Massive Information Leak About Sony’s Morpheus Talks Tech, Price, Games, 2015 Release and Much More

Sony's Project Morpheus has raised a lot of interest after its unveiling two days ago, and also a lot of rumors. Today a Reddit user going by the name PS4VR posted a large bundle of information citing sources internal to Sony that sounds very realistic, but of course should be taken with a rather sizable grain of salt.

[RPG_Lover]

$250-$299 is still way to expensive for mass market, and if you do not have the games to back it up. It will remain pretty marginalized. So what is happening with PS4 software?

I do not like how they are fragmenting PS4 users like this.Then again, these are just rumors, pretty absurd ones at that.

I am pretty darn worried.

@Abriel
No, not everything. But when it comes to splintering the install base when you do not have the software in place already, I am worried.

I love my PS4 but first party software on the horizon (infamous is great) is pretty lacking. They want to do seperate experiences now? I am worried about it.

Really? Namecalling?

@dante

Read the report. They are saying they are making exclusive VR experiences.

[Abriael]

Yeah, you're always "worried" about anything and everything involving PS4 and Sony :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[NewMonday]

I say quality over price

VR needs to be done right or not at all, this will be the thing to take the industry mainstream far beyond what the Wii did.

Sony needs to think of it as a different medium.

Seriously this is the biggest thing since going from radio to TV.

[NewMonday]

as for the technical talk I don't know what is the point of 90FPS, FPS depend on the game anyway, and it should be locked at a steady 60FPS.

and as for much wider FOV the current model hardly leaves much out at 90°.

[Charybdis]

Fragmenting ps4 users depends if will add vr functionality to their games or will also create experiences which will only work with vr. It also depends if there will be games which will depend on move controllers. It is a valid question what approach sony will take with ps4 vr software.

I do believe sony will and should offer/help with a software solution for third party engines to allow for quick/easy vr integration in their games.

Pricing wise 250 (without pseye?)- 299 (with pseye) is very good pricing and I can see why the article mentions sony subsidising Morpheus, the previews have been very positive.

[johndoe11211]

Ignore him, this guy is a tool. How the hell is $250-$300 too expensive when the article clearly says that that price also includes a camera? Your deduction of him being a concern troll is spot on.

[Xsilver]

"I asked him about Killzone’s resolution and 30fps limit and he responded that Killzone had to make launch giving little time to tweak it to take advantage of the PS4 hardware but that he has already seen atleast two exclusive PS4 games running at 1080p and a rock solid 60fps that graphically significantly surpass The Dark Sorceror in engine demo that Sony wowed people with last year."

http://gifsec.com/wp-conten... it's gonna be a long and good generation.

[Volkama]

I'm one of the enthusiasts they describe. I will happily pay for quality. If anyone from Sonyland is monitoring this thread, please write down a note saying that some people (I represent a consortium, maybe?) want you to go all-out on making the best headset you can up to a price of... pretty much anything.

Launch a revolution, and let the "mainstream" catch on as the price comes down

[justSumDood]

@Volkama

No. You're not alone.

With no exaggeration or word of a lie I would pay $1000 for either VR HMD and not give it a second thought. I've no problem spending the money for a quality VR experience.

And in truth, I pride myself as being an early adopter. For me the price tag comes with the territory. Always has.

[nunley33]

I'll bite but it would be nice if i could use it to watch all my regular content on it and games. It could be how 3d tvs can give regular content 3d but isn't nearly as good as real 3d content,like that. Maybe play wolfenstein 3D in 3D! Assuming i could use this with ps now also that is down the road.

[DanteVFenris666]

You do know all vr games can be played without using vr...no one is being fragmented. It's just an extra option

[SlyFamousthe3rd]

Stealth troll! you almost had me ;)

[zeee]

Stealth troll... fail.

[amiga-man]

At that pricing I will certainly be jumping in, a whole new gaming experience awaits and I for one can't wait, the PS4 is looking more and more the console to own cheaper more powerful PS+, great first party support now VR.

Sony is certainly delivering this gen. http://www.google.co.uk/img...

[parentoftheyear]

I think that is the perfect price and people will be lined up for it. I know I will be. Even if the game comes with one experience out of the box its mine. Been waiting for something like this for a long time. I'm more interested in visual experiences ra5her than games such has the shark underwater demo at gdc or talks about a walk through space. Yes please. $300,is a cheaper and safer alternative than going into space.

