Why the Future Doesn’t Look Good for the Xbox One

Alex St-Amour from 3GEM writes: 'Despite the bright colors of Microsoft’s advertising, the grass is definitely not green over on the Xbox One’s side of the fence. The last console to enter the 8th generation race roared out of the gate this past November with an impressive launch, but its momentum has since petered out; now it’s being left behind by its chief competitor, Sony’s PlayStation 4. So why have Microsoft’s fortunes reversed so dramatically, and what have does the future hold for the Xbox One?'

[Axios2]

I always laugh at these articles

Sony provided figures for past console sales to show how the PS4 was outselling all previous gen PS consoles

This Sony did to show that PS4 is selling well

Fact of matter, Sony's figures show X1 also outselling EVERY previous gem PS console.

So unless

PS1
PS2
PS3

were failures, then the X1 is selling very well

The funniest part will be to see what the fanboys say about "recent sales" in March

PlayStation:
=4 months (one territory) – March 31st, 1995 – 0.85 million
-10 months – September 30th, 1995 – 1.77 million
-16 months – March 31st, 1996 – 4.26 million
-22 months – September 30th, 1996 – 8.07 million
-28 months – March 31st, 1997 – 13.50 million

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PS2:
1 month (one territory) – March 31st, 2000 – 1.41 million
7 months (one territory) – September 30th, 2000 – 3.52 million
13 months – March 31st, 2001 – 10.61 million
19 months – September 30th, 2001 – 19.58 million
22 months – December 30th, 2001 – 24.99 million

PS3:
1 month – December 31st, 2006 – 1.7 million
4 months – March 31st, 2007 – 3.5 million
7 months – June 30th, 2007 – 4.2 million
10 months – September 30th, 2007 – 5.5 million
13 months – December 31st, 2007 – 10.4 million

@ Lukas

http://www.gamingenthusiast...

SONY POSTED the numbers to show how well the pS4 is selling, it also shows how well the X1 is selling

Bignfhooter needs to do some research:

http://www.gameinformer.com...

360 outsold PS3 in 2008, 2010 (even), 2011

[GarrusVakarian]

http://www.quickmeme.com/im...

[doolin_dalton]

Yet again you have no FACTUAL rebuttal, so you simply attack Axios2.

His post is 100% accurate, and is a major reason to believe that the future of Xbox One looks good.

[Eonjay]

LOL. These figures mean nothing because the Wii U also had a bigger launch than PS1,PS2 or PS3. These figure are meant to be as barometer for launch performance and nothing else. For example, the PS3 had a bigger 1 month launch than the PS2, and yet the PS2 outsold the PS3 by 70 million units.

[Kingthrash360]

smh...let it gooooo. please just....-.-
refer to meme above.

[BitbyDeath]

Difference is Xbox sales dropped off a cliff in January and February isn't looking much better.

Who knows what'll happen in March though, will be interesting.

[christocolus]

@Axios

Nice info. I never actually thought about it that way.

Ontopic: i believe ms will turn things around like sony did with the ps3. They already seem to be going in the right direction and the increasing ps4 numbers will only put more pressure on ms to keep doing all it takes to get more gamers on board and that should be good for fans. Im really looking forward to their E3 conference this year.they need to come out guns blazing and im sure they will.

[BigFnHooters]

"i believe ms will turn things around like sony did with the ps3."

The PS3 has outsold the Xbox 360 every single year its been on the market including the very first.

So, yeah, LOL...

[Majin-vegeta]

PS3=more expensive stronger hardware

Xbone=Weaker hardware more expensivve

See the difference???

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/...

[doolin_dalton]

"i believe ms will turn things around like sony did with the ps3"

That's very likely. After all, it's a marathon, not a sprint as many here want to believe. I believe the future is good for the Xbox One, and I use historical FACTS to support my opinion.

"The PS3 has outsold the Xbox 360 every single year its been on the market including the very first."

Repeating a lie over and over will not magically make it come true.

[scott182]

Just the fact that a $200 more expensive console outsold the 360 most months tells me they didn't need to turn anything around with the PS3, it even outsells the X1 now.

I don't like these doom and gloom articles though, they are ridiculous, the X1 will be fine.

[Muerte2494]

Facts:
*Xbox has lost every generation to a Playstation since xbox's existence
*Xbox 360 started with a year of the market to itself
*PS3 was stronger than Xbox 360 but harder to program for
*Sony first party studios showed the power behind PS3
*Microsoft's 1st party portfolio is only a fraction of Sony 1st party
*RROD wasn't covered under warranty until June 2007 (Xbox 360 launched November 25,2005)
*Xbox 360 maintained the price advantage throughout the generation
*Microsoft generally buys exclusives eg(Titanfall,Dead Rising 3, Halo,Gears of War, Ryse) rather than produce them (made by 3rd party studios
*Playstion brand is stronger than the Xbox in video games
*Sony didn't 180 on Bluray even though, at the time, then knew the drives were expensive to produce.
*Microsoft chose not to make HD-DVD drives built into Xbox360 for games, ultimately costing them the format war

In conclusion, Microsoft is not Sony. Sony was able to do what the did because of their brand and their enormous first party studios. Microsoft has neither of those things over Sony or Nintendo for that matter. But nobody can deny the impact that Xbox Live has made on video games, and for that I WILL tip my hat to Microsoft.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

I disagree PS3 always had the world wide appeal. Xbox doesn't and it needs that more than ever with America being taken away

[UncleGermrod]

Funny, you are stating facts, and people just don't like it. Cheers man

[djplonker]

I had 5 different xbox's three red ringed and the other two dont read discs unless you open and close the tray alot (I counted 200 times on gta v at launch) and my friends that had 360's have all replaced atleast one...

You can say that the xbone is selling just aswell as the ps 1 , 2 and 3 but the ps3 was more expensive even with out inflation and back in 1996-2005 gaming was less mainstream and sony had to compete with some of the best consoles of all time (inc ps ps2 of course!) like the n64 or dreamcast no one is going to look back on the xbox the same way unless it is compaired to the death of sega.... atleast thats the way it is heading!

450,000

V

58,000

And one is "sold out" the numbers dont lie this generation is already set in stone its just who will be second microsoft or nintendo!

[ThePope]

Set in stone? Haha nothing is set in stone.

[Illionaire]

You want to compare numbers. Look at the recent numbers.

