Wii U Daily: "Nintendo has been struggling to get major third party publishers and developers on board the Wii U train. With the exception of Ubisoft, no other major publisher has supported the Wii U with their latest and greatest games."
This should be Nintendo's FIRST stop to fixing the road for the Wii U. There needs to be a change in marketing and there needs to be some sort of bonus incentive to buying third party games on the Wii U. Granted I know third party has also done its fair share of screwing Nintendo with sloppy ports, lack of planned DLC, or late releases like Watch Dogs being delayed till later this year.
Some sort of talk and sit down needs to happen with third party. A bridge needs to be rebuilt so other developers can cross over and find the Nintendo hardware appealing.
I would also like to state not ALL third party has abandoned Nintendo. Traveler Tales, Ubisoft, Activision, Sega, and a few others are still bringing games to the console this year.
Nintendo also has strong support from Indie Developers. Just because one game failed on there doesn't mean all Indie developers are having the same misfortune.
No they need to fire Reggie first and foremost, he's a deluded jerk, thinking that Wii U will be like the 3DS, he thinks that third parties will just arrive automatically and people will just automatically wake up, rush out and buy a freaking Wii U because Mario Kart will be out. He's the one responsible for all the dead third party support and flop sales in the west.
Seeing as the unit isnt selling in JP...do you want to blame Reggie for that too?
the reason sales are down is appeal. the system has 'some' appealing software but just not enough. the trouble with appeal is it isnt limited to one type of gamer. Each person finds appeal in games differently and the old days of nintendo have been long gone.
From an objective POV the system is quite good. but there are too many who are focused on the in thing of resolution and frames that they are missing out on the good fun games around them, even if those games are on the wii-u.
The blame for poor third party support is Nintendo's fault as a whole. It's not something that can be solely blamed on one person. Multiple developers recited how Nintendo didn't bother reaching out them like Sony and Microsoft. You can't make an console then expect developers magically make games for you. This type of method died during previous generation.
Actually throughout video game history the least powerful and least expensive home video game console always, always, always wins it's generation. Every time. I'm not sure if the anti Nintendo media or Sony fanboys understand but on may 30 Nintendo's gonna drop the bomb Mario Kart 8 is going to put Nintendo BACK in the kicking Sony's ass business. So far this generation all Nintendo first part software releases have looked extremely good controlled well to very well and have been extremely fun to play with no patches required and have utilized a broad band connection in interesting ways. Except for multiplayer. It's cool that the month after MK 8 releases it's straight into e3! I wonder if Nintendo will show Zelda U or Miyamoto's secret game or a new Metroid! It's funny to think by May 31 there could be five million new Miiverse residents. Can't wait!
This morning my boss told me Microsoft was going to stop production of the Xbox 360! I must've looked pretty surprised, I thought he said Xbox One! Poor old Microsoft from second place to last place. That's not very good. How do you spin that? I wonder why the negamedia isn't writing stupid stories about the Xbone's doom? Lol! I know! Late!!!!!
Third parties will never support Wii U. This problem started a looong time ago. As soon as third parties saw a better platform for their games than Nintendo's (Playstation), they jumped ship. Heck even in the NES/SNES days Nintendo's policies severely limited third parties.
The third party audience for Nintendo consoles slowly died when they jumped to Sony/Microsoft, and now there aren't many third party fans left on Nintendo consoles. So despite Nintendo getting rid of their slanted policies, the third party audience on Nintendo consoles is mostly gone at this point from previously inflicted damage.
Tbh I am getting less and less interested in 3rd party games on all platforms. I own a Wiiu and Xbox one and the only 3rd party game I now own is bf4. For me I'm more excited in the exclusives that are coming to all 3 consoles as well as the 3ds. For me 3rd party has started to lose its way in yoy releases in terms of cod, bf, FIFA, nfs etc. I want to see new IP's or IP's have 2 to 3 years off.
I know alot of people buy 3rd party games but I noticed last gen how many great games I was missing out on when getting the next release of a yoy game and also noticing I did not like the yoy games as much too. For me its the 3rd party studios that need o change not Nintendo.
And an increase in WiiU sales with the release of MK8 and Smash will not convince 3rd party devs to take more risks. Nintendo should just accept that if their console presence is to survive, they will have to go it alone, as the Nintendo fanbase is conditioned to rely on Nintendo software. Nintendo was slow in appealing to kids and families, which caused the bulk of them to gravitate towards tablets and iPads. With a reputation of limited online function, limited media function, lack of mature games, and dragging their feet on changing times, Nintendo in the awkward position of continuing to cater to themselves instead of their consumers. This was never a winning strategy.
Nintendo will have to put out as much software as they can to fill the vacuum and hope for the best.
I'm loving WiiU right now, but it's not looking good for the 3rd party games I want to play on the Gamepad.