[MonChiChi]

Yep for tech at this caliber that price tag is pretty nice and inviting.

[Hicken]

Obviously, they won't be going for "mass market appeal" at launch, but it'll have a more attractive price tag than the XB1, which is aimed at the mass market, and offer a more unique experience than the Wii U.

That last bit probably rustles your jimmies a bit, huh?

[Ck1x]

Hopefully this does turn out successful, but why since Sony announced VR do people now think it's the future! To be honest $250-$300 is not a mainstream price point. It will get some early adopters but it's still a add on accessory for the PS4. The thing that makes tech like VR hard to sell to the mass public is there's really no way to demonstrate how it works unless people try it for themselves. Most people won't get past putting something bulky on their heads to gain an experience. This is one of the reasons why 3d hasn't grown to the heights that it should be.

[SmielmaN]

Meh, won't be a big deal offering consumers the CHOICE of using a peripheral instead of FORCING it on you by putting it with the console and jacking up the price. I'm sure there will be bundles tho too. By the time this comes out the PS4 will prob have dropped $50 or so it won't be too bad. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they produce for it and how it plays.

[5eriously]

Another troll that needs his remaining bubbles burst just like they did with mine!

I wish there was a way for N4G to identify specific trolls and limit their access to comment on articles based on those they normally troll.

Whoever sees VR as just another add on peripheral like the troll above should rethink what the technology entails and what it offers. I will easily pay the projected costs as well as the higher costs for the better version of the VR tech and the fact that I will not need an additional platform to experience the technology will make it so much sweeter.

I would like to see what the Lover troll posts as soon as M$ reveals their version of the VR tech and I will make a point of showing up his two faced biased opinions and trolling.

[OiNioB]

"I wish there was a way for N4G to identify specific trolls and limit their access to comment on articles based on those they normally troll."

I like that idea, start building the algorithm!

That would make Xbox articles have an almost non existent comment section

[tkato]

Honestly, I'm willing to pay 1000$ for PS4+VR (because i'm still not willing to jump to the next gen without some games coming out first), but the experience should be well structured, or it won't glue.. I'm excited :) been wanting head tracking for a long time, and VR looks like it's going to be friggin amazing!! (I wouldn't mind to try out oculus but they are taking their sweet time and will require and much higher spec PC to run games well, while I believe that the developers focusing on one hardware will be more fruitful)

[Eonjay]

Do you really think they would "fragment" their user base with VR. Don't worry about it. For example, when Resistance 3 shipped, it supported Move AND a regular controller. Instead of worrying, pay attention to their track record.

[Joe913]

@RPG_Lover The OR dk2 is $350 so $250 $299 is a fair price especially when most ppl thought this would cost $500 or more just based on Sony's other head mounted displays. Gamers are already fragmented with all the genre of games fps, tps, rpg, racing, sports, motion games this will just become another genre may take the place of fps and racing and combine with the motion games. I doubt it will fragment gamers anymore than they are now there will always be 3 types of gamers causal, regular, Hardcore no need to be worried. I like to think VR is to gaming as the Iphone was to cell phones imo. There are a lot of great games in the works and a lot we do not even know about but complaining about no hardware is kinda mute are you new to gaming because you sound like a troll any gamer know we are in the slow part of the year for games just because there are new consoles don't change it never has but you honestly sound like you just trolling what you are saying do not make sense.

[stuna1]

How is this too expensive? When technically Morpheus and Oculus Rift are both cheaper than a good pair of Ray Ban glasses from a technical point.

[abzdine]

a Nintendo fanboy worried about PS?
how can that be?

i'm extremely excited for the VR as long as it works and there is a guarantee that lots of games and publishers will support it

[Ck1x]

I don't know why you have so many disagrees, it seems like a valid point that you are raising.

[ThunderSpark]

Please ignore this troll. He lives to bash Sony and anything not Nintendo. He needs to be banned. I myself cannot wait for this to come out!

[Patrick_pk44]

Morpheus is a project in development. I expect a late 2015 or 2016 release. Sony's studios are currently working on software and won't just stop for VR. If you are so worried move to Microsoft your saviour.

[chrisarsenalsavart]

Why Don,t u just go and play with your 3ds or WIIU(which are great consoles by the way) and let us be.
U hate everything Sony related, so why pretending?