The Xbox One is barely outselling the Wii U and PS Vita worldwide, which are both considered failures. With 20x the advertising budget.

The first consoles are bought by hardcores and fanboys. The Wii U had a great launch. Then had a major drop off, like the Xbox One.

[jmc8888]

@axios

People think Sony and Microsoft...wow big console players. Well back then Sony was seen as the upstart that might not know what it's doing against the veterans at Sega and Nintendo. So some people waited to see what Nintendo was offering.

This is a big deal because if Joe Blow made cars, would you buy one? I don't know, how good of cars can Joe Blow make and will he be around to service them a few years from now? When a new company enters the market, even if they are named Sony, there is some hesitation early on by not knowing what to expect. You also see this with the OG Xbox. People trusted PS2 brand and knew what it was all about.

PS2 was supply constrained, but it shows you how many people wanted a Playstation 2 to see how fast it grew. 10 million in about the first year. People loved what Playstation offered.

PS3 is a very mixed bag. It debuted at a nosebleed price of $599, but on the flip side, was also a major deal. Why? It depends on who you were. If you were a gamer who had an HDTV and wanted to buy blu-rays it was by FAR the cheapest solution. So some people saw it as nosebleed and others saw it as a deal. The XB1 offers no such proposition. No one sees the XB1 as a great deal.

Blu-ray players went for $849-999 at the same time a PS3 was on shelves for $599. Me personally I had an HDTV and wanted a blu ray player AND a gaming console. Especially after already having a RRoD with my 360 I wanted some redundancy console wise.

So $599 was worth it to me. I was buying a cheap blu-ray player that also happened to be a gaming console with all of what Sony brings. The firmware could also be updated, so in this sense it was the best blu-ray player on the market, since unlike the more expensive blu-ray only players it was internet connected for firmware updates. So you knew the PS3 blu-ray feature would be updated, unlike the $999 super primo ones which wouldn't. Like with 3D support. Those early $1000 blu-ray players never supported them.

If you just wanted a gaming console, then yeah, it was nose bleed high. It just depended on what you were looking at the console for. Sony's arrogance about getting a 2nd job didn't help as well. But people were excited about the exclusive games, the blu-rays, free online, and the potential power of the cell (which was overhyped and hard to use, but unlike ANYTHING the XB1 has, it actually was untapped power, and it was tapped).

Now we'll skip ahead to the XB1. XB1 wasn't supply constrained. We've been seeing how many people want an XB1 because everyone has had a chance to buy one if they want.

Microsoft pissed everyone off 100x more then Sony. I don't care how much outrage Sony caused at the launch of the PS3, the XB1 disaster was a rolling sideshow for months. It's been coming from anyone related to MS that has opened their mouth. From January 2013 until the present it's been one fiasco after another. From rumors of DRM, always on, no trading discs to the performance of various games now. The outright lies of cloud power, that they weren't underpowered, to the denials of all the rumors until they revealed all the rumors to be true, etc, etc.

Microsoft simply can't get good press that isn't shilling for it. This is what you see. Xbox One another disaster. Or Xbox One is the best because of the Cloud, Kinect, etc. It's insane.

[jmc8888]

Microsoft doesn't realize how badly it damaged it's image. It's one thing to think so highly of your product you ask people to do something unreasonable to buy your great product. That's one thing.

It's another to give the middle finger to your customer base and claim it's all for their own benefit. Not just once, but about so many things, consistently, for over a year and still are.

It's not even close. People feel betrayed by MS. They feel used. They feel small and unimportant. They know they are being lied to, hearing PR spin, and still getting screwed.

Worse yet when you look at how they are marketing the console, it sure isn't to you. But some person who isn't satisfied with their cable/satellite service and need something else along with Kinect which people tried on the 360 and said...this sucks. Then on top of that, you were forced into this NSA spy device and they barely have any games for it. Everyone knows it's weaker and yet it's all more expensive. They may like XBox live service better, but people REALLY like free games with PS+.

Then when you look out over the horizon, what do you see? Exclusive 1st party games? Nope. You see an almost non-existent 1st party dev list, and some of that is tasked with games you know you'll never buy because they are Kinect based.

Microsoft has so alienated their fanbase, it's going to be near impossible to get them back this generation. There's no blu-ray fallback. There's no Cell to tap. There's no commitment to 1st party devs. Just a commitment to Kinect, which almost no one wants.

All the crazy things they blame on their customers and meanwhile show they haven't learned well enough how pissed off people are with their sycophant comments as if none of the crapstorm ever happened.

Now they can sway alot of people, including myself, if they just do the following. Massively drop the price to $299, which is the point where I start to consider it given it's horrible gaming tech. Then provide content no one else can with 1st party games, ALOT of them. When I can buy Halo 5, and have a choice of about a dozen other exclusives of similar quality, then I will most likely buy one. But I'm also a minority type gamer, the kind that likes to get all the consoles and keep a good PC. Of course I don't expect those exclusives to come out for a few years, so I don't expect to get an XB1 for a few years.

So now let's bring all the way back to those numbers. Your argument weaves through all these areas trying to showcase that the Xbox One can do the same and comeback just based on those launch numbers, with no real context, and it's true Xbox One can eventually become more liked, but unlike the examples you give me, there are major differences of how those numbers played out like they do, and none of them favor XB1 in the slightest.

[jmc8888]

People aren't buzzing about the XB1 like they were any of those other consoles. It's a pariah right now. Overpriced. Underpowered. It's a focal point for companies crapping on their fanbase. We're in a depression, and it's going to get worse economically. People are pissed off. They're pissed off in general, let alone at a company that thinks they're stupid. Just about every time Microsoft opens their mouth it makes the people hearing it feel stupid. We average folks know we're being lied to about EVERYTHING. Microsoft added themselves to that list with the way everything has and still is being handled. In a time of US versus THEM, Microsoft has chosen to be THEM. Not good.

These are all reasons people don't want to touch the console. Throw in some NSA revelations, and the fact that Xbox One will receive near universal poorer iterations of every game, and it's not likely it's going to behave like those other consoles showcased.

Most gamers tried the Kinect, and thought it sucked. Everyone knows you shouldn't force this on everyone and make it an option. But Microsoft won't budge, and so this stance reiterates everything Microsoft did wrong early on. Every time someone thinks, why don't they just take out Kinect and lower the price...it reinforces all the DRM, used game, always on stuff.

