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Have third party publishers finally given up on Wii U?

Wii U Daily: "Nintendo has been struggling to get major third party publishers and developers on board the Wii U train. With the exception of Ubisoft, no other major publisher has supported the Wii U with their latest and greatest games."

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DryBoneKoopa854137d ago

This should be Nintendo's FIRST stop to fixing the road for the Wii U. There needs to be a change in marketing and there needs to be some sort of bonus incentive to buying third party games on the Wii U. Granted I know third party has also done its fair share of screwing Nintendo with sloppy ports, lack of planned DLC, or late releases like Watch Dogs being delayed till later this year.

Some sort of talk and sit down needs to happen with third party. A bridge needs to be rebuilt so other developers can cross over and find the Nintendo hardware appealing.

I would also like to state not ALL third party has abandoned Nintendo. Traveler Tales, Ubisoft, Activision, Sega, and a few others are still bringing games to the console this year.

Nintendo also has strong support from Indie Developers. Just because one game failed on there doesn't mean all Indie developers are having the same misfortune.

Rustynail4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

No they need to fire Reggie first and foremost, he's a deluded jerk, thinking that Wii U will be like the 3DS, he thinks that third parties will just arrive automatically and people will just automatically wake up, rush out and buy a freaking Wii U because Mario Kart will be out. He's the one responsible for all the dead third party support and flop sales in the west.

darthv724137d ago

Seeing as the unit isnt selling in JP...do you want to blame Reggie for that too?

the reason sales are down is appeal. the system has 'some' appealing software but just not enough. the trouble with appeal is it isnt limited to one type of gamer. Each person finds appeal in games differently and the old days of nintendo have been long gone.

From an objective POV the system is quite good. but there are too many who are focused on the in thing of resolution and frames that they are missing out on the good fun games around them, even if those games are on the wii-u.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory4137d ago

uh Reggie doesn't make decision for Nintendo. Iwata and Miyamoto does.

Reggie is only in charge of America.

If western publishers doesn't want to support oh well. Nintendo of America is just gonna allow more indies and small studios shine.

zeal0us4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

The blame for poor third party support is Nintendo's fault as a whole. It's not something that can be solely blamed on one person. Multiple developers recited how Nintendo didn't bother reaching out them like Sony and Microsoft.
You can't make an console then expect developers magically make games for you. This type of method died during previous generation.

AJBACK2FRAG4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

Actually throughout video game history the least powerful and least expensive home video game console always, always, always wins it's generation. Every time. I'm not sure if the anti Nintendo media or Sony fanboys understand but on may 30 Nintendo's gonna drop the bomb Mario Kart 8 is going to put Nintendo BACK in the kicking Sony's ass business. So far this generation all Nintendo first part software releases have looked extremely good controlled well to very well and have been extremely fun to play with no patches required and have utilized a broad band connection in interesting ways. Except for multiplayer. It's cool that the month after MK 8 releases it's straight into e3! I wonder if Nintendo will show Zelda U or Miyamoto's secret game or a new Metroid! It's funny to think by May 31 there could be five million new Miiverse residents. Can't wait!

This morning my boss told me Microsoft was going to stop production of the Xbox 360! I must've looked pretty surprised, I thought he said Xbox One! Poor old Microsoft from second place to last place. That's not very good. How do you spin that? I wonder why the negamedia isn't writing stupid stories about the Xbone's doom? Lol! I know! Late!!!!!

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ZainreFang4137d ago

Third parties will never support Wii U. This problem started a looong time ago. As soon as third parties saw a better platform for their games than Nintendo's (Playstation), they jumped ship. Heck even in the NES/SNES days Nintendo's policies severely limited third parties.

The third party audience for Nintendo consoles slowly died when they jumped to Sony/Microsoft, and now there aren't many third party fans left on Nintendo consoles. So despite Nintendo getting rid of their slanted policies, the third party audience on Nintendo consoles is mostly gone at this point from previously inflicted damage.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

uh no.
Nintendo Seal of Quality was to prevent BROKEN games
on their platforms.

