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PlayStation 4 CPU using AMD Turbo Core to go from 1.6GHz up to 2.75Ghz ?

For awhile there has been speculations about the 2.75GHz clock rate that showed up in the PS4 FCC Certification. Some speculated that it was just the clock rate of the Memory but today in a IGN PS4 review video the 2.75GHz clock rate has been shown to be the highest clock rate of the CPU with 1.6GHz being the base clock rate.

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lifeisgamesok4230d ago

Hmmm I'd think it would become too hot but good for PS owners if true

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II4230d ago

Doubtful but would be awesome if true.

cleft54230d ago

It's interesting how most of the stories about the PS4 is about how their is all this power in the console that wasn't even mentioned. That's the best sort of surprise.

UltimateMaster4230d ago

It's based off the IGN article.

Prime1574230d ago

@Cleft5

Not saying I disagree with you, however, this is very much like MisterX and his theoretical 2.1 TFlops math with ESRAM.

I'm skeptical of this on both sides.

CryofSilence4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

@Prime157

This is much more a physical possibility. It is extremely common for multicore chips to dynamically turbocharge, even in laptop and mobile processors. My 3 year old laptop with a first gen i7 onboard is capable of it. However, to my knowledge, there is no way RAM will increase FLOPS (Floating-point Operations Per Second), just the bandwidth to transmit the data. CPU/GPU create the FLOPS count. ;)

Edit: Perhaps you are referring to how the theoretical bandwidth limit of eSRAM in conjunction with DDR3 is over 200 GB/s? That is a physical possibility, but time will tell.

ChrisW4230d ago

Yes, it can go that high... Phenomenally higher if cooled with liquid nitrogen.

Will Sony ever make a patch to make it go that high? I strongly believe not. Because all games are built around the standardized GHz for optimal performance with least amount of problems.

pedrof934230d ago

Can someone show me the original source ?

Irishguy954230d ago

Why well said for you and not for lifeisgamesok? The only reason it wouldn't be put up is because of heat. The thing about 'overclocking' is that it brings on heat. And alot of it if you clock it too high for your cooling system to handle.

abzdine4230d ago

You want a futureproof console, here you go!!
Friday 29th cannot come soon enough

ajkula4230d ago

well, the turbo core tech, as mentionned, can lower the freq. to minimal uses, then higher the freq. of all cores up to a certain speed THEN to less threads sensitive applications, reduce the number of core activated and boost those remaining to the ceiling...
in no way it'll boost all 8 cores to 2.75, this would be toasting the proc...
there must be a precise ratio here, which i have no idea.
and a real question fans should ask themselves is, at which clock speed all 8 cores ceiling??

..instead of being doubtful about things everyone ignore here!
SINCE, it is factual that the jaguar is capable of "turbo core tech"
cheers

Consoldtobots4229d ago

this isn't some secret sauce, my 4 yr old laptop has the same type of core and can do the same thing.

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GarrusVakarian4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

Don't worry, Sony are hardware geniuses, they have all that tech in a tiny box and the power brick inside too.

http://www.planetextech.com...

140 degrees F (60C) after playing Killzone SF for 3 hours straight which is very good indeed.

Sitdown4230d ago

After unboxing my ps4, it slowly became apparent how hideous the ps3...I got my ps3 fat and ugly with the full intentions of hurting it's feelings. It's place in the entertainment cabinet now belongs to another.

majiebeast4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

Yeah my 6870 is idling now at 45-50 degrees celsius. If i start playing a game it goes up to atleast 70.

^

Phat PS3 is the BBW of consoles.

pyramidshead4230d ago

If they designed it to withstand the heat from the CPU going up to 2.75 then holy crap. So long XB1 CPU advantage. If true....no wonder Sony kept this number quiet :P

scott1824230d ago

Why the crap don't they just say what it runs at so people can stop with the rumors?

Themba764230d ago

my laptop runs hotter than that my laptop can get up to 91c

mkis0074230d ago

My pc rig with an oc'ed i7 920 3.6 ghz aa gtx 680 a gtx 660 and cooling with a corsair h70 has my temps at 40-50 C idle...heat is not going to be a problem, no matter how much people want it to.

In game those jump to around 64C

mxrider21994230d ago

i played for 29 hrs straight no over heating issues at all i was streaming too

ajkula4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

@scott182: simply because from their point of view AND a business intelligence point, it's none of yours business and you should care about the game quality first when you first think of buying an entertainment hardware, not the specs inside it...
if you remember the jaguar from atari, which had a dual highly capable processors for its time BUT also embended an old motorola 68000...
...that the devs preferdd to use from laziness...
whatever, just think in their place!

