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Microsoft VP: 'play the games, not the resolution'

One of the big controversies leading up to Xbox One's launch is what's (unfortunately) being called "resolutiongate." Major multiplatform games are running at a lower resolution on Xbox One than PS4, which calls into question the console's capabilities. Microsoft Studios VP Phil Spencer has defended Xbox One, saying gamers shouldn't focus on the numbers, but the experience.

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sigfredod4236d ago

seems that sales projections are lower than expected for MS

xHeavYx4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

People can refer to the past all they want to downplay specs, but this is 2014, specs are more important than what certain people want to admit.
Spencer is just saying "don't disregard our weaker console"
It was all about the graphical power and how good games look when COD looked better on the 360, now that the tables have turned, all of the sudden specs don't matter anymore.
By the way, better specs not only give you prettier graphics, but you can do better physics, more AI and such

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mewhy324236d ago

Of course Phil wants people to not think about specs...i mean microsoft is charging 100.00 more for a greatly inferior piece of hardware. If everyone thought about it hard enough they couldn't give the xbone away.

Eonjay4236d ago

If resolution doesn't matter... we would have this article:

http://n4g.com/news/1389173...

mikeslemonade4236d ago

^ Raptar

It did matter that's why the 360 sold more copies. And take a look at the pre-orders right now. PS4 is higher. The negative PR is just going to snowball against the X1. Right now you may say it isn't a big deal but eventually you will see.

kneon4236d ago

@raptar

But with PS3 and 360 the differences between the multi-plat games were quite small, this gen the difference is quite large.

Pushing twice as many pixels at the same or better frame rate is pretty significant.

Killjoy30004236d ago

Raptar, you're dumb. That's when PS3 was near impossible to develop for. Now, PS4 is easier to develop for than the X1, and more powerful at that. You fail hard.

mikeslemonade4236d ago

And one more thing.. If you go back in look the specs for COD on 360 and PS3 were closer. I think the two systems were running the game native at 640p. The difference were mainly in the textures and the 360 had a slight advantage in the frames per second.

Now PS4 1080p vs X1's 720p that is a even bigger gap.

felidae4236d ago

PS4 has a large block of GDDR5 which is great for displaying a high resolution image, doesn't mean that image is going to look great, and on top of this the CPU is equally important particularly for streaming the textures to the GPU via the RAM, and if the RAM is not best suited to the CPU then it will miss cycles, which you guessed it, shows up as dropped frames per second. There is a reason why PC's are mostly DDR3 and GDDR5 on the GPU, you need both really for balance. MS got it right and given the time with the new kit they'll get that resolution up just like Turn 10 have, and 343 will get Halo 5 at 1080p native 60FPS as well.

UltimateMaster4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

Microsoft VP: 'play the games, not the resolution'
Yeah! Shut up and enjoy your crap! /s

Eonjay4236d ago

If you get a PS4, you can play both.

GTgamer4236d ago

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me why we are buying these Next gen consoles why not stick to current gen since resolution doesn't matter :/

OrangePowerz4236d ago

@idontcare

I don't think that MS got it right. The ESRAM with 32mb is too small to make for the disadvantage of the DDR3.

MS went with DDR3 for the multi media stuff and the 3 OS.

Sevir4236d ago

As he said, I'll "play the games..." on PS4!

Simple as that! You can con your fanbase and consumers into buying a more expensive console that performs remarkably less than the competition.

Ezz20134236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

""""Micros oft VP: 'play the games, not the resolution""

really ?!
was he able to say that with straight face ?!

ok i will play both on ps4 along with my gaming pc
thank you sir...thank you very much for your good advice

ZeroX98764236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

for me, I'm getting more performance for my money on the PS4 than the Xbox 1. Last gen lasted quite a while(lifetime) and I want this one to be the same.

If Halo, Dead Rising or Forza are series that you absolutely wants to play, well you should obviously buy a X1 over the PS4.

This is the first time I'm buying sony's console first. the last 2 generations, I started with the Xbox brand and switched halfway through to playstation both times (xbox->PS2, 360->PS3)...
And I'm glad I did the switch each time!

Boody-Bandit4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

Hey Phil
Build a gaming console, not a TV companion.

Sorry pal but Sony gets it. You guys don't.
So by purchasing a PS4 I will have the best of both.

kickerz4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

Go outside and kick a ball or something. Goshh some of you guys need a life. It's a $500 gaming machine to have fun on. Your obviously not gonna buy an xb1. So what's the point of all this negative BS

UltimateMaster4236d ago

Microsoft VP: 'play the games, not the resolution'
Buy a Wii U.

Gekko364236d ago

@BigBoned... sorry xHeavYx :D

I think @Raptar's got you there.

First rule of debate.. keep your arms still when they're under the table.

I think yours were jiggling like mad and then stopped suddenly.

Thing is, while your arms were jiggling Raptar owned your arse!

badz1494236d ago

FINALLY! they conceded defeat! let's just hope there will be no more hiding behind lies after this!