Far more better consoles have failed for much, much less. Price issues. Game issues. Perception issues. You can't get any worse then that. People see Microsoft's PR people and think a used car guy is trying to sell them a lemon.

At least the PS3 had extra power, free online, and a commitment to 1st party devs.

The XB1 doesn't have the extra power, doesn't have free online, and where are the 1st party devs? We're looking at late 2015 and late 2016 for their two announced heavy hitters of Halo 5 and Gears.

Meanwhile they've had over a year to gauge the reaction to their policies, because yes, once the rumors came out over a year ago now, they were clued in to how all these policies were going to play out from the public's standpoint, and should have ditched all the horrible policies, and start/acquired more devs.

Did they spend this past year creating and buying new devs? Not really. So they aren't even showing their audience that things will get better. How? Where are the devs to deliver outstanding games as a reason to buy the XB1 above all others? They don't exist. The only way the XB1 has better games is if they have games the others don't have. Because if it's on other platforms it's 3rd best behind PC and PS4.

[jmc8888]

Finally you have all the whispers of Xbox going away. From the #truthfact that some major investors want Microsoft to ditch it. To the #truthfact that Elop once mentioned that if he was CEO of Microsoft he would consider spinning it off. You see the sales charts, and yes it should have people wondering. Is this why they aren't acquiring more devs?

..and as a sideshow everyone has fresh in their minds a certain console that is also failing hard to sell itself to people, the Wii U. It's natural to project...can this happen to the Xbox One if I buy it? Yes it can. While probably not as bad as long as Microsoft owns the XBox brand, if the price of the XB1 stays high it won't be that much better.

Wii U owners know Nintendo will bring them their 1st party IP's and they are numerous, even if very, very slow out of the gate. What does Microsoft have besides Halo and Gears in the works? Could they even if they wanted to given the lack of devs under their stable? They are looking even SLOWER out of the gate then the Wii U...but at least they have the 3rd party multiplatform games...except they are all lesser performing versions. So it is kind of similar. If you won't buy 3rd party games on the XB1 because you will on a PS4 or PC, or you simply chose an PS4 because you knew this, what do you have on the XB1? Only first and second party games are eligible, and if you compare first party to first party between Nintendo and Microsoft, Nintendo's releases are far more numerous in their first 15 or so months then Microsoft's will be on the XB1.

I don't want Microsoft to fail. I hope they learn a good lesson and come back strong. But I don't see HOW they come back other then massively lowering the price and in a few years, IF they commit to creating/buying devs to pump out games a few years from NOW, I don't see them having a shot. If they indeed do this, I still don't see a great shot. I see them hanging around and perhaps worth buying, but overtake the PS4? No. They've pissed off too many people, the games most people play will never be best on XB1, and as long as Kinect/Price are not decidedly in their favor it will be a massive headwind.

But they can be competitive...in a behind 2:1 ratio way. Still there. Have it's exclusives. But ONLY if they commit to it being competitive. They are still hanging onto their utopia all-in-one vision, and this E3 we'll see concretely how this generation will go.

Are they acquiring devs behind the scenes quiet like? Do they announce a massive price cut and removing of Kinect? Do they commit as a company to the Xbox brand, from their new CEO that the Xbox One will be supported heavily with new IP and exclusive games through the end of the decade? Proven by early looks at about ten brand new AA or AAA IP's.

Because if E3 doesn't have most or all of these, then Microsoft's Xbox division is in even deeper trouble then it currently is in and instead of comparing the XB1 launch and thinking it will grow like past Sony launches, you'll soon be comparing the XB1 to the sales of failed consoles.

[jmc8888]

I don't care if Sony used the method, it's a faulty one.

Using a total number units sold when those launches were supply constrained as a comparison between launches is not a valid metric.

That said they sold the most and are still supply constrained, so in a sense, the PS4 numbers tend to be a little more valid because they sold more plus were supply constrained. But it is still a faulty comparison. Yeah these other past consoles might have sold more then they did if they had more supply, but only the PS4 and not the XB1 can also say that.

We know the PS4 is up there however because it not only is selling out, but it flipped the market share in Microsoft's top two territories. U.S. and U.K.

Also you have to look at what drove the console sales, and the narrative. I'm not sure how old you are, but I was in high school when Playstation came out. It was like a lightning bolt.

Back in the 90's the cost was very much akin to the $499 of XB1 even though it was at a much lower price point. If you factor in inflation, REAL INFLATION, not the fake government numbers adjusted with hedonics. Then with release after release people just kept lapping them up. But some people held out until they saw what the N64 was offering.

You see Nintendo used to be the hardcore gaming console, which Sega Genesis sort of wrestled away from Nintendo, but not really. More like an even split. But the headstart it had over the SNES played a big role in that. So while a lot liked Playstation, they didn't offer Mario and many people were loyal to Nintendo. But when the N64 debuted, as good as some games were, the Playstation compared favorably.

When the Playstation and N64 went head to head, Playstation had the cheap and easily manufactured disc based games rather then the hella expensive and harder to manufacture cartridge games. Playstation had the cheaper unit, more games, they cost less, and were in plentiful supply. Not to mention the whole mature gaming aspect. N64 had hilariously high priced games that were hard to find.

But still PS1 when it first was released was a new thing, people didn't know what to expect, and it was also a very crowded market. You also had 3D0 and Saturn to contend with along with a strong base that was only 3-4-5 years old of SNES and Genesis userbase.

[classic19]

@axios. your point bro?

[Chevalier]

It's also fact that every Xbox console has lost to PS. Wii U had a big launch and where is it now? 46 million 360 were sold in NA and now PS4 with apparently NO games is destroying Xbox One. Is being outsold this early by PS3 good? Please try to spin that too. It is being outsold in every market which is FACT. No numbers you post explain the huge drop in demand. Even if they moved 200,000-300,000 they would be still be over 2 million behind.

[Ra3030]

"Yet again you have no FACTUAL rebuttal, so you simply attack Axios2.

His post is 100% accurate, and is a major reason to believe that the future of Xbox One looks good."