Consoldtobots4229d ago (Edited 4229d ago )

good stuff!!!

I use mine in landscape mode and it looks like that runs 10° cooler at peak.

ZBlacktt4229d ago (Edited 4229d ago )

Yes, this is why they have sold the most consoles on the planet. Why they come out with Slim and Super Slim lines!

Nice avie. I went to that concert in 86. Got a picture wearing the shirt from back then if you want to see it for the laughs, lol. Still and always metal to this very day!

\n/ o.o \m/

But yeah, I've played ACF up to 10 hours a day. Not a single issue as expected. That's playing for hours. Go eat, leave the console on... continue playing.

GarrusVakarian4229d ago (Edited 4229d ago )

@ZBlacktt

Man,i can't even express how jealous i am of you. Seriously huge Met fan here. I saw them last year, going to see them again whenever they come back here. They played so fast in 86 from the youtube vids, it was like 2X tempo.

Yeah PM me the pic lol (you have me on block though btw)

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Mosiac774230d ago

What great rumor and it will forever stay a rumor.

C-H-E-F4230d ago

Didn't they say something about a surprise upon opening up the ps4? Is this it? If not then ehh I guess i'll have to continuing playing Killzone Shadow Fall and 2k14 plus the other games I bought until someone unlock the surprise for me because frankly i'm to lazy to do it myself. :D

JsonHenry4230d ago

Too hot? It is under-clocked already from its typically stock running speed. My 8-core AMD CPU in my PC runs pretty close to this same pattern. It idles lower then when a game or application that is more demanding is started it jumps from like 3.6ghz or something to 4.2ghz.

Its pretty standard these days for AMD CPUs. Whether the PS4 does this or not I don't know. But it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say it is possible since the rest of AMDs desktop/laptop line up of CPUs all do this all day every day and have for a long time now.

Kleptic4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

^exactly...This shouldn't be too surprising...both AMD and Intel have base clocks with 'boost' multipliers when applications call for it...

thermal management is the only question...and considering jaguars are low tdp, low heat units to begin with, i'd be very surprised if a turbo setting of 2.75 makes some outrageous difference in heat output...

however, people need to keep that in context...a cpu's frequency has zero effect on its instructions per cycle limit...and jaguar cores are horrendously bad in this area (not a big deal for a console, as the OS is simple)...but having very low IPC figures do not get very tangible differences from overclocking...

So...just saying...this could be true...but even then, you'd never know the difference...the cpu's between the xbox one and PS4 will perform nearly identically, even if one is clocked slightly differently...

the new consoles are gpu-centric devices, any performance differences between them will ALWAYS be because of the gpu differences...

Cernunnos4229d ago

People forget that turbo only applies to one core. So the other 7 cores will still run at 1.6ghz. That's why the heat output does not increase significantly.

frostypants4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

Yeah...most processors can technically be overclocked beyond the speed they are initially set to. However the clock at which they are set tends to be below capacity in order to maintain safe operating temperatures. That's why when PC modders OC the CPU, one generally also throws in all sorts of additional cooling mechanisms...more fans, better thermal paste, bigger heat sink, etc. Sony won't bump the clock speed of this processor...even if later batches of the chip are more capable of managing it safely, they wouldn't fracture the capabilities of their install base that way.

ipach4230d ago

theoretically, the non-used cores partially help dissipate some of the heat and enable the chip to operate at those speeds. that's how it works on their PC CPUs at least

BallsEye4229d ago

It alrady heats up over 60 degrees at normal clock. Why would anyone belive it can go up from 1.6 to 2.75 without overheating?? You guys are unbelievable.

Madderz4229d ago

Says the guy with 2 bubbles.

BallsEye4229d ago (Edited 4229d ago )

@Madderz

Bubbles on n4g only mean if you're a hardcore sony fanboy (tons of bubbles) or not (almost none) it got nothing to do with facts or truth.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

You can read numbers, right?
61 celsius - 141 f after 20 mins of KZ

now where is my bubble up for stating a fact? According to you I should get some.

RegorL4229d ago

1) 60 degrees is not a problem unless you put it in a box, resulting in 60 degrees air intake...

2) How do you know KZ runs on normal clock?
If any game might utilize boost already it is KZ...