Watchdogs may be as good as it gets, so I see it as the canary in the coal mine. If Watchdogs on WiiU doesn't do well, then yeah, it's over. Seems all but certain.
Half true. Nintendo fans arent conditioned to only buy nintendo software. just like any other fanbase, they just want good games. 3rd parties, for the most part, are convinced they cannot sell on nintendo platforms and thus put forth little effort compared to other platforms. There are thosr that do see success. Suda51 for example has seen more success on nintendo platforms. The Fatal Frame series has sold better (in the regions they released in lol) on nintendo platforms, even with the first 3 being on a system with a much larger install base. Monster hunter sells well. Bravely Default and the Prof. Layton series saw massive success because they were good games. But i do agree that 3rd parties are basically dead on wii u. That is NOT in any way the fault of the fanbase however. If nintendo wants a 3rd party game, they'll have to buy it. Which i would commend them for, MS did the same and it made the 360 a huge hit and also let companies like Capcom know former PS exclusives like DMC could not only sell on xbox, but sometimes rival the competitor.
we will see.. If mario kart & smash dont help them move systems much, its probably over.. Bayo 2 isnt going to move units very much & sonic didnt do anything for them so theres no telling.. Im happy with mine tho some support would be nice.. I bought it for 1st party games to begin with because there hasnt been any other 3rd party heavy hitters on nintendo consoles for decades.. Handhelds is another story
Alot of poeple may disagree but i belive a big amount of wieght is on mario karts shoulders, everyone loves and plays that game, unlike smash its aset of fans who would invest in it. Mkart gets gamers and cuasuals, so a lot rides on mario kart no pun intended
add the fact that mario kart wii players are now forced to jump to the next one with the recent wifi shut down if they want there mk fix there gona wana jump shift
Wow third party is so over rated. People make such a big fuss about this. Third party is basically games on multiple systems, most gamers i imagine have 2 systems, and wiht out a doubt Nintendo is one of them. It would not make sence to have an x1 and ps4 i honestly dont see the logic in that, its like your trying to figure out which identical twin is prettier, same shit.
Im more preoccupied on Nintendo structure of its gaming. Stronger push for their main games to have online multiplayer, for example Nintendo land oozzed mulitplayer and would of been incredible with online play, stuff like that just dumb found me on Nintendo. Also make a trophy system, thier games work perfectly for that type of dedication and play through, example how fast you beat a level in mario ect...simple small stuff like this could go a long way
You still prove my point, you have a wiiU be it ps4 and X1. I guess I should of emphasized not all games but Some. Not everyone is able to have your situation, that's where I based my point, a game usually has a Nintendo system and the comPetitor
Pretty much. It doesn't help devs laugh at the idea of putting games on the Wiiu.
I hope with Nintendo acquiring more companies, this will fill in the gap between major 1st party games, kind of like what 3rd party games do on the ps4 & 360.
3rd party developers don't care about there fans. exp the nintendo ones zombie U HAS THIS GAME breaking glitch that ubisoft pretty much said there not fixing it cus there fans aren't important enough. so when word spreads of actions like this what do you expect to happen? more sales or less of 3rd party games.
There's no such thing as "giving up". There's only stand-by. The minute the Wii U becomes profitable for Nintendo, third parties will want a piece of the pie.
I doubt the Wii u will ever become profitable nor will third parties want a piece of the pie. They can make much money money from the ps4 and xbone. That and third parties will never just go to Nintendo after years of them ignoring third parties.
This holiday season has to be it or they can call it wraps. I think Mario kart is going to boost sales and people will pick up tropical freeze but if they don't have at least 2 killer titles for x mas or a Zelda game they can say good bye to my money.
Third party developers never even tried to begin with. They have themselves to blame. Especially when developers don't even advertise, or post screenshots or gameplay videos, or anything to make the Wii U's version's existence known.
Blablabla. Nintendo is gonna keep the Wii U as much as Sony keeps the Vita, its a matter of dedication. When i look at the retail shelves, there is as much software for the PS4 as for the Wii U: almost none. Once the big PS4 wave has dried up, developers who dont want or cannot affort next gen development will release their games for PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii U. Or maybe not. I didnt buy the Wii U for Call of Duty, I bought it for Metroid, Zelda, Mario Kart, gonna get Bayonetta 2 and love Zombi U. If they wanna sell like hotcakes they should make the bundle for Mario Kart 50 bucks cheaper and add the driving wheel, that will sell Wii U much better. I for one think that the graphics on the console are just awesome, certainly good enough for most genres, so I hope for HD Nintendo franchises.
People say that nintendo needs to market better to get 3rd party support... they don't have 3rd party support because they don't have the core gaming audience. They don't have the core gaming audience because they (once again) have a system that's a generation behind in hardware specs. They also have an almost non existent online service that's a joke compared to psn/xbl. It's not because of the wii u's marketing or lackthereof, it's because it's hardware we were just on for 8 years. We're ready for bigger and better with these new consoles... that's why we get new systems. Power. The one thing Nintendo always lacks (no pun intended).
