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Nintendo Will Ultimately Win The Console War

The Wii U may be the best console of this generation. Here is why Nintendo might win the console war.

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randomass1713593d ago

Now THAT is a big claim, not to mention a massive upset. I still think this is Sony's generation, but it's a long generation at that. Best of luck to all!

Loadedklip3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

yea ... I love Nintendo and I am enjoying my Wii U but with the lack of full third party support, the core gamers (in general) will at best view the Wii U as a secondary console. It is really hard being a main console without the FULL support from WB Games, EA, Activision, Take-Two, UBIsoft, Capcom, Konami, etc etc.

For Wii U to win, it's only chance would be if it got the casuals hooked like it did with Wii Sports and Wii Fit on the Wii but the Wii U's price is above what casuals prefer and the gamepad is just not as innovative as the Wiimote was in 2006.

Best case scenario is for Nintendo to win back it's core fans and try to expand their own second party contracts (like they been doing with Bayonetta, Wonderful 101, Devil's Third)so that it is a super appealing console so that former (or on the fence) Nintendo fans will buy it and also make it clearly the best secondary console to own by having the best true exclusive games if you already own a gaming PC, PS4 or XB1.

As long as you keep gamers happy ... and you are selling well and making a profit so that your investors are happy as well ... it really doesn't matter what place you come in.

GordonKnight3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

@loadedklip

WB Games, EA, Activision, Take-Two, UBIsoft, Capcom,& Konami all have secondary games IMO.

When exclusives are the biggest decision maker in your console purchase. How can the Wii U be a secondary console when they have the most exclusives? IMO There is no 3rd party games that will make me purchase a system.

Loadedklip3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

@ GordonKnight

Exclusives are the biggest reason to make a console purchase "when all else is equal" as in equal third party support.

What I mean is that while you take for granted that these third party games are on PC, PS4 and XB1 ... they do not support the Wii U at all.

If u can only buy ONE system and that one system is a Wii U ... you will get Nintendo games but you will be missing out on nearly everything from UBIsoft, EA, Activision, WB games, Capcom, Konami, Take-Two, Bethesda, etc etc etc.

That is a TON of games you are missing out on.
As great as Nintendo is ... they cannot and will not make as many total AAA titles as all those publishers combined.

PS ... I love the Wii U and am enjoying the hell out of Mario Kart 8. I am not trying to knock them, just being real.

If you can own two consoles the choice should be this ...

Main console = Pick one of the following for your third party games and the BEST exclusives for your taste from either XB1, PS4 or PC.

Secondary console = Wii U most likely unless you really hate colorful games :)

Now if you have the money, time and space ... get everything.

LOL_WUT3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

The problem with the WiiU is the lack of games that it has that would appeal to a wide variety of gamers. Whether the fanboys want to admit it or not Nintendo needs 3rd party support. What does all that money in the bank good for if you don't invest in your own studios or partners.

As for Nintendo winning that's just wishful thinking ;)

SilentNegotiator3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

"IMO There is no 3rd party games that will make me purchase a system"

So ultimately, you buy consoles based on the merits of a SINGLE publisher? Granted, they're a big dev/pub, but still, I would never choose a console that way. Exclusives are important, but it if it also means VERY few third party games, I have to pass. 3/4 of my games are from third parties.

uptownsoul3593d ago

The problem with most (if not all) Nintendo home consoles is that most of the gaming public finds lack of 3rd party games too steep a trade-off for their exclusive games

GordonKnight3593d ago

I guess my view is the exception, because I have the X1, PS4, & Wii U. This makes 3rd party games have less value in my view.

Aceman183593d ago

Yea as it stands right now my PS4 is my main goto system, and my Wii U is my secondary console for now.

Right now there are some 1st party games I want so its an easy choice to have the system, 3rd party games now that's where its gets a bit dicey. Hopefully they can get together with the pubs/devs to get more games on the system.

