Driveclub Pushes PS4 Visual Boundaries @ Rock-Solid 30FPS, Says Director

Paul Rustchynsky promises that Driveclub will push the boundaries of PS4 graphics with a locked, rock-solid 30FPS framerate.

[rarity]

I'm glad it holds a solid framerate.

[sobotz]

After delayed by 1 year still couldn't achieve their target's fps. And yesterday, they're announcing it like it was gonna be 60fps.

I'm not hating this, or anything, I just pissed off so many games got delayed this year.

[xHeavYx]

They didn't announce anything yesterday saying that the game would run at 60 fps, all they said is that's what they were trying to get at

[FITgamer]

It's not a sim, so it might not be bad. I mean Motorstorm was only 30 fps and it was awesome.

[scott182]

When things get hyped like this and delayed it never ends well and it never meets peoples expectations. Honestly, it will be a fun game no doubt, but it is too hyped and delayed too long.

[MysticStrummer]

"yesterday, they're announcing it like it was gonna be 60fps"

lol

Glad to hear it's a solid 30. Looks amazing. Any PS+ user that likes racing games will at least check this out, and I bet most will end up buying the full version sooner or later.

[NewMonday]

unfortunately this will be a deal breaker for many, it will stop it getting good reception.

IMOO a waste of time and money when Sony already have the biggest racing game in the world GT, Evolution should just turn to a backup studio for PD, helping them build tracks, cars and playtest.

[Eyeco]

@NewMonday

30FPS for a racer is huge bummer for me personally, I'm not sure if it's a deal breaker, but it's certainly put me on the fence with the game

I would rather Evolution be a Vita developer if anything , Polyphony Digital as well as SCEJS are said to make a comeback this generation so they'll be fine. But I agree we already have GT do we need another racing exclusive, do we need another shooter, if we have Uncharted (The Order) ?

[kaiserfranz]

When they announced "like it was gonna be 60fps" ? No such thing happened.

[Christopher]

They didn't announce it "like it was going to be 60fps". That was all journo built hype.

[NewMonday]

@Eyeco

a few things missing are top FPS(killzone not doing it), a WRPG like the Witcher/Dragon Age and a JRPG(something AAA, not nice but average like Wilde Arms). Sony also needs to reboot GOW

[AliTheSnake1]

It was either going to be 60fps with less impressive visuals. Or 30 fps with more impressive visuals. They chose the 30, they made the game so they know better. That is how they want to represent the game.

You will always see 30fps. No current nor next gen is going to change that. 30fps is considered good, it's what console players (the target audience) is used to . With new consoles, developers always want to push graphics, therefore framerate would go down to 30.

[Timesplitter14]

30 fps isn't a solid framerate. THis is 2014 and no game should go under 50-60fps.

Seriously I'm so disappointed with the current consoles I think I'm gonna skip them entirely and stick to my PC.

It's not even just the performance that's better on PC, the game philosophy is better too. It's more modern and progressive. My favorite games are DayZ, Kerbal Space Program and WarThunder. They're all games with a very open development process and a very active community. The games are supported continuously after release and the devs interact directly with the community for feedback and suggestions. SOE's H1Z1 stream yesterday was a great example of this. This is the future I want for games, not the old "hurr we're a big company and everything we do is top secret" mentality that console devs are still stuck in.

[MetaReapre]

As much as I would have loved this game to be 60 fps, I can't agree with every game being 60 fps. The next Gen systems out now do not have enough power as of yet (maybe when better drivers and such come out to better use the hardware) to have every game at 60 fps. And until then I will stick with pc for any game I would rather play in 60fps.

[Christopher]

H1Z1 is coming to PS4 as well...

[kaiserfranz]

2014 has nothing to do with framerate. Frame rate is purely a design decision.

They could always scale back graphics and reach 60FPS, but clearly it is not their design goal.

[AliTheSnake1]

@Timesplitter14 Framerates vs Graphics. It's a choice. A "design decision" .
They want to represent the game in 30fps but higher quality graphics.

See if it was running 60fps, the graphics would be of lower quality and you would do the same play and say the same crap, but this time blame the graphics and not the framerates.

You will always see 30fps. No current nor next gen is going to change that. 30fps is considered good, it's what console players (the target audience) is used to . With new consoles, developers always want to push graphics, therefore framerate would go down to 30.

[Eddie20101]

Forza who? what?

[HugoDrax]

Scaled back or not. FORZA 5 is 1080P / 60 FPS, and looks damn good, sounds amazing, and plays very well. You would know this if you played video games, and wasn't a fanboy.

