1UP previews Killzone 2

By Garnett Lee:"Background: This gritty sci-fi shooter pits the Interplanetary Strategic Alliance against the Helghast in the long-awaited sequel to one of the bigger disappointments of the PS2 library. The original Killzone received tremendous prerelease hype, only to stumble on enough technical problems alone to ensure it never lived up to expectations. Developer Guerrilla Games seems unfazed by that experience, though, with excitement for Killzone 2 growing to grand proportions. The notorious E3 2005 teaser clip hooked everyone, and ever since, the question has been whether the game can live up to the buzz."

[Condoleezza Rice]

Why,this has never ever ever ever ever happened before!

[LenHart]

It should be ' 1up previews Killzone 2' rather than VERY NEGATIVE

It is 1up so what do u expect

[Vojkan]

Same guy Lee, wrote extremly possitive LBP and Resistance 2 previews, so please dont be so unoriginal. Also at latest EGM podcst he said
'I cant wait for 1 up yours podcast episode to tell you about Sony games (talking about recent event) added "Smoking HOT!" So that is why i am surprised about this preview. But to be honest i see same flaws looking at videos.

[chaosatom333]

xbox owners present ---check

xbox owners talking about Killzone 1 sucked so this must too --check

xbox owners have not read the article ---check and check

[sonarus]

lol @ the very negative addition.

Well imo they over exaggerated a couple of things especially the enemy respawn. KZ2 is not the first title to exhibit infinite enemies a certain game called COD4 immediately comes to mind.

To be fair, nothing aside from the visuals really stands out when watching but at the same time i can say that about 99% of all games including COD4 which they once again showered with praise.

At the end of the day, certain people simply don't want to see any good in KZ2. Its GG responsibility to prove them wrong not mine:D

[Vojkan]

I agree with Sonarus. What is new about Halo 3? Someone please tell me? Even graphics suck big time in that game.
BTW i am not going to edit title, i dont care if news fails as it will.
Everyone knows i am super PS3 fanboy, but this preview is first VERY negative preview of KZ2, 80% of the article is negative text.

[Peekay]

what exactly is new? According to Halo fans - "oh the multiplayer was the second coming of christ - even though campaign mode is donkeys"

Honestly.

[clintos59]

Its funny how alot of reviewers be pointing out ps3 games and finding any little thing to thrash them for example, killzone 2, I mean they dont want to admit the game is the best looking game graphically but they will bring up other crap to lower the game from being great like it has no innovation or is the same as any other fps. Well I wonder wtf makes halo 3 so amazing? Was it the graphics? Was it the Story? Was it the innovation? Halo 3 didnt even accomplish any of these things and I will admit it is a fun game to play online but everything else is just the same oh thing and yet 1up gave it a 10. WTF and they sit here and talk down on killzone 2, mgo online. I have a feeling these fools and other game sites get payed to do reviews. Money talks now days and reviews cant be trusted. I say people should just buy games because u like it, not because we go by reviews these game sites are either payed to do or they are simply fanboys themselves.

[OrignalGoatseGuy]

This really is pathetic.

Everyone knows 1Up has been salivating to trash Killzone 2 like a dog chained next to a piece of meat out of reach and now they are being let loose.

Remember that 1Up is the site that actually went so far in the fear and hatred of Killzone 2 to invent some random bogus 'AI award' after last year's E3 and trash KZ2's real time demo with it. A demo which was nothing more than showing the KZ2 engine live on stage at E3.

1Up is the site that tried to damage control the amazing real time E3 showing last year and claimed the game that people wouldn't be possible until the PS4 somehow now looked worse than Gears of War.

[Kleptic]

this really is crap...all CoD 4 had was pointless respawning of enemies until you reached a certain point...then they just spawned from the next position you had to reach...

and it works...while it can hurt immersion if you really pay attention to it, it forces you to take risks...you can't just sit back and pop everyone, then waltz on through...

but whatever...its 1up...there was nothing else to be expected...but it more or less seals this title as an average shooter from reviewers...if the most impressive graphics ever and a very solid mechanics aren't enough...nothing is...

