GR - The creator of the wildly successful indie game Minecraft just donated $10,000 to the Awesome Games Done Quick 2014 gaming marathon collecting money to fund cancer prevention.
The Awesome Games Done Quick marathon occurs every year and is organized by the community at SpeedDemosArchive, and while Minecraft wasn't originally on the docket for a speed run the game's creator fixed that with a sizeable donation.
Everyone's heard of the LEGO-like world-building game Minecraft and its creator Notch, but how many other games by the famous billionaire developer do you know?
Notch is not happy about this free-to-play nonsense, and is happy to tell you about it.
Agree with the author. Free-to-play can be an easily exploitable practice used to take advantage of gamers to pay up. But I don't think all free-to-play games are bad, I mean Dota 2 and LoL do it quite well.
Perfect example. DOTA 2 is how u do f2p. Pay to win is more what he is talking about. Pay 2 win is one thing all gamers can agree is garbage.
And the problem is that play to win is a relative term that everyone argues about.
DCUO is a great example. Many of the hardcore community belive that nothing is pay to win unless it affects direct PvP competitoin. Everything else is take it or leave it. But this isnt true. They hide so much and make it very difficult to play without a sub. THEN, on top of that, they allow you to buy replay badges for the content, allowing you to get everything you want, for some money and luck. THEN, they also sell xp boosters, farming boosters, cosmetic items etc. THEN, they even have random packs you can buy w/ limited edition stuff.
I spent more playing DCUO than I did FF14, like 5-10x as much, and it's f2p. Yeah right.
* I kind of agree only in that there aren't enough rules or regulations for it.
There needs to be more ways to protect the people from getting screwed over and more ways to educate people on not making stupid decisions and avoiding getting screwed out of your money.
* Some ethics need to be there.
The only people I feel sorry for are adults who's kids go on a spending spree. There needs to be a way to block that, I've checked the setting on my phone and there are a couple of apps that block purchases forcing you to enter your password.
Other than that we're all adults and know better.
F3P can be a great genre as it has no price barrier for anyone to get into the game. The problem is the ethics of many of these developers / publishers are horrible and it comes back on the consumer. The best thing to do, down vote these games on PSN / XBL / Steam / Android / iOS etc... and give them a low score because of it, and the wise will stay away from it.
I think notch was saying that the bait and switch element should be illegal, not all free to play should be illegal. Though, he does generalize all F2P in his statement, but I'm not sure that's intentional.
Uh, no, not even pay to win should be illegal. If people are too stupid not to sink money into a crappy cash in game then they deserve to get ripped off. The more laws there are that protect people from their own idiocy the more idiotic humanity gets.
Free to Play as a term needs to be retired. There are various varieties of it.
Some games are free. Some games are trial and unlock. Others are freemium, some games are essentially free with optional extras, some games are literally just a GUI with no gameplay and a cash store.
The fact is that decent games like Planetside 2, TF2 etc are being lumped in with the filth.
I hate to tell you this Notch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft has a F2P Minecraft in the works...
I think we are missing another side to this argument. You have to have a lot of up front funding to make a free 2 play title. When a company like Valve or Blizzard releases these AAA F2P games like Dota and Overwatch it can seem as anti competitive against smaller studios with less money to throw at a project.
I never once spent a single penny in a Free to Play game. I instead just did good old playing the game for hours to get the stuff that I could have bought instead. If you don't want to buy anything you don't have too and if you do you can. So I see nothing wrong with. Now would I prefer to pay a little up front cash by buying the game instead, so it didn't take me forever to be to do something in the game, yes, but sadly few companies do that anymore.
CraveOnline: "As one of the greatest success stories in the history of video games, Minecraft creator Markus Persson, better known as Notch, has also attracted his fair share of criticism. That criticism mostly revolves around his decision to not make a successor to Minecraft, and instead disappear into a $70 million mansion in Beverly Hills. But why shouldn’t he?"
the guy made his choice. its not like he made a life saving drug and then decided to just take it away. He made a game that many people love, now hes rich, and he just wants to relax. cmon, thats the dream. he doesnt need to be a bank or charity for other devs now. I do hope he at least donates to charities tho.
This pig thinks the world owes her something. walking cliche for everything our generation is criticized for.