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badkolo4236d ago

first off not one game has been reviewed so no the multiplat games dont look better on the ps4, thats just guessing and specuakltion, so far we see ryse kicking arse on the x1 which is better then anything on the ps4 at launch, so lets wait for the reviews to kick in, granted there might be a game or 2 that might fair better resolution wise but lets wait for the actual games and not your wishes, when they are reviewed then you can come here and moan. until then there has been only talk of lesser resolution like in bs4 case which many argue looks better on x1 ./ so lets wait and see , many of you are just hoping but ryse tells me x1 is a beast. lets not base this off of call of duty either since everyone is in agreement they suck for both systems since everyone here hates cod, wait n see

UltimateMaster4236d ago

I'd buy the best posible hardware.
If that means it's also cheaper, the more the better.
I mean, there's still some kind of positive for the Xbox One, you can use MP3 and DNLA. But if you already own a PS3 or Xbox 360, I don't know why you wouldn't use those instead. So I don't see this as a deal breaker.

Still, it's a stupid move from Sony to remove existing features.

LonChaneyTV4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

@ xHeavYx "People can refer to the past all they want to downplay specs, but this is 2014, specs are more important than what certain people want to admit. "

you would actually get a PC if specs were more important to you. In 2 years time after consoles hit, you could get 3 R9 290s and be 16x ahead of the consoles for dirt cheap.

xHeavYx "yeah but specs don't matter when comparing them to PCs, they're also more expensive!!!"

Consoles themselves are made up of PC parts, mid ranged parts...who better to compare them to than their originators?

And Consoles are more expensive, 10 brand new games is $600 + tax. (not including online services.) you will also be charged top cash even when game's graphics become dated.

Also not having backwards compatibility means you have to buy new games to support that console, every time.

I wonder how much overcompensating PlayStation gamers will be in 2019? In the generation after when competition increases 10 fold.

I've lived through it all to see enough of this never ending battle. I'm a senior now.

Sideras4236d ago

Either way it's a new generation, prettier graphics are fairly important. Makes it all feel fresh and new and shiny.

Yes very important. And I don't trust that fucking guy, his forehead is too big and his hairdo is to douchey.

ThanatosDMC4236d ago

MS is gonna mandate parity for their crappy consoles...

llamaman134236d ago

actually physics, AI, and 'such' are CPU tasks mostly. And considering the ps4 and xbone cpu's are generally the same, the differences between the two's CPU tasks are non-existent, please be informed next time.

Visiblemarc4236d ago

Yes... But it also heavily affects future playability. Games get more taxing as the years wear on, xb1 has very little wiggle room.

SniperControl4236d ago

@badkolo

"first off not one game has been reviewed so no the multiplat games dont look better on the ps4, thats just guessing and specuakltion"

Huh? So i guess you must have missed all the hoorah regarding the numerous graphic comparison articles done between PS4 and X1 on COD:Ghosts & Battlefield 4.
All of them stating the PS4 version to be superior to the X1.

frostypants4235d ago (Edited 4235d ago )

@idontcare, did you just try to claim that DDR3 is a better option than GDDR5? NO....just NO..."Zip it, ex zip it a, zippy longstockings, zip it, zip it good, subtitle: zip it, zuckle on my zipple, zip it, Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, exZIPIT A..."

Ritsujun4235d ago

Xbone180'd.
Pathetic Microsofie is frigging pathetic.

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GribbleGrunger4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

Watch the TV, not the resolution. Eat your food, not the nutritional value.

BlueShirt77494236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

Yea too bad Spencer is right. All of a sudden the resolution matters to Sony fanboys. Real gamers won't care and play the games for the games knowing they'll look great regardless of console.

WAKE UP! (and in some cases GROW UP)

scott1824236d ago

"knowing they'll look great regardless of console."

If Spencer is right, then what does it matter how they look? Resolution contributes to the appearance...

Studio-YaMi4236d ago

If you haven't seen the difference from 1080p to 720p,then you need to check your eyes out QUICK!

"Looking great" means the resolution is a MUST HAVE!

Are you people serious??

No wonder Spencer said that,he knows that his sheep are gonna eat it up with a smile on their faces.

Jeez!

mistertwoturbo4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

And all of a sudden it doesn't matter to you hardcore Microsoft fans.

It mattered in the past 7 years how much better multiplatform titles on the 360 looked and ran better than the PS3.

Now it doesn't matter anymore.

Although I'm considering to buy an XB1, I really really hate that Microsoft community. It's full of backwards people like you.

slapedurmomsace4236d ago

Wow, real gamers won't care about the appearance of a game. Well....than please explain why visuals are apart of reviews. Why PC fans love the latest and greatest. Why Battlefield 4 on ultra is blowing people away. Why do some in the gaming community wanna label the Wii U as last gen. Why did Xbox owners chastise the PS3 when multi-plates looked better last gen?