I 100% guarantee if this title was exclusive to the 360, you wouldn't be able to escape it...hell half the media is still 'zomg Gears 2 b3st gphrx efor'...when it looks like a mod for Ut3 currently ...the visuals of KZ2 are clearly a few steps ahead of anything on a console so far...even the majority of 360 fanatics have admitted that it looks incredible...yet 1up complains about there being too much concrete...and the fact that the ingredients to create concrete leave it looking grey...well that simply isn't good enough...

they should have painted Helghan purple...and had the entire place look like a tropical resort...and make Sev wear a suit and helmet that makes him look like he is about to play paintball...1up wouldn't be able to get thier jaws off the floor then for sure...

I hate the internet...

[kevoncox]

The fanboys are going to tear the internet down....Runnnnnnnnnn

[Panthers]

Well I feel that a lot of what they said is justified. I really dont like monotonous games. I hope they add a little freedom to how you tackle each situation. I dont want to feel like I was forced to do one exact thing.

[Panthers]

whoever disagreed, please say why. Do you like being forced into one solution for a situation?

I am sure Killzone will rock, but I hope that this is fixed. I also think that infinitely respawining enemies is a terrible idea.

[CViper]

Yep. Looks like Killzone2 will suffer from a case of PS3-Exclusiveitus.

Same could be said about.. oh I dunno...

every single title made on earth.

Where was 1up saying "Been there Done that" with ANY title outside of PS3 exclusives? These are the same guys getting excited seeing a third person game character punching another character.

[kevoncox]

They are just giving their opinions. No one wants to play a FPS that feels like they are stuck in a box where everything has been determined for them. It was the same issue I had with COD4 and the level where you had to use the stinger missles on the roof to destroy those tanks. The game looks great but I guess what they are saying is that it's too much of a paint by numbers approach. Seriously infinite respawning has got to go. Espicially since they all run to the same spot as the guy that you just gunned down.

Plenty of time to fix this though.

[fenderputty]

You know it's a problem with COD4. So your opinion of this happening in KZ2 would be a valid complaint.

1UP thinks it's a problem with KZ2. 1UP didn't think it was a problem with COD4.

I don't think there's some conspiracy or bribes or anything like that. I just tend to think 1UP has a small 360 bias. Even a small bias combined with the hype that KZ2 is getting, could lead to people being a little nit-picky.

[Panthers]

It really wasnt a problem with CoD4. You could decide to shoot through a window or go different ways in order to tackle the situation. If you play on hardest, you really have to improvise in order to get through certain areas.

Infinitely respawning enemies is a bad thing.

[Kleptic]

agreed...if anything I think it helps the gameplay at points...

without it, you are stuck back in the doom days...where you could just stay back and hose everyone from a distance...then it was just a matter of finding your way around...

infinite respawning forces you to move under fire...which makes everything twice as intense...it still has to be done properly, and there is plenty of time for that to be addressed over the next 3/4 year...

[Fishy Fingers]

Each to their own. Perhaps at the next game show he wouldn't mind passing his hands-on time to me, I'm sure Id enjoy it more.

[Panthers]

I dont see how anyone could be disapointed with the colors. The lighting makes the colors seem awesome. From the videos I saw, the lighting set the mood and the colors seemed to glow because of it. Awesome so far.

[C_SoL]

personally i really don't wanna feel like a robot when i'm playing the campaign. hopefully they change that...

[CViper]

Or that COD4 was so much like a real sandbox game No Forced paths at all... there weren't really only 3 paths to get to the same ending..

Criticisms are fine, but not when you've given all other titles a pass for doing the exact same thing you are smearing a PS3 title with.

[smurfie4]

I see potential in this title regardless of the petty b!tching. Killzone is first and foremost an fps so it will play like one. If we can be honest there hasnt been a standout fps for a long time. If this game can prove to be a solid engaging fps then thats all it needs to be. It doesnt need to walk on water or turn water into wine.

[miked808]

There has been a standout FPS and its called Call of Duty 4, which by the way "if we can all be honest" still looks like a better game than Killzone 2.

