in nature this could be a possibility. i mean gamers cant continue to drool over similar shooters can they....can they?
Lol people still drool over the same games that Nintendo comes out with year after year. So what's the difference?
stop trolling dude, whether you like nintendo's offerings or not you cant deny how good they are at reinventing genres and adding charm to each title they release hence why they consistently have critically acclaimed first party releases every year...thats nowhere near the same as the copy n paste shooer-fest we see across sony and microsoft
Not trolling when it's true. Reinventing genres? How? Tell me examples. I'll agree they do know how to add charm to their titles and it seems like the yarn art style is what's in right now. Idk I just don't think you can criticize one thing and defend a similar situation.
A new power up is reinventing the wheel? Nintendo offers the same old platformers and suddenly it's innovation? You guys bash shooters when it's convenient for you guys but foam at the mouth for a generic title like splatoon and devils third. ;)
@lolwut can you give me an example of a game similar to splatoon. Do you even know what the word generic means?
@dboyc310 they reinvented playforming several times...reinvented 3d adventure games several times...the had the light gun then inproved on motion controls...the reinvented the fighting genre with smash...they reinvented the racing genre with mario kart...and if splatoon turns out as good as it looks they will reinvent the shooter too i dont mind guys like you preferring other consoles, i myself love sony and nintendo but you cant deny nintendos 30 year history of greatness...mario galaxy was arguably the best game released last gen and thats quite an accomplishment for the weakest console in an industry over-saturated with shooters
yeah, because i've been drooling over Splatoon and codename STEAM since NES days..... no wait. thats not right. I mean i've been playing Pikmin, Steel Diver, Rolling western, Pushmo, and Sakura samurai since Nes.... no thats not right either.
Similar shooters? You have no idea what the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One titles are for 2014/2015, do you?
According to the ill informed Nintendo fanboys we only play shooters.
Well said ;)
I mean sure, it could.
i dnt know about nintendo winning but i can see all companies doing well. this seem to be a generation that owning all consoles is a must.
You know what, I agree with you. Initially I had all my interest set on PS4, but over the past few months I've really become a PS4/Wii U guy, and I even have interest in Xbox One's upcoming exclusives like Sunset Overdrive. I really like the stuff we saw at E3 this year from everyone around.
I can't believe you are getting disagrees for liking every system's exclusives ... that's sad even for N4G's standards. The fanboyism on all sides needs to stop.
Very well said. They all have excellent games on the horizon..
I believe Wii U could be a solid second. To be first however, would require something like smash bros or mario kart getting game of year, and Zelda capturing that after. I know 'GOTY' awards dont mean much, but if nintendo can prove their offering have a lot of quality, i think people will buy. Right now people know nintendo doesnt get 3rd party support, but they also know that 80% of the library is exclusive. I think quality is all that matters now.
"but if nintendo can prove their offering have a lot of quality" Nintendo has been proving that for the past... I don't know, 30 years or so. Say whatever you want about their consoles, but the fact remains that Nintendo's big games always deliver. GOTYs? Don't make me laugh.
I personally know Nintendo games are amazing, im a big nintendo fan. They have to prove to other people that not only are the game exclusive, but worth the money. Maybe GOTY wasnt a good example but they need to keep the quality up. Ive heard they have been hiring a lot so i hope that helps, i really dont want any more bad droughts on Wii U.
Great games or not people don't want to buy a £150 console for a few good games just look at the Vita. Nintendo are out of touch, people are blind to this because of the 3DS but those numbers have already dropped from DS numbers. And with the tablet and phone market only getting bigger Nintendos grip on the portable market is going to slip even more. If things don't change 10/15 years time there won't be a Nintendo, they need the console business to survive.
gave it some years and say this to me again like i say xbox one will be the best gamer console out their nintendo is a joke and sony is trying to win but like all way sony fall short in games
Sounds like you only owned an Xbox 360 on the past generation, so you really, really, REALLY have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously, I don't see any other explanation for that incredibly absurd comment you made.
The PS1 and 2 fell short? News to me, am I the only one to not know this?
don't think its fair because the wiiu has a lower price point. So in other words,it has to.
Well that's not true. It's had a lower price point than PS4/XB1 since it launched but up until recently it wasn't really selling a lot of numbers.
well that's no ones fault. but just by looking at the price it should outsell its competition
Truth be told that's largely because of Nintendo's initially poor marketing. If your audience isn't aware of your product or they can't understand it then they probably won't buy it.