MysticStrummer3593d ago

"When exclusives are the biggest decision maker in your console purchase. How can the Wii U be a secondary console when they have the most exclusives?"

Those Nintendo exclusives might interest someone less than exclusives on the other two consoles.

I'd find it very entertaining if WiiU did come back and win the generation, but I still wouldn't want a WiiU if all else remained the same.

SilentNegotiator3593d ago

@GordonKnight

Having the free income to already have all 3 systems with games while also having the free time to enjoy 3 consoles...that's the exception.

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iDadio3593d ago

They needed the big hitters a lot earlier than this, either Zelda or MK or Smash Bros would have done. I got one purely for MH3U and sank hundreds of hours with friends on it but it has been gathering dust since.

Xof3593d ago

It's certainly Nintendo's win for now, and Sony certainly has the most potential to "win" the generation (again)... but, sadly, most of that potential is currently unrealized.

It's a sad state of affairs when a company's new gaming platform is markedly inferior to it's old platform. I know fanboys will freak out at that sentence, but maybe if I say "obviously I'm not talking about hardware specifications" I'll dissuade a a rabid attack or two?

Mr_Writer853593d ago

If you mean features well yeah, but the PS3 that launched is not the same PS3 you can buy now.

It evolved over time and so will the PS4, you have to mark it for its primary function, games.

And this launch is much better then the PS3 launch period, and although a quite 1st year for exclusives year 2 is going to be one hell of a ride.

herbs3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

I think if most people wake up to the fact that the PS4 and Xbone are simply streamlined low-mid range PCs that offer less for more $$$ in the long run (monthly fees + expensive games) than the Wii U has a good chance of coming out on top riding on its great lineup of exclusives. Likely it will become #2 just becoming the complimentary secondary console though because of its lack of third party support.

Taero3593d ago

I'm not sure where I'd put the PS4 in amongst the 'average' gamers pc. I know that mine is old with a capital O, 4850 1gb graphics card, 4gb ram, old ASUS mobo, 3.16ghz dual core, all great in their time but right now I'd be looking at pretty much a total rebuild. We've all read the 'how to build a pc for the price of a ps4' and I'll even give them lack of peripherals etc. because yes, I'd be using my TV and sound system and for most builds they run games on mediumish at a good frame rate and may indeed be comparable in quality to current console offerings.

The difference comes in that 5 years down the line the exact same box I have now will be playing every new game released. Of course it won't look as good as had I kept my PC up to date in 5 years time but that's the trade off we make :) and most of us know that (except the people who seem to think that the PS4 will keep pace with the PC into the next decade which it blatantly can't).

Your game comment is a difficult one though, yes we pay to play online but as a perk of that we get our 6 games (PS4), personally I own a PS3, Vita and PS4 so I get 6 games a month. Let's average that to $25 to take into account vita, indies and the occasional $50-60 game. At 6 games a month that's a 'value' of $150, at 12 months a year that's $1800 which I would say saves me money in the long run. I personally have about 25 unplayed games on Steam that were on super sale.

The problem is that my time does not increase as the money spent on the game decreases and most of my sales were on older games, good games, but older. Also PC games have little to no resale value.

N4g_null3593d ago

Taero what is sad is you are saying that pc will not age as well as a ps4. The ps4 uses the same tech and an i7 along will blow a ps4 out of the water with an ok gpu. Ram is also cheap.

I'm sorry there is only so much coding to the metal that will cause a ps4 to out preform a pc with an i7 and a ok gpu in it.

The ps2, ps3 and now the ps4 all revel in that same power myth. None of them contributed any thing to pc gpu tech or power. No hype any thing uses any of their chips or designs.

If you need the idea of pc gaming then development teams all over the west are ready to cater to the lower specs of a ps4 compared to a pc. It is just easier. A few tricks here and there and wham you are wowed. It's ok there is on real game play.... look at those graphics!

Hey but it is cheap! Pc cost too much right... Yet these same people hate nintendo it seems because of some confusion over being adults? You are playing video games... there is nothing adult about that.