[funkysolo]

You need to go have your eyes check..Kz2 looks like it's in another league. The game just looks like alot of fun, plain and simple. This are stupid nitpicking...Was COD4, Halo3, Bioshock linear? I dont' remember anything on the reveiws about linear on any of these reveiws, do you? Halo3 single player is one of the worst games I have ever played. I only finish it because I had finish the first 2. COD4 rocks and I didn't mind the linear since it's not a sandbox title and there is a story to follow. When you read a book do you get to change any part of the story? Kz2 is a story driven game, just like reading a book you read one page at a time

[Kain81]

than we can speak about negativs at this point Killzone 2 has the best
graphics (Most likely CGI) on a Pre-alpha state
The game is in Work in progress.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[Fernando Rocker]

Don't want to bash or anything, but this game looks a lot better than Killzone, and is also in pre-alpha.

Look the textures, blood particles and lighting.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[Kain81]

...Pre-Beta and not Pre-Alpha.
AND KILLZONE2>Project Origin

EDIT:read the text at the beginning of the Video

[jwatt]

Yea but it's good that 1up mentions this stuff now before it's too late. Lets hope GG are listening and will fix it before the game is released.

[Varsarus]

The game is pre-alpha, not even beta, and it's already making people speechless, imagine the final build!!

[Captain Tuttle]

It's been "pre-alpha" for a year. That doesn't fly anymore.

[Kain81]

a pre-pre-Alpha version please read the articles about that and than give statements about this game.

[Captain Tuttle]

With that logic this game will come out for the PS5.

[Vanqu1sh]

Wow, Killzone getting horrible previews today - game just doesn't seem to be very good

Another big PS3 Exclusive flop would be sad

[nycredude]

That article had me thinking he was previewing COD4. Last time i checked COD4 was goty and is a great game!!!

BTW what did 1up give COD4?

[Retro-Virus]

I am confused guys.

Are games like COD-4 or HALO-3's single player campaign non-linear ?

Killzone-2 has nothing to set itself apart ? Are you f#ckin kidding me ?

What about the realism, the physics, the destructibility, the sheer attention to detail and the jaw dropping visuals.

I have lost hope in all these websites. Everyone of em !!

[Kain81]

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EDIT:Bubbles for ya

[DJ]

We need to be hypocritical asswipes, just like these guys, and start complaining about how Killzone is an FPS title and does so many things right that we need to criticize the color of its in-game concrete.

[Retro-Virus]

Bubbles for both !!

[meepmoopmeep]

"don't worry be happy"

no insecurity from me.
this game will get nit-picked through hell though.

[Serjikal_Strike]

You made a good point mate...bubbles 4 u

[Salta_nelas]

1UP at it again. They have double standards for PS3 FPS.

Anyway, get ready because KZ2 will be nipticked to its core for whatever reasons.

[Dark Collosis]

Man you people amaze me. I mean whats gonna happen when more sites preview KZ2 and say the same thing? Is it the WORLD AGAINST SONY?? Or is it in fact that SONY put so much LIES and PROMISS in there games and are truely just underdelivering? I really hope KZ2 is a great game for the sake of some of these fanboys here, and so i dont have to read about mass suicides of N4G sonyfans after KZ2 bombs.. Damn us gamers get enough bad attention as it is. Maybe to many of us set the bar of this game just alittle to high??

[solidjun5]

did Sony shoot you in the leg when you were young or something.

[power of Green]

The outstanding effects mainly the lighting in this game draws your attention from how the game really looks.
Believe me when I watched video of this title my mouth was wide open trying to figure out how in the hell are they doing this then once I actually look at the game! parts of it looked no better than Halo 3.

Obviously we all knew this title had texture issues from the Nite time footage of gameplay a while back. Maybe the solution was the lighting effects hence only showing the dark level.

[DJ]

Enemy spawning? Most games have this. A built path for players to progress through? This is a fundamental element of game Design. Even the titles that the author quotes as being superior and distinguishable, i.e. Call of Duty 4 and Bioshock, have both of these "major problems" as key gameplay elements.

