Castlevania Dev's New Game For Xbox One, PS4 Is "Completely Different," Not Coming To Wii U

Producer Dave Cox says Mercury Steam's unannounced game is unrelated to the Castlevania series; won't be released on Nintendo's latest console.

[NYC_Gamer]

Wii U future is going to be real grim without much support from 3rd party studios..There's going be tons of droughts because there's no way Nintendo can pump out exclusive titles every month.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

AAA third parties might skip them, but that doesn't mean smaller studios can't make up for that lack.
The Wii u will still get plenty of great games over time, games worth playing, with or without AAA third party studios like mercury steam or EA.
Its shocking to me that so many people act like AAA third party games are the only good ones these days, that lacking them is somehow a surefire way to bankrupt, when that's just not the case.
The industry has lots of great games outside of AAA studios.

[Rainstorm81]

Mercurysteam is Triple A?

On topic
Triple A third party games draw in core casual crowds, who primarily buy these consoles for those games...BF, CoD, etc...

Yes great games are made by many different 3rd party devs.....but those games most likely will also appear on competing hardware

Nintendos biggest draw is 1st party content, almost to a fault, not very many 3rd party games compete....if any

[ChickeyCantor]

"Triple A third party games draw in core casual crowds, who primarily buy these consoles for those games...BF, CoD, etc... "

Triple A = budget related. Not how shiny your phong shader is.

[stuna1]

I don't know, but it seems to me like the 3rd party developers themselves want this to be a two-man console race! It seems to me like 2 years is more than enough time to have some big name title coming at a consistent pace for the WII U. I say 2 years because developers knew 1 1/2 to 2 years in advance of release to start lining up projects.

The bad thing is I see this getting worse! Anyone not seeing how dire this situation is looking, need only look at the PS4/Xbox1 sales figures and projections. At the pace the PS4 is selling, it is set to overtake the worldwide lifetime sales of the WII U within a months time, with the Xbox1 to follow soon after. Does that look good to anyone!? This will spook anyone who have plans to develop projects specifically for the WII U, anyone believing otherwise, stop fooling yourselves, face reality! This is not good for the WII U. no matter how much you may want it to succeed.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Launch wave hype isn't an accurate scale to predict continuing sales of of, though. Look at the 3DS.

[stuna1]

Whatever you call it, it doesn't change the fact that the PS4/Xbox1 are doing what it took the WII U 1 year and 6 weeks to do! Not only that they are doing it while competing against each other and the WII U! The truth of the matter, the WII U had no next gen competitors plus it was cheaper, now it's even cheaper than both next gen consoles with more games to boot. The most damning of all these facts is...... PS4/Xbox1 will outsell it 1/6th of time it took the WII U to reach it's worldwide lifetime sales.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

To say that being outsold is damning, without looking at profits made for the companies by these sales, is inaccurate at best.
The Wii whipped the ever-living crap out of the ps3 and 360 in sales, but did that make them doomed?
No. No, it did not.

Nor will it make the wii u doomed when it is outsold.
It will still get great games, it will still increase in sales and profits (in fact it already is), and the sales of the other two won't make a damn but of difference to that, especially considering that the wii u is still quite young.
You 're making this out to be a way bigger issue than it actually is, and you're downplaying the fact that launch sales don't traditionally stay consistent.

[stuna1]

The "Denial" is so thick in here, it can be cut with a knife! The point's I put in my comment aren't open for debate, they are fact, and are unfolding in this very instant! The fact that Nintendo had posted actual loses not once but twice last year, is a testament that all is not "Peaches & Cream" in La La Land. The fact that they had to consolidate their R&D department is yet another clue, but the finger in the ears attitudes persist! The fact that anyone could think that the lack of consistant 3rd party support is not harmful, basically proves my case as far as denial being strong in here, but I guess someone has to keep hope alive.

[MsmackyM]

I will 100% agree with you in that the 3rd parties are making a conscious effort to exclude the WiiU. Greedy publishers have gotten used to the money hatting that started with the Xbox and was adopted by the PlayStation. Nintendo first party content is too strong to be bullied by third party publishers and the publishers know it. EA has been going out of its way sabotage the WiiU since launch, but was caught with egg on it's face after the Xbox had to backdown on DRM and they released broken and crap games. Third parties are banking on the fact that Sony and MS first party studios aren't strong enough to support their consoles so they have more leverage when it comes to manipulation.

Sony is trying very hard to get out of the trap that MS setup with the money hatting, that's why you have the online pay wall, and the heavy first party focus coming from Sony. Sony even built a console any developer could love so you would'nt have every talent less developer crying how hard it is to develop for the console.

[Rainstorm81]

Stuna1 Well Said +bubs

I agree with everything you said msmacky except this "Third parties are banking on the fact that Sony and MS first party studios aren't strong enough to support their consoles so they have more leverage when it comes to manipulation. "

Not many third party games are stronger sales wise or quality wise to Sony or MS exclusives....Only a handful of games have that advantage CoD, BF starting with 3, AC, GTA and Fifa..... every other franchise will fall to the wayside to exclusives

Happened with PS3 and 360 and the trend will continue...On Nintendo consoles none of these games are top tier games, mainly because of the Wii's power and network and the Wii-U small market share thus far....not to mention, mostly peoply buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games

PS3 - http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

X360 - http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

the 360s number one game is shocking to say the least....it sold more than Halo 3 & 4 combined

[MsmackyM]

The only games third party publishers actually sale are; COD Series, BF4 series, GTA, AC, Fallout and Elder Scrolls. I may have missed a couple but not much. All other "AAA" games either bankrupts are nearly bankrupts the company that makes them, because of the combined 160,000,000 PS3/360 owners worldwide not even 5% of them buy the games. That being said, the only franchise Konami has that actually makes money is the Metal Gear Series. They can hype up games all day long and exclude whatever platform they wish, but at the end of the day if the game doesn't sell and they closed themselves of from an entire market who is really hurt? It's definitely not Nintendo.