Well now.....I have a rebuttal.....IMO what fanboys on both sides are missing is first what some console did10 yrs ago means nothing today. The only thing that matters is and it's not what I think or what you think. The only thing that matters is what's going on inside the Microsoft boardroom. The X1 came out smoking hot the first 6 weeks but since then and we're talking the last 8 week the X1 has been performing less than poorly and that might be an over statement.
The only thing that boardroom cares about is this....."What have you done for ME lately"!
We all know that half or maybe even more than half of the shareholders want to sale at least the X1 hardware division. Why? There's no money in it. Needless to say the X1 gaming division has everything riding on Titanfall and March. They don't need to sell 3 million consoles and even the sales numbers with Sony but they need to sell a lot. And who knows maybe it's already to late and their going to sale the hardware off soon anyway and they want to move as many as possible before they dump it. That boardroom as a whole was never all in on the X1 from the start. All these crazy deals you see now with price cuts, game give always are to get the ball rolling but they are losing lots of money as a trade off to make those offers. Really you could say their throwing money at it hoping to fix the problem and "it" is a bottomless hole. No one knows what will happen but March will be fun to watch.

[chrisarsenalsavart]

2010? And 2011?
In N.A. Only but worldwide in your dreams only

[gamer2013]

Don't worry yourself about it. This site is full of insecure, immature and irrational fanboys who are afraid of any positive facts that favor the X1. Time is on Microsoft's side, they have the money and the exclusives so we shall see. Just leave it at that.

[Gamer1982]

Only outsold the previous playstations launch day because consoles are more widely bought now and believe it or not there are more people on the earth! Since launch though the numbers have dropped to WiiU numbers in fact even the WiiU launch numbers were amazing (3 million sold in first 2 months) and now people are calling that a failure as after launch month the sales dropped HEAVILY. Thats whats happened with the Xbox One unlike the PS4 which is STILL selling out everywhere..

However its still selling well enough to make a decent profit the only issue is with PS4 running away 3rd partys are gonna choose ps4 for there exclusives as its a safer bet.. Thats when sales are gonna dwindle to a non selling well point.

[3-4-5]

-22 months – September 30th, 1996 – 8.07 million
-28 months – March 31st, 1997 – 13.50 million

in 6 months PS1 doubled it's consoles sold.

You really think XB1 is doing that EVER ?

[CharlesSwann]

That is a lot of typing to hide from the truth.

[OSIRUSSS]

MS investors should just close down the XBOX division! MS should just task efforts to the OS sector.

[Saito]

The future for gaming looks good. Success prevails all!

[bennissimo]

Second best launch of any console, ever.

Yup. Horrible.

The only folks who "win" this console generation are those who purchase both.

Anyone who goes on about how "MS sucks" this and "X1 will fail" that is delusional and will miss out on great games.

That's like saying the PS4 sucks because its launch games sucked and the only decent exclusives it has between now and 2015 are inFAMOUS and indies. Might be true, but it doesn't matter. Because you should own both.

Just like last gen.

[Mexxan]

No this is spot on. Had Ps4 at launch, and picked up an X1 last week. Great games, big smiles....

[IG-88]

Second best?
if you're not first you're last!!! :P

I think it has to do with the PS4 doing so well that it is making the Xbox One looks like it is doing worse than it is doing.

I would say that Deep Down and The Order 1886 look like they could be really good IPs that are said to come out this year.

[MysticStrummer]

"The only folks who "win" this console generation are those who purchase both."

Anyone who's happy with their purchase, whether it's one console or all of them, wins.

[H0RSE]

I always found the co0nsole war so utterly pointless. Picking sides based on which platform you play video games on, and slinging insults at the competition? Are we 5?...

[iceman06]

I think that you are correct. The future for MS and the Xbox One looks good...just not great yet. The PS4 is killing it, but we all know how fickle a console generation can be. One small step could land either one of these consoles in a heap of trouble.
All in all, I'm just happy to have a choice of where I want to game...whether it be Xbox, PS, both, or Neither. It's good for the overall health of the industry.

[jessupj]

Wouldn't matter if the xbone had the best launch in history, the fact is sales have dramatically decreased.

You think MS would be in panic mode and price cutting their console and giving away their best seller 3 months after launch if they were happy with sales?

You people keep harping on about launch, but it's the sales trend that is infinitely more important.

I know the doom and gloom articles get a bit annoying. Any level headed gamer knows the xbone isn't going anywhere, but I know MS are not happy with the current sales trend.

[chrisarsenalsavart]

Better yet get a ps4 and a WIIU cause most Xbox exclusives usually ends on PlayStation or pc anyway.

[bennissimo]

PC gaming sucks.

[Sharius]

i feel funny whenever i see any comment about "console war is the marathon race" which is said by any xbox fanboy

let me tell you 1 truth, if anyone is worthy enough to talk about "marathon race" is sony, just see how PS3 when it just came out, and compare with the PS3 today, still living and kick out exclusive after exclusive, and on the track to hit 100 million world wide soon

if you give PS3 year or 2 i belive it will out sell Wii on total sale world wide

same thing will happen for PS4, sony have the track record of support thier own console for the long time, only different that, now xbone dont have 1 year ahead of PS4 like 360 did before

[paulcek]

People keep saying that PS3 will be able to reach Wii numbers, which is highly unlikely at this point because the PS4 is out. After a year or two from now, sales of PS3 will probably drop significantly because people will choose to buy the PS4. Even if it does reach wii numbers, it won't just take a year or two like you said.

PS3 needs ~20 million more sales to overtake the Wii and the sales are already slowing down:
Comparison:
Feb 23 2013 -> ~178000 sales
Feb 22 2014 -> ~60000 sales
-This is vgcharts, so add like 10000-20000 to those numbers lol

In 2013, PS3 sold approximately 8-9 million.
Let's say they do that again this year (unlikely), then they are at 90 million.
Then let's say that they do it again (even more unlikely), they are about 99 million.
Even without drops in sales, it would take a little over 2 years to reach 100 million.

A more realistic look would to say that the PS3 sells an average of 120,000 globally a week (which is being generous, that's around 6 million per year), it would take 20,000,000 / 120,000 = ~167 weeks to catch up or 3 years.
Even being generous it would take at least 3 years.

More likely, it will get to 88-93 million sales and that's it.

But the PS4 on the other hand...now that can get to 100 million in maybe 4-5 years.

[BigFnHooters]

"This is vgcharts"

So...completely ignore everything your wrote.

The PS3 is closing in on 85 million worldwide sales and has another five years or so of sales before Sony stops manufacturing it.