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Letros4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

All modern processors do "turbo" for reduced core processing, been around for ages...

indysurfn4230d ago

he made two statments only one of them is correct. It has been around for ages, but not all modern have turbo, not all by a longshot!

frostypants4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

No, he isn't. In processor terms, Turbo is a marketing term, not a technical one.

Statix4230d ago

Not in consoles. Everyone assumed that the CPUs in these new consoles just ran at a fixed base clockrate.

R1V3N4230d ago

assumed, key word. it would be like the multi threading in my laptop 2.8 ghz single core apps 2 ghz for all multi threaded apps

Volkama4230d ago

Indeed, turbo generally downclocks other cores to boost a single core. On a PC this is a way to get better performance from programs that hammer one thread alone. It is of limited use in the consoles where you'd expect games to be properly multi-threaded anyway.

Still, additional options for developers can't be perceived as a negative.

NarooN4230d ago

Turbo boost as a concept has been around for a long time, but not all modern CPU's support it, not by a long shot. There are more CPU's than just x86 Intel and AMD processors, and not even all modern Intel/AMD chips support it.

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ATiElite4230d ago

And it's less efficient and less powerful than an Intel so who cares.

Not really talking about the PS4 but just AMD cpu's in general

DragonKnight4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

Why do you make pointless comments like this?

NarooN4230d ago

What do Intel CPU's have to do with this, lol? Absolutely nothing.

indysurfn4230d ago

Since we are comparing xbox one to PS4 I have to wonder. You do know that Microsoft has the same brand cpu in the xbox one dont you?

You said not 'really' talking about, but if that was true you should have said not talking about xbone, and PS4. But you didn't.

LordDhampire4229d ago

No they don't microsoft might be based off same processor but since they added esram to the die it would produce to much heat

Magicite4230d ago

have u made benchmarks on it so u can prove your point?

Persistantthug4229d ago (Edited 4229d ago )

ATiElite makes pointless comments like these as his little subtle attempt to jab at consoles.

He's been angry for years with how consoles continue to get first class treatment, while PC gaming is relegated to second class treatment among the AAA budget developers and industry.

ATiElite is a bitter gamer and bitter n4g member....... basically.

ATiElite4228d ago

Ha ha your too funny! AMD's suck NO MATTER WHAT THEY R IN!

http://www.n2g.us/2013/11/g...

there goes your second class right there!

PC we play games NOT talk about them!

Persistantthug4228d ago

You're not playing GTA 5.....not on your PC.
Rockstar treats PC gaming as if it's second class.

Sorry.

ATiElite4228d ago

How?

what Game besides Red Dead has NOT been on the PC from Rockstar?

GTAV PC will arrive when PS4-XB1 versions arrive.

your statements are so DUMB. Do you even think before you type....apparently NOT!

Persistantthug4227d ago

Even if Rockstar does eventually bring GTA 5 to the PC, it would still be late, and thus, SECOND CLASS treatment.

Rockstar doesn't even care enough about PC gaming to be bothered bringing it on time.
Rockstar isn't the only one either.
I'm sorry but it is what it is.

ATiElite4227d ago

is GTAV on PS4 or XB1 right NOW?

NO

So PS4 and XB1 are second class too right according to YOU, you stupid idiot.

you are so friggin STUPID! stop talking to me and go away. go play TLOU for the 99th time as you don't even have a PS4 yet.

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GoldenMonkey354230d ago

Would it make a difference? the console is still underpowered just like the xbox one. I give the wii u a pass just because Nintendo seems to be the only one out of the big 3 to understand consoles cant compete with the pc market on trying to make super duper graphics and all that other stuff sony and ms try to brag about. Instead they focus on an affordable console that can make nice clean graphics with super fun games focusing on gameplay.

Orbilator4230d ago

really? i have yet to see gears3 or killzone 3 beaten apart from res on a pc so stop talking utter nonsense

Jovanian 4230d ago

"i have yet to see gears3 or killzone 3 beaten apart from res........... and framerate and texture quality and anti aliasing and performance and tesselation and DX11 features and aesthetic"

Fixed that for you. Look at any high spec PC game and you will see it beats those two games in pretty much all categories I listed. Same for pretty much every other PS4 or XB1 'next gen' game which can barely handle 1080p and barely meet 60 fps, PC standards since for like a decade

starchild4230d ago

That's because you are blind or looking through special fanboy goggles. Even the best looking games on PS4 like KZSF still don't look as good as the better looking games on PC.

Gears 3 and Killzone 3 look very poor compared to the best PC games.