You wanna buy an Xbox One because of their exclusives, that's 100% fine and understandable. Eventually I will too, but why pay more for a console that's not delivering the same experience that can be had for LESS on a different system if you are buying most multi-plates.

Also as FYI..real gamers...they don't need to justify their purchases to people they don't know to make themselves feel better about their choice.

irokster4236d ago

And what in the hell makes you a "real gamer" and not the rest of us? Explain.

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frostypants4235d ago

If resolution doesn't matter, then why did they develop a new console to replace the 360? Seriously...anyone who claims hardware power isn't important is in denial. And that's what we're REALLY talking about...it's not just resolution that is impacted here. It's everything the console does.

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andrewsqual4236d ago

Would have been a great slogan at E3 2013.

solar4236d ago

The Wii sold better than 360 and PS3. It isn't all about power.

MightyNoX4236d ago

The Wii was also cheaper and doesn't tout 'Full HD 1080p graphics' on it's website. How is that selective memory working for ya.

Derpity derpity derppy doo.

SilentNegotiator4236d ago

Wii also had a gimmick that got millions upon millions of non-traditional gamers to play it. None of the 8th gen systems have that appeal (Go ahead and say Kinect - didn't save the 360 from falling into 3rd place and they put 1/2 billion into marketing for it) and Wii U is proving that simply being cheapest is no guarantee of success.

Ps4 has more preorders than Wii U has released systems and Xbox doesn't have as many preorders as PS4.

Furthermore, when was the last time that the strongest console (by a long shot) was the 2nd cheapest?

solar4236d ago

still sold better and was the weakest console.

sigfredod4236d ago

so you are getting the wii u that will sell better since is the weakest and cheaper ?

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frostypants4235d ago

The Wii is also the world's most expensive paperweight for most people who bought it. Let's not pretend it competed for the same audience.

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mistertwoturbo4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

They were singing a different tune back in 2006

"I guarantee that Xbox 360 games will look better than PS3. Xbox 360 is easy to develop on and programmers have experience already. We will keep ahead of the curve for two to three years"

http://www.xboxic.com/news/...

Seems like they really cared about "looks" at that time.

SmielmaN4236d ago

Funny how they change their message to consumers based on what they are trying to sell. I just believe some ppl are still falling for it despite all the factual information that has come out from the very beginning (can't ditch DRM "if you want a offline console, buy a 360"), kinect must be on (180'd even tho they said they wouldn't do that), to games running on PC's and cut the resolution by nearly half lately when running on "Xb one" (are they really running on final hardware yet in the wild???)... You know what? I'm so sick of that company I'm not even going to bother anymore. I love gaming, I owned both Microsoft consoles and I'm pretty sure I'm done with them. I loved halo, but I think I'm looking forward to Destiny instead. If your buying a xbone then good luck, I won't be giving M$ anymore of my money. Wasn't there just a article saying they were thinking of selling off Xbox and bing? Could this be dream cast 2.0???

dale_denton4236d ago

mr. spencer... that's easy to say when you don't have to pay for a console and games does it?

medman4236d ago

Those of us fortunate enough to have ps3's and 360's have been playing the games. For years. That is the problem Microsoft. Your first party titles are not competitive with what Sony offers. "Play the games not the resolution". Too bad you're getting your arse kicked on both accounts.

frostypants4235d ago (Edited 4235d ago )

Yep...only time I used my 360 was for cross-platformers because they were generally better on the 360, and to play with my buddies who did the same. If the PS4 has the better cross-platformers, all that goes away for the Xbox One. Outside of Forza (which I love), the MS exclusive franchises are nothing special. I've never liked Halo, and Gears is just Uncharted with less depth. I'm not saying I won't ever buy a One, but at $499, it's a joke.

otherZinc4236d ago

This is a great article for those that actually "READ" it;
Instead of only reading the click attention grabbing title.

malol4236d ago

xbox fanboys/employees used to rub it all over PS fanboys how they get worse multiplats

i guess karma is a BITCH !

PSX044236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

you are so right Spencer .... so I will keep x360 and will not buy xbone and for really next gen and numbers I will buy ps4

3-4-54235d ago

Games are more important than resolution. I spent this entire gen playing without the HD cables in my xbox 360.

Yea that is right.....NO HD for me at all this gen. Just didn't care to go get them once I realized it after a year.

Big deal. Games still were fun to play. Well some were.

I just don't trust Microsoft anymore.

I'm not a graphics snob...I still love 2D sprites.

PS4 for me this gen.

NateCole4235d ago

Someone please tell him that you play resolution when you play games as it is part of the game.

WTF?. Are MS reps really this stupid?.

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aceitman4236d ago

tbh it wasn't that way on the 360 to them it was always said multiplatform games look better on the 360 than ps3 , but now tables are turned Microsoft's Phil Spencer Urges Gamers to Remember Games Are More Than Technical Specs that's called being a hypocrite.