It's will pass the Wii in worldwide installed base without question. The only question is how far into the 100 millions will the PS3 reach.

[HighResHero]

@paulcek:
Bookmark that comment and check back in 3-4 years.

[JediDiah]

If PS4 TOTALLY wins then you Sony fan boys will get owned by Sony for lack of competition.

[Sharius]

there is alway competition in gaming world, dude

there is a console, but also the PC, tablet and smartphone, this isnt 80s anymore, ppl have alot of choice to make

[djplonker]

@jedi More money for sony means more games they are not going to use the profits to buy magic beans...

I compare playstation to steam because xbla isn't even on the same level of value and steam is always going to be around!

[MysticStrummer]

If gaming history shows us anything it's that new companies step in and fill the void when one or more others falter. Sony and MS are both examples of that.

[jessupj]

And look what MS fanboys got when MS thought they could dictate where the industry went.

Draconian DRM.

Gimped hardware that's more expensive.

Free apps behind a paywall.

A draught of quality exclusive games.

GWG is heavily lacking right now as well.

MS fanboys have absolutely nothing to talk about.

[bennissimo]

Some of us wanted the X1 that was initially announced, before the reversal of policy.

Not everyone thinks that MS is bad, but if all you ever do is talk about this stuff with folks on heavily biased sites like this one, you think that that's all there is.

[IRetrouk]

So you didnt want to own the games you paid for? Madness I tell you madness.

[tommygunzII]

Gaming was fine before Xbox stumbled in.

[DigitalRaptor]

Agreed.

I cannot lie and say Microsoft has brought nothing to this industry, but no company has come along and been the detrimental influence to so many other factors as has Microsoft.

I for one am glad they're not dominating anything this generation, because as jessupj said above, if they did where would we be? We'd be in the shitter as consumers and Xbox fanboys would continue to blindly support anti-consumerism and shitty non-gaming features that this industry could do without focusing on.

With Sony being back on top, the industry can return to a healthy dominant state of PS1 and PS2 where the games keep coming AND consumers still don't get the short end of the stick.

[Tedakin]

I just don't understand how 3.5 million sold in 3 months, higher than any previous xbox or playstation, is a fail. It's bizarre to me.

[Tedakin]

What is there to disagree with here? What I stated is true. 3.5 million 3 months. Higher than all previous Xboxes and PS's. You're disagreeing with actual facts.

[MysticStrummer]

It's a fail in the same way WiiU is a fail at this point. Both had strong launches, and then both had their sales fall way off. 3 million of that 3.5 were sold last year. In comparison, PS4 hit 3 million and then 4 million in December, and is now at nearly 6 million.

Also, look at NA. Last gen MS won their home territory hands down. This gen, so far, PS4 is taking it back.

[bumnut]

Its not a fail, except to PS4 fans.

[AutoCad]

lol why is it that everytime that something good is said about xbox,someone has to make an article bashing the xbox?

[Tedakin]

It's all opinion pieces written by unknown people on unknown websites with unclear views that may or may not be biased, and everyone loses their minds! In 10 minutes N4G will have a link to another mysterious article that says the Xbox One is prepped for massive success.

[AutoCad]

True,just find it funny how its mostly xbox being bashed on this site.i havent seen this site go after sony being in financial problems,yet ms is the one going downhill.
to each its own i guess lol

[iceman06]

Exactly...N4G is a fickle beast. It changes with the trends in the industry. About 3 or 4 years ago, you couldn't get an article approved that had anything positive to do with Sony. Every other article was like THIS...doom and gloom. It's just a vocal minority having article battles to suit their own sad agendas. I lost 2 or 3 bubbles in the first week alone for stating harmless opinions. But, I was on the wrong side of history at the time...I guess...being that I only owned a PS3 at the time. I just find it pretty sad that people loose their collective minds over this stuff.

[BitbyDeath]

'go after sony being in financial problems,yet ms is the one going downhill.'

Cause this is a gaming site.
Sony as a whole isn't doing well but Playstation is.

As opposed to MS which is doing well but Xbox is not.

[kenshiro100]

Heaven forbid that anyone criticizes the XB1. Oh....silly me I forgot. Criticism only applies to Sony right?

[Dan_scruggs]

Man I can't wait for Pure Pool. GOTY I tells ya.

[cyber_daemonx]

@The_devils_chum. Exactly, and PS4 is the iceberg lol.

[Killzoner99]

If the future doesn't look good for the Xbone then the future looks good for gaming.

[thebudgetgamer]

I think it's funny that the arguments have done a 180, its bizarro world.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[IG-88]

Man Sealab 2021 was soooooooo good! and yes it is bizarro world!

[Peternorth]

Man sure will be glad when all these great games ps4 is getting comes out so all this bs can stop this is just getting sad.Guess what if ms fails then sony becomes a monopoly that would be bad for everybody. I like sony as much as I like Nintendo and ms but wanting one to die off that's crazy

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

Things do not look good for Microsoft. Lets compare last gen when xbox had the lead due to a 1 year head start, ps3 being 600 bucks (which i admit was alot but understandable due to bluray and expensive hardware) and lots of negative reactions due to devs being lazy with its hardware were the main reasons why many people bought an xbox 360. Not because it was better but because it came out first, it was cheap and all the negative news sony was receiving.
Now look at this gen where Sony and Microsoft were only weeks apart into the next gen, There really was no long wait to get an xbox one. Yes xbox one is more expensive but not because its more advanced but because microsoft wants to have a camera added to their console so thats thier own choice and we all see from the get which console is more advanced and 100 bucks cheaper

So yes i do believe they are in deep trouble and Sony is going to run with this and continue to dominate.

[FanboyKilla]

funny, this guy and alot of others think they can see the future. lol he got a few clicks though. smh i dont need xone to outsell sony, i need games like titanfall. on that note future looks bright. and i can see titanfall releasing on march 11. keep them hating ms. props to sony though, for selling a game console without games.

[tommygunzII]

We already saw this coming, you all were warned.

[n4rc]

Amazing how vgc was complete bs in December and everyone suddenly realized they made up sales figures..

Yet now that its swung in your favor, they are back to accurate again!!

Amazing..

[kenshiro100]

And they're still made up sales. Your point?
No one claimed VG Chartz was accurate.

