Players criticized Bad Company for not being serious

"Speaking to OXM, the executive producer of Battlefield 4 said 'When we did the original Bad Company and the sequel, we got a lot of criticism. Why would I play this? It's not a serious shooter, I don't care about this. I want a serious shooter with a more hard-boiled angle. And we thought it was fun! We loved it, we thought it was a great game. The narrative was amazing and the characters were amazing.'"

[CocoWolfie]

well i enjoyed it, i dont want serious seriousness, in most games you eat food lying around to restore health, hell look at bulletstorm, why do video games have to be as serious and as realistic as these guys want? they dont. i guess you choose to look at the wrong crown for feedback :/

[ZodTheRipper]

Yes, it certainly wasn't me complaining. I don't want seriousness in a game where it's all about destroying huge buildings with all kinds of artillery. The campain in Bad Company was perfect for this type of game if you ask me - while the campaigns in BF3 & BF4 were a waste of time, partly because of their seriousness.

[morganfell]

If people think BF3 and CoD games are serious then they no nothing about actual combat. Those games have just as many holes as BC but with almost none of the entertainment value.

[NewMonday]

it's like BF takes a step back with every installment

Bad Company2 was fantastic

BF3 was good

BF4 is disappointing.

[BattleAxe]

^^^

Let me take it a step further:

Bad Company 1 - Great (Single Player was Fantastic)

Battlefield 1943 - Awesome (Really fun, and great value for the money)

Bad Company 2 - Awesome (Single Player was OK)

Battlefield 3 - Good (Vehicle Combat wasn't as good as the previous 3 games. Single player was pretty tense, which I really liked)

Battlefield 4 - Not Interested

[dirigiblebill]

Is this the same Bulletstorm that sold precisely bugger-all despite being a huge critical success? ;) Not the best point of comparison, possibly.

[Rockefellow]

I think he was referring to the story and narrative in regards to seriousness, which has nothing to do with realism.
I agree with you, though. The day that gaming requires me to do tasks just as I would in real life is the day that I think I would need to find a new hobby.That would be far too monotonous and boring for my taste.

[vallencer]

I miss the music that plays when you get awards and how it drops down and let's you know you got a dog tag or something. That was the best part about bad company 1. I miss that. I wish they would bring that back. Bad company was fantastic because it was a light hearted shooter that was funny. Don't get me wrong bf4 is great but for the next BC I want it to go back to the first one.

[joab777]

It can b both. Don't make it slapstick...at least it was more real than the shit we get now. And don't blame ppl complaining for scrapping the open world aspects and copying CoD. Yeah...if u r gonna make a serious jaw dropping campaign to show off ur engine...don't make it some generic fight b/w the US and a terrorist organization in which u r basically on rails shooting at fish in a barrel. I loved the open nature of bad company. I loved the idea of a rogue group going after the gold...it is refreshing. Theres gotta b some good writera out there somewhere.

[The_KELRaTH]

It's not often I buy the same game for the PS3 and PC but BC2 this was one of them!

Besides the brilliant multi-player (and expansion pack), the single player campaign was so much fun all due to the characters.

BF3 on the other hand would have been better off just enabling offline skirmish modes (like in older BF titles) than that awful campaign.

BF4 - there was a campaign?

DICE need to get back to their roots to remind themselves what made the Battlefield games so great.
To date I can honestly say for close combat style games I've not found anything better than their BF 2 Special Forces expansion - what title since has used zip lines, grappling hooks, night vision etc.

Dice should take this expansion and update it to a full blown COD killer game - it had everything Cod did and then just so much more.

On the other hand it was the large map scale that made BF1942 so fantastic. Nearly everyone could use a vehicle at the same time. Flying was also so much more fun as there was the space on the map to fly around like a real flight game (B17 bomber was just brilliant).

Forget the single player campaign (if its going to be like the 2 previous BF ones), bring back AI skirmish mode and bring back the old BF map scale making sure there's plenty of vehicles, planes etc.

