Without The Kinect, The Xbox One Is Basically The PS4

It’s funny to think back about this time last year, when Microsoft held a hugely controversial press conference at E3 for its upcoming Xbox One, announcing a $499 price tag and remaining silent on the-then hot-button issue of used games. The press quickly gave the show to Sony in a hands-down decision after a triumphant showing that evening, and Microsoft found its Xbox One on the same shaky footing that carried it through a launch season that saw it trailing the PS4. Now, with Microsoft’s announcement of a Kinect-less Xbox One at $399, the console that everyone loved to hate last summer is basically gone.

[pwnsause_returns]

"Without The Kinect, The Xbox One Is Basically The PS4"

except for that Hardware difference in power....

[jaredhart]

and the PS4 has a better controller.

[darthv72]

If a 3ds without the 3d is now the 2ds...
does that make an xb1 without kinect an xb1/2?

[Notramagama]

HAHAHAHAHA, after play ghosts on both for hours... It's the same. Xb is better for shooters, ps is better for platformers and fighters. As it should be. Those are the games that built each console. Both are good for racing (slight but unneeded edge to Xb for thumb stick rumble).

I personally can't stand ds4, triggers hurt over time and thumb sticks are deteriorating on every one of my friends' ps4 controllers. And it feels worse for fighters than the ds3, but I can see how ppl like it.

[UnHoly_One]

Yeah seriously, it's all about personal preference. There is no "better controller".

I think the DS4 is the worst controller I've ever used (Yes, even worse that the previous champion, the DS3), but that's just my opinion.

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

"except for that Hardware difference in power...."

And also the Ps4's AAA exclusives on store shelves being barebones.

[Madderz]

@Notramagama

"Thumb stick rumble"

Wut?

[BitbyDeath]

And the Ps4 has better games.

[Notramagama]

@madderz

The thumbsticks have rumble the are directionally aimed.

and side note, x1 triggers are the best triggers Ive ever used. They feel amazing. RB and LB are a step back though

[Muerte2494]

Why do people think this changes things? You could get the Xbox One with Kinect and Titanfall for 399.99 last month.

[XiSasukeUchiha]

and Justified price tag the PS4 has!

[Thatguy-310]

It's basically just an xbox lol Their whole vision of the original xbone changed. I think it's great that they've been listening. If their E3 presentation shows promising titles I will buy myself one sooner rather than later.

[nicksetzer1]

Snapping apps, free ded servers for devs, all consoles a dev kit, etc. Not to mention different games lineup, ui, controller etc.

[MysticStrummer]

"except for that Hardware difference in power…."

…and PS+ is still a better value.

…and Sony has proven through multiple generations that they bring the games consistently all through the gen, instead of dropping support or changing focus.

…and PS4 has the more award winning devs working on it.

[S2Killinit]

Smartest comment i've seen all week.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Returns A few pixel power difference over the X1 but yeah power.

[MysticStrummer]

A few pixels was the multi plat difference last generation. This gen the differences have been bigger.

[Mystogan]

@MysticStrummer

No it isn't the gap this Gen is much much smaller.
You have to squint to see the difference.

I remember how horrible COD and GTA looked on the PS3 versions. Missing Textures and bugs galore. It was almost like you were looking at a different game.

[MysticStrummer]

@Mystogan - Last gen sites like Lens of Truth and Digital Foundry had to do side by side pixel counting comparisons to point out the differences. This gen, so far, you can see the difference when watching YouTube videos. The differences in resolution were smaller last gen than this gen. I don't know what you're looking at.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Mystic Sorry but its not.

MW2 http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

BF4 http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

The difference is bigger on PS3 and 360 than it is on PS4 and X1.

Clearly. There's is no Big huge difference this time sorry but there isn't. I have regular eyes no goggles and no I'm not blind delusional or anything you can see for yourself

Ghost: http://youtu.be/_pt_dkQK1LQ

I'm telling you there's no bigger gap at all. Its not I'm not seeing a bigger difference.

[MysticStrummer]

MW2 was 600p on both PS3 and 360, though 360 upscaled.

Ghosts was 1080p on PS4 and 720p on XB1.

Go ahead and pretend the differences aren't bigger now, but reality says you're wrong.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Exactly,

I mean honestly, MS could've justified 500 (almost) with Kinect in the box. Now that the Kinect is gone and the prices are the same, all they'll really be doing is shipping a less powerful console for the same price as ps4.

[cfc78]

LMAO,jaredhart you really can't be serious? a kinectless xb1 doesn't = a ps4 it = a kinectless xb1.

[jaredhart]

Did I write this story? No.

I submitted it.

