Is Sony Winning the Console War?

"Sony has recently announced that they have sold seven million PS4s since its release five months ago. They have beaten their sales expectations of five million units. Meanwhile Sony’s competition, which includes Microsoft and Nintendo, has had mixed results"

[FrigidDARKNESS]

It doesn't have a problem. Xbox one is killing it with 5 million sold in 13 territories vs 7 million in 50 plus territories do the math. If both consoles were in 50 plus territories the story would be different.

[Insomnia_84]

LOL

[Infamous298]

@FrigidDARKNESS Dont count on it

[gaffyh]

@Frigid - People also said that MS would dominate in the US, even with the $100 difference. Fact is, TitanFall was the biggest game for the Xbox One in the near future. And it still didn't push them past the PS4 in their home territory for the month.

They need to remove Kinect, and cut the price. I've said it since they announced the Xbox One, and I am 99% sure it WILL happen. Then people will start buying.

[NewMonday]

5 million "distributed", not sold yet

based on the last confirmed sell-thru the number is 4 million

by the end of 2013 Sony reported about 4 million of sales and MS reported about 3 million of sales, but in the last 3 months the gap grew bigger by another 2 million

that means a rate of an extra 670k a month, and now that Titanfall is out of the way the rate will be even bigger and by the end of 2014 the PS4 could be ahead of the XB1 by 10 million units.

[miyamoto]

PS4 is winning the console war M$ brought upon themselves. LOL!
No matter how anyone will spin it Xbox One is a miserable mess. They can't even remove Kinect even if they want to in desperation. They just can't. Kinect is tied by contract to M$ partners that I will not mention if they remove it they will be violating millions of dollars in contracts.

[aceitman]

@ FrigidDARKNESS here read this this will clear up what u think is sold customers instead of retail, now after u read this from a xbox website u will see its 5 mil sold to retail meaning to stores (on store shelfs not to homes ) http://news.xbox.com/2014/0...

[MysticStrummer]

I can pretty much guarantee that even if he looks at that link and knows it's true Frigid will keep saying the same thing anyway. No one really believes MS can win worldwide even if all territories had both consoles, but people like him keep saying it.

OT - Of course it is. It's winning WW as expected, and in the biggest market which MS won easily last gen.

[OllieBoy]

Even MS would laugh at your delusions.

[amiga-man]

You can only feel sorry for people like frigid clinging to anything that the might explain xones poor showing, choosing to ignore the fact it has weaker specs for more money launched with the DRM shambles and forced kinect that isn't wanted by many.

For M$ to lose America is a huge indication of how the tide has turned but it's easier for him to ignore the truth lol

edit: randomass171

If frigid prefers the xone fine it makes no difference to me, but to try and defend it with the sort of delusional arguments he makes is frankly ridiculous and why pick on me pretty much everyone realises how stupid his argument is even you.

[randomass171]

I only feel sorry for him that people feel the need to make fun of him for praising his preferred system. PS4 is going to be my pick between the two, but Xbox One isn't really doing poorly and it has no DRM features anymore, so that's not really a factor at this point other than that it had a bad launch as a result.

[randomass171]

I made the same mistake the other day. That 5 million is shipped, not sold. Good shipping numbers, but not great when considering that PS4 has 7 million in the bag AND they are dealing with supply and demand issues.

[Xdone]

Go home frigid, you are drunk... As usual.

[captain_slow82]

Upto now the only thing MS have been "killing" is the Xbox brand lol

[Charybdis]

Doesn't matter how you look at it at the moment ps4 is winning in sales even if xb1 was in 50 plus territories.

Don't get me wrong Microsoft is doing fine in software sales, even though the large sales gap between the ps4 and xb1 hardware they somehow seem to manage to sell a decent amount of software compared to its competitors.

[Revolver_X_]

Your logic frightens me

[hkgamer]

i dont think so, I think MS played it too safe. Sony took big risks and manufactured an amazing amount of consoles therefore was able to supply to so may countries.

[ZombieDust]

I think it is quite the opposite my friend.