[jnemesh]

PLENTY of people, including myself would not only pay $300 for their existing setup, but would PREFER to pay more for a higher performing set! $300-$500 is not too much for a VR headset.

[Prime157]

I feel this is most pertinent to what you said... "PS4 to be the place where gamers go for cutting edge mainstream games and the VR+PS4 combo to be the place to go for anyone interested in rich immersive VR experiences even if they don’t have the technical knowledge necessary to get something like the Oculus Rift up and running."

That makes sense.

[WeAreLegion]

Whether this is some guy leaking stuff or Sony is intentionally leaking the information, it's clear we need to give them feedback.

I couldn't be more excited for this!

[ArbitorChief]

Didn't we just hear that Driveclub wasn't coming to Morpheus? So why is an Insider saying Driveclub is coming to VR? I hope the headset releases end of this year, I'd love to enter the world of Destiny, that would be amazing!

[Abriael]

A release of the headset by the end of the year is nigh impossible, IMHO.

Also Yoshida's wording about Driveclub is a bit less black and white than that. He said that currently evolution isn't working on morpheus, but the he headset will be out a lot after the release of the game, so they might work on it afterwards, or have another studio work on it.

It could also be that the source has outdated info about driveclub, from before it was canned.

[XiSasukeUchiha]

Sony is getting me hyped for true next gen experience

[Gravity_DoGG]

Im a ps fan and have been my whole life. But i just cant stand your comments. You must be like 12?

[Ricegum]

I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if this dude wasn't even a gamer.

[SebbyGVS]

Almost every time I see a comment from XiSasukeUchiha it's heavily downvoted, and I can kind of understand why. He seems to comment simply for the sake of commenting, it's often unoriginal or even regurgitating the title of the story.

[TomRL]

This stuff about 1440p running at 90fps seems a bit far fetched. It is a sad thing to say, but the PS4 might not be capable of very much when it comes to VR. I can't imagine that hardware optimisation information given by the "indie" is true. It is far less complex than the consoles before it, we have had x86 architecture for years, there is not much more you can do with it.

[Abriael]

The PS4 can definitely run 1440p at 90 fps, it really depends on WHAT it's running. Even my older PC that I use as a media center and has specs inferior to the PS4 can do that kind of performance with simpler games.

Yeah, it won't get even close to run Infamous second son at that resolution/framerate. Infamous 1? Hell yes it could.

[TomRL]

But the Last of Us? It will have to be able to run the game at 1440p at 180fps in order for that to translate into the 90fps 3D that the leaker is suggesting. That is insane.

Unless they release some sort of box to aid the PS4 gpu processing. But that would bump the price up into even more insane areas.

I doubt we will get a next gen experience with the Morpheus, or even much of a last gen experience. Not at 1440p.

Edit: The $299 price point is pretty good. But it would be painful to know that a superior version could be attained for a bit more :/

I know Sony has often opted for quality over a cheap price. But in the last year they seemed to have learned that it is better for them to give us a good product at a decent price instead. I can't blame them for it and it seems that that is the way they will do, providing all of the information provided is true.

[Abriael]

Morpheus DOES have his own processor. It's in the tech specs.

Now I don't know how powerful it is, or what it does exactly, but it's there.

Also, the last of us can run on a PS3, which is very much less powerful than a PS4. Strip it down a bit, and I'm quite confident a PS4 can run it at 1440p/90.

[rayzorn]

abiael yeah i read them saying it had a processor also. i was thinking an internal processor on the vr unit could probably split up the image for the eyes to take strain off of the game console.

not sure if it really could or not but i dont see why not.

[Akuma07]

You need to stop being ignorant and realize what a console truly is. The optimization information he gives is 100% true. PC elitests always dispute it because they can't handle the truth.

The facts are, PC software is not optimized and is a brute force approach to achieving high end results. Higher efficiency is 110% better than brute force.

[Anon1974]

Bang on.

[ar00043]

250-299 with camera bundle would sell really well. Hopefully the rumour is right!

[jnemesh]

I would rather have the "enhanced version" for $399!

[beerzombie]

300$ I think is the low amount especially with a camera they took out to cut cost against MS.

[chikane]

250$ for something that well forever change the way we play games on home consoles.. i'm Ok with this price.

[RPG_Lover]

250-299 is not a mass market price. Especially if you are asking someone to buy a PS4 for 399 on top of that. Nobody has explained how this device feels on the face after a 5 hour game session, how the graphics and framerate and sickness will comphensate. It is easy to say wow this is awesome after a non consumer demo. But there are still more questions than answers.

