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Can ID@Xbox survive without its own store?

Indie devs give their verdict on whether ID@Xbox needs its own dedicated storefront.

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alexkoepp4057d ago (Edited 4057d ago )

It better have its own store, i don't what a bunch of crappy games hiding the stuff I actually care to look at. Better yet keep your indie games on phones and the PS4 where I don't have to look at them

This crap is like the American Idol of video games. These games aren't good enough to stand on their own, lets not give them a platform to get their 15 minutes of fame.

NovusTerminus4057d ago (Edited 4057d ago )

Transistor, Don't Starve, and Mine Craft are all indie games, all very good games.

There are allot of bad ones, I'll give you that. But the same can be said about AAA games. You have to sift through and find what's best.

ger23964057d ago

Good thing you don't work for Microsoft, developers Like bungie would Have never got a chance. Or do you?

punctualdork4057d ago

I feel like it would definitely help. People are aware of some more high-profile indie titles, but there are a lot of great little guys out there and it isn't easy find them currently while browsing.

Until they create a storefront and remove the parity clause, I'm going to assume Microsoft's Xbox division isn't really interested in helping indies.

mhunterjr4058d ago (Edited 4058d ago )

I think having a separate store would place a stigma around indie titles that they are lesser quality than games that show up in the normal store.
If all games show up as new releases on equal footing, I think the indie titles will see added exposure.

n4rc4057d ago

I agree.. I thought that was always an argument..

Indies getting the same exposure as AAA titles is huge for them.. Otherwise people would just ignore the indie store and never see them.

Volkama4057d ago

It's a delicate thing though. The wheat needs to be separated from the chaff, otherwise a typical user opens up that store and only sees chaff. Steam can feel like that sometimes.

But lock those indie titles into a seperate store and nobody will even visit, so the few indie games that do deserve attention will get none.

In a couple of years time we will know if either platform holder managed to get the balance right. It'll be interesting to see if our perspective aligns with the indie dev community's at that point.

mhunterjr4057d ago (Edited 4057d ago )

I think the wheat will organically be separated from the chaffe... The same way it is with games that aren't self published. There are a lot of published games that amount to 'chaffe', and the marketplace has no problem weeding them out. Same with the indies... The good ones will get high consumer reviews, get media coverage, end up in the front page and the "popular now" sections, and enjoy success... The bad ones will quickly become hard to find.

Volkama4057d ago

@mhunterjr Not sure it qualifies as "organic" when so much back-end work is required to make it happen, but yes.

That's the philosophy Microsoft are embracing and relying on this time around. Sony haven't been so clear on their view, but I rather suspect they have a revamp of their storefront in the works as we speak.

corvusmd4057d ago (Edited 4057d ago )

Having it's own store would be nice, I have no doubt that this will happen in one of the system updates. That's a relatively easy fix. Although I understand what some of the devs think about not wanting to be "segregated" and wanting the same exposure as TF-like games. So really I hope they do whatever Devs want...I just hope in the future when games are flowing the indie games don't just get lost in the mix. Side note: I wanna play Riptide, that looks fun.

Xbot12144057d ago

who cares about indies more AAA

AceBlazer134057d ago (Edited 4057d ago )

Yh because you know, having indies apparently means loss of AAA titles.

SuperWeeb4057d ago

Do none of you know what AAA means anymore?
AAA was meant to be a high quality game, best of the best. Following this logic it's entirely possible for indie games to be AAA (Journey, for example).

Now AAA only means high budget, high profile. This does not mean these games are necessarily good.
Falcom, for example, is a low budget, low profile game company... Selling 400k would be a dream come true to them. They hit a niche.
Yet they're older than Square, and their JRPGs (especially the Ys series) are significantly better than Square's from a gameplay and setting perspective.

According to your logic we shouldn't care about Falcom who make better games, because Square have a bigger budget.

Mikelarry4057d ago

You do know most of your favourite developers started as indies before they became high profile AAA developers. Also with the current state of AAA gaming who are scared of trying new formula because of the fear of failure Indies are the ones innovating and taking more risk on new ips.

Clown_Syndr0me4057d ago

I cant make my mind up here.
On one hand it be nice to see an indie only store, for organisation purposes and easy navigation.
But on the other hand Im not sure Id notice games on a separate store so much. Some Indie games deserve to be listed with the big games, but most do not.

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Xbox's big Killer Instinct revival gets a 10th-anniversary stream on November 22, 2023

Iron Galaxy is planning to celebrate the 10th-anniversary of Killer Instinct (2013) with upcoming gameplay changes.

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darthv72592d ago

this is one game i am surprised they have not done more with.

Michiel1989591d ago

same, the version on the snes was prob my fav fighter of all time. The xbox version was actually really good and has such a banger of a soundtrack. Mick Gordon never disappoints.

Obscure_Observer592d ago

Phil and Matt did an excellent job by bringing Iron Galaxy back to KI showing that franchise proper first party support after 10 years!

Now with IG back, we might get a new Killer Instinct 2 in a few years!

Make it happen, Matt!

LordoftheCritics592d ago

Oh this game.

It came free with the Netflix box.....I mean Xbox One.

darthv72591d ago (Edited 591d ago )

no it didnt... at least not the full version of the game with all rosters and cd soundtrack.

Crows90592d ago

Okay...this is a launch title from the Xbox one. How about instead of celebrating an anniversary you bring a new iteration....just a thought dummies.

darthv72591d ago

who knows... maybe that IS the plan with this anniversary

Have to tune in and see.

Crows90591d ago

Hope so. I still remember Xbox one launch. I was a huge Xbox supporter back then. I still firmly believe their lineup was better than PlayStations at launch.

I really enjoyed killer instinct, panzer, Ryder son of Rome and the rare collection.

Not sure if rare collection launched at the same time as the console but it felt close to it.

They just failed to deliver anything since then.

PS5 this time around had an i.pressive launch lineup. Exclusive current and crossgen titles throughout its first year.

Hopefully Xbox can deliver with their perfect dark and fable IP.

Lightning77591d ago

I don't wanna hear anything about not having anything new when ND is planning on launching TLOUS 2 remaster.

TriniOutsider592d ago

This game is gonna get buried with the likes of SF6, MK-1, and soon Tekken 8 all being out. Those are fighters that will need to be beaten.

Concertoine592d ago

KI has always had its own cult fanbase. Theyre just remastering the game which is nice because this was one of last gens best fighters tbh

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Lol another sub service? Are we seeing a trend here folks? Is this the next step after battlepasses?