LordMaim4236d ago

No kidding. I should be able to do both, Spencer.

staticdash224236d ago

Lol sorry phil

If tech is important one day, you cant claim it isn't as important anymore once the comparison doesn't favor you.

pyramidshead4236d ago (Edited 4236d ago )

People need to realise the problem isn't solely the resolution, it's the paying £100 more for a system that can't match the power of the £100 cheaper system lol.

Pretty glad Sony's console won't bear the brunt of bad multiplats this gen, makes the future even more easier than it already was.

Kayant4236d ago

Ikr it remind me of when I saw this on gaf. Major nelson seemed to think it mattered a lot in X360 times -

http://majornelson.com/2005...
http://majornelson.com/2005...
http://majornelson.com/2005...
http://majornelson.com/2005...

At the end of the day it does matter especially for third-party games because they are going to aim for both versions to have the same graphical effects most of the time & if you get a higher resolution on one it will produce a crisper/cleaner image. We can see this in BF4.

"As well as cutting down on jagged edges, this reduces the amount of pixel shimmer we see in motion on complex shaders or thin geometry, with distant power lines, scaffolding and other elements with sub-pixel elements creating unwanted flickering on Xbox One"

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Red_Devilz4236d ago

Major Nelson is a well-known idiot shill. He lost any credibility he had when he tried to be smart@ss in front of Joe and said they can't just flip the switch.

aquamala4236d ago

"play the games, not the resolution"

ps3 gamers have been saying this all this gen to PC gamers

madpuppy4236d ago

more like a "damaging lack of control"

staticdash224236d ago

Oh, and I've made my stance so it's not changing

720p in almost 2014.......2014 is the key word here. It's almost 2014....wait, let me put emphasis on this....(2014), you know the year after 2013. It's not 2005 anymore. We have been running on 720p for years. Unfortunately yes, a game that cannot show a technical leap in 2013 with a supposed next gen console makes me furious. So unfortunately I have to pass on your product for failing to impress me out of the gate. 1080p > 720p no matter how you spin. Once I see 720p, that game has been delegated to 2nd or third tier interest. Gameplay might be fun, but I can always pick those games up later at a lower price.

So remember Phil, it's almost 2014, not 2005 lol

Drekken4236d ago

I have owned a 1080p TV for almost 5 years. I see no reason to spend $500 on a machine that can't natively fill my TV with 1080p. I feel that both consoles should be pushing 1080p 60fps without a problem from the first game. PS4 is pulling it off, but it almost feels like it should have been a little bit stronger *Bf4 @ 900p. I am hoping Bf4 is a fluke and all games will run at 1080p.

I will not spend $60 on any game not pushing 1080p. I think this is the only way to show devs we want 1080p.

BlackTar1874236d ago

You need to be careful with this. If ps4 has games running at lower res in the future you'll just be egg ont he face of ps4 gamers.

People need to lighten up a bit. The xbox only crowd was so happy with the 1 frame better games last gen and now they don't care. That said you really shouldn't sput off about something that could possibly backfire in a years time. It's just foolish

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Phil Spencer Teases 2026 As A "Really Special Year" For Xbox

2026 will mark the 25th anniversary of Xbox, and Phil Spencer has teased it as a "really special year" for the games division.

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TheEroica1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

You got downvotes by pathetic gamers for feeling hopeful about good games coming out next year. Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy? It is pretty neat to see people's world view blow up in front of them as they realize Microsoft has put themselves in a driver's seat that Sony hasn't been able to touch all generation.... What's even more pathetic is the same people downvoting you are the same people wishlisting Microsoft games on their ps5s 😂

P_Bomb1d 17h ago

“Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy?”

My dude your post history shits on EVERYTHING. You never have a good thing to say about anything lol! 🤣

PanicMechanic1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

“Getting ready for those GaaS reveals! Sony is a shadow of themselves this gen.”

You literally said this a couple of days ago. Start applying the clown make up, you hypocritical jester

derek1d 17h ago

Yep we'll see, they have alot releasing next year.

RaidenBlack1d 14h ago

NGL, next year might be one of the best years in gaming ... starting off with RE9 and GTA VI ...
and then all the good games that's been cooking
Pragmata, Sands of Time, Saros, Gears E-Day, 007 First Light, Blood of Dawnwalker,
Mortal Shell II, Onimusha, Marvel1943: Rise of Hydra
current-gen only Infinity Ward's CoD, Duskbloods
+ My guess: Wolverine, Exodus, Mudang, Crimson Desert, Clockwork etc ...
~ seems like it might get too stacked

1Victor1d 12h ago

@rokos:”Hopefully “
I downvoted you not for been hopeful but because I have seen the same “NEXT YEAR WILL BE SPECIAL “ comment for the last 10+ and hasn’t seen anything special from Microsoft.
I hope next year will be the one that everyone been waiting for since the last 3 years of the Xbox 360, it have to be after over $80 billions spent on acquisitions.

