GT writes: "We put both gears under the microscope to see what's upgraded, and what's the same."
The graphics haven't seen a big improvement(They looked awesome in GeOW 1 so I really didn't expect them to look uber realistic this time around),the lighting has been improved though,you can def' see more detail in the Lancer edit:I just noticed the blood looks to be slightly lighter and toned down in GeOW2,bummer :(
Well Gears 2 looks better but marginally so. About as marginal as usual sequel is on most consoles. Sort of like how GodOW2 looked better than GodOW 1.
the colors, the textures, but YOU guys say the game hasn't improved much? ha ha Are you guys serious? Look at the comparison, the game looks awesome, so why do sony loyalists make sure they jump on Gears threads so quickly to downplay the game?.... oh wait nevermind, silly question, this is the alternate reality known as n4g. JOY
Yea. Its hard to top gears 1 visually
@ JokesOnYou You really need to calm down, let's not forget the amount of hype that was coming with this in-game trailer. I have to admit I was expecting a lot more from the graphics department, comparing this to Killzone 2 (it's inevitable) Gears of War 2 did not deliver the graphics to rival KZ2. Gears of War 2 will certainly, no doubt in my mind set the bench mark for graphics and game play on the Xbox 360, but that's where it stops.
That was not a good video comparison. I am playing Gears right now in the background and they made it look darker and a little muted in this comparison. There is no doubt the game has seen some visuals upgrades but they are minor. That isn't a bad thing considering how excellent the original is but let's not make it out to be more then it actually is. This generation of gaming suffers severely from over hyped product that usually never lives up to the hype. I hope Gears 2 breaks this streak. The original was plagued with glitches and frame drops when playing online. Epic created a lot of patches but they usually fixed some problems and added new ones. I hope that same doesn't hold true for this one because the dueling chainsaws have me squirming in fear of a whole new set of glitches. Since a lot of the glitches in the original were based around the chainsaw. This game definitely looks like they added some nice detail, a little punch in the color palette, some new animations and gameplay elements, but OMG mind blowing visual new never before seen eyegasm it's not.
WHY is it that whenever a person differs in opinion and states a truth,he/she is automatically a Sony loyalist? Downplay the game?Are you SERIOUS?lol,if you knew how much I love this game,you wouldn't utter such a comment. Here are the things I immediately noticed in GeOW 2:Lighting has improved,Framerate looks to be silky smooth(still at 30FPS though),you can now fight against the Brumack,and finally;The graphics look very much like GeOW 1.Now is this a bloody bad thing?Heck no,as GeOW 1 STILL outdoes the majority of Xbox 360 games when it comes to the graphics department. Anyways,I didn't fall in love with GeOW 1 because of the damn graphics;It was the gameplay.So before you start pointing the 'Sony loyalist' finger at people,take a step back and look at what you're doing
Not really a HUGE improvement but it did improve in some spots. They still got about 6 months to improve the rest of the stuff, so im sure it will look better by then.
i think it is fair to compare it to god of war series. God of war 1 was awesome and God of war 2 is equally awesome, but with bigger more epic setting with some cool moves. I don't think it will bring more audience than it already has, but will certainly satisfy the audience it has. I mean come on, they got only two years and to think that they will surpass graphics set by Killzone 2 or uncharted is unrealsitic. An overall improvements in all region is better game, then becoming a graphics whore.
there is a minimal difference between them, i think UT3 looked better(360) but still looks good, so por favor! stop posting $hit my fanfriends.
I still think gears 1 is the best 360 game, but somehow im not that hype for the sequel. weird.
http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/vid... 4:05 http://www.gamersyde.com/ne... XBUTTTS owned FOREVER they should rename GEARS2 as GAME with 0 AI....BRUMACK doesnt respond after being hit!!!! the graphics look crap vs UNCHARTED so not to even mention KZ2
YOU are one sad person. hope you die or get shoot be good for you.
This new trailer is nothing but Donkey vomit,Killzone 2 makes this game look like a Gameboy Advance title
You keep showing that pic of that gun when KillZone's charactor models and textures are inferior lol. Both games are not finished and we all know developemnt on the 360 can speed along.
a single character in KZ2 eg the GUN has more poly/textures than an entirer scene in GEARS2. It doesnt even look as good as UNCHARTED . How would it challenge KZ2? MART aka POG you have 10 accounts here Others MART and POG are the same person http://www.n4g.com/ViewComI... http://resistance100.wordpr... http://resistance100.wordpr...
