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Xbox One OS Reduction Due To Reaction To Resolution-gate

iGR: "Industry insiders Ashan Rasheed (Thuway) and Pete Dodd (Famousmortimer) have been on quite a roll this weekend, and now it seems they’re capping things nicely. According to Rasheed, developers at Infinity Ward asked Microsoft for more power to make Call of Duty: Ghosts on Xbox One more comparable to the PS4 version, and at first, they were denied."

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XiSasukeUchiha4159d ago

Damn this is going to a fun generation for MS

Eonjay4159d ago

Well, they really wanted Kinnect. Developers are saying that they would rather use the GPU for game engines instead of Kinect. They probably still have the option to allocate resources to Kinect, but if they don't want to use it, they will soon no longer be sitting on unused power.

tubers4159d ago

Wow. So the behemoth Kinect requires some APU power? Thought that thing has its own processing.

Too bad then.

dedicatedtogamers4159d ago

The thing is, I'm not sure Microsoft cares. They seem content to ignore the actual differences in favor of blowing hot PR smoke up everyone's you-know-what.

I can't wait for some 2nd-year and 3rd-year multiplats to come out and really show the gap between the consoles.

CrazedFiend4159d ago

Time to change the name to Xbox180, cause this thing's a complete u-turn from E3.

All for the better though.

indyman77774159d ago

@EONJAY Does this mean your saying Microsoft is no longer requiring developers to develop a Kinect compatible control scheme for every game? I thought that was set in stone.

Either way it looks like Microsoft fans owe PS4 fans another round of thank yous for making things better for them!

This is what happens when you complain about something instead of automatically defending it!

Gazondaily4159d ago

Kinect was a BIG risk and now MS are paying for it.

They better start using it or deliver in the games department or they can expect to share a similar fate to the Dreamcast.

NeoTribe4159d ago

Like i said before launch, even developers are not going to want to waste there time with kinect. Its just not meant for gaming. Its pretty much a 200 dollar tv channel turner.

Volkama4159d ago

Come on now Septic, the Dreamcast? That struggled to hit 10million sales.

The One hasn't even started the cycle of cost reduction yet, and that's where the big numbers come rolling in.

Maybe MS will fall out of favour with core gamers, but unlike Sega they have a whole other world of consumers that can carry them.

mewhy324159d ago

that won't be enough to bring the bone up to speed with the PS4. But it's better than nothing I guess.

UltimateMaster4158d ago (Edited 4158d ago )

8% more than before isn't going to make any difference. It's still inferior by 50%.

nukeitall4158d ago (Edited 4158d ago )

Who f'in cares about "the power"?

Seriously, if I wanted "powah" I would get a PC. PC has consistently been the powerhouse every generation since the start, and it has never been overtaken by console.

Yet, I prefer gaming on console, not because of this "powah", but because of the games, the experience and the ease of use.

I'm saddened to see if this 8% released resources in the future turns out to gimp the Kinect One ability.

I have never played a game in the last couple of years and gone, f! This game sucks, because it ain't 1080p!

In fact, most of the games I played that is awesome is focusing on good game play, good story telling, and the overall experience.

It is not the rehashed games that is destroying the industry, it is the loud fangirls minority that is!

Wizard_King4158d ago (Edited 4158d ago )

I like how MS is attempting to hide the real reason they are doing an OS reduction.

It is because the OS is bloated, runs like shit, drops features and fails to work a good portion of the time.

They see now it is a far to bulky system for the weak CPU to run fluidly all the time.

In Australia where I am we have 12.5Mgb/ps internet which is pretty god for us and every time I have been at my mates way with his X1 he cant even access the friends bar. Or he gets disconnected from live mid game, or when the home screen items fail to load.

The dude at JB Hi-Fi even warned us that the X1 runs like crap and recommended the PS4 to him because they have had lots of returns.

It's just a mess and this is an attempt to fix it plain and simple, this line is just PR bull to get some favor back their way.

mzupeman4158d ago

@nukeitall

You're making it sound like it's a 'games vs graphics' debate, when it isn't.

Fact of the matter is, there are two major contenders out there right now with a lot of the same releases. One console is performing better than the other. No matter how you slice it, that's bad news for one guy, and good news for the other.

