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Let’s be Honest guys, The VGX Awards Sucked

Nintendo could have saved the craptastic show with a new look at a game we hadn’t already seen a week or two ago, but they trolled us all with DKC Tropical Freeze.

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Majin-vegeta3793d ago

Everyone knows this was the main attraction at the event.
http://a.pomf.se/mc63t.gif

AngelicIceDiamond3793d ago

Lol lets be honest.

Yeah it sucked. And it wasn't so much the host for me anyway he was about 50 50. It was the fact that most of those reveals were freakin indies. I don't have a problem with indies but they went indie crazy.

This is the thing. Indies are becoming so big that they need there own show/event or convention. Whatever as long as it doesn't get in the way of the AAA showcases. Those are the type of games I wanna see at the end of the day.

I said this twice already but Sony was a no show. And they even said Sony would be there or heavily speculated that they would (Geoff Keighly -_-)

So Geoff lied to all of us.

It was a terrible show overall.

cyguration3793d ago

What's wrong with indies? Dude, please... enough with this anti-hippy BS.

No Man's Sky looked a heck of a lot more interesting than Quantum Break, which was promoted as yet ANOTHER generic Hollywood action-shooter with slow-motion abilities, because oh right, we didn't get enough of that in that FPS time game, Max Payne, BioShock, Syndicate and a bunch of other titles out there.

I don't mind that indies get mainstream attention, but that was actually one of the highlights of the show.

The downside was the fact that it looked pretty cheap and terrible, it was produced like a last-minute Saturday night awards special -- oh wait, it was! -- and Keighley looked like he was about keel over.

McHale's misanthropic/nihilistic approach helped bring enough cringe to make it entertaining.

Godmars2903793d ago

Keighly's just doing his job, which is to get people to watch.

Sadly however, how he tries to get people to watch by teasing overhyping rather than just plain hyping, and misdirection.

Or in other words, yeah, lying.

AngelicIceDiamond3793d ago

@Cyguration

There's nothing wrong with indies. No man's Sky is easily my most anticipated indie game and that's the first I've been super pumped for any indie game. In fact I think No Man's Sky is the most anticipated since Minecraft.

Geoff easily mislead all of us when he said huge announcements and Sony was was gonna be there. The misleading is what I'm upset about. Yeah there were some great announcements.

I'm not saying just throw the indie community in some downscale event but simply separate the two. Indies on this side and Blockbuster AAA's on the other.

Can we just the agree the show as a whole sucked?

mikeslemonade3793d ago

So most of you guys are complaining about Nintendo? It wasn't the shows' fault. It was Nintendo's fault.

TheKayle13793d ago

@cyguration

wtf ....no mans sky looked a check of a lots more intereting of whta?!...i think u hard drunk

EVILDEAD3603792d ago

The show was horrible. If this show is the result of listening to the internet gaming fans then they should STOP listening to internet gaming fans.

Award shows have clichés and that
s cool, but mainstreaming gaming was NOT a bad thing. Bring the crowds, the stars etc.

Loved a few of the World Premieres though.

Evil

slimeybrainboy3792d ago

@mikeslemonade Nintendo were crap, but at least they showed up. In some ways that's worse, they showed up in person and didnt even have anything.

MS demo'd QB and TF, kinda lame that there was no reveal, but again, they showed up.

I'm most dissapointed in Sony, more so because I have a PS4. They didnt even raise their head. There was no reveal, no announcemnt, not even one of thse shitty "60 mins of eclusive content" announcement. There was nothing.

The show really wasnt all that bad, it's just the presenter put everyone in a negative 'let's find faults' mode. No Man's Sky and the Schafer game looked really good, and I actually liked how disorganised the black guys were, Joel's jokes ripping on Geoff were pretty funny. Also Divison and Witcher looks were cool. The rest was a complete waste of time.

rainslacker3792d ago (Edited 3792d ago )

Nothing wrong with showing indies. Everything was just too spread out. I think the show should have been more focused by showing the indies and AAA or A games in more succession instead of show an award, show a trailer, then talk about it for 10 minutes. Most of the show was padding and was painfully boring.

Most of the "world premieres" were for games that we already knew about, except for the indies.

Indies also have plenty of their own shows/conventions throughout the year. They just don't typically get national TV/Streaming coverage. Indies are becoming mainstream though, and if the big devs don't want to show their work at VGX, it's only natural they'd go to the developers that are willing to, and I can't imagine any indie is going to pass up the chance to be shown on VGX.

On a side note, I hated it when they were about to show a trailer, and then they would say what it was for. Trailers should surprise you when you watch them. It takes away a little bit of the surprise and interest when they tell you what it's for, and then show it.

SilentNegotiator3792d ago

"What's wrong with indies?"

Certain fanboys have a problem with them now that Xbox doesn't own a near monopoly on them.

Vegetarianshark3792d ago

@AngelicIceDiamond The problem is not too much indies, the problem is not enough AAA games! Stop blaming indie developers for showing off their games and start requesting for AAA studios to pump out more ip's!

Godmars2903792d ago

@SilentNegotiator
Actually, MS's issue was that they tried to own all of the indies while trying not to own them. Telling them how they were going to do business with them as if they were the only game in town.