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I can't agree with you about KillZone's charactor models and textures being inferior. I mean even you said in the same comment Both games are not finished. And Kill is at an advantage being this great looking and still having 3+ months more time to develop than Gears2. However, I also can't agree with my PS3 bros. Gears2 still looks beautiful. And you best believe I'm getting it come November (Limited Edition). I mean sure, I am one of the dudes who sees Kill2 being the better looking at the moment. And I wait in cruel anticipation for that game. Absolutely. But that does not take away the fact that Gears is still one hell of a game to see/play. No need to argue which is better looking. Both look dope as hell. And I bet both will sell like crazy. Hell, instead of arguing like this, we need to hope ol' Jack"ass" Thompson won't try to go after Gears2/Killz2. :(
He doctored the 360 gow 2 pic by making it blurry and used a CGI pic of killzone lol.
I don't know bro. They showed hands-on gameplay of K2. And it looked just like that when they played it. Hell yeah it looks like CGI. That's why everyone is so blown away. Hell, people refuse to believe its gameplay. That's how crazy it looks. So when it's released, and the possibility for even better graphics, and when people know it's real. People are gonna be even more awe struck. I can't wait dude. And as for the blurry G2 pic. You ain't gotta convince me bro. I know it looks dope. Already got it reserved :).
I'v seen the KZ2 gameplay this isn't a KZ2 thread. KZ2 has the main charactor very detailed thats it!, the rest of the game doesn't messure up. no more killzone man I'll join you in killzone threads.
Power of green, you really do seem delusional, almost every one has admitted that Killzone 2 has the best graphics to date, except for yourself and some of the other Xbox fanatics. The fact is everyone is praising Killzone 2 because it DOES look like CGI, that's how impressive it is.
That CGI pic is killzone2's gameplay. The link that Kaz made. Yes, the 360 uses such advanced textures that it looks exactly like the first one. Give me a break Killzone's characters are higher resolution, as well as their texturemaps. 2k maps are used J U S T for the faces normal maps,diffiuse maps,bump maps, spec/reflection maps. Please don't pretend that the UNREAL engine which is KNOWN for shortcuts with geometry using normal maps to show detail all of a sudden is capable.
Sorry but its true. You kids can thank old-gen Xbox 360 Hardware and DVD9 for that.
it's exactly as predicted: just a tiny better than 1.0 and to compensate for the massive shortcomings, we have a huuuuuuuuuuge overconfident hyping effort that stinks just as much as halo 2.1 LMFAO! I must say, I had a good laugh cuz at some point it reminded me of Republican Space Rangers, they look and sound just as dumb LOL!! Cliff B: good try but you failed
I think you spend most of your life on n4g. You're always the first to post on news like this.
Pow is truely delusional, and that's why he should support Hillary instead of me.
Gears 2 is coming out end of 08.. And the difference is Minimal. There was all this smack talk about how Gears was going to show off a New bar of graphics. I guess they set the bar oh so high in 2006 that they didn't bother makign drastic improvements. Yeah.. right *rolls eyes* Lets just hope in the bigger better gears, the net code works, host doesn't have neo-like speed, and we get more than 8 people. I'll tell you one thing, that graphical limitation wall is staring microsoft dead in the face right now.
I do agree with some of what you said but you cant judge on one video because one level might show of better then a big open level where you stuck on a tank thing:P. YOU have your opinion i have mine, happy gaming if your not a fanboy :/
Ok you guy's are really funny. Killzone2 look's exactly or actually most of you say better than the e3 2005 trailer. But gear's only looks a little bit better, alway's a lose-lose situation. But hey to each to his own i guess.