Yes, some have decided to already get an Xbox One, others have picked up the PS4... but in the long term, stuff like this is going to affect who buys what in the future. There's plenty of untapped consumers out there who will get into next-gen at SOME point, and what do you think they'll do? Buy the system that plays a lot of the same games with increased performance, or the other machine? There's a choice for many right now, and every day the choice is becoming clearer.

I know to some, 1080p output vs 720, as well as 60fps vs 30fps seems quite trivial... but when you're deciding to drop $400 to $500 bones on a machine, these things DO matter.

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Sammy7774159d ago

@dedicated
dude ofcourse MS cares. Look at anecodotal Xb1 sales on gaf, even in UK xb1 looks like a done deal since diehards have one at xmas . The console xb1 is vastly underpowered compared to ps4 . This is not ps3 vs x360 scenario where both consoles were kinda equally matched

ramiuk14159d ago

im in UK andobviously im only in a small part(manchester area),but anyway all peoplei know who wanted xbone have one at launch.
all rest are waitingfor ps4 stock

mcstorm4159d ago

@ramiuk1 I think it depends on who you know as I am also in Manchester (Small world a) and I don't know one person with a PS4 yet but know 3 people with an xbox one. I also know that everyone who has a 360 have said they will look at getting a xbox one when the price comes down. Its also the same for the People who have a PS3 have said they will get a 4 apart from 4 of them who have said they are getting a one in the next 18 months as they want a change and want the tv side of the console too.

Its all each to there own and its way too early to say which console will sell more than the other. I still think it will be about the same as last gen where the xbox one sell better in the US and UK and the PS4 sells better in Europe and Japan.

But for me I don't care who dose and dose not sell the most but I want all 3 to do well.

pennywhyz4159d ago

MS dont care they always abanden ther stuff. Nothing from X360 is compatable on X1. Ex.people spent 3-400 $ on csr wheels to play forza but...now a year later it dont work on X1 and forza 5.That is a just part of proof that MS does not care.All my wheels still work on PS4 Sony don't mess around and play games, they make them.

whitefang19884159d ago

@ramiuk1
I live in Leeds and to be honest I see more people buying xbox and putting up on Facebook than I do ps4. I got both at launch but I wouldn't buy the xbox again if I knew what I knew now, literally the only game announced on it I care about is halo. I've been looking online to trade it in for 300 cash.
Couldn't be happier with my ps4 though.

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Blaze9294159d ago (Edited 4159d ago )

Whole bunch of "industry insiders" when it comes to Xbox One knowledge....

Sammy7774159d ago

Thuway is known to all the execs of Sony and MS and almost all devs of all companies know the lad too

Hicken4159d ago

Same insiders that have been around for years. They're just revealing the truth. You can continue to close your eyes and cover your ears if you don't like it, but reality is reality, blaze.

MRMagoo1234159d ago

If they leave it to MS to tell the truth , we would all be waiting forever.

adorie4159d ago

Some of the insiders putting out info have done it for a long time. I found out through a gaffer that one guy who posts has been an insider since the days of gaming mags. I was like "really?!L" It really is a mecca for gaming info, NeoGAF. ;0

Unspoken4159d ago (Edited 4159d ago )

Their insider "information" all depends on who's stock they purchased, same goes for analysts.

Allegiance's turn faster than a PS4 fanboy can say, "Buut my consol hazz mor corez!!"

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tagan8tr4159d ago

"The Xbox One is reportedly getting an 8% jump in GPU power very soon in order to more closely compete with PS4." ??? 8% I find it hard to believe that will make a huge diff.

Morpheuzpr4158d ago

8% boost is meaningless now, let alone in 6-8 years judging by the past console generation lifespan.

ambientFLIER4158d ago

When did MS say that 8% was going to be a big diff? They didn't. 8% more is, in fact, more closely competing...

SKullDugger4158d ago

It won't help. The only reason FORZA 5 runs at 1080p 60fps is because of baked lighting no weather and no real time lighting and only 200 cars and 14 tracks. 8% will not help. Then norm will be 720p 30-45fps or 1080 20-30fps.

medman4159d ago

Microsoft sure knows how to give gamers exactly what they don't want.

tagan8tr4158d ago

Yeah they really Kinect with gamers...

CertifiedGamer4159d ago

Xbone or Xbox720, thanks to kinect

lifeisgamesok4158d ago

It's just Sony fans bragging about a number when the games look the same

Wizard_King4158d ago

But they don't look the same, as a majority PC gamer I can tell you that there is a significant difference in every multiplat title so far.