Keep Bad Company going with the fun SP campaign

If I were running DICE I'd even look seriously at re releasing BF2 and BF2142 including all the expansions with fully upgraded graphics, trophies etc and include a map / mod editor.

[SaturdayNightBeaver]

lol let the nerds think whatever they want , still lots of people love this game, and its great for being that way. want serious shooter? go advanced warfighter and stfu. and devs should not care what some idiots say about their stuff , they should continue being themselves and do it their way.

[Bolts-N-Rays1109]

Boy this is strange. I loved the Bad Company series, and I see people on forums asking for them to make another, yet here they say people don't want it.

[dirigiblebill]

Presumably they have access to actual marketing surveys. I agree that it seems strange, when you look at anecdotal evidence from inside the core community.

[Soldierone]

That stuff is normally so general or so wrong though. These surveys basically ask a general question, then EA gets a "target audience" and THAT audience is asked "whats more appealing?"

Look at Insomniac's game. Was all colorful and fun looking, EA "took a survey," the survey said "we want bland!!!!" so EA makes it bland. Then the game sells like crap. Why? The actual audience had no say, just the audience EA wanted to target, which in the end didn't bother buying the game either.

You'd think they would learn? Nah, "according to surveys" people still want bland.

[The_KELRaTH]

It's also quite possible this statement has come out just to see what gamers reactions are - so we're the marketing survey :)

[dirigiblebill]

"That stuff is normally so general or so wrong though."

What are you basing all that on? First-hand experience? I don't think it's really wise to presume or generalise about these things.

[kneon]

Why can't we have both? When I want a serious game I'll play one, when I want to play a less serious game I'll play that. If they choose to only make one then they are missing out on a sale as I'll just go elsewhere for such a game.

[FITgamer]

Bad Company 2 was my favorite FPS. Before they announced BF 4, myself, my friends, and the majority of BF players were salvating for a Bad Company 3 announcement.

[gcolley]

They wanted BF3 at the time, now with BF4 coming out so soon they want a change. This is not the CoD community.

[CapsLocke]

Look BF3 and BF4 was both serious, see how boring their campaigns are.

[kneon]

I quit after the first hour of BF4, glad I didn't pay for it.

But that doesn't mean serious can't be good and interesting, but BF4 wasn't for me.

[Hellsvacancy]

I've not even bothered with BF4 at all, BF3 was alright but not as fun a bad Company, BF4 looks exactly the same as BF3, which doesn't inspire me to want to play it

I hope we see a return to Bad Company, something tells me the next Battlefield game will be a sci-fi BF game, i hope nope not

[dillhole]

It wasn't the "not serious" that bothered me about the first Bad Company, it was the "not funny". There's a fine line. The humour was lame and it just got annoying. "Not serious" didn't apply to the gameplay anyway, just the dialogue in between the generic FPS campaign.

[Persistantthug]

I disagree.
I very much enjoyed the character dialog of BAD COMPANY, it was very well written. Such as when they go off on tangents about predator or pizza. It was almost TARANTINO'esque.

BF3 campaign, on the other hand, it was just very boring.

[quinten488]

People like bad company more, why is it so hard for them to understand that.

[Tzuno]

take out your head from your ass and smile from time to time you stressed human being.

[BLAKHOODe]

I LOVE the BF Bad Company games. I've asked and asked for another one.

[Getowned]

Huh, I liked actually how it wasn't serious, in fact I wish BC2 was more like BC1, I loved how the characters were in BC1. :P it was really fun. I enjoyed the Bad Company games more then the regular Battlefield games both in mp and in single player a lot more, I played bf3(pc)and went right back to bc2, surprised how many ppl play it still on pc, crazy amount of servers.

[ATiElite]

Natural Selection 2 whoa!

I haven't played it in a while, have they added more content!

