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Is Microsoft Trying To Bamboozle Us?

Microsoft issues a new SKU, but is it really beneficial?

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Sitdown4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

Until the price is known, this is trying to make something out of nothing. Are you missing the part where a game is included with the original kinect? Perhaps there are cost saving measures this time. Or perhaps this is just typical marketing that gets you to save money by bundling instead of purchasing sperate. Microsoft is not giving the illusion of a price drop, we all know they are taking an item out which by default decreases the value.

user14394144038d ago

Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law.
I do not think Microsoft are trying to bamboozle anyone, I just think they are doing everything in their power to catch up to the PS4. I wish them luck and I hope that this is not the END for XBOX.

cleft54038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

The only thing wrong with the Xbox One, after all the of the revisions, was the price tag. A Xbox One at $399 with Kinect was a good value proposition. Without Kinect, then the question is why wouldn't you just buy the more powerful console for the same price? On top of that, Microsoft has constantly said that the Xbox One was designed around the Kinect. Now all of a sudden, we get the Kinectless Xbox One at $399.

The problem with this is that the original concept for the Xbox One was not designed without Kinect in mind. This means that resources and power was allocated to the Kinect. That is one of the reasons that the console is less powerful than the PS4. Now they are taking away a major feature that the Xbox One was designed around, a feature that gamers immediately told them they didn't want, and the end result is a weaker console with no real advantages.

If Microsoft wanted to actually give people what they want, than they would have dropped the price of the console to $399 with Kinect. $399 with Kinect is an amazing deal, without Kinect I am just left wondering why I would pay $399 for a weaker console? Sadly, Microsoft is in a bad situation because this is a decision that should have been made before the console ever released to market and certainly after the price of the PS4 was made public.

headblackman4038d ago

aleister crowley. really??? :-/ (he's the founder of the church of satan for those of you who don't know)

Eonjay4038d ago

@cleft5

Last generation it was revealed that Kinect cost $50 to produce and sold for $149

The price point is intended to cover the cost of manufacturing it, the cost of R&D, advertising and profit of course.

399 for Xbox One and Kinect would be a good price for consumers, but a disaster for Microsoft. At $399 a stand alone Xbox One is a questionable move for Microsoft given the current cost to produce the unit, but it is acceptable if they can attach a bunch of software (enter Halo).

The messaging of the original idea behind Xbox One is past the point of repair, but if they can bundle Kinect with a game at $149, there is a good chance that they can recover the R$D.

user14394144038d ago

@headblackman don't EVER get Crowley mixed up with Anton Lavey. Aleister Crowley had nothing to do satanism. He was a member of the Ordo Templi Orientis and founder of the Thelema religion and the law of Thelema is "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."

Microsoft are really stopping to new lows here sending trolls in here to try and make me out to be some satan worshipper.

LonDonE4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

@MrTehDiNGO #1.1
Bubble you down for using a satanic quote, "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law."
and if you didn't know where this saying originated then may god forgive u.
If u did, then god help u!

@headblackman
Yes you are right my friend, it is a sad world we live in today! Satanists everywhere, gays everywhere, paedophiles everywhere, war and death everywhere!

all i can say is keep strong in your deen, Mine is Islam, yours may be Christianity, whatever it is may u find peace on the day of judgement! ameen

And happy gaming!!! sorry everyone for bringing religion into the discussion.

BigStoat4038d ago

@LonDonE
"Yes you are right my friend, it is a sad world we live in today! Satanists everywhere, gays everywhere, paedophiles everywhere, war and death everywhere!"

Really dude? Gays are as bad as paedophiles and death? Man, get your priorities right.

MysticStrummer4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

"Do what thou wilt" isn't satanic.

If you're going to let a religion rule your life at least know what you're talking about.

LonDonE4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

@BigStoat and @MrTehDiNGO
My priorities are right, its your priorities which are all wrong! just like the majority of the world today.

And aliester crowley was a devil worshipper who practised black magick, he sacrificed and ate children, go watch his documentary or better yet read his biography!! also "do what thou wilt, was revealed to him by a demon spirit named Aiwass,who possessed crowleys wife while in Egypt in the great pyramid! this same demon helped crowley write the book of the law!

The very essence of do what thou wilt is against everything which has to do with god, and god fearing people, who are supposed to live by gods law and no just do whatever they want and desire.

Go watch this documentary! and stop believing wikipedia so easily! it is biased when it comes to illuminati/masons/satanists.
Alistair worshipped demon spirits! this is well known.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And watch this,

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I hope they will open your eyes if not then you have no hope.

Engaging in magick is devil worship, these spirits they invoke are demons.