Completely disagree, a games console is made to play games, Nintendo make the best quality games that no other console company can match up to. Sony's software is 8 years behind Nintendo.
Only the core gamers have Wii U's, the problem is there ain't many core gamers around these days. Only casuals buy ps4 due to hype.
I don't think Nintendo cares. Furthermore, when a better version of the game exists on the PS4, which is a better platform, (Don't dislike people, my opinion.) nobody is really gonna want to play a 3rd party multiplat on the Wii U, nor did anyone buy a Wii U for 3rd party games in the first place. Had they secured 3rd party treatment a while back, I wouldn't be typing this.
Ports from third parties suck on the Wii U as a common rule anyways, so who cares?
What Nintendo actually needs is exclusives. A small but growing number of exclusives would be better for Nintendo than a bunch of half-assed ports from third parties that just want to slap it onto the console for a quick buck.
So if Nintendo doesn't care, can you honestly blame them? I mean, after shit like Sniper Elite V2 and ME3, the owners of the system certainly don't, and rightly so.
Third parties dug their own grave as far as multiplat ports of photo-realistic games go. They've got no one to blame for us not buying their badly done ports but themselves.
Just pay Rockstar for GTA6 to be Wii-U exclusive, then sales of Wii-U will be fine......Sack Reggie, & his salary can go towards the mountain of cash that will be needed to buy Rockstar's loyalty for one game.
Considering the line-up that the Wii U got during its launch, I think that might be for the better.
At least, as far as multiplatform titles go.
What the Wii U needs, is games designed from the ground up for the system.
That, naturally, is going to mean fewer third party games from the big-names in the long run, but I think it will be better for Nintendo, in the end, than getting half-assed ports of games like The Witcher with no DLC and bad optimization that wouldn't sell well due to the way it was presented to the platform's consumers.
Exclusives are where Nintendo's future lies. That, and Indie games, since they'll be the beginnings of new third party companies in the long run and thus smart to invest in in the here and now.
This should be Nintendo's FIRST stop to fixing the road for the Wii U. There needs to be a change in marketing and there needs to be some sort of bonus incentive to buying third party games on the Wii U. Granted I know third party has also done its fair share of screwing Nintendo with sloppy ports, lack of planned DLC, or late releases like Watch Dogs being delayed till later this year.
Some sort of talk and sit down needs to happen with third party. A bridge needs to be rebuilt so other developers can cross over and find the Nintendo hardware appealing.
I would also like to state not ALL third party has abandoned Nintendo. Traveler Tales, Ubisoft, Activision, Sega, and a few others are still bringing games to the console this year.
Nintendo also has strong support from Indie Developers. Just because one game failed on there doesn't mean all Indie developers are having the same misfortune.
And an increase in WiiU sales with the release of MK8 and Smash will not convince 3rd party devs to take more risks. Nintendo should just accept that if their console presence is to survive, they will have to go it alone, as the Nintendo fanbase is conditioned to rely on Nintendo software. Nintendo was slow in appealing to kids and families, which caused the bulk of them to gravitate towards tablets and iPads. With a reputation of limited online function, limited media function, lack of mature games, and dragging their feet on changing times, Nintendo in the awkward position of continuing to cater to themselves instead of their consumers. This was never a winning strategy.
Nintendo will have to put out as much software as they can to fill the vacuum and hope for the best.
I'm loving WiiU right now, but it's not looking good for the 3rd party games I want to play on the Gamepad.
Watchdogs may be as good as it gets, so I see it as the canary in the coal mine.
If Watchdogs on WiiU doesn't do well, then yeah, it's over. Seems all but certain.
We can only hope for the best!
we will see.. If mario kart & smash dont help them move systems much, its probably over.. Bayo 2 isnt going to move units very much & sonic didnt do anything for them so theres no telling.. Im happy with mine tho some support would be nice.. I bought it for 1st party games to begin with because there hasnt been any other 3rd party heavy hitters on nintendo consoles for decades.. Handhelds is another story
Wow third party is so over rated. People make such a big fuss about this. Third party is basically games on multiple systems, most gamers i imagine have 2 systems, and wiht out a doubt Nintendo is one of them. It would not make sence to have an x1 and ps4 i honestly dont see the logic in that, its like your trying to figure out which identical twin is prettier, same shit.
Im more preoccupied on Nintendo structure of its gaming. Stronger push for their main games to have online multiplayer, for example Nintendo land oozzed mulitplayer and would of been incredible with online play, stuff like that just dumb found me on Nintendo. Also make a trophy system, thier games work perfectly for that type of dedication and play through, example how fast you beat a level in mario ect...simple small stuff like this could go a long way