Xbox One Boss Phil Spencer has bought a lot of positive things ever since he transitioned to his new position.
Doesn't really give a good enough reasons to be honest. He talks about the conference like it was pure gold but it was pretty louzy at average at best. They had games but nothing really new that would make you go out there and buy an Xbox One. It basiclly felt more like a third party conference at timea. Halo 5, Sunset Overdrive and a few others were the only decent things at their conference
Still say they should have kept the gameplay reveal of sunset overdrive until e3. Would have been of better value to them.
That's another thing that bugged me. The fact that Microsoft made all these early announcements to make room in their conference. In the end most of their early announcements showed up in the conference. What they should have done is not made the announcements and just unveiled the titles at their conference. It would have been much better that way in my opinion.
I think the kinectless sku and price drop would have been a huge bomb if they had saved it for E3. Instead they reveal it 2 weeks early killing the X1 sales for May.
Looking at it from y'all perspective I totally agtee . I remember them saying they had too much to show so they announced and showed things early. Then turn around and show it again...misleading people to believe that they had a ton of new stuff to show. After the conference I am left with a men feeling. If they would have held off then it would had had a bigger impact. Uncharted alone could very well win it for sony. IMO.
MS E3 was not enough to convince me to buy a Xbox One. Also, anyone notice the lack of usual Xbox fanboys in this article. PM me if you're ok truefan1. I'm concerned.
they should have saved the kinectless one news for E3. that would have made up for the lack of exclusives. oh boy. and i can't believe they announced some of the games before E3... why would anyone do that? maybe they were trying to hype the E3 but that certainly didn't go their way. Sony will have it easy this time again... just a walk in the park. just a walk in the park. unless they show off too much of indies. i love indies but it just isn't a mega bomb news.
The worst thing is that they lost a chance to beat Sony at E3 with a large margin. Sony comes to e3 with a lot of baggage, PS4, PS3, Vita, Psp?, morpheus and PsNow. So Sony will have little space for games. MS could have caught a good momentum, but in the end even with the all the games, very few were interesting or really new... One thing that I've noticed, it seems to be a rule this e3. Many of the presented games are or seem to be in a very early stage of development.
In the interview he briefly references Crackdown 3 using the cloud for destruction. "The destruction that Dave Jones is building using the cloud, that allows to do things on a console that have never been done before will be really special.” So... cloud-based physics like the recent demo? Or 'just' a hosted persistent city? This is the kind of thing I wish they would elaborate on, but maybe the crammed showpiece presentation wasn't the right place.
Basically Phil Spencer said the XB one's USP is 'the power of the cloud.' There is potential for how MS cloud will improve games, I'd like to see how it can do for Halo 5, but for now da Cloud offers no tangible benefits to gamers who want the best quality multi-platform games.
their biggest mistake, and fail, is that they showed NOTHING for the 360. That is why I support Sony. They keep rolling out great games long after they move on to greener pastures, for those that are late adopters.
@ArgumentumAdPopulum I must admit that, ironically, those trolls are part of the reason why I'm so disappointed with their conference. I was expecting some huge bombshells today to get me excited to go out and buy an Xbone. Those guys always running their mouths about bombshells and Phil Spencer bringing all the games and stuff. Nobody said those games would be multi-plats! XD
Well you seem to be forgetting the fact that Sony fans literally eat sleep and breathe information about the Xbox 1 more vigorously than Xbox 1 fans do, and downplay every single thing xbox related harsher than a Rapist with Leprosy. You forget that if Microsoft had kept their cards close to the chest about Sunset overdrive, then people would be bitching either way. So if Sony fans aren't gonna budge or stop being assholes no matter WHAT circumstance occurs, then I'd say, MS is better off feeding info to the hungry Xbox fans at whatever pace they deem satisfactory or appropriate. Ya know, to entertain and excite the people who actually DO give a shit? *Captain-Picard-facepalm-imag e* SMH @yellowgerbil Yeah, same logic I used in my comment applies to you too... If they had focused on the 360, then you douchebags would say they focused "TOO MUCH ON LAST GEN!" Gimme a fucking break. If NOTHING will EVER satisfy you guys, then why waste your time even THINKING about the XB1? Go play with your Unicorn-resurrecting time machine and STFU for once if you guys can't see that "greatness awaits" for ALL gamers NOW MORE THAN EVER in the history of the world, then I'm at a loss for words.... and just because opinions and preference are factors to each of us as to what qualifies as "Greatness" doesn't mean anyone is of a lesser species or something... ** DOUBLE Captain-Picard-facepalm-image ** 2x the SMH
With the way he was hyping the conference I expected to be flooded with a ton of amazing exclusives and new IPs. I'm actually happy that Sony isn't hyping their conference to the high heavens which means that I'll probably won't be dissapointed with it. I'm expecting to see Uncharted, The Order and maybe a new IP. If Sony does that I'll be happy.