@MrTehDiNGO
"Microsoft are really stopping to new lows here sending trolls in here to try and make me out to be some satan worshipper".

Dude i am no Microsoft dude, look at my profile pic/avatar, I OWN AND GAME ON ALL PLATFORMS! MY PIC PROVES THIS! unlike the majority of liars here on N4G who claim they own every platform!

I am not saying you are satanic, i am saying "Do what thou wilt" is a satanic statement! please watch the documentaries above!
"We are Legion we are many" is also another well documented satanic saying which Satan said and which allot of people use without realising where its from.

sAVAge_bEaST4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

" Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law."- http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Why bring Satanism into this?
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1. Motivation - something that causes a person to act

2. Confidence - faith or belief that one will act in a right, proper or effective way

3. Discipline - orderly conduct or pattern of behavior

4. Perseverance - continued effort to do or achieve something despite difficulties, failure, or opposition

6. Respect - high or special regard

7. Community - a unified body of individuals

8. Righteousness - acting in accord with moral law

9. Tolerance - sympathy for beliefs or practices differing from one's own

MRMagoo1234038d ago

@londone

"I am not saying you are satanic, i am saying "Do what thou wilt" is a satanic statement! please watch the documentaries above!
"We are Legion we are many" is also another well documented satanic saying which Satan said and which allot of people use without realising where its from" You do know god and satan are as real as the tooth fairy and the flying spaghetti monster right ? there for satan didnt say anything at all because he did and does not exist, you are a wacko.

tommygunzII4037d ago (Edited 4037d ago )

I don't think that "Do what thou wilt" is satanic in its self but it does sum up the current society we live in which is likely just as bad.

If I did what I wanted I would eradicate fat and lazy people, so pray this law never takes hold :)

jivah4037d ago

Why get all up and arms over a quote that may or may not be associated with satanism. A harmless quote at that. Regardless satanism actually doesn't worship satan or even have a god for that reason. If you ever did some research you would see that they are athiest or ithiest and dont believe in god or satan or lucifer heaven or hell .. none of it. Oh well(ignorance is bliss they say)

http://www.churchofsatan.co...

Im hoping microsoft reaaaallly come out of the slumber they are in right now. Even tho im more of a PC/PS4 guy im not close minded in the way that i know microsoft had a very important part into making gaming what it is now. Competition is needed. Unless they wanna get out of the industry and well ..........Dreamcast 2! I can only dream. Sigh

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URNightmare4038d ago

But they said before that Kinect as a stand alone would cost $150. This was back in November when trying to justify the $500 price tag.

greenlantern28144038d ago

Or more so really it should be 350$ without Kinect

Pogmathoin4038d ago

People here will find negative in world peace and prosperity for mankind....

liamn4038d ago

I think this is a stupid move by Microsoft to remove kinect from consoles.

solo45r4038d ago

I kind of agree with your comment. I think they should have price dropped the current SKU, and still added another SKU for people who don't like Kinect.

ziggurcat4038d ago

i'm pretty sure that's the situation anyway... two SKUs available for sale - one with kinect, one without.

and a price drop on the original SKU is inevitable.

D3ATH_DRIV3R_7774038d ago

I'm not a xbox one owner, but you are correct! the kinect is what made it
different and unique from the PS4, and now they remove it, it's not unique anymore. MS is so desperate to get more sold that they want it removed to reduce the price of the system to match it with their competitor. I to think that it's a dumb move they did!

jacobvogel4038d ago

I do believe Microsoft marketing did it wrong as you stated in the article. Best price drop for Kinect-less console is $349.99.

solo45r4038d ago

That is exactly what I thought the price should be. It helps undercut the PS4 value if they did it like that.

WeAreLegion4038d ago

Is it beneficial? Yes, it's beneficial.

WeAreLegion4038d ago

Pre-orders for the new XBO without Kinect are very high. The system will sell much better without Kinect. It is beneficial.

mhunterjr4038d ago

This is a pretty stupid article. Bundles are almost always a better value than buying items separately. That's kind of the point... It's not tricky marketing at all...

People that don't want kinect are saving fifty dollars by not purchasing something they don't want. People that do want kinect can save money upfront by getting the bundle. Everybody wins.

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Phil Spencer Teases 2026 As A "Really Special Year" For Xbox

2026 will mark the 25th anniversary of Xbox, and Phil Spencer has teased it as a "really special year" for the games division.

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TheEroica2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

You got downvotes by pathetic gamers for feeling hopeful about good games coming out next year. Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy? It is pretty neat to see people's world view blow up in front of them as they realize Microsoft has put themselves in a driver's seat that Sony hasn't been able to touch all generation.... What's even more pathetic is the same people downvoting you are the same people wishlisting Microsoft games on their ps5s 😂

P_Bomb2d ago

“Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy?”