[n4rc]

Where do you think these sales people keep quoting are coming from?

Half the comments on this thread are using vgc to try and prove their point

[kenshiro100]

There's also something called official sales. Pretty sure the quotes were coming from official sales. Everyone knows VG Chartz is inaccurate.

It doesn't take fake numbers or VG Chartz to know the XB1 is getting its butt kicked by the PS4 either.

[Hicken]

I wish people would stop giving out Well Said bubbles for stupid comments like this.

Do people have to say "It's just an estimate, but," or "Well, if this is true..." every time VGChartz is mentioned?

ONLY XBOX FANBOYS have ever considered VGChartz to be infallible. Everybody else ROUTINELY points out how VGChartz is not to be counted on for exact numbers; folks are still mindful of how, even in the face of official numbers, the site STILL undertracked the PS3, and take that into consideration when discussing the numbers.

I think it's funny(well, I did; now it's just pathetic and annoying) that the ones claiming VGChartz is being taken seriously are the same ones clamoring for it to not to be taken seriously. More ironic is that they're many of the same fanboys who were eager to trumpet the 360's sales superiority as reported by VGChartz in the last generation.

Seriously, this persecution complex(which relies on twisting reality) the Xbox fanboys maintain has more than overstayed its welcome.

Well Said, my black behind.

[XboxSeriesBest]

It was a no brainer the PS4 was going to dominate this generation. M$ was too busy counting that RROD money from the sheep that they failed to realize that their customers had feels and didn't want the DRM butt-ramming they were gonna receive. On a side note, I hope everyone is enjoying their games or lack their of. I'm looking at you, Wii U!!!

[djohnson011211]

Wow delusional individuals here xbox one and ps4 have been the best videogame system launches of all time can't wait for titanfall and infamous 2

Forget pledging loyalty to a corporation I am a gamer and I love to play fun and great games viva la videogames

[Dirkster_Dude]

People have been saying the future doesn't look good since last February, which is just over a year ago. I admit Microsoft hasn't done as well as what I would expect and Sony has had a very good launch and continued the momentum. While Microsoft's XB1 console is definitely in 2nd place I don't think it matters at this point when the console life cycle is expected to be at least 8 years. Plenty of time to turn things around. I think Microsoft's biggest problem is the price point. Reduce it by at least $50 (USD) and I think sales would really start to pick up.

[vigilante_man]

Microsoft is actually in 3rd place behind the WiiU.

It may seem daft but there is a real danger that XB1 sales will never rise above WiiU world wide sales. Who would of predicted that 6 months ago?

[mcarsehat]

Its because people don't stop going on and on aaaannnndddd on aaaaaannnnnnnndddddddd on.

Hylerbole has taken over the gaming industry. its selling well enough to stay afloat, it isn't in danger. Only about 10% of console gamers own next gen consoles it hasn't even started yet just calm down amd enjoy the games out now.

[Dirkster_Dude]

The person who wrote this article only has 5 games on his list. The exclusive versions coming out for XB1 in 2014 I found at least 13. Found these on the Gamingbolt website. The article isn't very accurate - although I do agree with some of his points.

Project Spark
Fable Legends
Below
Quantum Break
Cobalt
Sunset Overdrive
Fantasia: Music Evolved
Halo 5 or whatever
Kinect: Sports Rivals
D4
Max: Curse of the Brotherhood
Plants Vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare
Titanfall

This took me about 30 seconds of looking by using a Google search bar.

[Nine_Thousaaandd]

I'll paint a better picture for everyone...

Xbox One...Exclusives...
Crimson Dragon
D4
Dead Rising 3
Fable Legends
Fighter Within
Forza Motorsport 5
Untitled Gears of War game
Untitled Halo game
Killer Instinct
Kinect Sports Rivals Sports
Powerstar Golf Sports
Quantum Break
Ryse: Son of Rome
Sunset Overdrive
Xbox Fitness
Titanfall
Fantasia: Music Evolved Music
Halo: Spartan Assault
LocoCycle Racing
Max: The Curse of Brotherhood
Project Spark
Zoo Tycoon

PS4...Exclusives...
Backgammon Blitz
Basement Crawl
Deep Down
Driveclub
Earth Defence Force
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
The Idolmaster
Infamous: Second Son
Joysound Dive 2
Killzone Shadow Fall
Knack
Lily Bergamo
Mobile Suit Gundam
N++ Platform
Nikoli no Puzzle 4: Sudoku
The Order: 1886
Phantom Breaker: Battle Grounds Overdrive
Pool Nation Extreme/FX
Pure Pool
Ready to Run
Resogun
Rime
Shadow of the Beast
Tottemo E Mahjong Plus
Uncharted 4
Velocity 2X
Doki-Doki Universe
Escape Plan
Flower
Helldivers
Hohokum
Kodoku
MLB 14: The Show
Natural Doctrine
Nobunaga no Yabo: Sozo
Pavilion
Rocketbirds 2: Evolution
Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin!
Sound Shapes Music
Super Exploding Zoo
Super Motherload
Switch Galaxy Ultra
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth
Blast 'Em Bunnies
Contrast
CounterSpy
Daylight
Diablo III
Don't Starve
Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
Final Horizon
flOw
Galak-Z: The Dimensional
Guilty Gear Xrd
Guns of Icarus
H-Hour: World's Elite
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number
Mercenary Kings
Nobunaga no Yabo Online: Tenka Mugen no Sho
Octodad: Dadliest Catch
Outlast
Primal Carnage: Genesis
Project: Heart and Soul
Project Phoenix
QuickDraw
Ray's the Dead
Road Not Taken
Rogue Legacy
Samurai Gunn
Secret Ponchos
Sherlock Holmes: Crimes & Punishments
SOMA
Sportsfriends
Starbound
Tiny Brains
Transistor
Volume
The Witness
Blacklight: Retribution
DC Universe Online
EverQuest
PlanetSide 2
Warframe
War Thunder

Sony has way more exclusives and more games in development...PS4 focus is gaming, reasons they are leading. Microsoft had to change their ideas for the X1 because true gamers don't won't an all-in-one set top box for gaming, they want a console dedicated to pure gaming with apps and streaming tech. I wish people would stop f*cking defending Microsoft, they screwed up and even they know it. The only way Microsoft can turn around the X1 is to win the hearts of true gamers again...with a underpowered console @$500 and games looking very similar to 360 games...not happening! Xbox One will forever be in the shadows of the PS4.