If I was in Notch shoes, I'd set up a room with a bathtub filled with money and a web cam.
I'd email the link to her and say she's welcome to look at the money anytime she wants but she can't have any of it.
Notch is frequently one of the highest paying humble bundle customers and contributes massive amounts to Kickstarter projects.
The irony of it all is that Notch quit games specifically because of people like her.
@silvacrest,
That is rather the point. If he fed her, then another would show up...and another...and another. It would never end.
You hit that first door to door salesman in the head with a no soliciting sign so all the others in the neighborhood do not even bother to walk up the drive and ring the bell.
Wow... she's crazy...
First being a huge jerk to/about Notch about Minecraft and how he's now lazy to not do any more games anymore.
He very respectfully replies to he.
She goes on being extremely disrespectful and immature, bragging how she's made so many games last year alone, while being 100,000 in debt(!) (way to go, crazy lady...(!) )
He still answers quite politely (although obviously with a cynical undertone, understandably)
And then she's begging/asking/demanding money to support her, her project, or because he has 'hurt' her on the internet, by bringing that(already public) conversation out in public(!).
W-O-W(!)
She needs to follow the yellow path and hope there's a working brain waiting for her at the end of it, cause she's quite bonkers.
IF he'd be giving money away (and that should be completely up to him, and nobody else), I truly wish it would be to invest in helping actual people in dire situations who REALLY need all the help they can get. People living in the streets, people who have fled a war-zone, people with diseases who can't pay for treatment, children without parents who are outside all day sniffing glue, children stuck in the sex-industry, etc etc.
Not self-entitled crappy 'developers' who have nothing better to do than work themselves into debt while going online into angry insulting rants against people who actually made a great game, before demanding money from them.
#Gamergate #Feminism #EqualRights
*cue video*
Guy: It makes me sick seeing these woman play the female card and expect t get their way! I'm appalled!
Waiting for the Buzzfeed video XD
It's always been like that. Women feel they are ENTITLED! They received the equal rights they fought for and they still want men to continue to support them while they receive the same wages and positions as men. How the hell does this make any damn sense? If a woman feels she's a mans equal then why should men continue to support them? It's like double dipping without giving anything back in return
If a single man makes his own meals, washes his own clothes, and cleans his own home, what does a woman feel is her role in his life and why does she feel she's entitled to ANYTHING? If a single woman takes out her trash, cuts her lawn, and takes her car to get an oil change, why does she feel that becomes a MANS JOB once she gets in relationship if she did it before meeting him? No one is entitled to sh*t...period
she should have to pay him for this publicity stunt. how does he know her and why would he be replying to this ****head in the first place? she has the mentality of a dorito's corn chip.
and that folks is how the internet has become. full of opinionated entitled idiots who keep thinking their opinion matters.
This is the entitled cow at her finest. Anybody excusing this disgusting being is a moron
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Oh that poor woman. I can't imagine trying to get through life with that laugh.
And you know what? Arguing whether Minecraft or Terraria is better is ridiculous. Minecraft requires a lot more coding to implement changes. I can assure you, as someone who has worked on mods for both games, that Terraria is a piece of cake. That's why the developers have done more with it. They're also really cool people, but still. Minecraft is a lot more work.
@dragonknight
i watched the entire thing and now i seriously think i may need professional help. tried to hear her out but she is really a shitty person
@garos82: My guess is that she's trying to pull of a Brianna Wu situation so she can cash in on Patreon, but she's impatient and stupid so she's just making herself look, well... stupid.
DK is on the money.
Watch when she uses the ire of gamers' comments to promote her agenda of being "oppressed".
Whats sad....is kickstarter exist. If they want funding, show a concept and see if fans will fund such an idea. I can't stand this asking for money...just because.
The man doesn't need to give jack.
* This is what Liberal Feminists wanted.
This is what you get.
Selfish entitled brats who think everyone has to do everything for them.
* This woman is delusional and I wouldn't be surprised if she is Bipolar.
* If your making multiple games in one year....they most likely aren't that good.
NO good game was made in a year....let alone in less time than that.
* People need to stand up against this liberal bullying.
They think they get to make anybody do whatever they want just because they are a woman, or trans,.?
Nobody knows who you are amber...nobody is marginalizing you......