The problem was
N64 not having CD.
FFVII was N64 before PS1
Cartridges were expensives

GC problem was MiniDVD and not fully online support though it had online.
Nintendo Optical Disc 1.5GB

Both N64 and GC were powerhouse hardware.

With Wii Nintendo wanted to bring more people into gaming so they introduce Motion Controls on whole new level.

Nintendo has the most Third Parties as a whole because of handheld.

mcstorm4137d ago

Tbh I am getting less and less interested in 3rd party games on all platforms. I own a Wiiu and Xbox one and the only 3rd party game I now own is bf4. For me I'm more excited in the exclusives that are coming to all 3 consoles as well as the 3ds. For me 3rd party has started to lose its way in yoy releases in terms of cod, bf, FIFA, nfs etc. I want to see new IP's or IP's have 2 to 3 years off.

I know alot of people buy 3rd party games but I noticed last gen how many great games I was missing out on when getting the next release of a yoy game and also noticing I did not like the yoy games as much too. For me its the 3rd party studios that need o change not Nintendo.

Benjaminkno4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

And an increase in WiiU sales with the release of MK8 and Smash will not convince 3rd party devs to take more risks. Nintendo should just accept that if their console presence is to survive, they will have to go it alone, as the Nintendo fanbase is conditioned to rely on Nintendo software. Nintendo was slow in appealing to kids and families, which caused the bulk of them to gravitate towards tablets and iPads. With a reputation of limited online function, limited media function, lack of mature games, and dragging their feet on changing times, Nintendo in the awkward position of continuing to cater to themselves instead of their consumers. This was never a winning strategy.

Nintendo will have to put out as much software as they can to fill the vacuum and hope for the best.

I'm loving WiiU right now, but it's not looking good for the 3rd party games I want to play on the Gamepad.

Watchdogs may be as good as it gets, so I see it as the canary in the coal mine.
If Watchdogs on WiiU doesn't do well, then yeah, it's over. Seems all but certain.

Concertoine4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

Half true. Nintendo fans arent conditioned to only buy nintendo software. just like any other fanbase, they just want good games. 3rd parties, for the most part, are convinced they cannot sell on nintendo platforms and thus put forth little effort compared to other platforms. There are thosr that do see success. Suda51 for example has seen more success on nintendo platforms. The Fatal Frame series has sold better (in the regions they released in lol) on nintendo platforms, even with the first 3 being on a system with a much larger install base. Monster hunter sells well. Bravely Default and the Prof. Layton series saw massive success because they were good games.
But i do agree that 3rd parties are basically dead on wii u. That is NOT in any way the fault of the fanbase however. If nintendo wants a 3rd party game, they'll have to buy it. Which i would commend them for, MS did the same and it made the 360 a huge hit and also let companies like Capcom know former PS exclusives like DMC could not only sell on xbox, but sometimes rival the competitor.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory4137d ago

Exactly we Nintendo fans buy quality games. We know when we see it. Most which are Nintendo and exclusive third parties games.

Hardtarget4137d ago

We can only hope for the best!

DivineAssault 4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

we will see.. If mario kart & smash dont help them move systems much, its probably over.. Bayo 2 isnt going to move units very much & sonic didnt do anything for them so theres no telling.. Im happy with mine tho some support would be nice.. I bought it for 1st party games to begin with because there hasnt been any other 3rd party heavy hitters on nintendo consoles for decades.. Handhelds is another story

link2Dpast4137d ago

Alot of poeple may disagree but i belive a big amount of wieght is on mario karts shoulders, everyone loves and plays that game, unlike smash its aset of fans who would invest in it. Mkart gets gamers and cuasuals, so a lot rides on mario kart no pun intended

Justindark4137d ago

add the fact that mario kart wii players are now forced to jump to the next one with the recent wifi shut down if they want there mk fix there gona wana jump shift

link2Dpast4137d ago

Wow third party is so over rated. People make such a big fuss about this. Third party is basically games on multiple systems, most gamers i imagine have 2 systems, and wiht out a doubt Nintendo is one of them. It would not make sence to have an x1 and ps4 i honestly dont see the logic in that, its like your trying to figure out which identical twin is prettier, same shit.