BullyMangler3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

how long will you keep doing this console war thing before you join Nintendo ?

(:

Magicite3593d ago

Never say Never, but I guess this I time we can definitely say - NEVER.

3-4-53593d ago

Actually I think this will be both a long and short generation.

The PS4 will last the longest between the 3, and Nintendo will release the new console the soonest.

madpuppy3593d ago

Nintendo and Mario are the hoop and stick of video games, fun many years ago but, everything else has surpassed it.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/w...

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Rothalack3593d ago

I cannot consciously say that they have won and or are winning the console war. They may be offering the most enticing games right now, in this moment. But they have quite a long fight ahead of them with PS4 and Xbone games starting to roll out.

fatneal3593d ago

i think as ps4 and obviously xb1 continue to heavily rely on western games while nintendo remains very niche and versatile and japanese in nature this could be a possibility. i mean gamers cant continue to drool over similar shooters can they....can they?

Thatguy-3103593d ago

Lol people still drool over the same games that Nintendo comes out with year after year. So what's the difference?

fatneal3593d ago

stop trolling dude, whether you like nintendo's offerings or not you cant deny how good they are at reinventing genres and adding charm to each title they release hence why they consistently have critically acclaimed first party releases every year...thats nowhere near the same as the copy n paste shooer-fest we see across sony and microsoft

Thatguy-3103593d ago

Not trolling when it's true. Reinventing genres? How? Tell me examples. I'll agree they do know how to add charm to their titles and it seems like the yarn art style is what's in right now. Idk I just don't think you can criticize one thing and defend a similar situation.

LOL_WUT3593d ago

A new power up is reinventing the wheel? Nintendo offers the same old platformers and suddenly it's innovation? You guys bash shooters when it's convenient for you guys but foam at the mouth for a generic title like splatoon and devils third. ;)

weekev153593d ago

@lolwut can you give me an example of a game similar to splatoon. Do you even know what the word generic means?

fatneal3593d ago

@dboyc310 they reinvented playforming several times...reinvented 3d adventure games several times...the had the light gun then inproved on motion controls...the reinvented the fighting genre with smash...they reinvented the racing genre with mario kart...and if splatoon turns out as good as it looks they will reinvent the shooter too

i dont mind guys like you preferring other consoles, i myself love sony and nintendo but you cant deny nintendos 30 year history of greatness...mario galaxy was arguably the best game released last gen and thats quite an accomplishment for the weakest console in an industry over-saturated with shooters

AWBrawler3593d ago

yeah, because i've been drooling over Splatoon and codename STEAM since NES days..... no wait. thats not right. I mean i've been playing Pikmin, Steel Diver, Rolling western, Pushmo, and Sakura samurai since Nes.... no thats not right either.

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WeAreLegion3593d ago

Similar shooters?

You have no idea what the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One titles are for 2014/2015, do you?

Mr_Writer853593d ago

According to the ill informed Nintendo fanboys we only play shooters.

bahabeast3593d ago

i dnt know about nintendo winning but i can see all companies doing well. this seem to be a generation that owning all consoles is a must.

randomass1713593d ago

You know what, I agree with you. Initially I had all my interest set on PS4, but over the past few months I've really become a PS4/Wii U guy, and I even have interest in Xbox One's upcoming exclusives like Sunset Overdrive. I really like the stuff we saw at E3 this year from everyone around.

Loadedklip3593d ago

I can't believe you are getting disagrees for liking every system's exclusives ... that's sad even for N4G's standards.

The fanboyism on all sides needs to stop.

marloc_x3593d ago

Very well said. They all have excellent games on the horizon..

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

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purple1014d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref3d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde3d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19723d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville3d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21833d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai4d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref3d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan3d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19724d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref3d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde3d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19723d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19723d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier3d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto3d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21833d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman3d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

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XiNatsuDragnel10d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing9d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS9d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder9d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21839d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.