Statix4230d ago

They may look better, but Killlzone 3 or Gears of War 3 do not look "poor" by any means, even by today's standards.

solidboss074230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

Guess what. I spend a few hundred on a great console, and I am set for nearly a decade (PS4). I like women, sport and other things that require money, like life. I don't need to spend thousands just to up the resolution on a PC version of a console game.
Wow, look! I am playing 6 different WOW games at once on my amazing rig, while I4 internet pages are open...... yeah...... that's great, why don't you step outside and make some Vitamin D?

JsonHenry4230d ago

Then, Orbilator, you know NOTHING of PC gaming. Because those games were beat BEFORE they came out on the console of choice. (in terms of graphics fidelity, I'm not speaking as the "fun" factor of the games)

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Soldierone4230d ago

Crisis proves graphics isn't everything.

Jovanian 4230d ago

ah yes...the classic sony response when they are called out on their hypocrisy for championing graphics when comparing their hardware to the XB1, but suddenly having a complete reversal in opinion when comparing their hardware to even a medium spec PC. I don't think I'd be able to handle that kind of dissonance

ThatCanadianGuy5144230d ago

Ah yes, the old PC fanboy wet dream of elitism, compare a machine that swaps specs at will vs a console with fixed specs.Even tho we all know it makes no sense, let's do it anyways to make us feel better about that $400 we blew on a GPU.

sorane4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

I could say the same about Killzone which is even worse in both graphics and gameplay.

Jovanian 4230d ago

@above

"Even tho we all know it makes no sense"

I don't see why consoles deserve special treatment and are suddenly not allowed to be compared to another piece of hardware that is used for gaming

starchild4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

Ah yes, the old console fanboy standby of screaming "elitism", while they turn around and act like true elitist douchebags to other console gamers. This is especially true of you Sony fanboys. Hypocrisy at its finest.

The only difference is, there really is fairly minimal difference between most of the consoles, while the PC is objectively far ahead.

Edit: sorane's right, you guys need to quit bashing Crysis all the time. If anything, Killzone fits that description better.

Metacritic scores:

Crysis = 91
Crysis Warhead = 84
Crysis 2 = 86
Crysis 3 = 76
Series average = 84.25

Killzone = 70
Killzone Liberation = 77
Killzone 2 = 91
Killzone 3 = 84
Killzone Mercenary = 78
Killzone Shadow Fall = 73
Series average = 78.83

Soldierone4230d ago

Yeah we are happy about graphics and what we get out of it, but it doesn't mean everything. We also get exclusives and get excited for those too, when is the last time a PC fan was going nuts for games? Never, its always "well my 2k dollar computer can run it at two more frames a second than yours!!!!"

Yet when we talk games, PC fans just go "who cares, it'd run better on pc...." Guess what, you don't get it. You Don't like Killzone, yet you love Crysis because it "looks amazing" makes no sense.... No one on consoles cares at all that you spent so much money to run your PC at max settings, not a single console fan at all.

Sony fans and Xbox fans go at it with each other, then PC fans try to be the "elites" in it all. Stop, just go play your games and stop crying consoles hold you back.

dantesparda4230d ago

Oh the irony of starchild calling anyone a fanboy. And yes the PC is a more capable platform.

jebabcock4230d ago

Pc gaming is an atrocious experience out side of the fact that most of the games I like aren't developed for the pc... I also don't like having to buy a new graphics card Everytime I want to buy a game new and then still having compatibility issues or awful glitching that may or may not ever get fixed.

A console provides good graphics, reliable gameplay, and an Un matched game library for those who don't want to dump a large sum of cash into a pc to get a mediocre game experience with the potential for better graphics...

Statix4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

@starchild

Lol at the "fairly minimal difference" statement between the Xbox One and PS4. How is 100% greater number of pixels rendered in Call of Duty: Ghosts, and 60% greater in Battlefield 4 considered minimal? Are you too ignorant to acknowledge the massive difference between 1080p and 720p?

Fact of the matter is, PC hardware and console hardware cannot be directly compared. Consoles are fixed, closed architectures, while PC is open-architecture with an infinitely variable number of possible configurations. Comparing the two on a raw-power spec basis is moot, ESPECIALLY at this early stage when developers have yet to gain familiarity with optimizing for these new systems.

To lend you a bit of much-needed perspective, the PS3 is 7-year old hardware, equipped with an ancient 7800GTX GPU, yet it is still capable of pulling off gorgeous looking games like The Last of Us. That should tell you something about the potential longevity of these systems.