Your crazy in the head woman.
Women....you need to police yourselves better.
I want women to call out this woman publicly for making the rest of them in the industry look bad.
What she just did, does a HUGE disservice to women in the video games industry.
All the hard work women have done in the video games industry is going to be made a joke because of crazy woman like here.
Women gamers.....Please call her out for her BS.
If I...a guy do it....I'm just "hating on women".
Please police yourselves better.
Call out the BS'ers.....don't excuse this...
So one woman's rant entitles you to go off on a rant against women, liberals, feminists and people with mental health issues? Imo, the actions of one person should not be used as an excuse to criticize billions of people just because of their gender, political affiliations and mental health status.
Idiots are people who misuse feminism as a derogatory attachment.
Feminism isn't what she displays here, nor is it something you should so flagrantly attach any time you want to make someone, especially a woman, seem entitled and in the wrong.
The only things you can fault her for are harassing Markus Persson, and asking for a handout.
"Feminism isn't what she displays here, nor is it something you should so flagrantly attach any time you want to make someone, especially a woman, seem entitled and in the wrong."
Yes it is. It's what it has become, and most feminists are the most privileged people around.
Nowhere, in any of this, does anyone or anything refer to feminism.
I'm pretty sure a women can argue for more representation of female sluts in gaming and you'd still call her a feminist.
Feminism
:the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities
If you agree with this, you are literally a feminist. Doesn't matter what gender you are.
Can we stop calling insane women feminists? It's no different than name-calling a man misogynist. It's not fair for anyone.
"Women....you need to police yourselves better."
Wow. Listen to yourself. One person isn't representative of an entire gender.
It's connected and you know it.
Stop reasoning why it's ok.
Stop trying to justify why it's ok.
It's wrong and you know it.
It's wrong for everyone...not just certain people.
Equality....remember.....that is what you wanted.
Take the good with the bad.
Equality.
@ Cowboy - She's/he isn't the only one doing this and you know it.
It's been a trend lately.
Learn to connect the dots.
Obviously not all of any one kind of person does everything....
That is obvious.
This is like the 200th "issue" we've heard about this bullcrap in the news in the past 1-2 years and you know it.
* N4G has been full of it....
* It's the same type of human being, weather women or man, black or white, young or old, that does this crap.
And if everyone would actually call each other out for it, we'd all be better off.
No possible way I could be 100% right.....I realize that, but I'm definitely close......
Close enough that it's worth being said.
* We have a lying female running for president but she gets a free pass because she is a women.
THAT is the kind of stuff that is happening and it's women like this woman, here who are trying to take advantage of that.
* Plenty of hard working intelligent women earned there way in the video games industry.
They didn't have to demand money from some other successful person.
@cynicsmate "Can we stop calling insane women feminists? It's no different than name-calling a man misogynist. It's not fair for anyone."
"Feminism is built on believing women's accounts of sexual use and abuse by men." -- Catharine MacKinnon
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin
And yet they are taught in universities and appreciated by feminists for being "revolutionary". Feminism is a dangerous ideology that forces it's adherents to adopt a victim mindset, blaming everything on a patriarchy that doesn't exist.
The fact of the matter is that whether or not this person is male or female is irrelevant. A despicable human being is a despicable human being and she aught to really get help for the mental issues that she is clearly suffering.
Or perhaps she's doing it for those sweet, sweet Patreon bucks.
Nothing surprises me at this point.
I find it odd that you're blaming all women for something a transgendered person said/did.
Such a person hardly speaks for any individual sex. Whether they like it or not they are a combination and I don't think "all" women or "all" men, "all" feminist, "all" female game devs or even a majority of any crowd thinks this way.
In the video she shows herself to be a hypocrite. She claimed that she only worked hard to get enough money for her facial surgery, making 250k a year, and then literally stopped trying so hard because she had enough money for it. Why should Notch keep working hard then?