[Getowned]

they've added a few new things, we got a new map a while back and a few changes :P I play this game almost everyday lol absolutely love it, its a real gem of a game some of the most fun playing MP I've had in a long time, there's a learning curve but its great!, also the devs are amazing the game gets so much support, I'm pretty sure there are some more maps on the way, some remade ns1 maps as well, just talking about it makes me want to play :P Aliens FTW!

[NarooN]

Yep. I'm not sure who the hell DICE/EA were looking at when they came to the conclusion that people didn't like Bad Company. I constantly see people talking about BC to this day and hoping that there's a third game.

I still find BC1 & BC2 more fun and interesting than BF3 & 4. Those two newer games were boring as hell to me, both in the MP and the SP.

[ATiElite]

Whatever! EA is full of Crap!

They Know Battlefield is the bigger title and just are downplaying BC to concentrate on BF which they re ruining.

I want Bad Company 3 in all it's glory and so do many other gamers.

Bad Company 3 will be great as long as EA ONLY makes it for PC-Ps4-XB1 therefore we wont have all the issues that plagued BF4!

[OrangePowerz]

EA trying to give BS reasons for not doing another Bad Company and pretending they don't make one because they "listen" to the players.

[Pintheshadows]

I honestly think EA made this up. Everyone I encountered loved the tone Bad Company had. It felt like a buddy movie set on the backdrop of a war.

Bad Company 3 is needed as BF3 and 4 are so devoid of peronality. And the campaigns in Bad Company were actually good as was the multiplayer. To me BC2 mp is better than 3 or 4.

[gcolley]

I remember it at the time, I remember being disappointed in the gaming community for preferring the same bland cliched crap and the producers saying they toned down BFBC2 because of the community feedback.

[Pintheshadows]

The first few days of the multiplayer in both BC and BC2 were so good. I loved both campaigns as well. They felt great to play and they had some sense of a challenge that wasn't just trial and error.

[Section8]

Agreed.

[Soldierone]

In my opinion its these gamers ruining games. Sure casuals do their share of ruining, but these people are ruining our games. Remember PS2 having all kinds of games, and a good majority of the popular titles were not serious. This is when animals and creatures were the characters(Sly, Oddworld, Beyond Good and Evil, Crash etc). Today we get "similar" games but everything has to be humans, and "cool" and "realistic." It gets boring.

Honestly how many military shooters do we need? At least Bad Company had a entertaining story to it, now its just like everything else, bland military shooter that wants to be a blockbuster action film yet also tries to say its "authentic"

[Pintheshadows]

I just think back to things like Okami. What a beautiful game. They used to be common, but whilst they exist this generation, they are few and far between.

[Soldierone]

Yeah, I honestly got a point this generation where I was literally un interested in everything. Then I think it was Disgaea or Saints Row 3 that brought me back in because they are outright fun.

When you go to a game store and its shooter this, military that, you walk out going "nah, don't really need anything."

[Pintheshadows]

That is why I play a lot of indies. They seem to quench my thirst for unique and beautiful ideas. To The Moon being the example I always use.

[Section8]

So you complain about FPS so why play them? There's a shit ton of other games out there to enjoy. So many. I could write infinite paragraphs but all games aren't for everyone but there's enough there where you wouldn't feel bogged down by shooters. Hence why indie games are so damn awesome because they have to be creatively different to be seen. It's time for you to step back and take a break from any shooter games and enjoy smaller titles. That's why my gaming library is so diverse. You need a break from certain games sometimes. Give yourself a week, 2 weeks and bounce back.

[Soldierone]

Where did I complain about FPS? I said its the "realistic" nature thats ruining games....

Take Ubisoft for example, with PS2 they had games like Beyond Good and Evil (characters), Oddworld (characters), and other games in these fantasy settings with diverse worlds. Today we get Assassins Creed, humans fighting humans based on an earth world.

[Section8]

@Soldier

If that's what you took from my statement then you need a longer break than I thought. You obviously need to stop playing games for a long time.