Complaining about the desaturation filter that so glorified in Gears of War and (guess what) Call of Duty 4 was pretty hilarious, though not as hilarious as complaining that the concrete in Killzone 2 is grey-colored. Guerilla should've learned their lesson and made concrete that was orange and green in order to be 'distinguishable'.

[juuken]

Even Ninja Gaiden had this.

[juuken]

...Whatever.

[Real gamer 4 life]

I dont trust 1 up previews and reviews. They are clearly biased when it comes to sony.

[juuken]

Oh for crying out loud..-.-
They're full of crap. It must have surprised them so much that they didn't find anything to pick on so they had to make stuff up. Oh, I cannot wait for the bots to come scrambling over here like a pack of termites and make fun of this game.

I hope the developers prove all of them wrong.

Assholes.

[DJ]

They must've scoured day and night to figure out what they could possibly complain about.

[juuken]

Exactly!

[bootsielon]

Wake up from the awesome graphics Killzone has (they are awesome indeed), and ask yourselves what is Killzone bringing to the table other than graphics. 1up is talking about level design, weapon design, enemy design, originality, gameplay, AI... what about those aspects? While most of their reviews are sh1t, I think this preview is kind of spot on. I hope killzone 2 does something about that but at this point who knows.

Dont just disagree with me as you do in the other Killzone threads, please tell me how this game is actually innovating other than from a technological standpoint in terms of graphics.

[juuken]

But for heaven's sake it's just a demo.
The damn game isn't even finished yet and it comes out February 2009.

[DJ]

But were still very fun. I don't really care about innovation so long as the game feels fresh and is a blast to play. If you want innovation, pick up Shadow of the Collosus or Okami.

And like Juuken said, it's just a 10 minute demo of a game that's still in alpha status, and 1UP basically wrote a full review. Actually, a lot of sources are writing full reviews of the Gamers Day demo.

[Real gamer 4 life]

Okay ask yourself this question, what did halo cod4 or bioshock bring new to the table? They did not bring nothing that has not been done before, Everything in those games have already been done multiple times. They are complaining about the game being linear. Come on now name me a fps that is not linear! Halo Cod4 and bioshock is is 100% linear. there complaining about stupid stuff. and this preview should not be taking seriously at all. That 1up website is a joke.

[funkysolo]

I can't wait to play this linear azzz game...I love the gun it's almost to real. I like the view it's the best FPS view I have seen almost like the camera is further than previous FPS. I don't mind path I almost prefer, I hope they have more inside buiding path were enemies jump in front of you. I don't need a sandbox game I want a story driven game where I feel I'm living the story as the game progress....It's a game there is only one path, Name me a game where you actually chose a different path that play different and the ending ended up different? NONE..Halo3? bioshock?cod4? It's funny how KZ2 gets nitpick because I haven't seen any gameplay flaws beside some glitches(that should be fix by release)...KZ2 has me more excited than any game ever EVer!!! Even more than gears1

[kingOVsticks]

This is only a demo right? also its still in pre alpha soooo why is 1up being so critical about it being linear and re spawned enemies? Other than portal and half life I haven't played an FPS that wasn't linear also since when was linear always a bad thing 0.o?

all this PS3 FPS hating today is giving me an ulcer

[StrboyM]

I can specifically remember COD4 having multiple places where you had to shoot down a helicopter or tank and there just happened to be a rocket launcher nearby...worst than that, I missed my first 2 shots and the rocket launcher respawned..lmao

Im not saying hes wrong, but if thats his biggest gripe, im not really worried

[Vanqu1sh]

I think killzone 2 will probably get bad reviews in feb 09 when it comes out

maybe hyping it so high now isn't a good idea?

[Says you]

Made there own system they all have to bash the PS3 its like a freaking blitz krieg.

[Sekmenton]

looks like another Haze for PS3 owners. LOL

[wangdiddy82]

it would be getting so much praise and good reviews.. Just like gears 2.. which looks the same as gears 1 with more color.. Killzone 2 from what i have seen so far looks like the best looking shooter to come out on a console. Graphics wise.. Game looks hella fun too..

If they want to complain and nip pick about every little thing in a ps3 game where they hell were they when they reviewed halo 3??? That game had more problems than a crack head and it looked like halo 2..