Everything about the video and tweets make me associate her with one thing: An internet Troll
345 is being ridiculous. Somehow this lady being ridiculous is connected to Hillary Clinton? And you think Hillary Clinton gets away with lying because she is a woman? First of all, she isn't getting away with anything. No one has any proof of wrongdoing. Also, the media is all over that story so you are just wrong. Also, there are SO MANY male politicians that are caught lying and NOTHING happens to them. If anything you have proved the opposite of your point because the only reason you have a problem with her is because she is a woman. You are absolutely delusional
@macdonagh
I agree that those quotes are incredibly ridiculous but that would be like me blaming all conservatives when rush Limbaugh or bill oreilly says something incredibly offensive. When rush Limbaugh says Michael j fox is faking his Parkinson's I don't say, "I wish conservatives would lay off Michael j fox." Instead I think that rush Limbaugh is an a$$ and move on
@Farmassy "I agree that those quotes are incredibly ridiculous but that would be like me blaming all conservatives when rush Limbaugh or bill oreilly says something incredibly offensive."
There's a massive difference in radical feminism being taught in higher education and right-wing ideologues breathing molten horse dung. The fact being that radical feminism isn't held to any level of scrutiny whatsoever while Limbaugh and O'Reilly are old, racist white men who make controversial statements in order to make their living. Not to mention that their idiotic points of view aren't taught in higher education.
The word "Conservative" may as well be a slur at this point and while you may personally not judge every Conservative from what a fool like O'Reilly says, but let's not pretend for a moment that Liberals "know" better.
"When rush Limbaugh says Michael j fox is faking his Parkinson's I don't say, "I wish conservatives would lay off Michael j fox." Instead I think that rush Limbaugh is an a$$ and move on."
You know what's really messed up? We're talking about politics on a game forum. We have crossed that bridge now that politics have polluted our pathetic hobby and a certain group of liberals,(not in the classical sense) have taken it upon themselves to make games "better".
The person who's involved in this kerfuffle with Notch is merely a symptom of a much larger problem at hand that is affecting the gaming industry at large.
@cynicismate,
A long time ago the word imbecile was used to refer to an individual that was mentally disabled or possessed a prominent mental handicap. So did the word idiot. Those words have chanmged and evolved over the years to encompass new definitions of a negative aspect.
The word feminism is similarly evolving. It is no longer isolated to the definition you provide but instead now bears direct negative connotations. The fact that sites are unprepared to publish the current societal uses of the word, likely out of fear of branding or reprisal, is in and of itself an ironic testament of the negative aspects of feminism.
I wonder if he'll be branded a misogynist that's perpetuating rape culture.
A person who admits in her video to having made $250k a year in the past complaining that she doesn't understand why someone has all this money and then asks them for said money to fund their games while calling herself "bottom rung"?
This is delusion. Not much else you can say other than she needs to stop looking at the successes of others and thinking that she deserves the same.
Though, I will say, this woman belongs on the Internet. Her logic fits right in with the typical troll mentality on the Internet.
Messed up. This person has acted this way before on multiple accounts. Not worth Notch's time.
She's one of those Tumblr snowflakes who most people on Tumblr hate, they have these weird self-diagnosed mental conditions which they seem to think make them special and they seem to think that they are entitled to something from other people for it.
I'm a polymorpheus-sexual monkey beast from the planet mars, possessed by the spirit of rock and roll, with obsessive compulsive itching and breathing disorder. Your comment about tumblr has offended me. I will be reported this hate crime to the mods!
lol
Now we'll get a thousand articles about her for the next few weeks on here.
I wouldve done the same thing as Notch if i was this successful. I mean disappear into a huge mansion. Because crap like this probably happens to him every day
lol I'm sorry but she/he is a pathetic dev.Notch doesn't have to do squat for he/she.He created that game and made money off it he is able to do what he wants.GTFO
He/she? That's pretty offensive to trans folk. She's a human, and regardless of whether or not you disagree with her, should not be branded as some sort of sub-human.
The human was born a he and later became a she. How is he/she offensive? Some people will want to reflect her gender based on how the human was born and with what genitalia is between the legs. Some will reflect the way the human wishes it were born.
Some people just look for reasons to be offended.
I don't see how not knowing which gender to refer to her as and therefore using both means he's branding her as sub-human.
EDIT: was supposed to reply to another commenter. No way to delete messages on here. Excellent.
yeah, thats what i took away from that twitter exchange, he could have easily gone in on him/her but showed restraint.
Why in the world should Notch give her money? He made a game, and it made a shit ton money. That doesn't mean he "owes the indie industry". This is stupid.