Srelhow4230d ago

A gamer is someone who loves games and is willing to buy any piece of hardware that can expand there ability to play games and the choice of what to play on is there's alone to make. PC, PS3, 360, WII, WII U, PS4, and XB1 is just hardware for us to game on. So please can someone explain to me what the fuss is all about. Does the hardware make the game or does the game make the hardware. Does it matter that Joe plays on a Playstation and Sam plays Xbox or George likes PC, NO.... As long as they are getting a gaming experience they enjoy. By the way people can own more than one piece of hardware to game on you know. Right?????

SO PEOPLE, ALL GAMING PEOPLE, BE A GAMER ENJOY YOUR GAMES, AND THE HARDWARE YOU PLAY THEM ON. IT'S FUN. SO STOP WITH THE BLUE IS NOT RED OR GREEN, DUH WE HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT, ALL OF US HAVE, EVERYONE OF US. GET WHAT YOU WANT, TO PLAY THE GAMES YOU WANT.

WeedyOne4230d ago

Crysis 1 was a very good game, its the sequels that sucked.

webeblazing4230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

I don't think anyone brag about crisis and most of the comment here are coming out people a$$ cause the cant come up with a better argument. we see it all the time with the wii and wiiU the have the best exclusives but get downplayed buy ps fanboys. pc have a ton of exclusives that's not mmos and pc gamers don't forces their opinion of what games they like down people throat either.

pc have too many games too that's why people dont go nuts over one game. pc gamers heavily criticize games when its called for, and the main reason yall go nut over ps exclusive is because it made by sony and most people on this site is fanboys. point like I said look at Nintendo do you here Nintendo fans bashing people or saying their exclusive games is the greatest and ps has no games.

if sony next console would be a modular system that you can upgrade and swap out components everyone on this site would be jumping up and down stating how revolutionary it is.

and you don't need to upgrade your pc have to be ancient for that to happen you need a GTX 260 for ac4 that came out in 2008 so update is the same as consoles with more benefits

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AceBlazer134230d ago (Edited 4230d ago )

Must hurt you huh? pc being ignored by the masses while these two weaker consoles come and take the spotlight for themselves. must be boring in pc land, no one to compete with. GTFO and go to the pc articles

cause im sure everyone just can't wait to get the next big title on their pc. pc as a gaming platform is overshadowed by consoles maybe because they are specifically for gaming

Jovanian 4230d ago

" pc being ignored by the masses"

I'm pretty sure there are more homes in america that own a PC than there are that own a console...

LeCreuset4230d ago

How many of those PC's are being used for gaming?

LordNikon4230d ago

@Swadian

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the next-gen consoles being the center of attention for gaming news this past few months...

Anyway, dude. We get it. PC is awesome. I'm not even sure why you're trying so hard here.

sorane4230d ago

@lecreuset

Does this answer your question?

http://i.imgur.com/ROM1wSM....

Now how about you show me how many people are gaming on your platform of choice :)

LeCreuset4230d ago

@LordNikon

Their whole argument is utterly stupid. Of course people are going to compare one console experience to another console experience. That makes sense. If you are in the market for a console, you are going to compare the specs of those consoles to see which is the better console. These arguments that they are presenting are comparing apples to oranges and are about as dumb as trying to compare console gaming to gaming on a mobile phone.

Jovanian 4230d ago

@Lord

idunno, I'm just real tired of the hypocrisy of sony fans constantly hounding the XB1 for being so inferior and then turn around and act like graphics don't matter when toe to toe with a machine that is actually better than it. In reality the graphical difference between the XB1 and PS4 is marginal at best, and the only real difference is between a next gen console and a mid/high end PC. People act like the teeny tiny difference between Xb1 and PS4 is like the grand canyon, and then the difference between the PS4 and PC is suddenly irrelevant.

LeCreuset4230d ago

@sorane

Not really, actually. For one, you only showed a graphic, but lets take that at face value. I want to know how many of those PC's are being used for gaming. Technically, you could play a game of solitaire or good ol' minesweeper on a PC and be classified as a PC gamer. I want to know how many people are using their PC's as dedicated gaming devices. How many people are keeping their PC's up to date with the latest tech to play the latest games? That's what I'm asking. And of those people, how many of them are BUYING games?

webeblazing4230d ago

what type of question is that "How many people are keeping their PC's up to date with the latest tech to play the latest games?" who does this serious why do people post dumb question or just state dumb things on this site. it must be to downplay people choices. why would you need to keep you gfx card in you pc "always" up to date. seriously most of people argument on here is BS I started getting more into pc gaming like 4yrs ago and the gfx card I had can play all the games of today. it cost me $650 with everything except tv and windows pirated it(didn't feel like calling to put os on new pc).