[Eddie20101]

I've played more video games than you have probably ever seen, on all systems. You sound like the fanboy. Drive club looks great, much better than Forza's last gen graphics, hopefully the game play will match.

[Festano]

The game is beautiful, the graphics also sin to 30 framerate, maybe with a patch after the release of the lead at 60 framerate.

[I_am_Batman]

There is literally no way you can double the framerate with a patch on the same hardware.

[TheDevKit]

Not without 7 years of progressive rendering techniques; but by then, the developer isn't going to be inclined to come back and patch it up.

[starchild]

It's funny to me that people think this is possible. Doubling the framerate would literally require twice the performance from the hardware. You can't simply patch that in.

[kaiserfranz]

Yeah, it really doesn't happen. Let's hope 30FPS are truly "rock-solid" as he said though.

I think Motorstorm was 30FPS as well and I had a lot of fun with it!

[Fireseed]

Most likely not... if they're saying that they believe its pushing the PS4s visual boundaries there likely isn't much more those programmers can get out of it... ESPECIALLY not after a delay this long, if it was going to have 60... it would have been done during the delay.

[XtraTrstrL]

That'd be the most unrealistic unbelievably magical patch ever.

[Christopher]

That'll happen when DX12 doubles the power of the Xbox One.

[Gamer666]

Typically you don't double the frame rate with a patch afterwards.

[XiNarutoUzumaki]

We don't know what priorities games have. We just assume that the better the framerate, the better the experience. it technically is, but there are games that 60fps is not really needed if the gameplay is smooth enough. They can use the resources for something else...

If this was a simulator, then it must be 60FPS. Simulators simulates real life after all. Driveclub is an arcade racing, and so is NFS Rivals. The latter is really enjoyable and smooth, so the same could be expected from Driveclub. Only devs know what it is best for the game. if the director of this game said that 30FPS was the best thing for the game, then we have to believe.

[Kayant]

Also this --> http://i.imgur.com/iHWNT5A....

I get people are disappointed about the news but I don't see why it was overly unexpected giving what they have been saying they are aiming for from the beginning. And it being 30fps from the beginning.

If 60fps is a deal breaker for you in racing games then project cars is happy to feel that void. For people that like what DC is aiming to achieve they can deal with the comprise of the framerate. Also I doubt just dropping the resolution to 900p like some people as saying will get it to 60fps locked.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

If not 60 frames then rock solid 30 frames is what I been saying all along.

[Pandamobile]

30 FPS is a technical limitation of the hardware, not a design choice.

[Studio-YaMi]

Exactly,they either sacrifice some of their visuals for the sake of 60fps or just lock it to 30fps with most of the visuals and game design intact,they chose the latter.

[Eyeco]

If it's an "arcade racer" then it has even more reason to run at 60FPS, Arcade= fast twitch based game gameplay, what serves that better than 60FPS ?

This game is 30FPS because the developer would rather the game look good than play good end of. Like all console developers, end of, there really is no other reason why most games don't run in 60FPS besides to compensate for graphics/resolution.

This isn't actually a major problem for me, but it's the level of damage control I've seen from the fanbase, because after the whole resolution/framerate gate you and me both know if this was an X1 exclusive it would have had it's anus ripped out and served back to it on a cold dish

[markyboy2181]

graphical boudaries for year 1.....driveclub 2 will look amazingly better in 2-3 years

[kaiserfranz]

Not sure why you got all those disagrees, but it seems a safe bet that their next game will look a lot better.

[chrissx]

1 word to describe this game : Beautiful

[OwnageDC650]

Day 1 buy!

[Zefros]

Don't like these type of games, but i might just buy this, looks fun.

[xHeavYx]

You can always try the PS+ edition before buying it

[Zefros]

true =) wow disagrees because i don't like racing games... seriously many sony fanboys here, and thats coming from a guy who just owns a ps4. psn: zefros420

[MysticStrummer]

That's the beauty of the PS+ edition. Even people who don't like racing might try it out and like it.

[josephayal]

Love it, Racing games are way more fun than those Sim games

[NaAsAr]

i hope rock solid means never a dip under 30fps and no higher that 30fps.....

not 30fps most of the time with dips to 27fps or highs of 37fps or 40fps.

[badz149]

I think what it really means is they were shooting for 60 but can't achieve it and fell short like 45 or something like KZSF and Infamous SS and then decided to lock it at 30 which defime the term "rock solid" like they said as it won't be hard to sustain 30 if the game is actually capable of 45.

I mentioned KZ and Infamous SS because they have a similarity with Driveclub as in they all uave stunning graphics! And looks like they sacrificed 60fps for a looker. Although a bit disappointed, I think I can accept that as NFS Rivals has already proven that rock solid 30fps is fine too.

