Forbes.com’s Jason Evangelho has a fascinating story on the disappointment that owners of AMD graphics cards are about to feel when they discover that Watch Dogs is largely unoptimized for their system.
A partially redacted data sheet highlighting the expected ray tracing features coming to RDNA 4 GPUs has been shared by well-known hardware information leaker @Kepler_L2. We expect the features to also be present in the hybrid RDNA 3 + RDNA 4 RT design coming to PS5 Pro when it launches (presumably) later this year or early next year. The leaked data points seem to confirm that advancing ray tracing technology is going to be a major focus of RDNA 4.
This will be the actual start to Ray Tracing on consoles, I'm really looking forward to seeing what PSSR is capable of as well.
I can't wait to see what games designed around this can do.
Don’t hope for anything major imo. RT remains a power consuming feature and I don’t think a pro version will make all that much difference. Higher frames (say 60fps) with RT features as they are now would be a big win if that would be the case. If RT features would be extended, games will probably stick at 30fps like they do now, is that worth a pro upgrade?
Zero first, second or major third party console exclusives have lacked a 60 fps mode on PlayStation, 30 fps is an xbox problem.
The GPU alone statistically offers 40% uplift, and with PSSR upscaling games designed around the console should have a significant performance uplift.
And my understanding is that RT has been largely decoupled from the CU's in RDNA 4 so the performance hit from RT should be much less than on current AMD GPUS. And regardless, the huge number of RT cores with the doubled RT intersect engine should be able to power through RT in a way that simply is not possible on current consoles.
With a rumored (according to the leaks) 4x performance jump in RT performance (and a 40% boost in overall GPU performance), in addition to the added AI upscaling frame generation tech, the actual RT performance increase should be significant.
@Frosty; 40% GPU boost you claim. With PS4 pro vs base at the time, that increase basicly doubled so 40% ain’t that big of a deal imo.
4x performance jump with RT (if true) sounds impressive but will we be able to play games in 60fps quality mode then? If not then pro is a waste as most gamers prefer 60fps performance over 30fps quality mode.
@sagapo
The PS4 Pro had the same GPU as the PS4, the PS5 Pro is switching from RNDA 2 to a mix of RDNA 3 and 4. The 40% increase is just the CU increase and doesn't include any uplift from the technological improvements AMD has done to RDNA which have been significat.
PS5 Pro is going to be a much bigger improvement than the PS4 Pro was, especially when you take into account the RT improvements..
@Einhander; assuming you are right, answer my question: will the pro do 60fps in quality (RT) modes? Because if not, why bother imo.
I really hope so, AMD has been pretty far from Nvidia's performance on Ray Tracing, so to see such a huge uplift, with greater performance and efficiency is a big win.
if astro bot is fully raytraced / 60fps on the pro model, we can start believing the hype
No games are fully raytraced as of now, even on PC. All of them utilize a combination of raytraced and rasterized graphics, with ray tracing being used for shadows, reflections, or global illumination in the best cases, but not for the entire rendering process.
There's gonna be quite a difference between ps5 and ps5 pro compared to ps4 and ps4 pro
agreed, PS4 Pro was only geared at pushing more pixels per frame (and HDR), not making those pixels look better in the process. PS4 Pro didn't offer much as far as increasing the actual quality of the rendering went.
Expecially when ps5 is around 10tflops and ps5 pro rumored to be 30tflops compared to ps4 at 1.84tflops and ps4 pro at 4.2tflops u could pretty much call it a ps6 near enough. Then ps5 pro could be using rdna 3 or say rdna 3.5 because it's rumoured to be using that newly assets of rdna 4 which benefit greatly on resolution and Raytracing even effect etc etc. What would be nice for sony greatly benefit is amd solution of the X3D in its Cpu on cpu bound games
As always:
I can't wait for the specs of the new consoles.
Wether it's NSW2, Xbox Next or PS6.
If Cerny stays the lead architect of the PS6's hardware (which is very likely I guess?), I am VERY excited for Sony's approach.
They've always done something unique noone else did.
And I expect the same for the PS6.
Edit: man, crazy. PS6 (six!) is already near! Time flies.
Ceeny won't be going anywhere I don't think. He and his team have produced back to back amazing consoles
What I want to know is what the price for pro will be since it's much more powerful compared to regular PS5
The NVIDIA RTX Remix tool is redefining the gaming industry and the modding community in the best way possible.
"NVIDIA's Generative AI-Powered Modding Tool Is A Gamechanger For The Industry"
True, the especially for all the industry that gets put out of work by it.
Have you ever used a self service checkout in a store? Should we ditch alarm clocks so that we can hire people to shoot peas at our bedroom windows to wake us up like they did in the 1800s?
Working at a grocery store as a checkout clerk used to be a respectable job that could support a family.
I try to avoid them at all costs, why should we do a cashiers/clerks job without any training and without being paid for it? Comparing people losing their jobs to A.I. to people from the 1800's shooting peas is hilarious, good try though.
Gues you never saw the fast food joints that had ai everything even cooking was done by robots.
Initial investigations will weigh the significance of any data theft.
— hack may have uncovered future product details
China/Russia plain and simple. Chinese are producing their own chips and to catch up they do what they have always done……steal it. When you can’t innovate, stealing is your best friend.
Nvidia aren't wrong by not going the sharable route when it comes to their tools/features..
Those GTX 770 benchmark numbers make me happy. Not because they're better than 290x numbers (shame on you Ubisoft!), but because it means I'll be able to run the game decently (gtx 770). Hopefully Ubisoft fixes this AMD issue, as I've got a few friends who use AMD cards, and I wanna play WD with them online without they're game getting screwed up all the time.
you get what you pay for i guess.
im glad that Nvidia is patching for games before release and is teaming up with so many devs with support for their cards and exclusive features, dont think i will change from NV any time soon.
It's one game....No need to over react, dice and other devs are still supporters of mantle so amd will be relevant going forward whether people want to believe or not.