Lightning771d 12h ago

So the new excuse is they don't count because it's from the ABK now huh. I guess all those 3rd party games count even less because they don't own them. According to your always crappy logic.

InUrFoxHole1d 3h ago

Lol. You haven't seen anything special? Do you even game?

OtterX1d 23h ago

Always with the "next year..."! 😂

neutralgamer19921d 22h ago

I don't know they have delivered this year and even last year. And they have a lot more content in the pipeline right now than anyone else. We can't just keep hating on MS

Indiana Jones
South of midnight
Avowed
Flight simulator
Hell Blade 2
Minecraft update
Gears of war reloaded
Indian Jones:expansion
Gears E day
Clockwork revolution
Fable
Doom the dark ages
The outer worlds 2
Grounded 2
Call of duty

OtterX1d 22h ago

How many of those titles were just buyouts of companies that were going about making their games anyways? *Throws cash - "Oh look what we made!"

dveio1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

This list, that's been posted again, and again, and again in every single topic like this, contains almost nothing, literally almost nothing from Microsoft's own creational thoughtprocess.

It's a bunch of former 3rd party IPs.

Now even slowly returning to Playstation in some cases like Indiana, Hellblade, probably Starfield soon too, after they were made exclusively to Xbox on purpose.

Due to Microsoft's lack for own IP material except Halo & Forza. Which, the lack of, was the sole reason for all of it to happen in the first place anyway. Please don't pretend it wasn't.

And just look at all the games that come from Obsidian alone.

You really think Obsidian wasn't already working on Avowed and South of Midnight even without Microsoft buying Zenimax?

Microsoft delivered nothing but cheques.

OtterX1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

@dveio THIS. Lol, this dude thinks Call of Duty wouldn't exist without Microsoft! smh 😂

neutralgamer19921d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Common narrative I see often — that Microsoft shouldn’t get credit for the games its studios release because they “just bought them.” But this viewpoint ignores key context and sets a double standard that other platform holders aren’t held to

No one is saying these games wouldn't exist at all without Microsoft. But let’s not pretend that having a trillion-dollar company backing a studio doesn’t make a massive difference. Obsidian never had AAA funding before the Xbox acquisition. Pillars of Eternity was crowdfunded, and their resources were always stretched thin. Now they’re working on Avowed, with proper support behind it.

Ninja Theory’s Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice was made by around 20 people, using borrowed equipment and doing mocap in a boardroom. It was a passion project held together by tape and willpower. Today, Hellblade II exists because they were given resources, time, and freedom — something many developers don’t get unless they’re owned by a company that believes in their vision.

ZeniMax (Bethesda’s parent company) was in real financial trouble before the Microsoft acquisition. Reports and insider accounts have pointed out how much they needed a cash infusion. And while some people want to write off Xbox’s ownership of Bethesda titles, they forget the alternative could have meant layoffs or even closures.

The same goes for Activision Blizzard. Would you really prefer the company to stay under Bobby Kotick, after all the documented workplace misconduct and toxic leadership issues? Say what you want about Microsoft, but their acquisition brought accountability and change to a company that desperately needed it.

At the same time, Xbox gets hated on for doing what every major company does. Sony bought Housemarque, Bluepoint, Insomniac — but no one says Spider-Man 2 “doesn’t count” because of that. Why does Xbox get treated differently for acquiring struggling or undervalued developers and giving them a chance to thrive?

And the idea that Xbox locks games away is outdated. They're pushing cross-platform releases, cloud gaming, Game Pass, and backward compatibility more than any other platform holder. They're not forcing all studios into live service. If anything, their upcoming lineup is less GAAS-heavy and more focused on narrative and creativity — Avowed, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Fable, Perfect Dark, Towerborne, and others show real variety.

Whether people like it or not, Xbox is now the biggest publisher in the industry and owns the most gaming IPs. But what matters more is how they treat their studios. Most of these teams were previously stuck making AA games with limited scope — now they’re getting the tools and support to aim higher.

So when people say “Microsoft didn’t make those games,” they’re missing the point. It’s not about who started the studio — it’s about who enabled them to do their best work. You don’t have to love Xbox to admit they’ve helped a lot of developers and are taking a player-first approach.

Instead of writing off everything they do, maybe try recognizing the good they’re doing for both devs and gamers. At the end of the day, we should want more studios to succeed — no matter who owns them

BeHunted1d 20h ago

I'm surprised Clockwork Revolution (BioShock meets Dishonored) isn't getting more media attention. The game looks interesting and reminds me of the old RPG games.

anast1d 20h ago

The only good game on that list is Flight sim. The rest are either average or will be average. It's not a good look for MS.

TheEroica1d 19h ago

My god.... Look how many comments are upset about microsoft's successes... 😂 This may be my new favorite thread. Not one gamer saying thanks for all the goodness coming their way, just bitter anger and downvoting the very games they themselves will purchase throughout 2026.... Sony really worked you guys over this generation.... Condolences.