[Rimgal]

http://fireden.net/4chan/im...

[Magicite]

war is won!

[greenlantern2814]

You do know if you subtract all the sales from every territory that PS4 is in and XB1 isn't the PS4 is still ahead. And when are they launching in these other territories later this year, next year, never who knows but I guess if you can add in all the imaginary sales xb1 might get sony can add in all the sales they might have if the supply was equaling the demand

[Magnes]

@frigid Again 5 million shipped not sold MS said it themselves. Sony's 7 million sold are all in the hands of customers. MS 5 million shipped includes a lot still on store shelves. Do we really have to go through this every time.

[Eddie20101]

@FrigidDIMMNESS

The PS4 is ahead in sales in all 13 countries that the Xbox One was released in.

The story would be pretty much same even if Microsoft released in the same countries because the majority of the lead would still come from the same thirteen countries they both are available in.

THe PS4 is nearly 250 thousand ahead of the Xbox One in the U.S. alone. PS4 sales in the same Eurpean countries that Xbox One was released in are nearly double the Xbox One. Even in the UK and Australia the PS4 has a significant lead over Xbox One.

PS4 = 7 million sold through to consumers(Sony official anouncement). PS4 's sold to retail number is probably 7.5 to 8 million units.

Xbox One = 5.2 sold to retail( Microsoft official anouncement). They haven't given an official number for sold to consumers.

[medman]

@frigiddarkness sucks from Microsoft's teet...you can hardly blame the poor slob for being in a state of delirium. That is what comes from the monumental arse whipping Sony is laying on Microsoft. The whipping is so colossal, even the xbot only kiddies are feeling it in the genitals.

[DoesUs]

Poor Frigid, your nerves must be shot to pieces these past few months as everything i told you would happen, is playing out in front of your very eyes. Barely over 4m sold to consumers, Titanfall not being the system seller you proclaimed, multi plat games coming up short on XB1, and now multi plat cancellations.

Chin up though, just another 7 years to go before the XB2 lands.

[NeoTribe]

Have you tried asking yourself why ms havnt released in the other areas but sony has? Have you looked at the past sales of those territories? Did you know ms didnt release in those areas because they knew it would be dead on arrival? Ofcourse you didnt. Cheers.

[iplay1up2]

I have one thing to say to you...XBOXOFF. LOL.

I have no interest in XBOX this time around. I do not like the Kinect, the tech still sucks Netflix proved that to me.

PS4 has more power and more 1st party games. It also has a better price point. XBOX has already gone down to $449 at Walmart WITH Titan download included. I doubt Microsoft thinks Xbox is doing that well to drop price and include a game 6 months out.

I have to be honest and say I am playing Wii U more than PS4 still. Its all about the games.

[randomass171]

I would certainly say so.

[mochachino]

So far yes and MS is eating humble pie. MS thought Sony was done this gen too.

http://static.gamespot.com/...

[randomass171]

That is the funniest, most unsettling thing I've ever witnessed.

[ShowGun901]

THAT IS AWESOME!!!

kudos lol

[GamersHeaven]

7 mil vs 4 million sold to consumers you tell me.

[No_Limit]

Yes and I don't care. The Wii won the console war last generation but it seems like no one cares but 5 months into the new generation, and we have 50 articles daily talking about how the PS4 is winning the war? LOL

[RiPPn]

The Wii won casuals and that's why no one cares. Sony is winning the core and that's all that matters. Apples and Oranges my friend.

[HeWhoWalks]

Aren't you someone that claims no sides? Posts like these contradict that.

To the point - right now, the PS4 IS winning this generation. Capitalizing "LOL" doesn't change that.

[No_Limit]

@HeWhoWalks,

"Aren't you someone that claims no sides? Posts like these contradict that."

How is that contradicting? I own both and I can care less who is winning, what is so contradicting about my statement that state "I don't care"?