Gameplay from Uncharted 4, Driveclub, The Order:1886, Project Beast, Rockstar Announcement...New gameplay from The Last of Us:RM with release date. Batman:AK... and MAYBE The Last Guardian trailer/release date and i'll be content. It won't be hard to beat Microsoft's conference in my opinion. Not hard at all.
"With the way he was hyping the conference I expected to be flooded with a ton of amazing exclusives and new IPs." Yeah I expected to see something that Sony would have a tough time topping, just because MS is in a position with XB1 where they needed to win big, but I think the Sony folk are pretty relaxed about now.
@ MysticStrummer Completely agreed. Sony are likely grinning right now, because although it wasn't a bad conference, it was NOTHING like Phil or his minions were convincing people it would be. Absolutely nothing like that. It was underwhelming to say the least. The ball is now in Sony's court. They can either relax and shift things around and have a good E3 to match Microsoft's. OR they can bust out what they had as backup and go balls to the walls. Either way, with what Sony is rumoured to have, there's no way Microsoft is "winning" this E3. People are all eyes on Sony now. People will want to focus on Shawn Layden and see if he has the same charm and enthusiasm as Tretton. I think the general consensus is that it was an underwhelming conference for Microsoft, and if Sony even shows gameplay footage of Uncharted 4 (and it will blow minds) and The Order: 1886, it will steal ALL the attention away from Microsoft. But they also have Project Beast and the heavily rumoured The Last Guardian, amongst other things like Sony Bend's new open-world horror game, AAA indies like RiME, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture and Shadow of the Beast, as well as things we don't know. There was an article posted I think it was yesterday on here. "Sony has everything to lose going into E3". Not after Microsoft's conference, that's for sure. We're in for a treat I'm sure.
"With the way he was hyping the conference I expected to be flooded with a ton of amazing exclusives and new IPs" I agree completely, I was expecting way more than they showed, they made out they had too much to show and had to show stuff early because of it and all they did was show the stuff we all knew about. MS also said something about them doing something that was never done before at E3 which I have no clue what it was, they hyped the show to stupid high lvls and didnt deliver at all.
To be fair the xone is a hard sell especially with all the crap MS tried to pull, they have lost a lot of hearts and minds this gen and trying to sell a machine with weaker specs just aint going to cut it.
That is their biggest hurdle right there. Even with X1 at the same price as the PS4 now, most software sold on any system (maybe except Nintendo's systems) is by third party games. The media and gamers alike - through word of mouth will let it be known that the PS4 version is the one to get (often times better resolution, AA, maybe FPS, etc.) because it is simply easier to develop for and outright has better hardware under its cover. Now top that off with Sony's usual strong first party support, PS+ offering better incentives, stronger third party support and I feel like X1 needs to be at $350 to compete. A few months back, the X1 was being offered with Titanfall for free at some places for cheaper then $499. That still did not affect PS4 sales should speak volumes.
Agree, show was very underwhelming, they should have saved all the May announcements for the show today, would have had a far greater impact. And the Halo Masterchief collection is a great value, is it really a reason to own a bone? Sunset Overdrive is about the only game I'm excited for and I'm not buying a platform for 1 game.
There isn't much he could say to counter Geoff's point that isn't just lying (which would have been ripped apart on forums). Geoff, surprisingly, is right on point to ask this question. They showed a lot of good games but a lot of which is coming to the PS4 and could (if history is to go by) perform better on the PS4. Saying that I think Sony will do something similar
Lol, if you really think that there is no way you are a gamer.
You seem a little upset that I've said something you don't want to hear. The whole "your not a gamer" come back is silly, been done a shit load of times before and is quite an arrogant statement to make to be honest
dy35: the fact that those mere third party games excited you enough makes me wonder that you could be a smart phone gamer.