My dude your post history shits on EVERYTHING. You never have a good thing to say about anything lol! 🤣

PanicMechanic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Getting ready for those GaaS reveals! Sony is a shadow of themselves this gen.”

You literally said this a couple of days ago. Start applying the clown make up, you hypocritical jester

derek2d ago

Yep we'll see, they have alot releasing next year.

RaidenBlack2d ago

NGL, next year might be one of the best years in gaming ... starting off with RE9 and GTA VI ...
and then all the good games that's been cooking
Pragmata, Sands of Time, Saros, Gears E-Day, 007 First Light, Blood of Dawnwalker,
Mortal Shell II, Onimusha, Marvel1943: Rise of Hydra
current-gen only Infinity Ward's CoD, Duskbloods
+ My guess: Wolverine, Exodus, Mudang, Crimson Desert, Clockwork etc ...
~ seems like it might get too stacked

1Victor2d ago

@rokos:”Hopefully “
I downvoted you not for been hopeful but because I have seen the same “NEXT YEAR WILL BE SPECIAL “ comment for the last 10+ and hasn’t seen anything special from Microsoft.
I hope next year will be the one that everyone been waiting for since the last 3 years of the Xbox 360, it have to be after over $80 billions spent on acquisitions.

Lightning772d ago

So the new excuse is they don't count because it's from the ABK now huh. I guess all those 3rd party games count even less because they don't own them. According to your always crappy logic.

InUrFoxHole1d 22h ago

Lol. You haven't seen anything special? Do you even game?

OtterX2d ago

Always with the "next year..."! 😂

neutralgamer19922d ago

I don't know they have delivered this year and even last year. And they have a lot more content in the pipeline right now than anyone else. We can't just keep hating on MS

Indiana Jones
South of midnight
Avowed
Flight simulator
Hell Blade 2
Minecraft update
Gears of war reloaded
Indian Jones:expansion
Gears E day
Clockwork revolution
Fable
Doom the dark ages
The outer worlds 2
Grounded 2
Call of duty

OtterX2d ago

How many of those titles were just buyouts of companies that were going about making their games anyways? *Throws cash - "Oh look what we made!"

dveio2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This list, that's been posted again, and again, and again in every single topic like this, contains almost nothing, literally almost nothing from Microsoft's own creational thoughtprocess.

It's a bunch of former 3rd party IPs.

Now even slowly returning to Playstation in some cases like Indiana, Hellblade, probably Starfield soon too, after they were made exclusively to Xbox on purpose.

Due to Microsoft's lack for own IP material except Halo & Forza. Which, the lack of, was the sole reason for all of it to happen in the first place anyway. Please don't pretend it wasn't.

And just look at all the games that come from Obsidian alone.

You really think Obsidian wasn't already working on Avowed and South of Midnight even without Microsoft buying Zenimax?

Microsoft delivered nothing but cheques.

OtterX2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@dveio THIS. Lol, this dude thinks Call of Duty wouldn't exist without Microsoft! smh 😂

neutralgamer19922d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Common narrative I see often — that Microsoft shouldn’t get credit for the games its studios release because they “just bought them.” But this viewpoint ignores key context and sets a double standard that other platform holders aren’t held to

No one is saying these games wouldn't exist at all without Microsoft. But let’s not pretend that having a trillion-dollar company backing a studio doesn’t make a massive difference. Obsidian never had AAA funding before the Xbox acquisition. Pillars of Eternity was crowdfunded, and their resources were always stretched thin. Now they’re working on Avowed, with proper support behind it.

Ninja Theory’s Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice was made by around 20 people, using borrowed equipment and doing mocap in a boardroom. It was a passion project held together by tape and willpower. Today, Hellblade II exists because they were given resources, time, and freedom — something many developers don’t get unless they’re owned by a company that believes in their vision.

ZeniMax (Bethesda’s parent company) was in real financial trouble before the Microsoft acquisition. Reports and insider accounts have pointed out how much they needed a cash infusion. And while some people want to write off Xbox’s ownership of Bethesda titles, they forget the alternative could have meant layoffs or even closures.

The same goes for Activision Blizzard. Would you really prefer the company to stay under Bobby Kotick, after all the documented workplace misconduct and toxic leadership issues? Say what you want about Microsoft, but their acquisition brought accountability and change to a company that desperately needed it.

At the same time, Xbox gets hated on for doing what every major company does. Sony bought Housemarque, Bluepoint, Insomniac — but no one says Spider-Man 2 “doesn’t count” because of that. Why does Xbox get treated differently for acquiring struggling or undervalued developers and giving them a chance to thrive?