It's not that people don't seem to understand the console, I mean jeez it's a system with a tablet like controller. The console just isn't appealing to many gamers as the sales speak for themselves ;)
@LOL_WUT The Wii wasn't appealing to most "gamers" (by that it seems you're implying PS/XB gamers). That didn't affect it's sales. I didn't have a Wii, but I own a Wii U - and sold the PS3 because the PC/Wii U combo has been super enjoyable, for me. I definitely think marketing is to blame. As a "gamer" the gamepad was obvious for what it was, but it didn't convince me to buy it. I actually bought the Wii U on a whim - and I'm glad I did. People who bought the Wii though don't know (and may not want to afford) the Wii U. This comes from an owner of the Wii U who likes to talk about it, finding that people who owned a Wii (and many, many who own a PS3/XB360), don't have a clue that it is a new console. So, yes, marketing has had a lot to do with it for the bulk of people who would purchase the Wii U, and aren't "gamers"; or even gamers who don't keep up with the newer products in the market.
No, there's more to selling a console than price point. The biggest factor is undoubtedly marketing.
generally speaking it should sell more units because of price. Now Nintendo is starting to pump out games which should make WiiU a lot more appealing
As someone who games on PC, the Wii U is the most appealing console right now and that is why is the only next gen console I have so far but it will be difficult to "defeat" Sony this gen in terms of sales.
what console war? I own an XB1 AND a WiiU. I'm not losing out!
You're only missing out on the best 2 platforms.
PC and PS4, right? I'd like to get a PC myself at some point, but it's tough enough affording consoles right now.
Do the people who write these articles consider the fact that the Wii U had a year head start and that the PS4 & Xbox One have only been out around 7-8 months? Obviously it has more games and first party titles so far but we have yet to see what the new consoles offer properly.
It's not nintendo fault the others could not lunch on time. You have two almost identical systems that launched later yet sold off of pr. On beat the wiiu while the other pasted it but it lead seems more like a bubble where a serious drought it also about to hit the ps4. Unfortunately the wiiu will be releasing some huge gamers for gamers this year. Then the many games that where ignored will help build a great back log of games to play.
Wii U won't win the console war.... 3DS might end up on top though since it has its niche all for itself while PS4 and Xbone have to split theirs. My predictions for final standings 3DS PS4 Xbone Vita Wii U
Ehhh I think it might go like PS4 3DS Xbox one Wii u Vita
There is no console war to be won and if you think there is you are a idiot.
I am sorry but no. The Wii U appeals to a niche market which is indicated by the sales so far; it has no reason to be in this position with the lower price point and release good, big games (the games havn't exactly been poor) except for its niche appeal. The third party problem isn't helping either. Edit: What will help is a complete shift in philosophy but Nintendo seem head against that
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The author certainly knows how to take a big stick and poke N4G with it.
Comedy hour at N4G I see.
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What is winning the war? Yes, if they drop the price and figure out a way to incentivise play on the WiiU for those who own a 3ds, they may be able to sell many consoles to this who already own a ps4 or xbone. Heres the problem. As time passes the nostalgia of old ips fade. And with what we saw at e3 this yr, within 3 yrs the xbone and ps4 r really gonna stand out. Couple the entertainment abilities and its gonna get real tough. Kast gen the wii was much cheaper than a ps3 and had a new way to game. Not this time. Now the ps4 has morpheus and Now, and xbone has the kinect and cable integration, and both r making their own tv shows. Thats why I think the key is trying to sell a wiiU to every 3ds owner. I will say it again. Should hav made a real next gen machine w/ xbone specs and sold for $3-49...a yr ahead of everyone...and used the 3ds, not a tablet.
Geez, the author must have been knocked up side the head with that mallet in the picture! "Nintendo Will Ultimately Win The Console War" Not even close. This generation of gamers, grown-ups and kids alike, are not as interested in the Wii U as much as Xbox and PlayStation. And I say this because both Sony and Microsoft have gained so much ground already within a short period of time. I can't play a racing game on Wii U like Forza and DriveClub. I can't play anything close to Grand Theft Auto on Wii U. Anything close to inFAMOUS and Titanfall, not on Wii U either. The absence of Minecraft for instance. It's lifetime sales are 35 million! Huge, huge sales numbers...sales that Nintendo is missing out on. Two of the most requested games by kids are Pokemon on 3DS and Minecraft on Xbox and PlayStation. No Minecraft on Wii U is a big mistake. The lack of third party support has hurt Nintendo. Mario and Luigi can't do it alone...they need killer games from third party as well. Gamers buy consoles for many reasons...exclusives, 2nd and 3rd party games. If we were buying games for exclusives only, then I could see Nintendo winning this so called console war maybe! You'll never play an exclusive like you do on a Nintendo system. But gamers want variety, hardcore, shooters, co-op, online multiplayer...and Nintendo lacks in this department as well. I think it's safe to say that Wii U will most likely be the 2nd console for hardcore Xbox One and PlayStation 4 gamers.
this comment section prove why sony games fail to reach 10 million in sales or more, for example their only game to do that was gran turismo.