Is this gonna be your new thing? "If you don't love what Microsoft had/has on offer, you're not a gamer?" Phantom Dust and Scalebound were all that sorta interested me, and they were both CG trailers. The rest of what they showed was either multiplat, or just not that eye-catching to me. Does that mean I'm not a gamer?
Yet here he is; posting most days on gaming news site. Dunno about anyone else but I'm convinced.
"if you really think that there is no way you are a gamer." This kind of thing needs to stop. Telling someone they're not a gamer if they don't like the games you like is really ridiculous. It wasn't a terrible show, but MS really needed to do better. I don't expect Sony to blow everyone away either, but MS needed to at least try for that kind of impact if they wanted to get back in this game. The coolest thing I saw in that show was a multi plat. That doesn't sell me a system, especially when the game will most likely look at least marginally better on the competing platform.
@MysticStrummer "It wasn't a terrible show, but MS really needed to do better." I kinda feel the same way I did when I saw the Green Lantern movie. For hours, I tried to convince myself it was good. lol
I dont need convincing to buy one over another as it my intention to buy them both anyway. Just need to get the $$ to do so. Im a patient person. the games they showed (as well as what's already out) will be there when the time is right.
Many people thought this conference was really good. Of course you are entitled to your own opinion yet saying the conference was average at best isn't fact, it's opinion. Sunset Overdrive, Fable Legend, Crackdown 3, Scalebound, Phantom Dust, Forza Horizon 2, Halo 5, Project Spark, ORI. I think at this point if that doesn't make you want an Xbox then I don't know how they can convince some people and honestly some people won't be no matter what MS does or announce.
honestly... im buying an Xbox One eventually (more of a financially waiting period than anything) But I was hoping for Mech Assault or Crimson Skies... That would of sold the whole show for me... Other than that it was a solid great show for games and I loved the Halo announcement.
except that Forza Horizon 2 and Sunset Overdrive didn't even need to be there. They showed what they had shown before. A trailer for Forza and gameplay for SO had already been shown in the weeks prior to make room for...that same thing again. Also Scalebound, Phantom, Crackdown, and Halo all were CG trailers. A man doesn't get too excited for CG stuff after his experience with Dead Island and such that had great CG trailers. They just have no accountability because they can be totally not indicative of gameplay or tone for the actual game. A man is excited for Sunset Overdrive but that's it (Fable looked pretty meh to a man). He is interested in Scalebound but won't get too excited until gameplay (gameplay should be shown for new IP as a man hated when the Order and SO did this too)
I didn't say it wasn't good, just not as good as they've hype it out to be. He pretty much exaggerated all his big talk leading up to E3. Some games can convince people to buy an Xbox One Show a new Banjo, Conker 2, Perfect Dark 2, Alan Wake 2, Lost Odyssey 2 etc and it would of been better then multiplatform games.
@Fox If they continued to show new games it would be more CGI or games that aren't ready to be released for a while. MS already has a super packed line up of exclusives. I'm pretty sure its time we start to play some of these games that were promised last year. I agree the conference was over hyped. I'm just glad half of what MS said is coming out this year, exclusives of course. All the new ips were CGI is a bit of a downer but realistic these games are in early stages but we know those games are coming plus more. The third party stuff was the most heavy I've ever seen in a MS conference. The money hatting stuff is a bit upsetting. MS overall could of announce 1 or 2 more AAA's but Its great they're focusing on the holiday and taking it super serious with their exclusives.
"MS already has a super packed line up of exclusives. I'm pretty sure its time we start to play some of these games that were promised last year." You mean Titanfall? That was the only exclusive for the entire year. There's Plants vs. Zombies GW, but that's a timed exclusive, still, that's a game to play. Forza Horizon 2 is gonna be the next exclusive and it's releasing 6 months after Titanfall... There's a serious drought on the system, but I guess there's the launch titles. Problem is, people are tired of the launch titles or didn't like them in first place. There are great indies though, like Super Time Force and I hope the Xbox One gets more.
Microsoft had a good conference. I liked what I saw. Already have a PC and PS4, getting a X1 in Sep/Oct. As for hateful stupid fanboys... f*** them.
You are being very defensive. Nobody I've seen, even on "Sony4G" has said they had a bad conference. More people who are renowned for disliking Microsoft have admitted that they had a good conference. They had an "underwhelming" conference, sure. Based on the way it was being hyped up, it can be nothing short of underwhelming, but that doesn't mean it wasn't good. The balance of what they showed is what was unimpressive.