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isa_scout4230d ago

Yeah, but tell me bro how was Uncharted and The Last Of Us on your super duper PC? Oh, you didn't play those games?Why? Oh, you don't have a console? There there don't cry, just run along now troll.
Every system whether it's a PC,PS3,360,WII, WII U,PS4, or XOne has good,fun, beautiful games. Don't look like a jackass by saying things that only a jackass would say.

hesido4230d ago

You talk about Nintendo being affordable and omit the fact that performance per dollar is WAY higher for PS and XBox products, compared to nintendo products. You get way less performance per dollar on nintendo, and you talk about it as if it is a good thing.

webeblazing4230d ago

system design is different for consoles Nintendo knows this that's his point that why they always try new things for gameplay purposes

nin >> lets mix it up try a new way to play (wii mote, new remote, light gun, glove, etc get it).

sony and ms >> lets just upgrade it(new gfx card, new cpu, more ram, etc get it)

tontontam04230d ago

for a $400 machine I think it is not underpowered.

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Sony PS5 Era Profits Soar Past $13 Billion, Outpacing All Prior PlayStation Generations

Sony’s PS5 era has generated over $13 billion in profits, surpassing the combined earnings of PS1–PS4, with $136 billion in sales.

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lukasmain2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Their recent Playstation revenue is also more than Xbox and Switch combined, obviously in large part due to 3rd party sales.

Christopher2d ago

I mean, if Sony is keeping third parties happy, kind of feels like a winning method.

GamingExplained1011d 8h ago

I mean they have to, since they have 2 exclusives anyone cared about this generation, and those are now on PC. The rest is this creatively bankrupt string of remakes and remasters, taking advantage of the creativity of developers past efforts, and laying off teams creative side since all that work has been done already by previous teams.

By far the least creative generation ever.

lukasmain1d 6h ago

@ Gaming-NEW-Troll account

"those are now on PC"

In that case. Xbox is Playstation's competition. MS have ZERO exclusives. ZERO. Nothing. Nada. Not a single exclusive.

Playstation has Astrobot. Demon's Souls, Astrobot Playroom, Gran Turismo 7, still not going to PC. They got Death Stranding 2 coming out in 3 days, NOT ON PC. Ghost of Yotei, not on PC.

That is 6 real exclusives MORE than Microsoft. Microsoft's Xbox is Playstation's competition. So lets compare.

I mean you brought it up.

Or does being "creatively bankrupt" not count when you have certain console exclusives going to PC years after they were released? In that case Returnal. Ratchet And Clank. Spiderman. Miles Morales. Silent Hill 2. And the list goes on

IRetrouk2d ago

Kinda always been that way if you look at previous gens, exclusives are important but they aint the main revenue generator.

Reaper22_2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

.While that is impressive. Microsoft made 13 billion in one quarter. Making up facts doesn't make them true.

Mmmkay2d ago

microsoft is not xbox. a bot should know that by now. you have been told this bs 1000 times on this site alone.

OlderGamer171d 22h ago

Yeah Microsoft but Xbox on the other hand.....

Aloymetal1d 22h ago

Your defense of Microsoft is only highlighting Lord Phil's and the lame MS mismanagement. Since you're talking about MS as a whole, imagine having trillions in the bank and still losing to ''tiny'' Sony PS and Ninty. It doesn't get any more lame than that.

Christopher1d 17h ago

If what Microsoft made as a whole was all that mattered, we would still have Windows Phones and Zunes. I would love to see Xbox' operating profits. Love to see it.

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thorstein1d 23h ago

I prefer Playstation over Xbox when it comes to consoles but how does this news justify their layoffs?

Shane Kim1d 23h ago

But the execs brother. You got to think about them. How could they otherwise buy yet another mansion and yacht?

raWfodog1d 21h ago

People are generally paid for the work they are doing. Layoffs generally occur when there is no work for them to do (project cancelled, business slowing down, etc). I’ve been laid off from two jobs during my 40+ years of working so I know about these things. A company is not going to just keep paying people if there is no work for them to do, no matter how much profits they made.

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MIDGETonSTILTS172d ago

And this is why the game output for ps5 has been a tad slower…

1) they needed to be… games take longer to develop, and they’d burn out their teams trying to maintain the same pace as ps3.