[tigertron]

Let's hope they use the time between now and October to make it 60fps.

[OwnageDC650]

Don't think so. They are pushing for insane graphics. If that means a SMOOTH 30fps @1080p instead of 60fps and weaker gfx, I'm all for it.

[jcnba28]

It's a racing game, it's should be 60fps no question.

[Concertoine]

Id prefer it at 60 fps and a lower resolution. I'd like to think most people would too. Anyone who thinks 30fps is worth it for 1080p is nuts.

[AutoCad]

30 fps?
Um ok

[DigitalRaptor]

#Dealwithit

[AutoCad]

this is not twitter.

[choujij]

Not gonna lie, this game looks freaking gorgeous.

[RebelWAC]

This doesn't come as a surprise if you followed the games development process. It looks amazing.

The only bummer is the release date :-(

[darksky]

The detail these guys are aiming for will go unnoticed by most. Who is actually going to care if the distant mountains have high polygons or the clouds are real when they are racing at 100+ mph?

60 fps would have made a big difference in the feel of the game. I've played NFS Rivals on PC at 30 fps and 60fps after the patch and can honestly say it is a totally better game at 60fps.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

but the people at the top of this thread said you couldnt patch in 60fps. /s

[darksky]

With NFS on PC the devs locked it to 30fps to keep parity with the console versions. After complaints they patched it to lock it at 60fps since a decent pc can easily handle a higher framerate.

Driveclub most likely can handle something like 40-50fps but not quite 60fps hence why they locked it at 30fps.
Too bad the devs are more interested in detailed trees and grass in a bleeding racing game..

[ThatOneGuyThere]

it was locked at 30 because it was a rushed port from console to PC.

[Christopher]

@ThatOneGuyThere: Not on the console. They'll be maxing it out w/30 fps. If this was going to PC, that would be a different story.

[Aurenar]

Another game visually impressive but far from 60fps. For now "next-gen" just for graphics :(

[LexHazard79]

Honestly, I didnt need DriveClub to push the PS4 visuals this early. If DriveClub looks better than Forza 5 and runs at 60fps I would have been happy with that. With the delay there is no excuse not to have this @60fps and still looking good!

[badz149]

The game is delayed, true, but it's still the same PS4 as before. Taking 30fps to 60fps while maintaining the same graphical settings requires massive hardware muscle to pull and no magical coding can do anything about it even given all the time in the world.

I have no doubt they were targetting 60fps but with the setting thry have, 60 might be too ambitious. It was either turn down the graphic a notch and get 60fps or sacrifice 60fps for the universally acceptable and playable 30fps but the game looks gorgeous. They went with the later and I think graphically, I don't think any of us is in the place of complaining. At least from the trailer, this is a stunning looking game.

[LexHazard79]

Dude dont get me wrong. The game looks amazing. But weve been playing 60fps racers for awhile now. I just assumed 60fps was race game standard. Not to mention all the crap the fanboys were spewing about Forza being 60fps but had to sacrifice some things. Now heres DriveClub giving you everything Forza didnt yet only at 30fps. Im still gonna enjoy this game for sure, just felt a lil disappointed with the 30fps. And I know im not the only one.

[jcnba28]

A racing game running at only 30fps is a joke.

[OldDude]

I agree, any racing or fighting game that runs at less than 60fps is a laugh. Sony seems to be so bent on 1080p so they can rag on MS that they forget that game-play is king. Cut back on the visuals slightly and up the frame-rate. What a joke.

[DLConspiracy]

They made that bed for themselves so they now have to lay in it. I never sacrifice frames on my PC.

[sin7279]

your comment is a joke!

[brich233]

Not really, have you played forza Horizon? It was locked at a solid 30fps and was really smooth.

[Gamer666]

Really. A comparison of Forza Horizon that was delivered on 2005 hardware with a game on 2013 hardware that has bragged and over bragged about 1080p and 60 FPS for the past six months?

PS: I will enjoy DriveClub for what it is and am accepting of 30 FPS (I have stated many times there is nothing wrong with 30 FPS).

But, Sony should stop falsely bragging about its technological superiority. Forza 5 shipped at 1080p and 60 FPS on an supposedly far inferior console... Reality check. These consoles are not as technologically as far apart as Sony trumpets in the media otherwise they would've had the graphical fidelity and 60 FPS.

[jegheist2014]

game running at 30 fps isn ot joke i rather have game now they polished game further now wait and devs might make patch within year launch of 60 fps.

they will probly succeed at doing so within year of it launching am i upset its not 60 yes am i upset that they delayed it yes.

but gamel ooks more polished now so once game is released devs still tinker with it go for 60 fps at later date without casuing instability from launch right out door

[TheUltimateGamer]

I'm going to have to try this one out before I commit to buying it. I don't know if I'm down with 30FPS racing... Sounds painful. It's a beautiful game otherwise.