DivineHand1251d 19h ago

@neutralgamer1992 You said what needed to be said.

I have heard for years from older gamers that fanboys are the biggest issue with any fanbase. They will defend or gloss over negative news as long as the correct logo is on the box and they bash the competing platform no matter how much good they are trying to bring.

Right now their advocacy for PlayStation is elevating that platform so high that Sony no longer believes they need to do anything to satisfy their loyal fanbase like they did in the PS4 days.

I just hope most of them will eventually start advocating for themselves and encourage others to do the same. No one should blindly support one platform because these companies do not care about anything other than profit.

neutralgamer19921d 18h ago

Hunted

And first proper game done by the studio with proper AAA budget and saying it will be released when ready

Anast

I believe we went through this before that you are objectively wrong. Meta critic, user reviews, game sales. In Playstation top 10 best selling games were 5 from Microsoft studios

Otter

No this dude is saying so many other studios wouldn't be thriving without MS money and people would be getting abused physically and mentally with Bobby kotick and his side kicks

Also maybe look up how the original founder of Bethesda and zenimax was kicked out of his own company by his best friend lawyer. So that was always a shady place and had been struggling financially before MS paid a premium of almost 7 billion

Eroica

I use to be a die hard Playstation fan and now I only have a Pc. I see how these fans are so toxic. They just can't handle any positive news regarding Xbox. When the best selling games on playstation are Xbox titles. Look at Forza horizon being best seller and that's years old game by MS. I guess ms don't deserve credit for that success too since they are the only company in gaming making acquisitions

Forget the fact Sony paid 3.6 billion for bungie and MS 6.9 for zenimax. Which investment has turned out better

Destiny and marathon with a lot of controversy

While zenimax output is nothing short of amazing compared to what bungie has released

crazyCoconuts1d 18h ago

Yeah it's tricky. "Xbox" has morphed to mean different things to different people.
Console, now Windows, GamePass, and the cross platform games. There's a mix of attitudes towards all those things individually, and maybe an overarching attitude towards MS. But can't argue that the game companies MS recently bought continue to flourish, and GamePass PC has been a great value over the last year.

InUrFoxHole1d 3h ago

@OtterX
You're the dude mad at your exes new guy. She's with someone else... get over it.

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Lightning771d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

They've had good output so far. So waiting for those games shouldn't be a problem.

Who cares if they're buy outs of companies or whatever excuse you want to make. They're games that are being distributed to other console. Play the games and enjoy it instead of fanboying or complaining.

ocelot071d 21h ago

They going to be a he best and biggest publisher on Xbox, Playstation and PC next year. They not really said anything about Switch 2 though spite claiming to be big supporters.

quenomamen1d 21h ago

If you call making one last Xbox before going full Sega, as Great. Then yea.

TheEroica1d 19h ago

Doesn't feel like you're paying attention to what's happening.

RhinoGamer881d 20h ago

It will be, his net work will hit 50 million and he plans to buy a new mansion in Cape Cod. Thanks everyone! #failup

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Phil Spencer 'Very Excited' About Xbox Handheld Plans For 2025

With ASUS seemingly teasing an Xbox handheld last week, there's been a lot of talk about the device in the days ever since, and Xbox boss Phil Spencer has also teased something to do with handhelds happening in 2025

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neutralgamer199267d ago

I really hope this isn't a windows based device even though coming from MS that's highly unlikely. SteamDeck is much much easier to use and offers a much better user experience than any other handheld device because it's all based on steam app. The Xbox handheld should be based on that because a Windows device with a 7-8 inch screen makes it's difficult to navigate

darthv7267d ago

Coming from Asus... its going to be an Xbox branded ROG Ally.

neutralgamer199267d ago

That's fine but hopefully it will be a Xbox app based instead of windows

VenomUK67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

When the casual market learn that there’s going to be an Xbox branded Asus handheld they will cancel their Nintendo Switch 2 preorders and get the Asus. No it won’t have exclusive games like Super Mario or Zelda or Metroid or Pilot Wings or Mario Kart or Animal Crossing or Donkey Kong or Pokémon or Super Smash Bros - but who cares as it will have access to the entire library of the Steam Store running on Windows. It will also have access to Game Pass with all the modern day classics like Avowed, Hellblade II and Grounded and Pentiment.

I think we all have to acknowledge that after all the criticism of Switch 2 on ResetEra it’s evidence that it will fail to sell and the Asus will outsell it. Dreamcast pushed Sega out of hardware, we all have to accept that the perfect storm of Switch 2 pricing, an Xbox-branded Asus and Phil Spencer and Aaron Greenberg’s persuasive promotion will likely kill off Switch 2 within a month. AND YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT.