[cfc78]

Why submit it? it's total bs (nothing personal)

[corvusmd]

This statement isn't quite true...it's got less powerful hardware, but more potential in other areas. ...And while I love some of the exclusives that I'll be getting on PS4, IMO XB1 has the better exclusive line up (however, the last point is simply a matter of opinion).

[Highlife]

"More potential in other areas" like xbox turn on oh wait can't do that anymore.

[Mystogan]

Cloud Compute.
Snap Mode.
OneGuide.
Dedicated Servers.
Better Controller.
HDMI Input.
Support for Windows 8 apps coming.

Also I'm pretty sure I still have my Kinect and I can still say Xbox On.

[Madderz]

@Mystogan

"Better controller in my opinion."

Fixed it for you ;)

[Highlife]

@mystogan
Less power
Older slower ram
Weaker multiplats
HDMI input oh wait my tv and receiver have those
Flip flopping
Worse controller
Cloud computing haven't seen it do anything yet.
Lower res
Phil Spencer I actually like him oh wait he is doing everything that Sony already does guess we already have Phil Spencer's at Sony.

Fixed

[Neonridr]

A Kinect-less Xbox One is exactly what it sounds like. It is also what so many people who were on the fence about getting an Xbox One wanted in the first place. Time to see if they meant what they said.

[ThanatosDMC]

I was hoping the price would be cheaper than the PS4. I mean, they did have Titanfall Bundle + another game for $399.99. I was hoping the price would be $299.99

[Neonridr]

no way should it be $100 cheaper. I would maybe give you $349 tops, but you are getting into Wii U range now, that's ridiculous.

[ThanatosDMC]

Less power than the PS4. Now, no more Kinect. $299.99 is decent price especially since i'd buy the console for Dead Rising 3 only.

[tamarkovia1]

Trouble is now I'm a ps4 convert and glad of it.

[DVS-Zev]

A uglier, bigger, less powerful PS4 with a bleak future.

[Neonridr]

not as bleak with a price cut.

[DVS-Zev]

It was the same price all last month across EU. + titanfall + kinect

It still sold terribly.I'm sure the price cut will help a little but not as much as some are touting.

[WeAreLegion]

Not to knock Microsoft's engineers or anything, but that's a little insulting.

[LAWSON72]

They are set apart by their exclusive software and improved functionality, services, and features compared to their predecessors

[ShAkKa]

No it's not.

[leemo19]

Its great MS finally listening to the gamers, but the xbone being the same now as ps4 not quite yet. Price may be the same but ps4 hardware still stronger. PS+ is still a better value than XBL. I can upgrade the hard-drive in the ps4, something you can't do without voiding the warranty on the xbone.

[polow got sol]

Well the ps4 doesn't have sunset overdrive or halo or gears or the best graphically console game in ryse so no the Xbox is far from being the ps4 its better

[Lowsnamebrand]

Everyday a new troll is born and soon he will have one bubble what a sad sad life...

Yep the xbone without kinect is essential a less powerful ps4

[MysticStrummer]

"...or the best graphically console game in ryse"

…and the Earth is flat and is the center of the universe.

[MegaDan]

Sunset Overdrive is basically a fusion of InFamous & Dead Rising, nothing new. Halo & GoW are both washed up & Ryse being the best graphical game is subjective. Nice try though.

[johndoe11211]

Infamous says hi.

[ger2396]

Even Microsoft feels it isn't better. Why do you think its getting a price cut.

[S2Killinit]

Didnt they already have the xbone with kinect and bundled WITH titanfall for 399.99 already? That didnt do them much, how is this different.

[ILLINOIS]

The author of this article Dave Thier needs to get a PS4. He really doesn't have a clue.

[KinjoTakemura]

Change the title to "Without the Kinect, the Xbox One is basicly an Xbox One with a maximum resolution of 900p.

[Shamma_Lammadingdong]

"Without The Kinect, The Xbox One Is Basically The PS4"

That's like saying without the spoilers, a VW Bug is just like a Porsche GT3 because they're both German cars.

[patrik23]

"Without The Kinect, The Xbox One Is Basically The PS4"

Call of Duty: Ghosts 720p on Xbox One, 1080p on PS4 http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

KONAMI CONFIRMS MGS GROUND ZEROES RUNS AT 1080P ON PS4, 720P ON XBOX ONE http://www.ign.com/articles...

[Skate-AK]

Eh I don't think it works like that.

[B1uBurneR]

You guys dont get it..its now the same as the ps4 in the sense that it's now a dumb systems. Take away auto sign in..all the voice commands.. gesture recognition it's a Ps4. My PS4 friend said best.. when I asked which system is he getting this Gen he replied I have to choose between being powerful or the ability to fly. ,

[JediDiah]

Without Halo it's basically crap.

[isthe]

even if they're slowly making progress, sony's had a pretty big lead for a while, I don't see how microsoft could catch up without sony eclipsing them again