2) they can afford to… games cost more than ever to push boundaries, so Sony had to figure out a way to match Xbox’s clever profit strategies in order to afford to continue to innovate and take risks.

lukasmain1d 21h ago

So much time was wasted on those Live Service shits. Glad they learned their lesson and have scaled that way back. Still haven't killed it, but I like it being in the background and not at the forefront

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 16h ago

Honestly, I love Helldivers 2 so much that I can forgive them for over investing in GaaS. At least they got one gem from the endeavor.

And I still dream of Factions releasing one day.

I don’t hate GaaS inherently, most are just implemented poorly.

Reaper22_2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@ s2killinit

Thats xbox which includes other services. The playstion division also includes other services as well. Its mostly playtion but not all playstation. What's up with all the double standards around here.

Chevalier2d ago

Yeah double standards like some idiots who got to talk about unrelated profits as a talking point. Wish those damn parrots could stay on topic with game related profits.

Next thing these idiots will talk about is something unrelated like Nintendo made more off the Mario movie than all of Xbox studios TV/movie endeavors combined you know?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Deathdeliverer2d ago

@Chevalier

Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number.

“The sales of windows professional on the other hand trounces god of war sales” 😂

Reaper22_1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is. Tencent is no.1 in profits. Buts that's ok because unlike Tencent and Microsoft, Sony isn't in it for the money, right.🤔

pwnmaster30001d 21h ago

That’s what Xbox fanboys do. They’ve been doing this since Xbox one.

They will use all of MS, one of the biggest company in the world and play it like every dollar they earn comes from Xbox just to one up PlayStation.
Is actually pretty sad.

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Chevalier2d ago

"Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number."

Guys we're off topic here you know? Can someone bring us back on topic and tell us how much revenue Xbox studios does for movies and TV? Pretty sure we should also discuss how much Nintendo stands to make at Universal studios on Nintendo land and the rides should be a hot ticket this summer.

"Ouch! hahaha no wonder reaper wanna hide behind profits made by windows XD"

Yeah idiots with some sort of inferiority complex needs to get their win somewhere though. But wait shouldn't we get back on topic guys? Like seriously how much money do you think Fallout Season 2 will bring in?!

Reaper22_1d 19h ago

Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts. At first the narrative was Microsoft isn't going to make the money back from the ABK deal to now their profits wouldn't be as high if they didn't get the deal. This very topic is part of the reason why the deal was secured. Sony's dishonesty and reluctance to tell the truth about how much money they're making and lying about how much this deal would hurt their business. That strategy failed. They're are making a lot of money. No doubt about it and its good for the industry but don't get butthurt when Microsoft post their profits and you guys see they are also making a lot of money as well.

CrashMania1d 19h ago

@reaper.

Microsoft don't reveal Xbox profits, sales numbers, or gamepass numbers, I wonder why that is?

You call Sony dishonest but at least they don't hide and obfuscate meaningful playstation numbers like MS do with Xbox.

IRetrouk1d 18h ago

Reaper stop lol, only one company hides that info and it ain't sony....

Chevalier1d 22h ago

"All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is."

Nah all you did was confirm you're an idiot.

Reaper22_1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

You seem to be fluent in idiocy. Not everyone speaks it. So next time speak slowly and clearly so we all can understand. Getting emotional doesn't really make you smarter. Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says.🫡

Chevalier1d 15h ago

"Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts"

🤡 What facts? 🤣

Please share with everyone your idiocy

What does Xbox make in revenue and profit? What are their sales? How much money does Gamepass cost them? Oh right you got ZERO numbers to post.

"Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says."

Says the idiot who can't even tell the difference between Microsoft and Xbox? Lmao. Seriously all you're showing everyone again is how much of an uninformed parroting idiot you are.

But go ahead and post your evidence! Oh right again ZERO from a ZERO. Absolutely 💯 hilarious to see you stumble like the idiot you are.

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Npugz72d ago

Only because of games prices otherwise it’s the worst generation in PlayStation history especially for games

Reaper22_2d ago

Thats true. The article did mention game and prices were a reason. Its also shows their greed is no different than Microsoft. Laying off all those people but yet bragging about profits and still tried to stop ABK deal. What the hell!

MatrixxGT2d ago

Closing studios, layoffs, leadership changes, PS plus increases, multiple game cancellations and delays, total flops like concord. Slowest release of first party games of any generation and they just shut down PS stars I guess because it was costing to much.
Yet they announce record profits…..the greed here is insane, MS and Nintendo too. All of them milking gamers and we just keep lapping it up like a blood hound for a meal.
Them tariffs are really hitting them hard I see.