If any level is going to look better, it is going to be one like this because it is on rails and a lot of procedures that would normally use the processor can be used for other resources. Most of the backgrounds do not have to be real-time rendered because you do not have to worry about a player interacting with them, and AI is cut down because most of the things going on are scripted. I do have to say I am disappointed because they were talking about how the new version of the UE allows them to have 100 characters on screen. I didn't think they meant 100 guys on a battlefield where there is no interaction with them. I definitely think this game will deliver though regardless of whether people think it looks better or not. Like you said, this is just one level. I am sure they chose the one they had optimized the most to show off, so let's hope further videos down the line can hold up to the scrutiny they are sure to gather. All I want is a more cohesive story (one that actually goes somewhere), coop online, and some cool new weapons. I could really care less if it looks better than Gears 1...it's not like the first one looked too shabby in the first place lol.
Surely they would show the best looking level they have running, so I reckon that level will be one of the best-looking in the whole game.
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They look both good to me and i be getting both. NIce comparision . NOt :P
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Well you failed. This game looks like @$$. This is what you xbots are comparing to KZ2? Your joking right? Enjoy smears of war 1.1
GeoW2 was supposedly the second half of GeoW1 but it couldn't fit on a DVD disc. Smart move Epic. Split one to make two. ;)
I also hear from the same people that Bush caused Hurricane Katrina and he caused 9/11! Get out of here with that shit.
and its true. Bar nudged.
Icewake just cause Gears still looks the same you can still enjoy your homo fantasies while watching your smeared hero run around. Sadly this is all your 360 can handle in terms of visuals.
Looks good, but I'm still not a fan of "uber muscle guys" and the everything covered in vasoline, BLOOM LIGHTING up the ass, or hi we are all made of plastic look of the U3 engine. Question is will the gameplay offer something new, or will it still be Kill.Switch + ? Ah well, let the totally pointless and inane comparisons between this and KZ2 and Resistance 2 commence... *sigh*
Hope the campaign lasts longer this time around though. Its good to be a gamer. Gears vs Resistance part 2. Can't wait.
Looks like the meat of the improvements went towards number of characters on screen and the overall scope of the game. Those Brumak fights look epic.
I agree that the bulk used was for scope of game but I dont agree that the brumak or whatever fights look epic. JUST MY OPINION
First of all, LOL at HD DVD's comment. That was pretty damn funny in how random it was. Second, this side by side comparison really shows that ultimately the game didn't change too much graphically beyond the fact that they gave it more color. It's not as grey toned as the first, but the improvement is so minimal that ultimately you have to go through it with a fine tooth comb. Is this to say that the 360 is maxed out? Maybe. But not necessarily. Gears 1 was pushed pretty hard for the system and seeing as how it come out relatively early in the console's life it's an easy argument to say that if 2 years later go by and you can't improve that much then you might be maxed out. I don't want to go as far as saying that I think the 360 has all ready been maxed out in terms of graphics, as that would be a damn shame (2 years and it's maxed out... sounds like Dreamcast reborn), but I will say that if a company as great of designers as these guys are - and they are utilizing that sick ass Epic engine - ouldn't improve the graphics 2 years later, then it doesn't look all that hopeful for a lot of other companies. However, I don't recall them ever saying that they were going to improve the graphics (?). Time and time again I've heard them mention Bigger and Better and from the looks of this trailer, that's exactly what it looks like. The world seems a little bigger and there are tweaks to the engine. Graphically, it's almost the same, but there's no denying that the game looks even more fun to play.
Rather than improving the eye candy, the developers improved the code to allow more characters on screen and allow Brumak(s) on the 360. Epic did improve the engine this go around, just not so much in terms of texture and character model work (hell, they may be reusing the same character models from the first; 2 year turn around for development with the same team AND director is kind of rushing it). More behind the scenes improvement though. They may have added destructable environments, but nothing in the announcement vid shows this.
It's hard to take anything you say seriously... "Why waist time changing something that already stellar." You can hardly manage to put a sentence together. "Me edonus, me like talk" ...that's how grammatically bad your whole argument is. But I'll help you out! It's "waste" not "waist"... it's "that is or that's" not just "that"... and finally, you asked a question but ended the sentence with a period. If you're going to try and make a point, at least sound like you're older than 10.