[bumnut]

Some of those are not PS4 exclusives, War Thunder and PS2 (possibly more) have been on PC for a while.

[Nine_Thousaaandd]

I understand that. Even if you count Microsoft vs Sony exclusives...Sony has more. Count the PC to console exclusives...Sony leads again. Why I said, "more exclusives and more games in development".

Sony's focus on gaming and a console that's praised by developers...will keep the PS4 in the lead for years to come.

[gamer2013]

Yeah funny buddy! The vast majority of those Sony games are INDIES mixed in with PC multi-plats that are better played on the PC anyway. Pathetic troll attempt.

Now here is the real list minus indies. Keep in mind that Phil Spencer has just announced more unannounced X1 exclusives are on the way as well.

X1:

-AAA titles:
Forza 5
Ryse: Son of Rome
Dead Rising 3
Killer instinct
Titanfall
Quantum Break
Sunset Overdrive
Project Spark
Fable: Legends
Halo 5
Kinect sports rivals
Gears of war or New IP from Black tusk game

-Medium budget titles:
D4: Dark dreams don't die
Max and the curse of brotherhood
Crimson Dragon
Zoo tycoon
Fighter within
Fantasia: music evolved

vs

PS4:

-AAA titles:
DriveClub
inFamous: SS
The Order
Uncharted 4
Deep Down
Knack
Killzone: Shadowfall

-Medium budget titles:
Lily Bergamo
Shadow of the Beast
Rime
Everybody's Gone To The Rapture
Earth Defence Force

[kenshiro100]

Ryse is not AAA and most of those games haven't been announced yet.

[Nine_Thousaaandd]

@gamer2013

I could care less if the damn White House developed an exclusive to Sony or Microsoft...and exclusive is an exclusive. And Sony has more, simple as that. Microsoft=27 exclusives, 4 of which are PC. Sony=87 exclusives, 45 of which are PC. Reguardless if Microsoft or Sony studios, is making the game...3rd party, Indie or PC version...Sony has it. They've acquired more...is all I'm saying. You've could have kept your AAA and medium budget comment...troll else where.

I know Microsoft has announced more exclusives...and Sony has confirmed new IPs in the works as well. You damn Xturds kill me with the Indie and PC comments. When I owned nothing but the original Xbox and Xbox 360...people didn't complain about Indies...but now that Indie development is in full swing on PS...its garbage. GTFO here...as always, Microsoft will come out hard swinging exclusives then its remake and sequels after sequels.

I own a nice PC for gaming...but I prefer console for most of my gaming. And its nice to see Indie and PC tiltes coming over to PS. These games and Sony studio exclusives...I prefer over Xbox.

Now ask yourself this, If your so called AAA titles and X1 is so great...why Microsoft lose so many customers to Sony?

[palaeomerus]

You have a lot of cheap little steam games (the kind of stuff they sell in bundles) and cross buy PS3 games in your list of PS4 "exclusives".

[DigitalRaptor]

I wouldn't say all of those games are 2014.

Project Spark - beta this year, full game probably not until 2015.

Fable Legends - beta this year, full game 2015.

Quantum Break - we've not seen much and it's already almost March.

Sunset Overdrive - same as above, except we haven't seen anything but a CG trailer. I'll also say Insomniac have been a disappointment since Ratchet: A Crack in Time.

"Halo 5 or whatever" - 2015

D4 - have we even seen any progress on this? You sure it's a 2014 game?

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@ Nine_Thousaandd

Great comparison. You're even missing some PS4 games on the Japanese side of things.

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@ bumnut

Even if you remove all "multiplats and indies" on both lists, PS4 still comes out on top. I just like having a wider and more diverse selection of games. That will always be the case with PS4.

[Jamesx82x]

I have both consoles, so I have been keeping up with games coming for both. Its crazy how this article left off so many games like Sunset Overdrive, Below, Project Spark, and Quantum Break just to name a few. Yes Sony has a lot more coming that have been announced but it doesnt change the fact that plenty is coming to the Xbox One as well.

Exclusive wise for Xbox I am only interested in Quantum Break, Below, Titanfall, and Halo 5 (slightly H4 sucked) right now. I know I will be buying many more games on my PS4 but I still think Xbox One has a pretty solid lineup coming when you consider there are also a ton of great multi-platform games coming this and next year. PS4 upcoming releases are just better in my book and suit my gaming tastes better but to say Xbox future doesnt look good in terms of games is just wrong.

[Fanci]

The Xbox One is outselling the Xbox 360 and that did fine.. Not sure how much "Trouble" it's in to be honest. And comparing sales to PS4 is pretty much irrelevant.

[Brettman2008]

Xbox One is doing reasonably well. However, comparing sales with PS4 is relevant as third party devs want to develop for a console with a big install base and if PS4 sales momentum continues then they may have a much bigger install base than Xbox One in a year or two which may attract more third party games to PS4 than Xbox One.

[urwifeminder]

Loving mine will ride it to hell with MS .

[Ra3030]

@ NELOANJELO.......you are right about the troll comments. I've noticed that on many posted articles. Sadly this site has more than a few moderators that are no more than
Butthurt Microsoft fanboys. And BTW excellent post.

[idontcare]

the future looks better than ever because it's the only console with games worth playing - and the only "true" next gen console too.

maybe i'll buy a PS4 for Uncharted or a God of War but until then i don't need this PS3 with some graphical updates.

have fun with your 1080p 60fps megahyped gaming machine. i'm having fun too ;)

[tommygunzII]

A company run by idiots, for idiots.

[strickers]

Both doing well. PS4 is a recording breaking freight train but XB1 is selling enough to remain. In the market. All gamers should want both to sell. Competition is necessary, as is a big market of consoles.
We should be hoping Wii U sells some too. 3 healthy consoles is good for the market. On a personal note, I'd rather Ninty went multi , so I could play the few Ninty games that interest on my PS4.

[Azzanation]

People need to stop comparing system sales because its just dumb. XB1 is making MS money and its outselling there previous system by a mile and its also only available in 13 countries where as PS is available in 50+, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work that out.

MS don't care about Sony, Sony are a dieing company. As long as Xbox sells which it is, then there's nothing to worry about. What games are people buying the PS4 for.. Knack? lol honestly its selling because of hype.