If I were to say "Yes, PS4 is winning, poor xb1 owners" then that is contradicting to someone that claims no sides! See the difference. lol

@ eWhoWalks ,

Dude, stop trolling me, if you don't get what I am saying and can't stand the fact that I love all my systems, then stop replying to my comments and go play some games or something. lol

[HeWhoWalks]

Simple - for a guy who claims no allegiances (or as you love to put it, "here to support all these companies"), you always post something against one specific tier of the market. That would be contradictory.

And again, posting "lol" doesn't change anything. If nothing else, it is shows a serious argument weakness.

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

Of course you don't care undercover Xbox fanboy. And the Wii only sold well because all the old people and milfs wanted one to "exercise" and shit like that. Most of those casuals that bought the Wii probably only enjoyed it for a year. But M$ still finishes in last past, last generation. They have never one a console war and probably never will, their games don't really appeal to no one, but us Americans and Europeans.

[skydragoonity]

Sony has won

[Hicken]

Yes.

Whoever has the most sales is winning. Sony has the most sales, so the PS4 is winning. It's really easy to understand.

Guess it's not as easy to accept for some, though...

[maniacmayhem]

lol, sales matter now that the PS4 is winning.

Remember when you didn't care about sales during PS3's troubles. Or how you went on a rampage and told everyone to wait a year when the Vita was concerned.

[Hicken]

No, I don't remember not caring about the sales of the PS3. I remember talking about how the PS3 was constantly outselling the 360 every year, and how it was highly likely that the PS3 was capable of taking the lead before it was done selling.

What does the Vita have to do with anything? How is it or anything I said in relation to it relevant here?

Oh, it's not? Just another of your crap attempts at discrediting a comment I made because you have nothing relevant to say?

Hell, that's your whole comment: off topic BS everybody can see through, and yet which will never be bothered with by any mod.

Tell me: how many irrelevant comments do you make in a week that get overlooked? Seems like only ever one or two out of a half dozen or so. And despite them typically being critical of Sony without relation to whatever the subject at hand happens to be, nobody ever bubbles you down. That seems odd, for a so called Sony fanboy site.

How does that work?

[HappyWithOneBubble]

http://bobcesca.thedailyban...

[Rimgal]

No, the ouya is. /s

[hkgamer]

what counts more is who made more money. Well to the company that is anyway. Sony sold 20.5m software, MS sold less than 15m(xbone attach rate 2.90).

Xbone higher RRP, definitely earning more per console than Sony.

I think they may be even atm.

[mkis007]

You forgot to subtract the free games and price cuts that put them in the red...it was 20$ per console at 500$ well at 450 what is it? with a free game what is it? no longer can use that "logic" of who is making the most money, because now Sony is :)

[ShowGun901]

see, i care how many consoles are sold for each, because that will affect dev support, and exclusives. what i DONT care about is if they are even or not in regards to PROFIT! of course i'd like game companies to profit, cause then they'll stick around, but personally i couldn't care less about if they eat a few $$$ for each console. if anything, thats good for the consumer, indicates less of a mark-up.

A. fanboy "logic": I'll support X cause the company is PROFITABLE!

B. Regular consumer logic: I'll support X because the product is good, or its a good value, or because of the companies green initivies, or WHATEVER!

im in group B.

[hkgamer]

more profit means more money to throw at devs or publishers.

obviously more complicated than that but that's a point you may have not considered.

anyway i dont support companies because they are profitable. who the hell does that?

i am a sony fanboy though and have invested a chunk of cash in them

[jay2]

By what? 2mill?

[Rideck]

Lulz PS4 fanboys are certainly easy to get wet when you slap them with sale figures. Let the games talk girls.

[HeWhoWalks]

Apparently, the games ARE talking, since the PS4 has a 2.5+ million lead.

[just-joe]

Yeah with games like Infamous and......

[HeWhoWalks]

@ just-joe: If I have to point it out for you, you're probably not the best person to discuss it with.

[SpinalRemains138]

Robot COD is already played out.

PS just has the better games.

[Reeze]

If a console is selling the most, it is winning. End of story.

"But it's not as fun..."

That doesn't change the fact that it's winning.

As of now, the PS4 is winning.