[Redlight]

Listen, guys, the desperation that's evident in most of these comments is a little hard to take. KZ2 is a videogame, and simply wanting it to be brilliant will not make it so. The quality of this game is not a reflection on you, so why are many of you responding as if your family had been insulted?

It is common for games ON ALL PLATFORMS to look good in video form and turn out to be average. That's the way of the world.

1UP is not running a conspiracy to bring down Sony, don't be so ridiculous.

[DarK-SilV]

I really hate them

[Cure]

if you read the reviews of other shooters that got 9+ they dont complain about why this isnt done or why that is that way...

i think these gamesite ppl that review KZ2 are expecting what they would like to see in a game....and if it doesnt have it they trash talk it.

KZ2 is shaping up 2 be that great where it has ppl riding on the wagon that says " this is the FPS title that will be able to have it all"

KZ1 wasnt bad - its just the hardware of the PS2 couldnt create the visual and ideas of GG

all i know if that it is the best console looking game hands down...nothing shown even comes close and if theres a game that will match it you can beat ur house that itll be created on the PS3 (talking consoles here not PC) and if the gameplay plays like COD4 with abit better features like the hide&peek

then this game will own...i know itll get crappy ratings bc these reviewers expect everything from this title...but all i have to say is that COD4 got 9's so if there was a game that play the exact same/better sound/better graphics...how could it get rated less?

[Meus Renaissance]

I don't know if people listened to the podcast last week on 1UP, but they all agreed that the delays of this game, the length of time and the production budget has raised their expectations and standards for the game. Is that fair? Think about it.

If they feel the game is non-linear, or atleast brings nothing new, then they have the right to feel that way and express it, but at the same time in this industry there is rarely innovation in a crowded genre like the FPS market, and with so many games like Halo 3 and COD4 being so linear and yet being critically acclaimed, you have to wonder - hold up, what's wrong in this picture?

I have to wonder this myself but I have given hope with reviews to be honest. I'll be the judge of these games, KillZone 2 - to me has great aspects about it, and not so great things, alot of which I agreed with this preview but the game is almost a year away from release and I will give it the benefit of the doubt till the release draws nearer and we see and hear more previews about this game. Until then, give 1UP the finger.

[PR0NE]

the middle-finger, right?

[Meus Renaissance]

Well, yeah

[gavrila]

From all videos posted on internet, the game looks boring and linear. A generic FPS in all glory. So they better try harder.

[Rocky87]

The game comes out in 09 ... that's a long way to go.
The preview is simply unfair. They all expect mega-games for the PS3. They point out every little negative aspect. Wait and see KZ2 will burn everything down. I mean look at the pics. It's like the Helghast standing in front of your real rifle. That's amazing.

[zonetrooper5]

Well some people really want this game and others just see this as another generic shooter with great graphics and nothing more to add. Btw, not all of them are fanboys and this is just an opinion so don't get so uptight and angry over this.

[xg-ei8ht]

Crysis, supposedly the best looking game ever had a few bland textures here and there, and? Even parts of the game were poor, inside the spaceship was very poor. I liked the look of the game though.

I don't expect kz2 to look like gow texture wise.

Gow uses the unreal 3 engine and that's how they want the game to look, kinda like ut3 etc.

KZ2 is going for the realistic lighting,shadows,explosions,et c.

And don't get me started on the weapon models or animations, they are the best ingame animations i've seen to date.

You cannot base a judgement off a small part of a game, it's silly. You have to start at the beginning and get into it.

This is in noway a go at the 360.

But i don't remember GOW having much colour? You could get the colour to come out on the pc version. By taking away post processing filters.

I just want to see more of these games.

peace

[ISA_Scum]

Honestly, this "preview" was a joke. If they're going to be saying those type of things about Killzone, they better stay consistent and RIP THE HECK outta Gears 2 or maybe go back and rip Gears 1 because that environment design complaint was pretty apparent for both of those games too. 1UP has sucked for a long time now and I haven't taken that site seriously AT ALL this gen of gaming. Hell, just look what Ubisoft did to them, they completely banned them from doing pre-release reviews. Does that scream credibility?