And now we see the "there's no such thing as bad publicity" in action as her work gets a TON more notice than it did before just because her name is out there now and people will look in to her and her games out of curiosity.
Everyone would have been better off if he just ignored her, but she had him hooked.
Da fuq did I just read, is this person serious or just trolling.......well at least big boy notch handled it well.
I feel like this is one of those times where just ignoring the whole thing would have been the best option. Developer has history of depression and ADHD, along with money trouble. A pretty vulnerable individual TBH and I feel kinda sorry for their (admittedly embarrassing) behaviour being broadcasted so publicly. Should be getting help, not hits, and especially not headlines from games sites.
Notch, for his part, did nothing more sinister than politely join a discussion that got way out of hand.
She doesn't deserve anything from anyone. Notch did good when he replied. I would have ignored her quickly though.
Screw that. Make the Crows find their own food.
He has no obligation to support any body. He created a phenomenon leave him be.
Wow she is a horrible person. She is entitled because she is a female and an indie developer. This is why I don't like indie developers people like this woman and others.
Wooooow what an ignorant person. I bet if the developer had mentioned what one of the projects was and actually asked nicely, he may have had a better response and might actually have helped out.
The bank of notch..... handing out money to all unproven greedy devs....
No... earn your way and maybe you might be in the position to do this.... yet I bet she would turn the person down if in his position through greed and selfishness not through having good senses and common knowledge! Nobody is owed anything, never ask expecting what you want.... if you get it, then great! If not gtfo and get back to work like the rest of us!
Haha hating on someone else's success is pathetic, why would Notch every fund that woman. Go out and make your own success and stop relying on other people for help. Stupid!
Trolling for publicity or just crazy? I guess we'll never know!
what a horrid seeming person.
After watching the video, wow. Just a really abrasive person with a load of strange opinions.
I don't understand her thinking its so hilarious/weird someone would reply to criticism of themselves on Twitter, either. Stupid.
I could barely watch it myself. She was far too loud at points and it killed my ears.
I don't understand how she could think she's right in this situation though.
Like one of those gold diggers. obviously fishing for some notoriety by baiting someone well known and riding his fame to some money.
He should have some fun and use a tiny tiny fraction of his cash to make her life miserable. Hahaha, not much left to do when you have that much money other than finding new forms of entertainment.
Destroying the lives of fame fishers like this is a legitimate sport, in my eyes.
Oh yeahh I've seen this person doing a lot of whining on Twitter lately. Oh gah, lol I find it funny that Notch blocked her
Just watch the video, she's being so obnoxious and disrespectful! It's like this shallow sort of attitude throughout the entire thing, she's not really giving any calm cool arguments - she's just doing a lot of yelling and laughing, lol what is wrong with her? This any many other reasons are why people really dislike the "mainstream" indie gaming scene.
Man if I had almost 2 billion dollars I'd totally buy a mansion and become Batman
Notch made money because he worked for it.
She obviously doesn't have the talent he has. She needs to get a job.
And she has deep mental issues. :/ I feel bad.
Everyone who works hard makes millions. /s so is that how you made your millions?
He doesn't "owe" anybody anything.
He created a product that people wanted to play, thus they gave him their money to purchase that product. A transaction took place. It ends there.
This woman is an idiot and so are all the people who feel he somehow owes them something. She can ask him for sure, but if he says no, that is his right as a free individual.
He created one of the greatest games ever, and 1 upping Minecraft is virtually impossible, making him somewhat a 1 trick pony, but the idea he had was awesome.
That doesn't mean he wont create other good games, but another Minecraft? Never. It could be a decade before we see something like this again, games like this that come out of left field and totally run wild with things are rare, super rare.
Think Doom, Grand Theft Auto, etc. Not too many games that create a new field of gaming overall, instead of just expanding it.
Wow! I can't belive this person really believes he owes this person. It looks like this person doesn't want my money either.
I don't care about Minecraft, never played it. But Notch had just the perfect formula for a game that millions started playing which I think he couldn't even predict.
And if he doesn't want to do shit anymore the rest of his life then good for him. She must be either jealous or desperate for money, probably both
It doesnt matter how much money he has. He doesnt owe anyone a cent. She can go create a kickstarter page just like everyone else. She was a complete jerk. *****
What a joke this woman is. U r ore successful then me so give me some money. My boss at work makes more money than me. Does he owe me money?