[pornflakes]

Well, Sony needs just more games, better exclusives.. as for now there arent ANY BLOCKBUSTERS announced.

Deep Down is a free to play game only announced in japan right now.

Planetside 2 is already playable on PC, no attension for this game.

The Fanboys aure are talking about the next uncharted/ Last Guardian and so on and so on.. but nothing confirmed yet while MS has some HUGE titels coming this year.

With Fable Legends, Halo 5, Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive MS hat the best games in 2014 comming with more blockbusters with their investment of 1 Billion DOllards for the next year.

Sony has nearly no money... it was in need for them to offer the PS4 for 399 USD to reach huge sales in the first months to get the TRUST back from their shareholders so they will be able for the future to invest more money into their 1st party studios.

[mkis007]

Literaly every game you mentioned for xbox 1 can be torn to shreds as well...if only there was some gameplay of those x1 games? Oh i forgot about the 1 second QB clip...Sadly the market for those non shooters doesn't exist on the xbox brand fanbase.

[hkgamer]

uncharted has been announced.

has halo been confirmed for 2014?

sony has no money and sony is in trouble. but they still sacrifising profits to get more consoles into gameres hands. MS is selling an overpriced console with a camera most of us dont want.

[Master-H]

You conveniently ignored MLB The Show 14, The Order 1886, DriveClub, TLoU Remasted, H1Z1.

Now let's break it down your way :

- Project Spark, Titanfall, Plants vs Zombies are all on PC as well, "no attension" for those games as well by your logic.

-Fable Legends : a game series which gets worse gradually with each installment, and they haven't shown gameplay or given a release date for yet, HUGE TITLE...

-Halo 5 : No gameplay shown, no release date, i guess "nothing confirmed" as you say it, not to mention the series lost it's touch with Bungie leaving.

-Quantum Break : No release date, shown exactly 1 second of gameplay, The team's last game Alan Wake was great but didn't sell much on Xbox, hopefully this one will feature more guns and shooting to fit the audience and do well..

-Sunset Overdrive : No gameplay or release date as well, Insomniac latest games haven't been exactly stellar..

[Max-Zorin]

Until fanboys actually start fighting, there is no war.

[The_devils_chum]

Lol what a stupid question, is sony winning the console war? Let me answer it for you "does a bear shit in the woods?

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

They got it right with their advertisement efforts and are now riding the E3 hype to good sales.
They still haven't gotten the games needed to convince me to open up my wallet for them, though.
$400 on top of a Vita for off-TV play, plus the extra cost of PS+ if I ever want to touch the majority of good multiplayer games, and no native backwards compatibility to keep me busy while I wait for unique games that will be must-haves on the system?

I'm waiting for a drastic price drop.

[ShowGun901]

if the past is any indicator, that MIGHT be holiday 2015.

[Dark_matter]

What a rhetorical question, of course it's winning the console war for now. Seriously, articles like this should not be posted unless it's something new in gaming news or more info on something, not some rehashed crap that people know about or that is has already been seen.

[unknownbystander]

What people don't know or pretend to ignore is that it DOESN'T matter how MUCH it SELLS or who they SELL it TO (casuals, gamers, enthusiasts, etc.). The --->Profit<--- they make after selling the console is what really matters and it ensures that there is a demand for their product, encouraging the companies to create a successor in hopes that it'll sell once again.

A lot of people argue that the Wii didn't win last gen because just because it sold to the casuals. Well, it's a console albeit it being weaker that the PS3/Xbox 360, and it gave Nintendo lot's of profit.

Then we have the PS2/Xbox/GameCube era. While the PS2 sold a heck-ton, Sony lost a lot of money because of the PS2's components. The GameCube however, gave Nintendo lots of profit even with only 22+ Million consoles sold because of how they priced and built the product (although most devs despised the mini-disc).

If there is anything that is need of correction, please tell me.

[fonduktoe]

I hope we get more articles like this. How about 2+2=4 but that doesn't mean it couldn't be 5 someday.

[breakpad]

Not yet ..but has a good start ..the games still do not convince me