They all look significantly better on the PS4.

Retard4158d ago

Seems those IW folks care about some aspects.

Pogmathoin4158d ago

'I can't wait for some 2nd-year and 3rd-year multiplats to come out and really show the gap between the consoles.'

So, there goes your 'valid' arguments you always claim Dedicated. Your nothing more than a petty fanboy. People like Xbox.... That must crack you up....

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joab7774159d ago

Dont get me wrong, I hope Microsoft does well and succeeds this gen but they are gonna have to getc real crafty to keep up. Sony studios havnt even begun to push the limits.

This is why I think its worth it to offer either multiple consoles or simple upgrades. They always offer a slim eventually. Why not offer a model w/ more memory or allow the memory to b upgraded. I understand that consoles r closed and it offers devs the opportunity to build around but u can build a min and optimize . It would extend life cycle.

featurepreacher4159d ago

Extra memory is useless if it's not used. All games must be built for current memory specs.

SKullDugger4158d ago (Edited 4158d ago )

Thats what was done with the new Tomb Raider PS4 version runs 60fps @1080p and XB1 runs 30fps @ 1080p with dips down to 18fps. the cause a weaker GPU and the the use of DDR3 ram instead of the faster GDDR5 ram. Even with the ESRAM there is still a bottle neck created by the weaker GPU and DDR3 ram.

Gazondaily4159d ago

"but they are gonna have to getc real crafty to keep up"

Indeed. They have an uphill struggle and how they propose to compete against Sony, especially in the long-term, is going to be very interesting.

andibandit4158d ago

There's essentially only a few things they can do....lower the price And churn out exclusives like crazy

NatureOfLogic4159d ago

It's called damage control. This OS reduction will not be enough to make resolution-gate go away. If Xbox One can't get 1080p 60fps from a last gen game, the future is not looking so good for current Xbox One owners.

imt5584159d ago

There is no magic in whole world that Microsoft will close the gap. I will copy/paste from other news where i wrote some thing :

Problem is eSRAM---->DDR3, bigger problem is weak GPU - 16 ROP's vs. PS4's 32.

ROP's are the main reason for resolution. So, Xbone has 50% less. In Xbone's case, if you want to achive 1080p ( with a 30fps at least ), you must sacrifice AA, lightnings etc. In Forza 5, there was a massive downgrades to achieve 1080p/60 fps.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

These 8% isn't enough for 1080p and for jump in fps from 30 to 60. It will help for stabilizing fps in many games. If Ryse start developing today, this game will not have fps dips below 25 like now.

There is no help with eSRAM. Developers will use eSRAM for framebuffer, but the problem is that they must send information trough DDR3 which is slow for a good margin. Someone draw this and it's the perfect explanation :

http://i.imgur.com/N3iMLE1....

JetsFool35004159d ago

Thanx for the picture im slow when it comes to tech talk

andibandit4158d ago

So they're skipping 1080 and going straight for 4k?

ambientFLIER4158d ago (Edited 4158d ago )

I see sony trolls bringing up this "last gen game" bs, but why? Yes, it's a last-gen game...visually overhauled to current-gen standards, so using logic, that makes it a current gen game, no? Obviously it now requires way more processing power than before.

You might as well say that PS4 can't run BF4 in full 1080P, despite it being a last-gen game, which it is, since it runs on the ps3 as well.

It's funny how the PS4 one-bubble troll brigade proclaims how the future is looking for the xbox owners, and yet the ACTUAL xbox owners are happy playing their games and enjoying their systems, where as you guys feel the need to put down the xbox instead of shutting the hell up and playing your amazing ps4s...

SKullDugger4158d ago

Its next GEN bro wake up.

Evil_Ryu4159d ago

i have a feeling it's not going to help much

rela82me4159d ago

Oh I am also an insider... Microsoft is doomed!

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain16d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198115d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK14d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts14d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK14d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT18d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits17d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel117d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic17d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN17d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel116d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica17d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14917d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga17d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania18d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts17d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7717d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7717d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts17d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7717d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb17d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow17d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor17d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate9125d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa7824d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer24d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio24d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate9124d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis24d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX24d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn24d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX24d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto24d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog24d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

**btw, I'm talking about street food vendors, just in case there's any confusion!

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Lightning7724d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio24d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning7724d ago (Edited 24d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx24d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning7724d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole24d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio24d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs24d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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