@DigitalRaptor "Nobody I've seen, even on "Sony4G" has said they had a bad conference. " Are you completely blind? As for hyped? Nobody hyped Microsoft's E3. They simply said they were presenting games on their conference, and they did exactly that. Who is being defensive... you or me? Now if you didn't like their games that's your choice. I liked Microsoft's games and I will probably like Sony's games on their conference. I play games, not consoles.
"Are you completely blind? As for hyped? Nobody hyped Microsoft's E3" You call someone else blind, yet you didnt see all the hype made for MS E3 conference, I can find about 10 articles from the last week about how good the MS E3 show will be and how it will steal the show and how Sony has to step up its game to even get close. I can only come to 3 conclusions #1 you are a fanboy in disguise or #2 you havent been on N4G for a few months #3 Taken over by complete denial.
@MRMagoo123 - Find me these 10 articles. I saw nothing to suggest MS was hyping up E3 beyond showing lots of games, which they did. If anything it was other people hyping it up, but that was happening on both sides. For example HipHopGamer said Sony would show something "Industry changing". They were both solid conferences and depending on which games you prefer you're gonna prefer one conference over the other. I never wanted a PS4 because I prefer the MS franchises like Halo, Gears, Forza etc and Sony's conference did nothing to make me wanna buy a PS4 either. So it works both ways. Everyone needs to just relax and celebrate the great games coming our way.
Agreed I will say this though. It was the best Microsoft conference we got in years! Games, games and more games! Next time though, a few more exclusives and a bit more variaty.
-Foxtrot I agree while their conference was all about games there weren't many that were that compelling. I have yet to buy an xbox one and may wit till around black friday to find some bundle deal this conference was very good but not great. But its a good start also people what do you want spencer to say? oh go out and buy a ps4? he runs xbox brand so of course he will say buy a xbox one good start 7.5-8/10 for xbox conference i hope they really take take of crackdown IP this time around, That universe has so much potential
All I really thought was good was the Halo collection, about time and it was a nice touch for all the Halo fans. Other than it felt like a multiplat conference. All their new exclusives look cartoony which I amn't into.
"Halo 5, Sunset Overdrive and a few others were the only decent things at their conference" ............I guess they forgot to say a good percentage of their games are coming this year, compared to sony where most of their good game are pushed back to next year and the unannounced games for the year after.
LOL, how are most of their games coming this year? The literally spelled out "This is showcase of games in our 2015 and beyond portfolio" before they even began announcing anything exclusive. Literally the only exclusives they have confirmed for release this Fall are Sunset Overdrive, Halo Collection and Forza. How in the hell do you wrap that up as "a good percentage of their games are coming this year"? Did you even watch the conference? It was 90% multiplats, 5% stuff we knew was coming(Halo and Forza), 3% something nobody is going to care about(Dead Rising 3 DLC), 2% stuff we've actually wanted (Crackdown and Phantom Dust) and only 1% new IP (Scalebound). Sounds to me like a decent conference that SEVERELY failed at meeting those loft expectations that good 'ole Phil hinted at. What happened to all those new IPs and unannounced titles that you Xbox fans were promised, because as far as I could tell they were pretty MIA. All-in-all, don't kid yourself into thinking that Xbox is having a breakout year on games when they so clearly aren't. Both PlayStation and Xbox have almost all of their games coming in 2015. Halo 5,Uncharted 4, GOW4(if there is one), Quantum Break, Project Beast, Last Guardian(probably farther away), GG new IP, Bend new IP, London new IP, The Order:1886, etc are all coming much later. Stop pretending like Xbox has all these WONDERFUL games and exclusives coming while PlayStation has nothing, when in reality it's a barren wasteland save for Halo, FH and SO. Both consoles are lacking in content, both are going to be relying on 3rd party games for the rest of this year and both will have a really great year when 2015 rolls around. P.S: Something nobody seems to be mentioning is a possible negative side-effect to having such large collection of Halo. They literally have SO much content and it's such a great value, it has started to dawn on me as to whether this is going to be a bad thing for Halo 5. Halo is going to be literally everywhere come this fall as you can expect Microsoft to market the $hit out of it. Is not quite possible that people are going to be burned out on Halo by the time the next iteration comes out? I know this might not apply to the hardcore but for casuals, this has got to be a concern. I mean, Halo 5 is launching less than a year after this collection comes out. How are people going to be itching to play that when they just had Halo up to their neck not even 10 months ago. Just my opinion....
literally ONE game was delayed to 2015...... The Order and that's it.....
zero kinect games, now we can say for sure - kinect shovelware is gone for good.