And the idea that Xbox locks games away is outdated. They're pushing cross-platform releases, cloud gaming, Game Pass, and backward compatibility more than any other platform holder. They're not forcing all studios into live service. If anything, their upcoming lineup is less GAAS-heavy and more focused on narrative and creativity — Avowed, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Fable, Perfect Dark, Towerborne, and others show real variety.

Whether people like it or not, Xbox is now the biggest publisher in the industry and owns the most gaming IPs. But what matters more is how they treat their studios. Most of these teams were previously stuck making AA games with limited scope — now they’re getting the tools and support to aim higher.

So when people say “Microsoft didn’t make those games,” they’re missing the point. It’s not about who started the studio — it’s about who enabled them to do their best work. You don’t have to love Xbox to admit they’ve helped a lot of developers and are taking a player-first approach.

Instead of writing off everything they do, maybe try recognizing the good they’re doing for both devs and gamers. At the end of the day, we should want more studios to succeed — no matter who owns them

BeHunted2d ago

I'm surprised Clockwork Revolution (BioShock meets Dishonored) isn't getting more media attention. The game looks interesting and reminds me of the old RPG games.

anast2d ago

The only good game on that list is Flight sim. The rest are either average or will be average. It's not a good look for MS.

TheEroica2d ago

My god.... Look how many comments are upset about microsoft's successes... 😂 This may be my new favorite thread. Not one gamer saying thanks for all the goodness coming their way, just bitter anger and downvoting the very games they themselves will purchase throughout 2026.... Sony really worked you guys over this generation.... Condolences.

DivineHand1252d ago

@neutralgamer1992 You said what needed to be said.

I have heard for years from older gamers that fanboys are the biggest issue with any fanbase. They will defend or gloss over negative news as long as the correct logo is on the box and they bash the competing platform no matter how much good they are trying to bring.

Right now their advocacy for PlayStation is elevating that platform so high that Sony no longer believes they need to do anything to satisfy their loyal fanbase like they did in the PS4 days.

I just hope most of them will eventually start advocating for themselves and encourage others to do the same. No one should blindly support one platform because these companies do not care about anything other than profit.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Hunted

And first proper game done by the studio with proper AAA budget and saying it will be released when ready

Anast

I believe we went through this before that you are objectively wrong. Meta critic, user reviews, game sales. In Playstation top 10 best selling games were 5 from Microsoft studios

Otter

No this dude is saying so many other studios wouldn't be thriving without MS money and people would be getting abused physically and mentally with Bobby kotick and his side kicks

Also maybe look up how the original founder of Bethesda and zenimax was kicked out of his own company by his best friend lawyer. So that was always a shady place and had been struggling financially before MS paid a premium of almost 7 billion

Eroica

I use to be a die hard Playstation fan and now I only have a Pc. I see how these fans are so toxic. They just can't handle any positive news regarding Xbox. When the best selling games on playstation are Xbox titles. Look at Forza horizon being best seller and that's years old game by MS. I guess ms don't deserve credit for that success too since they are the only company in gaming making acquisitions

Forget the fact Sony paid 3.6 billion for bungie and MS 6.9 for zenimax. Which investment has turned out better

Destiny and marathon with a lot of controversy

While zenimax output is nothing short of amazing compared to what bungie has released

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Yeah it's tricky. "Xbox" has morphed to mean different things to different people.
Console, now Windows, GamePass, and the cross platform games. There's a mix of attitudes towards all those things individually, and maybe an overarching attitude towards MS. But can't argue that the game companies MS recently bought continue to flourish, and GamePass PC has been a great value over the last year.

InUrFoxHole1d 22h ago

@OtterX
You're the dude mad at your exes new guy. She's with someone else... get over it.

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Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They've had good output so far. So waiting for those games shouldn't be a problem.

Who cares if they're buy outs of companies or whatever excuse you want to make. They're games that are being distributed to other console. Play the games and enjoy it instead of fanboying or complaining.

ocelot072d ago

They going to be a he best and biggest publisher on Xbox, Playstation and PC next year. They not really said anything about Switch 2 though spite claiming to be big supporters.

quenomamen2d ago

If you call making one last Xbox before going full Sega, as Great. Then yea.

TheEroica2d ago

Doesn't feel like you're paying attention to what's happening.

RhinoGamer882d ago

It will be, his net work will hit 50 million and he plans to buy a new mansion in Cape Cod. Thanks everyone! #failup

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain14d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198113d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK12d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts12d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK12d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT16d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits15d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel115d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic15d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN15d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel114d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica15d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14915d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga14d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania15d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7715d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7715d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts15d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7715d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb15d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow15d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor15d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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