"Gears 1 was pushed pretty hard for the system and seeing as how it come out relatively early in the console's life it's an easy argument to say that if 2 years later go by and you can't improve that much then you might be maxed out." GamePro- Having worked on Xbox 360, from a technology standpoint, how much more do you think the system can be pushed with future games? Cliff Bleszinski- I think there's plenty of room to push and experiment when it comes to physics and AI and real-time lighting. I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with gameplay as well as the 360. There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, and my gut tells me I still love playing it, I think we have a really incredible experience; I think we'll definitely push it further if we get around to doin a new version in the future. http://www.gamepro.com/news... Lets recap here. Do I go with the person that did not develop the game and just assuming that it pushed it almost to the max, or do I go with the actual game developer. I think I'm gonna go with Cliff here.
I won't be able to play gears 2(I only have a PS3 and a gaming PC), but people really need to stop this crap. Gears 1's graphics were already great enough, but it's not graphics alone that carried gears. It's the gameplay and the enviornments. I really, really like the art design of gears and I'm happy it's sorta merging with UT3 as far as enviornments go. It'll be a great game I'm sure of it. Hopefully it arrives on PC soon after so I can play it. Stop the comparasin crap. For most of you, you won't be able to play one of them anyway so why do you care?
is it me or those gears 1 look better and the AI is better to. the gears one looks more nicer and gears 2 look more washed out, but it has many month to go so yeah i wont hate, 360 fan should do the same and dont hate on killzone and resistance
one is finished and other isnt to early to say
Most people expected gears 2 to not have as much of an impact this time because Gears 1 got the attention it had because it was the first real next gen looking game. This time there's actual competition.
i think so to i kno hella people that wont buy gears 2 because they didnt like gears 1 and there pro 360 and some have both ps3 and 360
I've said this many times before, don't expect Gears 2 to look that much better than the first. If anything, it will be a small improvement. That doesn't mean the game won't be fun, i'll probably drop countless hours into that game as i did with Gears 1.
wait wait....sony fanboy here ....but i must say....gears 2 looks phenomenal ...well done epic...well done 360 hardware ...kudos to ms. whats fair is fair right?
it looked good to me
All the resources in the world, two years of development, and this is it? Looks like the 360 really did hit its limit.
and killzone2 AI is still Retarded
tech-wise I see a lot of improvement, A LOT.. I think we are back at the "gamers can't tell art from tech" again.. and again..
the more you post, the less intelligent you sound.
BOTH GAMES LOOK F*CKING AMAZING! GLAD ALL YOU MORON DROIDS WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE FIRST GAME COMPLAINED ABOUT IT BEING "GREY". NOW LOOK HOW VIBRANT IT IS, AND HUNDREDS OF GUYS ON SCREEN, AND RUNNING AT A BOOSTED 60 FRAMES A SECOND THIS TIME. LMFAO. OWNED. PS3 IS F*CKING FINISHED.
I remember when they claimed this can`t be done on ps3,probably even better if they have the chance to. hahaha..it`s funny how times have change
We are years away from realtime radiosity? O really? http://br.youtube.com/watch... Halo3 has a light bounce solution, it's not real radiosity by any means but it's ahead of UE3/KZ2 engines ambient light by a mile.
The worst of hardware/console flame wars is that the majority doesn't really understand how the tech works and how it's relevant. 90% judge "technology" based on visuals.. which is very much a huge mistake. Silent Hill series has been the most realistic looking games back til now, yet .. technology-wise it's very weak. Frequently I see people judge how good a game technology is by "how much color" it has .. wtf?... Here in gears we have a very hefty technology update, draw distance/unit count etc.. ARE graphical improvements because they give freedom to reproduce much more cinematic scenes to the artists. Also, textures are at least 2x higher resolution, there's more material overlays (less frequent use of metalic shader, giving place to more materials.) We finally have Ambient Occlusion (missing from Gears 1 .. but mario galaxy have it o_O pretty weird Gear 1 fail to have it .. and btw, Killzone2 doesn't have it.) Killzone2 looks great and that is enough within it's purpose, but the light isn't dyanamic (baked.) , there's no realtime radiosite algorithm.. unlike crysis/gears2 (now)/Halo 3 and a few other games. It affects a game within the mechanics, there won't be change from night to day (unless they bake it too.) which is a very tatical change for certain maps. In conclusion, if you trust your eyes you have to shut your mouth because what you see isn't always what you have and there's way more to it than it seems.