Foxtrot is the reason people hate gamers now a days. They always have more negative to say than positive. Get a new hobby!
I think you'll find I've been saying possitive and negative things I'm really getting sick of people like you who don't like something someone says so you try to say they are always negative, missing the positive things they've said. If you take a look around I'm not the only one saying this. Hell I didn't even say they had a bad conference, it just wasn't really that good as they made it out to be. It was pretty average...although it looked better since there last E3s have been pretty bad.
microsoft's press conference was better than sony's tv tv tv indie indie indie press conference. and that's not subjective. that's actually what happened. (pretty much the same thing that sony fans crucified the x1 for doing for the reveal)
Yeah that "1" TV show announcement and indies was all they had. Damn Sony, why couldn't they have shown a new Suda 51 game or an exclusive From Software game or at least something about Uncharted 4 instead of those crap indies? Lol.
Its always going to cone down to personal taste. I already own both because I NEED to play every game lol.
MS as a company is a mixed bag but if there is good games i will follow them. Original xbox in particular had a lot of great games that were exclusive, im hoping xbox one will be a return to xbox 1 lol.
Wish I had the time to play every game. :(
He underestimates the competition.
You can't have it both ways, Phil. You're removing Kinect to give 10% better performance, yet something that's barely been used by devs is still important yet it reduces the quality of games for it, but you take it away. what you're saying doesn't make sense, devs and people will pick a more even match in a MP game or a better performing xbox one game to kinect.
You can't convince anyone to buy something. People follow their hearts. You won't convince a PS gamer to buy an Xbone Over PS4, Phil.
I follow the games, I don't care about my heart lol.
"You can't convince anyone to buy something." Lol, then why does advertising even exist? And who says he's trying to convince playstation gamers? Im pretty sure hes aiming for gamers in general. I'll probably get both systems eventually.
Advertising and telling someone, ''Buy this because of this and that...'' are two different Things
No...it's not, that's exactly what advertising is. "Buy this because of this." Buy this car because it looks good and has amazing horsepower. Buy this game because of these features. Buy this console because it will get these games. Buy this brand of make-up because it does this and this over it's competitors. That is LITERALLY ADVERTISING! "People will follow their hearts..." I'm sorry, but how old are you? This is something I'd expect my 12 year old niece to say....
To truly convince what to buy depends on the heart and if their darkness that you can control( Tobi reference).
This was there chance. They needed to be better than average.
I agree. While I think they had a solid conference, and didn't talk about the things that damaged their brand (kinect and TV focus), more than solid was required. Sony was in a tough spot coming into E3 due to their outstanding performance last year, but MS kind of made it easier for them just now. Revealing something as simple as Fallout 4 or the return of a really big franchise can put Sony up for best conference. As for buying XBO over PS4, the conference didn't justify that anyone on the fence or from the PS camp should come over. There were only one or two notable exclusives that people weren't aware of.
Them revealing fallout 4 wouldnt mean crap if its multiplatform. Just like all the multiplats MS showed didnt add or detract from the overrall conference.
If you think that was average - I reckon you're not enjoying life as much as you could. As a gamer, that was like Christmas
This is N4G. All over the internet people loved the conference. But you know all these people are right 85 min of games is just ok. lol.
It was average, besides some games like Sunset Overdrive, and Halo 5. Scalebound looks good too. They showed mostly 3rd parties.
It's all opinions ofcourse :p But if I'm honest, it wansn't Christmas, at least not for me. I will say this : best microsoft E3 show in a long long time! Thing is, if it was christmas, they should have shown Battlefield, The Crew, Final Fantasy 15, Fallout 4 and way more exclusives I gues it's a bit of a curse with Microsoft. Either they have an exclusive for the XB1 and piss of PC gamers or they make it for XB1 and PC and piss of the XB1 crowd for not making it exclusive. That said, Sunset Overdrive looks like crazy fun. That game with the dragons and giant monsters might be cool (not fable, the other game) and Project Spark could be huge, but I'll play that on my pc. Thing is, people will never be satisfied. I personally am not even an Xbox gamer and I thought it was a pretty good show! Loads of games! Not too much kinect and absolutely nothing on social media and apps (in a positive way).