[gcolley]

I preferred it. Number 1 was hilarious and still better than any other BF campaign since.

[Oldman100]

The first Bad Company had the best campaign. I love how open ended each level was (why I also enjoyed the first Crysis over the others).

I thought the more linear campaign in BC2 was a step back. The campaigns in BF3 and BF4 don't even deserve acknowledgement. Although I did enjoy BF4 more than BF3 (I'll at least give 'em that).

[WeAreLegion]

No... Only bros would want that.

[1nsomniac]

It had the best multiplayer ever though!

[MrRet]

i think bad company 2 had the right balance of fun and seriousness
it would be cool, if eidos montreal or kojima productions, could help/assist dice, to make a better campaign in the next battlefield game
lol imagine soliders with upgrades/augmentations like adam jensen :)

[MrRet]

battlefield 2143 with deus ex and mgs influence :D

[MrRet]

sweatwater:"maybe its some kind of special military barrel, you know, like some kind real solid....metal...i dont know, like some new japanese thing" http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[moodgamer]

I prefer the Bad Company vibes.

[lpking2005]

How about DICE make a single player story in the same comedic way but with the 4 voices behind the YouTube Battlefield Friends series?

That would be so funny!

[EximiusNebula]

Anyone remember this from BC 2?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[tigertron]

BC2 had awesome multiplayer. It just lacked jets.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

Bad Company was a test sortie of the Frostbite destruction engine that ended up being more successful than they have hoped especially when compared to Battlefield 3 and 4 in terms of review. But now that they realize they can get high sales from releasing broken products and assure them with upcoming patches, EA decided to save money by investing in only one series.....

[Ashby_JC]

What I got from this article....

...Bad Company is not going to sell as many units as regular battlefield so why even make a 3rd entry into the series.

IMO I do want a BFBC 3. BUT with battlefield looking to be a every 2 years series. When would they release it and second WHEN would they even have time to make it???

If they were to make it ... IMO again they would really need to make it its own game. When playing it I dont want to feel like its reg BF with different skin..if that makes sense.

I have a feeling we will never see BFBC 3. But as long as they keep making Reg BF awesome...I am ok with this.

[alexkoepp]

I hated bad company, never in my life have a played a campaign that was so unfun and such a chore to complete. That goes for both titles in the series. Oh yeah and rush mode sucks pretty much and as far as I recall bad company started it. Terrible entries to the series, please don't bring bad company back to life

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

I don't like it so nobody else should enjoy it.

Flawless Logic

[Section8]

Stick to the ripped off series that is battlefield then. You're obviously a serious guy otherwise you would have liked BC.

[Section8]

If this series wasn't funny the Battlefield franchise would blow completely. It's bad enough BF4 ripped off COD Ghosts storyline almost word for word. There's nothing wrong with BC. Every FPS game can't be serious.

[alexkoepp]

Battlefield: 1942 not funny
Battlefield: 1943 not funny
Battlefield: Vietnam not funny
Battlefield: 2142 not funny
Battlefield: 2 not funny
Battlefield: 3 not funny
Battlefield: 4 not funny

and all were great games

I can also add:

Bad Company not funny
Bad Company 2 not funny

Just two painful campaigns, and attempts at humor that weren't funny

Where did you come up with if the series wasn't funny BF franchise would blow?

(Haven't played through Ghosts yet but if it is a story rip off word for word, BF4 did come out first, so Ghosts would be a BF4 rip off

[Angerfist]

Internet tough Guys probably.

[Skate-AK]

Maybe EA's dumb focus groups thought so. Not every shooter needs to be serious.

[r3f1cul]

life in my opinion is serious enough... i got bills to pay children to support i dont need all my games to be so damn serious.... i mean come on a good bit of comedy is welcomed in all aspects of life in my opinion... and when it boils down to it... WHY SO SERIOUS????