Deathdeliverer1d 23h ago

Well a part of running a business is a tight grip on that P&L sheet. In project management. It’s a known fact that the farther into a project you go, the more costly the corrections. Having something reach the definition of done, the end of the road, and it’s hated is a monumental loss of money. As games are usually made iteratively it’s like how was this not caught and course corrected several times before this point. Sony is definitely known as trusting and allows teams to make the games they want to make. They “trust the process”. The caveat to that big budget and freedom is if it bombs, especially if it’s your first game, you’re outta there. They have shareholders/stakeholders to keep happy. Where as normally a done game like Concord would give ROI as it was out in the wild. The cost of the project is recouped and turned into profit or delivered whatever value they wanted. If the game is now NOT coming out, how do they get that money back and stay profitable? By not paying wages for that team over a course of time that would have still been on payroll working on the next potential bomb, DLC for a dead game, and essentially costing more money.
It sadly isn’t greed, it’s business. They release these great profits because 1) it’s enticing for more stakeholders to invest, and 2) Despite failures they are still balancing the books and turning record setting profits.
How many live service games died at various stages of development? They are still this profitable? Imagine if the games came out and were hits to add onto the profits?

Christopher1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

So, you're saying that over $10B of this is from $10 to $20 software price increases? Zero to do with increased market reach? Massive MTX from third-party games?

Vithar2d ago

where are the "Sony is in trouble" sayers? LOL

Chevalier1d 23h ago

They're talking about Microsoft quarterly profits like any true gamer would be doing.

Aloymetal1d 22h ago

Oh, that's coming, it's a mandatory thing just wait for next gen and you'll see infinite articles from the shills and the green fanbase saying ''tHiS GeN WiL Be dIfFerEnT''

stonecold31d 14h ago

over twitter xbox fanboy you tube are saying saying sony is broke cant afford warner bros.

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PlayStation The Concert Announces U.S.Tour Dates

The tour is coming to the states as new dates have been revealed.

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Welcome teamLFG to the PlayStation Studios family

teamLFG rallies developers from across the industry to bring to life an ambitious incubation project.

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darthv7244d ago

sounds like more live service stuff....

Obscure_Observer44d ago

Definitely.

Looks like they haven´t abandoned their live service plans after all.

Christopher44d ago

"Our first game is a team-based action game that draws inspiration from fighting games, platformers, MOBAs, life sims, and frog-type games. Players will inhabit a lighthearted, comedic world set in brand-new, mythic, science-fantasy universe. We can’t wait to reveal more."

At least it's not an extraction shooter. It's team-based, so not likely my thing. But perhaps it will at least add something new to the current slew of MP games out there?

YourMommySpoils44d ago

What's the LFG stand for?... Les. Oh, let's not go there.

darthv7244d ago

..well their definition is: The “LFG” in “teamLFG” stands for “Looking For Group.”

staticall44d ago

At least it's not «LandFill Gas»

-Foxtrot44d ago

"industry veterans who have shipped titles like Destiny, Halo, League of Legends, Fortnite, Roblox, and Rec Room"

"and richly social virtual worlds"

"where players can find friendship, community, and belonging"

"We will make immersive multiplayer worlds"

"but throughout live service as we continue to grow the game and community for years to come"

"Our first game is a team-based action game that draws inspiration from fighting games, platformers, MOBAs"

Jesus. Does Sony ever learn? Like if they want to partner with them that's cool and all but buying the studio right off the bat? It's insane thinking after all the money they've just lost from Concord, not to mention the lack of actual hype for Marathon. Who is making the decisions here?

ravens5244d ago

This is their main multiplayer studio now. Hopefully nomore pullin teams like Santa Monica, Bluepoint, Naughty Dog etc into stupid multiplayer endeavors.

P_Bomb44d ago

Yeah, I’m not feelin’ this new project tbh. Another live service?

SonyStyled44d ago

They didn’t buy the studio. They created it

-Foxtrot44d ago

Buying it or not they still had to put a lot of money into it

They could have created a new studio to reboot some older titles or ones inspired by them. A JRPG like Legend of Dragoon, a first person shooter like Resistance or a platformer like Jak and Daxter.

TheColbertinator44d ago

The only way Sony will learn is through pain.

Extermin8or3_44d ago

Thry didn't buy the stufio they created the studio. Big difference.

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TripleIris_Josh44d ago

Can't believe they killed Japan Studio, London Studio, and Pixelopus for this, Destiny, and Concord.

pwnmaster300044d ago

I get the rest but studio Japan is basically just team Asobi

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