[lilbroRx]

Going by these comments, no one even cares about this game.

Their sole interest is in making an issue about it not coming to the Wii U.

[starfox079]

Every game so far that isn't coming to wiiu is good news they are crap niche games wiiu will be for quality over quantity.....

[princejb134]

Oh no wii u=(

[JohnnyTower]

Too bad considering Castlevania was on pretty much every console Nintendo ever made. I wouldn't say that Nintendo missing this particular title bodes ill, but it does glaringly show that 3rd party devs are at odds with Ninty at the moment.

[BosSSyndrome]

Disgusting.

[LOL_WUT]

What about when Nintendo was monopolizing the gaming industry? See it all comes back to you one way or the other. These devs know that their games will find a bigger success on powerful and better hardware not on a niche console like the WiiU ;)

[Ol_G]

Yeah please go learn your gaming history before posting uninformed biased bs

[LOL_WUT]

Enjoy http://youtu.be/qtQww-VMYlQ ;)

[MsmackyM]

You mean how EA just tried to DRM to death the Xbox One or how third party publishers like to release broken games that need a month or more of patches after release in order to work as advertised. Need I go on?

[Concertoine]

What's this, nintendo's failing competitors from the 80's spreading bad news about them? Surely this guy with his no-name irrelevant company wouldn't spread lies to make the only successful competition at the time look bad? Let's look at the company's games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Solitaire, Wally Bear and the NO! Gang, Puzzle, Pyramid, Blackjack... maybe if the company wasn't heaping shovelware onto the console nintendo would want them representative of the NES. Like capcom, square, activision, all the other companies that actually put effort into their games.
You would watch blackb0nd, lol. Don't get me wrong, he makes some fair points, but that's when he's not insulting people because they collect nintendo memorabilia or pointing out technical flaws on games that won't be out for at least another year >_>

[ChickeyCantor]

Why are you even comparing past Nintendo policies and staff with today?

[maniacmayhem]

What is wrong with these devs not porting to the WiiU? It's almost like the hip thing to do these days. Port to X1/Ps4 and then say no to WiiU.

Nintendo needs to open some more 1st party studios and release some must have games for their system. Get their install base up and then sh*t on 3rd party devs when they come crawling to get their games on the WiiU.

Nintendo needs to pull a Sega. Sega started making their own versions of games when Nintendo was grabbing up all the 3rd party titles. Final Fight exclusive for SNES, fine we'll make Streets of Rage! Final Fantasy exclusive for Nintendo, fine we'll make Phantasy Star! And so on and so forth!

Lets do it Nintendo!

[SpiralTear]

That makes much more sense than the typical "pull a Sega" pitch.

[BlackWolf]

For a moment, I tought you were talking about going 3rd party. Good thing I was wrong.

[jonboi24]

Can Wii U actually run PS4/Xbone games? Is it easy to port to Wii U? How much will it cost to port or down scale a game? Is even worth the extra effort or man power? Are just going to end up wasting money? These are the questions every developers are wondering when it comes to Wii U. Unfortunately for the Wii U and the people who own them the answer is no to most of these questions.

[maniacmayhem]

The Wiiu can definitely run a PS4/X1 game. 3rd party developers make games to the lowest common denominator so they can be ported easily.

Downscale? The WiiU is capable of 1080p and has all the functionality a PS4 or X1 would have, controller wise.

"Is even worth the extra effort or man power? Are just going to end up wasting money?"

Now here are the real questions and these are the ones each dev is asking themselves when discussing porting to the WiiU. Which is why I put it on Nintendo to make their console more appealing to gamers by offering a much larger, more attractive amount of games to lure these 3rd party devs in.

No GTA? Have Nintendo make their own style GTA type game. No Skyrim? Have Nintendo make their own type of Skyrim.

Nintendo needs to start making the games everyone wants to play, not just their fans.

[Qrphe]

Power shouldnt be an issue at this time since lots of games will be making it to the PS360 and not Wii U. By nature, Wii U won't be even able to run 8th gen engines in a year or two.

[starfox079]

WiiU can run nextgen graphics ie dx11 comparable with 8k textures at 1080p 60fps ???? yes wiiu can run anything ps4 does and with internal studios it could run the same game better....

[Qrphe]

It's not financially sound to port over to the Wii I, simple as that. But I agree, Nintendo should start funding ports.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

nope. Nintendo is only doing Third Party Exclusive Collaboration.

[clouds5]

Then its not financially sound to port to ps4 and certainly not xb1. WiiU still has the biggest install base out of those 3.
I think the devs just have better conditions and contracts with sony and ms. They are focusing on 3rd party because 3rd party is all ms and sony have (except one or two franchises each). Nintendo has so many good franchises and studios that they don't need to focus on 3rd party and give them good deals etc. And that is a shame.
still i think PC plus WiiU are the best combo at the moment.

[Qrphe]

@cloud

If devs expect to sell more on PS4/X1 and a very low amoubt on Wii U, then the Wii U is not financially sound. Look at history so far, only Rayman Legends has sold somewhat decently on the system.

[DanielGearSolid]

Very confusing title...

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

who cares geez

[worldwidegaming]

second that!

[Hicken]

Yes, who cares if the Wii U isn't getting enough support to make it a relevant player in the 8th generation console race?

[Benjaminkno]

Castlevania 64 was no good... neither was the last instalment...

give me SotN 2 please.