FinalFantasyFanatic67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

@VenomUK,
I don't think that even has a remote chance of happening, Nintendo has so much brand loyalty, even with the backlash on their not so great pricing, I still think it's going to sell, Xbox doesn't have as much brand loyalty. Plus, if it's just Xbox branded ROG Ally or something similar, why not just choose a ROG ally or Steam Deck? They can both do everything that an Xbox branded handheld can. If Xbox is going to compete in the world of windows based handhelds, it has so much competition, it's going to struggle.

You're way too optimistic about the Xbox handheld and the demise of the Switch 2, I'm going to predict the opposite and say the Switch 2 will demolish the Xbox handheld in terms of sales/popularity.

S2Killinit67d ago

@VenomUK
Not sure if sarcasm or satire.

VenomUK67d ago

@S2Killinit Satire. I’m not going to hate on people for being excited for a new console. But what is happening in the Xbox community is something wicked, content creators are hyping up the Asus to their audience about how great this thing is, and how it will be more powerful than the Switch 2 and the Steam Store outweighs any advantage the Switch 2 has with its library of games. I don’t believe they believe it but they are grifting. By all means look forward to it but don’t sell it as a Switch 2 PS5 killer.

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PanicMechanic67d ago

Steam Os is amazing. By far the best. Can’t imagine MS having an OS that can top it (CERTAINLY not windows)

crazyCoconuts67d ago

Well they're gonna try. They've already stated they've been working on it.

FinalFantasyFanatic67d ago

Windows as is, isn't a great experience for a handheld, they really need to make a dedicated handheld OS, unfortunately they've always been hellbent on making a single product for both PC/touch screen use.

I really can't imagine them making something that stands up to Steam OS, it just works so well.

RaidenBlack67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

This is not their in-house made Xbox handheld for next-gen, which is slated for release in 2027 alongside with the next Xbox console, which might run a version of their usual Xbox-ified OS optimized for the handheld.
This is just a brand collab to produce an Xbox branded updated Asus RoG Ally (Project Kennan), which as usual ships with Windows. Think of it as the 5th main competitor in handheld PC market, after Deck, Legion Go, Ally and MSi Claw (I know others exist, but these are the popular ones).
https://wccftech.com/xbox-h...
And RoG Ally didn't get an update this year like the Legion Go, so this Xbox-Asus one might be that?
Anyways, even with 2025 chip upgrade, the Legion Go underperforms compared to 2023 Ally and 2024 Ally X.

crazyCoconuts67d ago

It can't be anything but Windows if it has the Xbox brand on it. Outside of the politics (which would be a showstopper), SteamOS/Linux can't run GamePass natively due to the crazy protections implemented by the Windows Store.

neutralgamer199267d ago

I am not asking the Xbox handheld to run steam, I just wanted a dedicated Xbox app on the handheld that handles everything from playing games, downloading games, gamepass and most importantly all updates are done from that app. Just a better overall user experience

Having to download multiple different things on a Windows based device becomes really a chore in a smaller screen.

crazyCoconuts67d ago

Having the windows handheld auto launch the existing Xbox Windows app will accomplish everything you mentioned, and I'm sure that's what this will be.
Fact is that MS will need to add a lot into that app to incorporate all the system level controls Steam incorporated into their handheld UI.

OmegaSoldati67d ago

Steam Deck for the win! Switch too.

Profchaos67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

It'll be windows all leaks indicate this is a windows based device with a Xbox skin it will integrate other storefronts because at its core it's windows.

@venom there's is no chance that parents will be buying their kids a rog ally setting up steam and other storefronts over a Nintendo switch 2 at Christmas.

That's a mass amount of hopium there.

Portable PC's in total have barely cracked six million sold the switch 2 will continue to dominate the casual crowd all known about it and news of a switch successor has already started spreading in mainstream media

neutralgamer199266d ago

I think switch 2 will do well but dominate I think we need to wait and see. The prices of the console and games is much more than switch so don't expect parents in this inflation time to spend $600 on 2 games and a console. Since it's Nintendo it should sell but I think we are underpaying the importance of the inflated market

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anast67d ago

Every inch of this things is going to be a subservice.

Aloymetal67d ago

And an even bigger flop in the making, it's like they're just throwing crap at the wall and see what sticks or rather find another ''clever'' way to keep squeezing more money from the already miniscule and gullible fanbase. Smfh.

Reaper22_67d ago

Squeezing money. Isn't that what sony is doing with tbe ps5pro. And what about all those remakes and locking some ps4 games to a subscription.

ABizzel166d ago

At first I thought this was a huge mistake on MS part. But after thinking about this more and more, while I still don’t think it’s going to do anything beyond 10 - 20 million in sales, I think that’s exactly what MS and ASUS are expecting and both are okay with.

I assume this is more of Asus saying to MS, look we have ten/twenty million of these handheld PCs already in production and we’ve only been able to sell a couple millions, partner with us and let’s brand them as Xbox handhelds ASUS will do all the heavy lifting so we don’t take a loss on all these, and all MS has to do is market the platform and put your logo, the new Xbox OS/app you’ve been working on, and together we’ll helps each other out and push more GamePass subscriptions.