The best consoles iv played were normally the least selling like the N64 and Gamecube.

I enjoy gaming on PC more then any console, its only a matter of time before PS and Xbox become PC services. Welcome to 4k gaming.

[sdplisken]

haha pc has no exclusives worth playing
all pc has is a few mmos and rts lol
hows GTAV aka the BIGGEST GAME of 2013 on pc?

LOL hey have fun with ur mmos tho

[cyber_daemonx]

The xbot's denial is soooooooooo funny it's untrue:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-u...

[lemoncake]

Get the fanboys sales out the way , then the battle begins for the remaining 99 percent of gamers, like always. If microsoft keep pumping out exclusives they will be in a good position

[HardcoreDaBoss]

Its getting outsold in everymarket and its competes dirrectly with the ps4

the wii u is in a different area.

its 100 dollars more then ps4

Its weaker then the ps4.

the exclusives are not as good overall

the free contect is not as good as what sony offers on ps+

with time im sure xbone can pick up a lot though.

ps4 is just the better deal and offers much more for most people.

xbone needs a 100 dollar price cut asap..

[Dfooster]

Early sales figures mean nothing for either console. You need to look at the sales figures a year from now once all the fanboys have got their machine of choice and then see which machine the other 90% of the public decide to buy.

[sdplisken]

i almost feel sorry for xbox fans

[Flames76]

So being the 2nd selling fastest console in history and selling 3.6 million in under 13 months in only 13 countrys is no good?On top of that Xbox One is already making money out the gate.Its not microsof thats going bankrupt its sony.With 5.8 billion loss on the PS3,PSvita lossing 2.3 billion and now the PS4 losing $60 a console.Last holiday quarter sony posted a $197 million loss again for 8 years in a row on the playstation brand.Plus sony will lose 1.1 billion ending march 2014 with laying off 5,000 people an a week ago they just announced they will be laying off another 1,000.No poeple sony is in trouble all these fanboys are trying to do whatever to stop titanfall and the Xbox One.Its not gonna happen once the X1 gets in as many countrys as sony its over.For anyone that thinks the Xbox is going anywhere your kidding yourself.Dont get me wrong id hate to see the playstation go anywhere we need both and i hate to see people lose their jobs.

[sdplisken]

haha let it all out man its ok to admit you bought a $500 pos machine

cant wait to play titanfall on ps4....that of which is already being greenlighted by EA after seeing the beating M$ is taking worldwide

XD

[2v1]

care to show some backup to your claims ..if not then stfu with the lies and deal with it

[corvusmd]

It's been just over three months, the launch has been better than both other Xbox's combined... according to most (as re-enforced by the fact that XB1 sells more games per console than PS4) so far it's had the better share of exclusives and that looks to be the case as far as we know. This fanboy slander just really needs to die, you're jumping the gun, chill out and just enjoy games and stop spending all your time being negative on a website. If you're a true gamer, you wouldn't actively try to kill off a gaming company that makes other gamers happy by constantly spreading bad news based on little to no facts. Just enjoy games and stop pretending you're better than everyone else because you "know how to have fun better and everyone else is stupid"

[lawman1108]

I will say only this...the PS3 was beating the 360 when that first came out too....the ONLY reason PS4 is ahead is it is $100 cheaper and these days that is the #1 thing,,,,cost

XB1 drops 100 bucks and puts HALO 5 or Titan Fall in the lit and its lights out PS4

[AceofStaves]

Lights out? Hardly.

The price difference helps, but PlayStation is a much bigger brand globally than Xbox. MS may reclaim North America with a price cut (and possibly the U.K.) but there's no way it comes out on top in the rest of Europe and Asia.

[Brettman2008]

Agree, momentum is back with Playstation and I think they will dominate this generation. Can't see a substantial price cut for Xbox One this year, Microsoft can't afford it.

[Justindark]

seems this site only has positive sony news xbox is doing fine ppl spny fans need to stop i would say people but its the same ppl who attack Nintendo that attack Microsoft so yeah..... enough is enough..

[larrysdirtydrawss]

good lord nothing new here.. we all know/knew this

[Father__Merrin]

Xbox1 flew out of door as Xbox fans wanted the new console

now all Xbox fans have the new console the general public doesn't want an Xbox1 simply because they don't want one they want one don't

they will have to keep cutting price to make general public want one want one

by releasing every year forza gears halo fable and keep on cutting price they might do ok might do ok

[Subaruwrx]

In my opinion, MS's big mistake with the Xbox One was to not focus on being a video game console. The media hub kitchen sink approach means that they are not just competing against Nintendo and Sony for gamers but that they're also competing against, Roku, Apple Tv, cable companies and last generation consoles (to name a few) for entertainment space in your living room. An Xbox that focused on games and gamers first with a console that could compete with the PS4 performance wise and price wise would be more competitive. The kinect needed a killer pack in app to justify its inclusion with the console - voice and motion controlled menus are not killer apps. At the very least Kinect Sports should have been included and since it wasn't ready for the Nov 2013 launch, perhaps MS should have delayed the launch.

[Brettman2008]

That's why I moved from Xbox 360 to PS4. Xbox 360 was originally a hardcore gaming machine.

[SliceOfTruth888]

So the only next Gen system with killer instinct, dead rising 3, Ryse, forza, powerstar golf, max brotherhood, peggle 2 all exclusive with a variety of game styles is not for the hardcore gamer....thankfully Sony offers a bad shooter and lame platformer for the hardcore....

[SliceOfTruth888]

Stupid article

Stupid people who think a system selling at a faster pace that previous Gen is failure

stupid people who think a console 4 months in can even be a failure

stupid people who think sales right now determine a consoles greatness need to look back at Wii last gen

stupid people who think next Gen systems have even come close to their limits

stupid people who think Sony Microsoft or Nintendo even gives a crap about them besides how we can get the money from their wallet

stupid people who would be happy for xbone to go under causing all gaming eggs in one basket and if that goes down we are going steps back than forward

stupid people who are fanboys

[urwifeminder]

Looks marvellous never owned the best selling console in my life lots of people out there like bieber but not me just cause something is popular does not make it great.

[palaeomerus]

A lot of people who don't like beiber still have terrible taste and make awful decisions.

[urwifeminder]

Exactly just like some gamers but taste is a matter of opinion my xb1 tastes great.