I am sorry, but being realistic also means I am not a fanboy.

Kinect was 100 dollars, and still got barely any support even though it sold well because of it's price.

You have to be skeptical at this point. (I understand the word troll is thrown around way to much when your skeptical. I have a PS4 and a Vita. I am sure I am more of a Sony fan than most of you)

[Kayant]

"I am sorry, but being realistic also means I am not a fanboy." - You're not deceiving anyone so stop trying.

"You have to be skeptical at this point. (I understand the word troll is thrown around way to much when your skeptical. I have a PS4 and a Vita. I am sure I am more of a Sony fan than most of you)" - Loooooool this is the dumbest excuse even used by trolls like you.

[TomRL]

I agree, still more questions than answers. I think most N4G users have already accepted this as the greatest thing ever. But I'd rather be reserved about this and not be dissapointed later. The PS4, hardware wise, is very shakey ground for 3D.

Although I don't agree with comparing this product with the Move. I can see a similar issue in that the user has to buy three different pieces of technology to make it work. $400 PS4, $60 Camera and a $300 on top is a bit much and a bit confusing for most.

[ruefrak]

Oh, but it could be. People are paying $150 for the PS4 camera right now. During stock shortages, the PS4 was/is selling for way more than they're asking.

If this device is everything this leak claims it is, then they will sell out of it rapidly at $400.

[S2Killinit]

@Rpg lover
Dude why dont you put your fanboy glasses aside fir a bit and enjoy what will be an epic experience for all gamers?

[jnemesh]

The price is FINE (I would prefer to pay MORE for a better headset!)...if it was something like a Kinect, I would agree with you, but I don't think you realize just how DIFFERENT VR is from regular gaming. This isn't a "gimmick", it's a true REVOLUTION in how we game!

You don't have to be a fanboy, and I understand your skepticism. But I think that you will stop being skeptical when you are able to actually TRY VR for yourself...then you will get it.

[I_am_Batman]

"The Last of Us, God of War and Drive Club are being built into brand new VR experiences from the ground up."

Wait does this mean those games are being ported to PS4 VR. Or does that mean that they are working on VR sequels?

"Guerrilla Games is working on a unique first person Adventure RPG built from the ground up for VR and Sucker Punch once they wrapped up work on Infamous started work on something VR related."

I just hope that those games will be playable without the VR headset. Don't get me wrong I'm interessted in the VR headset myself but I don't want my favorite devs to work exclusevely on that.

[Tatsuya]

@RPG_Lover:

Congrats troll, you just completely wasted your two useless bubbles LOL

Morpheus AWAITS PS NATIONS :)

[jcnba28]

I have a feeling this VR stuff will be a fad just like 3D but I hope I'm wrong.

[Baka-akaB]

Well there are worse fads to emulate , 3d is still around and a default feature for many current things .

[majiebeast]

Once the porn biz picks up VR its here to stay forever.

[KentBlake]

I really hope everything in this leak is true. I was never a VR believer, but this is making me more and more excited about it. Besides, that comment about the guy having seen games running on the PS4 at 1080p/60 with a graphical fidelity that is superior to that Quantic Dream Sorcerer demo gave me goosebumps.

[TomahawkX]

PS4+VR bundle for $499 Christmas 2015!

[Akuma07]

Wow this stuff sounds like it came from my own mouth. The leaker details PC software exactly the same as I have been saying for years. Glad to know there are actually other intelligent people who understand those points too.

[kainslayer]

no way in hell 2x1440p is achievable on sony get off the hype train and pray for 1080p 60 oled display and be greatfull if that happens

[DeadManMMX]

All I have to say is day one. Day one.

[Roronoa0411]

This is very exciting. I hope they release games that work both on VR and TV's though so there is a choice. Otherwise I can't see the software selling what it needs to with limited units in the hands of consumers. I will definitely be buying one so I'm hoping everyone else with a PS4 plans to do the same.

[S2Killinit]

Wow what a read. I cant wait. And for the record im leaning toward a slightly more expensive but better VR. This is going to be Epic!

[Aghashie]

VR is a new (well, not so new, look back at the 1990) tech that only a handful of us have ever experienced. People will talk about price and software without really knowing w they are talking about. So, how can people tell that $300-$400 is expensive? You cant tag something as expensive just because ur wallet cant afford it. Fist we have to measure that quality is par to price, then we can decide that the price is fair or not.