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animegamingnerd3793d ago

you know your event sucks when a overuse meme is the highlight of it

Jughead34163793d ago

It was bad. I didn't expect a mini version of E3 or anything, but I did expect a much better presentation. I don't think they should even air this on Monday. I appreciate some of the reveals like the next gen Tomb Raider, and more The Division footage, but a lot of it was forgettable to me. And the host was just awful. And that concert....(puke)

kneon3792d ago

It sounds like I made the right choice, I ignored VGX and played games all night instead.

GamersHeaven3793d ago

You sound a bit cranky but yes I agree it was god awful.

Theyellowflash303793d ago

LOL, the best game there was Donkey Kong! LOL

LOL_WUT3793d ago

No, The Division, No Mans Sky, Thief and The Witcher all say hi ;)

By the way damn Geoff really put Reggie on the spot asking him about the competition and for wanting them to reveal more.

Theyellowflash303793d ago

The Division just showed their engine....and No Mans Sky looks cool...but there wasn't much. Thief and Witcher look...meh

I wasn't a huge fan of the first Witcher game, or the second.

And I think MGS 5 will wipe the floor with Thief.

And that's what good journalists do, push for more. But that showed sucked man.

We saw more on The Division weeks ago. Nothing special was shown at this show.

I didn't say the games were bad, the show was lackluster though.

GamersHeaven3793d ago (Edited 3793d ago )

Actually that was one of the worst games shown at VGX graphically on par with DK Jungle beat LOL.

@Theyellowflash30-It will be a good game DK is great franchise but the best game shown at this years VGX? Hell no! not even close Nintendo had a golden opportunity to show something more appealing they did not they failed.

Theyellowflash303793d ago (Edited 3793d ago )

The graphics are far better in person.

And do you really think the DKC is going to suck?

MasterCornholio3793d ago

Your a Nintendo fan so it's normal for you to ignore everything that isn't made by Nintendo.

pyramidshead3792d ago

the witcher, no man's sky, broken age. The rest were stuff we've either seen before or just generally meh.

Amigaengine3792d ago

The Division and Witcher 3 was the best looking games there.

H0RSE3792d ago (Edited 3792d ago )

Thief isn't a new IP - the franchise has been around since 1998, and has many loyal fans. I'm assuming you didn't play the original games (were you even old enough?) but Thief 2 is one of my favorite games, and even for being dated, it features some of the best stealth mechanics ever in a game.

It provided your character with tools for the jobs, but didn't really rely on hokey gimmicks like leveling up your characters "sneak ability," or unlocking perks - you actually had to be sneaky... consistently.

The new game will offer a plethora of options for players to customize their experience/difficulty settings, like offering things like Iron Man Mode (if you die or fail a mission, you lose your game and must restart from the beginning.) In this regard, those oldschool gamers like myself who played and enjoyed the originals, in addition to those new to the game and simply see it as something interesting, are looking forward to this new title.

MGS is undoubtedly a popular franchise - I personally do not like it, since I tend not to like Japanese games, but when you say "wipe the floor with" what are you implying? Sales, gameplay, overall fun? Or are you implying that it's going to go for the flawless victory and beat it in all these categories?

After being pleased with the recent revival of another Eidos classic (Deus Ex) I am hopeful that the new Thief title will deliver. My personal outlook aside, I doubt MGS5 is gonna be a clear winner here, not that it matters anyway, since they are entirely different games.

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LOGICWINS3793d ago

Probably the worst VGA/VGX I've seen, but I still enjoyed it. The awkardness Joel brought to the atmosphere was cringeworthy...but in a good way. He made Reggie sweat a little lol.

Geoff did live up to one thing he promised though. This VGX was more developer/gamer focused than an other VGA...it just wasn't very exciting.

All it did was re-confirm why I want a next-gen console.

Concertoine3793d ago

3 hours of padding and horribly quirky humor from the 2 hosts. I'm not watching this next year... i'll wait until the trailers are all up on youtube an hour after it airs.

Blackdeath_6633792d ago

i feel so happy i didn't waste my time watching it. i knew it. all the people who got excited by some announcements i really feel sorry for you guys. not watching anymore "gaming" shows especially from spike TV all the reveals will be covered afterwards anyways without having to put up all that nonsense

majiebeast3793d ago

What they had to do was the same format as last year without the B list celebs. Cause last year was a big step forward with the live orchestra and everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watc... and now we had a crap rap concert for the terrible soundtrack of GTA V.

AceBlazer133793d ago

How GTA won best soundtrack is beyond me, the songs mostly suck.

Joel had to tell the audience to applaud at some points.Then the awkward applauds he tried to get rolling himself.

Lackluster reveals.A cheap set, seriously Tosh.O has more work put into it -_-

The Loiter squad sucks ass, immature dicks.
Too much was wrong to fit in one bubble.

MrSwankSinatra3793d ago

this is like the worst the VGA's have ever been like mannn....

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

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purple10113d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218312d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos12d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai13d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197213d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197213d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218312d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto12d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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XiNatsuDragnel19d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8818d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing18d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS18d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder18d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218317d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.