Obviously, but he doesn't owe me money purely for the fact that he makes more than me
What a joke. I can't even imagine being so narcissistic to think some billionaire owes me money just because we started off in the same occupation. As a billionaire he should be generous and give money, but not to indie developers. Give money to causes that can actually use it for good. The world isn't a better place if this women gets to make an indie game.
The hipsters are really dangerous, stay away from them, this is a perfect example why. They are a violent gang, way more dangerous than hooligans, skinheads, gangstas or anything like that.
I got attacked by a group of skinheads and was nearly killed so I don't take them lightly (I'm white btw.)
As Andrew Ryan phrased it in BioShock Infinite: Burial at Sea Episode 2: "Give a parasite an ounce of charity, he'll demand a pound."
And that is so true.
I can understand her frustration.
On the one hand, Notch doesn't owe anyone anything. He created a game that became wildly successful and has made him richer than he will ever need to be but he has no obligations to continue doing anything he doesn't want to.
On the other hand, it is gamers that like Amber that gained him this status and the developers of the past who's work he built upon. As she said, he has enough money to fund hundreds of indie developers for years without hurting his bank account.
I would instead say that he owes the industry for what it has given him and that he should put something back into it and if that means funding other developers or projects, so be it.
Last comment, if he is a consumer of products/services produced by this industry, he is supporting it and other developers, is that not enough?
No, it's not, in the same way that a CEO of a company not reinvesting in his employees or in his business isn't doing enough.
Wow that woman has issues. Totally agree with the article. Idk what POS games she's tried to make that put her 100k in debt, but she could release the next greatest indie game ever and I would not buy it. Good on him because I would have rubbed it in her face to treat that HBIC syndrome.
Just add gamepad support to Minecraft Pocket already. So when I sideload it on the Google Nexus Player I can control it with a gamepad.
WOW. Here I thought at first a reasonable human being asked politely for SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY and Notch snubbed her only to find out someone had the testicular fortitude to demand funding and tell someone what they should do with their money (despite being in a $100k hole).
Amber Coal, you're approaching Phil-Fish-level of douche. Congratulations, that's hard to do!
He should be a decent person and support his fellow indies, and donate to charities, help those who ask, but he is not required to.
I don't like Minecraft but Notch seems like a normal guy. Not good or bad (though arguably if you are not good you are bad). Hope he has a fine life.
"Indie Developer Asked Notch to Give Him Money and the Minecraft Creator Wasn’t Happy About It"
*Fixed*
Whole thing's a troll, I'm thinking. First off, her name is "Amber Coal" which is a reference to a rather "infamous" internet video that came out last year, also made by a trans person (Amber Cole). Then the comment section of that article mentions her basically screwing about with both GG and anti-GG. This person is either trolling or mentally unbalanced, but I'm going with trolling.
She's not doing any favours for the trans community thats for sure, lol, crazy f**k.
Wait, but she's a girl. The teachings of Feminism says that we should do everything and anything to make sure she succeeds. A man cannot have money and not give it to a girl. What is this nonsense.
Entitlement is painful, she should get a second (or even third) job if she expects three times the income...
This jealous person has no passion for gaming or coding. They have a passion for money. Sad.
I don't particularly care for transgenders... I don't hate them but would prefer they remain outcasts. Intersex is a little different & I can accept them but for some reason I'm just fed up of hearing about transgenders(people born 100% biologically one gender opting to be another) pretending to be something that they're not. I can accept gays and gay marriage but something just disturbs me about non-intersex transgenders, perhaps the deception.
Im with you. But i guess it's what people want. Live/recorded comments from devs or youtubers. Pointless conversations small talk just like how you and i do with our friends.
Good lord, every time this goofy bitch laughed my speakers damn near blew. its bitches like this that gives the industry a bad name.
This miserable ugly girl and her fucking throat.... she clears it every 2 seconds goddamn wtf so annoying...
Awesome.
Considering they charging for a full blown retail price for the xb1 they can afford it I thought it may be $20 advertised here for $118 for minecraft xb1 version lol.
Cool.
He's worth $150M.
That's very nice of him.