I bet that everyone who have demoed the Oculus before will agree to the price, just cause they know that quality is up to the price. Simple.

I think people should wait. Wait for more info or a demo booth at a game stop or something. VR have been around for some time and now we have two companies on a serious attempt to push it to mainstream market. Lets not become ourselves a brick wall to impede this tech to reach us.

Me? Yes, i am hyped. Since the Oculus experience i have been dreaming for this tech to hit consoles. And now is finally happening!

[Ck1x]

I agree to welcome the advancement of technology in every way possible. But some people are going too far with exclaiming how successful this will be with so little information about games and all. You mentioned price, but for a add on $250-$300 is pretty high! Yes it might be fairly cheap for a VR experience. But this will be one of the most expensive add ons in gaming history. Sony will need very compelling software to get people to just throw their wallets at retailers. And at what point do franchises you know and love get a only for Project Morpheus tag on it? Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but I would rather Sony continue to focus on pushing PS4, fix the Vita's marketplace and then do the VR thing.

[Aghashie]

I cant really say how successful this will be, but after you demo something as awesome as the Oculus u cant really stop daydreaming on having this tech at home. Yes, this will be one "expensive" add on, no doubt. But is not the first time this things happens. Take a look back to the Sega Genesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Sega CD: $300
32X: $150

I am not talking about sales success w this example. Just want to point out its not the first time to happen.

If the Sony VR thing is comparable in terms of quality to the Oculus, then i think the price is about right. I only demoed an early build that was laggy and flawed in many ways, but still quite amazing and impressive.

"I would rather Sony continue to focus on pushing PS4, fix the Vita's marketplace and then do the VR thing."

Must say i strongly agree w u on this one.

[alti]

If only you could take this puppy on the go and play your vita with it :O

[amnalehu]

Sony, pay close attention... Do it ONCE and do it RIGHT! Make the OLED screens, give us the wider field of view, make the frame rate as high as possible. I would much rather pay $399 for a superior piece of kit than $299 and be stuck with what might have been...

[BraidedWALLACE]

I'm calling it right now. (UNTIL DAWN) will be golden with the VR if its still in development. I hope that reason why we haven't heard of it in awhile

[Juiceid]

This will make me buy a ps4, but only if the deep demo comes with it. Hell, a lot of us spent more just to play waggle bowling! Hopefully, it'll be packaged with a super vr bundle with infamous!

[TristanPR77]

I don't know but Morpheus is a good name, they should keep it that way.

[bluzone]

IMHO $250-299 sounds very good to me. But you only get what you pay for.
I usually pay more if its a better choice. So if I have a choice in this "super size me". $399 is still less than what I'd would be willing to pay for 'a great experience".

[TheRedButterfly]

For $299 I'd buy another Wii U. :)

Edit: Either that or put it towards my Rig. Maybe a new graphic tablet.

[ravendown]

yall can add my on psn gametag ravendown.. i dont understand for the love of me why gamers are so cheap that, 300$, is something to cry over. I have no problem droping 300 at one time, but for people that do, please save 50 dollars a month til release im sure you will find that you pay it off with alot to spare. Nothing in life thats worth anything is free. ps get a better job/ or a job. see you all on psn

[N4GJD]

Sony needs to be very cautious about pricing it above $229.99 if they really want it to become mainstream. That would be just above half the price of the console itself. And the mainstream likely continues to wrap their heads around gaming consoles being more expensive these days.

While increased specifications may improve the visual fidelity; it would not only lead to a higher price tag, but also be more demanding for the hardware to render the improved picture, making games actually look worse. Plus, the mainstream understands and is comfortable with 1080p/60fps.

[ravendown]

im just saying, what im willing to spend has no limted but the higher the price, the more i should be wowed! i dont want to buy a 100$ vr headset and it turnd out crappy becuase of it

[jhoward585]

$250 -299 is a good price for Sony's VR.

But rather have quality over cost any day. Sony has a choice here. They either could reap the long term benefits or the short term benefit with thier VR.

releasing a cheap and affordable will end up hurting Sony's in the long run if their VR doesn't appeal to gamers for least 10 years. It needs to last the lifespan of the ps4.

[jenniferdehner9]

Thanks for this information