That make complete logical sense as to why this came about, because otherwise….. So technically it would be a win:win for both companies, or a win for MS and a reduction of loss of ASUS, even if they only sell 10m - 20m units.

As for the handheld itself honestly, it should be solid and most likely based on the Rog Ally 7, but hopefully with the Rog Ally X case as that has a much better port and I/O layout. Plus if the Xbox OS is wayyyyyyy lighter than Windows then it should be a a good piece of tech getting more performance than the Ally 7 Windows version for around $499.

But that’s where the next problem comes into play…..Price. It’s Switch 2 all over again. The slight different is outside of the potential of DLSS, this should be a slightly more powerful handheld, especially if they create their own dock, but that dock will likely be sold separately meaning now we’re looking at $550 or more, for what will essentially be a docked Xbox Series S and a slightly more powerful SteamDeck / Switch 2 in handheld mode.

peppeaccardo67d ago

The Irrelevant-Held will be able to connect to the XFLOP Series X

anast67d ago

ha! It might last longer than the Stadia.

Profchaos67d ago

Basically what windows os turning into now every few weeks logging on I'm greeted with a hey how about some office 365 or your gamepass lapsed how about renewing and decline is in little blue writing while subscribe is a huge button

anast67d ago

This and I also get a pop up to subscribe to Xbox GamePass.

PanicMechanic67d ago

So smart of you caveman Phil sphincter. Did you get the memo on what Nintendo is releasing this year?

Kyizen67d ago

I dont trust Microsoft to build an OS for this looking at the Windows phone so I think this will be just Windows with a Steam like Big Picture mode locked in the UI to launch games.

Rockstar67d ago

This is good advice from Reaper here. I trust your advice and you've got my word...I wont buy it.

Thanks Reaper!

YourMommySpoils67d ago

Then don't complain about facts.

PanicMechanic66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

So in other words, it’s just another ROG Ally. I think MS has a winner🤣🤣

FinalFantasyFanatic67d ago

I remember when my sister bought a Windows phone, that thing was missing so many basic features, she didn't even own the phone for 3 months before getting frustrated and swapping it out.

Profchaos67d ago

I'll be honest I had a older relative that loved the windows phone cause it had a huge dial, contacts and camera button that was all it got used for.

Oh and it was bright green so easy to find

Moral of the story one person's trash is another's treasure

Reaper22_66d ago

Windows phones weren't the best but I also remember sonys phones didn't fare too well either. As a matter of fact they're newest ones aren't doing so great either. Not even in Japan. That says alot.

Profchaos66d ago

@reaper22 honestly Shane about the Sony phones to I brought the Xperia 3 when they announced remote play for it and it was one of the best ones I have had the battery lasted a few days the camera was some obscene 50mp but the physical design lagged behind Samsung and I think that was a huge reason it failed

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Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reassures Xbox Gamers Their Gaming Library Isn't Going Anywhere

Xbox's CEO Phil Spencer assures that, even though they are expanding to other platforms, Xbox gamer's libraries aren't going anywhere.

jznrpg116d ago

Phil, the words of a guy who only speaks the truth.

If I was an Xbox owner I wouldn’t feel comfortable with what he just said

crazyCoconuts116d ago

Reading his quote sounds like word salad. I'm not sure he said anything really.

darthv72116d ago

I'd rather him say more of our library will be made available now. It sucks to have so many 360 era games still stuck in limbo, especially Activision ones now that they are buddy buddy.

VenomUK116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

Sarah Bond had committed to backwards compatibility, so interpreting Phil Spencer’s quote, old Xbox games will always be playable with a PS3 on PSN like cloud solution, and on new hardware if a new Xbox console is ever released.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/04...

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Scissorman116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

why does this even need to be reassured? it really goes to show you how nervous there fanbase is.

Eonjay116d ago

Right. I was thinking the same thing. This shouldn't be some sort of 'benefit' for Xbox gamers as MS goes to Sony and Nintendo... This should just be implied. No matter where the games go in the future should have any impact on the purchased games libraries of current Xbox consumers.

pwnmaster3000116d ago

Yup no matter how much they say they don’t care, the fanbase care lol

Profchaos116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

What's left of them one the last 12 months I've seen Xbox consoles flooding second hand marketplaces and going for half of their RRP

In addition this interview the whole panel was clearly not believing the viewpoint but not wanting to offend their guest

LabRat115d ago

When (or "if") Xbox goes out of hardware those who don't play on Cloud or prefer hardware...where will they play their library?

PhillyDonJawn115d ago

Not the question. If you already gave the hardware and games. Why would it disappear?

Chocoburger116d ago

Ah yes, Phillip, the pinnacle of honesty, and he never changes his mind. We can all take his word for it without hesitation. 🤥

Profchaos116d ago

He did but in the follow up sentence he talked about charging pricing because they are a business so who knows maybe the next gen box has a fee to use their emulator service I imagine wine ports to a PC architecture

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