Im more preoccupied on Nintendo structure of its gaming. Stronger push for their main games to have online multiplayer, for example Nintendo land oozzed mulitplayer and would of been incredible with online play, stuff like that just dumb found me on Nintendo. Also make a trophy system, thier games work perfectly for that type of dedication and play through, example how fast you beat a level in mario ect...simple small stuff like this could go a long way

KevinCubes4137d ago

Not true so basicly I don't want to limit myself to just GOW or Halo so I got both ps4 and xbone along with a Wii U

link2Dpast4137d ago

You still prove my point, you have a wiiU be it ps4 and X1. I guess I should of emphasized not all games but Some. Not everyone is able to have your situation, that's where I based my point, a game usually has a Nintendo system and the comPetitor

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While Layoffs Hit the Industry, Nintendo Retains 98% of Staff Including 78 With Disabilities

TNS: Based on its most recent ESG data, Nintendo boasts a remarkably low staff turnover rate of just 1.9%, with virtually no reported layoffs.

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Jin_Sakai2d ago

Because Nintendo makes great games.

Yesyes1d 5h ago

It’s unreal that people are downvoting this when they consistently have the best scoring games on metacritic.

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rlow12d ago

Well it doesn’t surprise me. As much money as they make and how they value their employees. It’s a great company in that regard.

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drivxr1d 21h ago

Well, when your games remain full price many years after release.

And you make profit off of outdated hardware.

I would be shocked if they couldn't afford to retain their staff.

lodossrage1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

I didn't want to say anything but drivxr is right.

Nintendo always sells at a profit because they purposely use tech that's always 5 or more years behind. And it's also true their games hardly ever get price decreases.

Don't get me wrong, it's great they kept most of their workforce, but making a point to have your tech specs behind everyone else affords that luxury.

Darkegg1d 16h ago

I don’t think it’s their purpose to use old tech. It’s their purpose to make value of software and know their value. Nobody makes games like them that’s for sure. I just don’t appreciate their customer unfriendly policy.

It’s not impossible to take their status. Companies need to have a selection of 8-bit and 16-bit. Now imagine a split screen for 8 player game for SNES Mario kart and selling at $9.99. The problem is that it doesn’t make profit. So many companies won’t invest in “old” technology. Everyone guns for triple AAA modern technology software but honestly we can enjoy modernized 16-bit creative ideas that allows 8-player mayhem. It’s a pipe dream, possible but impossible.

Shane Kim1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

If they ended up kicking people out after all of that stated above, it would be truly shameful.

DivineHand1251d 13h ago

Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla and Meta are all trillion dollar companies yet they are laying people off in large numbers.

I believe the reason Nintendo layoffs off less workers may be a result of their culture. It seems Japanese companies believe in giving their workers long term or life long employment opportunities and will exhaust all options before laying off workers. This is something we don't see much of in the west unfortunately.

Rdeal1d 6h ago

might be something to do with the fact all those companies hire more than 20x the employees than Nintendo

LoveSpuds1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

What the hell are you talking about? It has nothing to do with how profitable they are. Its completely cultural, MS and Sony make stacks of cash and still lay folks off. Nintendo chose not to lay off staff for the same reason their execs took pay cuts to increase staff pay instead; because they value their staff and view them as colleagues, and respect them as such.

If Sony weren't so US centric I fancy they'd fare better too, they should get shot of US and European leadership and go back to when Japanese execs were running the show if you ask me!

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai23d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7222d ago (Edited 22d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX22d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK22d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog22d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor22d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje22d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra22d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje22d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac22d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex22d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje22d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter21d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake22d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos22d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8622d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos22d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8622d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr21d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8621d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2322d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos22d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker22d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg22d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake22d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr21d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B22d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Report: Inside Ubisoft's Project Renaissance, a Cancelled Minecraft-Like Voxel Game

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