[D3ATH_DRIV3R_777]

This game looks amazing! yeah, it's not 60 fps, but it's not the end of the world as most ppl think it is. So does that mean i'm not gonna get because it's not 60 fps? no! why? because i'm not worried about graphics as the next person is. What i'm interested in, is how the game will play! from how good the A.I. is, to how the game feels. That's what a game suppose to be about! you can have your pretty graphics all you want, but if the gameplay sucks, then what's left to talk about? ummm, the game looks great? gimme a break! please ppl grow up! can't wait to try this out the PS+ version.

Oh damn! the disagree watch, just went to a disagree warning!

[TitanUp]

you peeps saying you arent buying or are on the fence at least you get to try the ps plus version.

im buying the full game.

[plmkoh]

All these people rapping on about frames clearly aren't big fans of serious racing games. As a car sim player I can assure you resolution is king, you will thank the extra pixels when they reveal to you the next corner in that split second.

Besides the gameplay style in here runs fine in 30fps, it's a very forgiving arcade game. Even myself touching the PS4 and this game for the first time back in Tokyo Game Show 2013 I was able to get a no.1 time trial time and shocking the booth attendant. And this comes from someone who plays Sim racing games in 60fps adjusting to the 30fps here.

Stop being couch analysts, and wait to play the game, you will only look silly when October 8th comes.

[stubbed_out]

30 First Person Shooters...MENTAL!

[allgamespc2012]

ya cause making a racing game look amazing is so hard to do. please. racing games are actually the easiest way to showcase your graphics engine.

[DLConspiracy]

When adjusting my GPU for optimization on my PC. You try to not sacrifice the frames. Its a balance. I am sure third person view will be fine but first person cockpit might lack a little.

[heisenberguk]

They should at least try for 40/50fps locked! Why 30?

[Pandamobile]

Screen refresh rates are usually multiples of 30. Having a game locked at 45 FPS would be hard to vsync and lead to laggy controls.

[JackVagina]

people still don't understand framerate and graphical priority's/trade offs

[jlo]

Honestly a disgrace, the only positive out of this is watching fanboys who only own one system squirm and make excuses.

[ghostface9]

delayed for a year and can still only hit 30 fps now thats next gen lol

[Dynasty2021]

A year's delay, maxing out the system, and only 30 FPS.

...reaaaaaaaaaaly hard not to laugh at that.

"next gen", yeah right. I'll be on my PC.

[Dinkleberg101]

I was really hyped for it befor the delay ): im still getting it tho. Looks promising!

[elhebbo16]

lol, "rock-solid 30fps" like thats a feat to be proud of.

[Skankinruby]

It looks gorgeous no doubt, most people whining about fps wouldn't be able to tell a side by side difference. I just hope its more of an arcade racer like they did with motorstorm, complex racers like gran turismo or forza just end up boring me after about 2 hours

[SoulSercher620]

So it's okay for Forza Horizon to be at 30fps but when it comes to Driveclub it's terrible?

Xbox fanboys reaching with this one.

[yarbie1000]

Forza Horizon is on Xbox 360. You failed to mention the Forza game on the Xbox One.

[SoulSercher620]

It still doesn't change the fact that's it's a racer and if that game can get away with being 30fps then Driveclub should as well.

[jars23]

Driveclub was going somewhere special.
I've been trying to play into their philosophy and appreciate what advancements they're trying to do with the graphics to justify staying at 30fps.
Sadly, with this latest trailer it seems they removed everything that made Driveclub special.
Contrary to their earlier design philosophy of gritty photorealism through their much touted "de-saturation" techniques, they're now trying to make Driveclub a clone of Forza 5 with stylized shading and striking colorful visuals. I don't want a Forza 5 at 30fps. I want a GT7 at 60fps all throughout even during replays. I guess it's hello GT7 then.

[Flames76]

When you say Visual Boundaries do you mean hoaw bad a next gen racer can look?Sorry but from what ive seen the gamplay doesnt come close to Forza 5.With that said the CGI scenes look great

[larrysdirtydrawss]

HugoDrax + 2h ago

Scaled back or not. FORZA 5 is 1080P / 60 FPS, and looks damn good, sounds amazing, and plays very well. You would know this if you played video games, and wasn't a fanboy.

you mean scaled backed a lot.... plus you didn't mention the most important part,forza is a sim,not arcade racing.. dc is arcade much like the motorstorm games that played at 30fps