Ryse's Design Director: Xbox One Can Pull Off 10,000 AIs At The Same Time Because of Cloud Computing

Ryse: Son of Rome has been the center of attention from media and gamers a like ever since it was confirmed to be running natively at 900p resolution instead of doing a native 1080p on the Xbox One.

[XboxFun]

No, no, no. I read from the engineers on N4G that cloud computing can't be done. So I don't believe this actual game designer from Crytek.

[Xsilver]

http://media.tumblr.com/tum... you do know saying it and doing it are two different things.

[hellzsupernova]

It can be done, but it isn't viable at the moment, inforstructure isn't capable

[MysticStrummer]

Actual engineers have said it can't be done, but you guys dismissed them too.

[T2]

You do know this is a video game forum right ? There are prob plenty of software engineers on here but you wouldnt listen anyway would you , just plug your ears , close your eyes , and yell real loud ... It will seem your point is valid .... To you.

[XboxFun]

Oh, and where are they? Kind of hard to distinguish them from all the "MS sux", "powers of da cloudz", "PR dribble" and other troll attempts without actually explaining why people believe it isn't possible.

I guess it goes both ways though right. It's easy to believe a poster on N4G who knocks the cloud and dismiss the actual word of an article about an actual devs working with MS and the Xbox One.

http://computer.howstuffwor...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

But yea, it's all fake...to you.

[iceman06]

@XboxFun...funny that you always bring up the N4G engineers, but dismiss actual computer scientist and engineers that actually say that at the moment it's more efficient to do everything that is done in the cloud on the hardware. You bring developers in, as if they are going to admit to the cloud not giving the benefits that it's touting right now. The argument is not about the cloud being FAKE. It's the assumption that the cloud, RIGHT NOW, can magically and more importantly significantly improve the performance of the Xbox 1. At this point, it would be exciting if it could...but due to all of the things that have been repeated ad nauseum it is highly unlikely in the near future.

[johndoe11211]

Wow, iceman, be careful, that's way too much logic. Tone it down a bit, you'll fry some people's brains.

[wishingW3L]

Why do they even try? Is the money bag that big that they are willing to stain their reputation for some cheap PR?

[tudors]

I can see from your comment you are worried! it will work and we will see it, try not to loose too much sleep ;)

[The-mindblowerfucker]

yeah right..
Popcorn, anybody?

[Godhimself_In_3d]

lol this thing is nothing but bad news f%#k xbox

[iamnsuperman]

Well go on then. Show me. If you say it can be done then do it. Why didn't you do it

[isarai]

exactly, they've been claiming it can do all these things yet we haven't seen a single thread of proof that it actually works.

[JasonKCK]

Cloud computing has been around for years. Even Sony jumped on board with Gaikai. It's "convenient" for you not to believe it because this news is about MS. I bet if this was about Sony it would be "great" and "innovative" even though Sony recently bought their way in. Just about every tech company in the world has been using it, and you forget Onlive did it in 2009. Strange how you guys just try and downplay technology the world has been using for years.

http://computer.howstuffwor... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Google it https://www.google.com/sear...

It's not hard to do a little research.

[iamnsuperman]

Gaikai isn't the same thing. We have seen streaming workish (still in its infancy and remember Gaikai was around before Sony nabbed it up). To offload and run something in the cloud is a completely different thing entirely (so much more at play than simply streaming the game) . We have yet to see anything as complex as a game using the cloud in this way (there is far more talk than evidence) . That is clearly my point. If it was possible why didn't they do it as Ryse is the type of game that would have benefited greatly from this level of integration (10,000 Ai on screen here. Come on)

[JasonKCK]

All you have to do is click the links, then you stop pretending you know what you're talking about.

[Lionalliance]

I heard now that the game might get rebooted in the middle of the game cause of cloud updates or something, so this is fishy.

[Kakashi Hatake]

So basically the game won't function unless its online?

[tudors]

No it will just have less features should they add them.

[Studio-YaMi]

Way to spend that $60 for a gimped game unless you have DA POWAAA OF DEE CLOUDDZZZZZ,huh? :0

That is IF this is even achieved this gen,Microsoft is just full of lies at the moment for me to believe any of their sh*t.

[MasterCornholio]

Can we have a demo?

Nexus 7 2013

[pyramidshead]

lol fat chance of that :P

[obliterator]

Sure

[Stick89]

Then you're internet goes out due to whatever reason...does the AI just stop moving? That would actually be pretty funny, 10,000 soldiers rushing at you just to suddenly halt :P

[Saithraphim]

Im happy if the cloud computing turns out to be rly great for gaming...because the PS4 can do it too, and if internet speeds on windows compared to speeds on linux is any indication...the PS4 will prob do it better :)

[tigertron]

Those magical clouds...

[LoTuZ]

And unicorns they are putting in the xbox and playstation.

[tigertron]

I'm surprised the pixie dust from the clouds can't make Ryse run at 1080p and 60fps with visuals intact...

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

Is that why the GI preview article of demo ruse was abysmal and said just could sit there and span same sequence through tons of enemies haha sounds like cloud is doin some fancy AI called "not doing sh*!"

[wynams]

Cloud computing is a buzz word for "uploading data then downloading some result(s)" .. its not like MS has a monopoly on this concept.

[isarai]

yet more talk on what the cloud can do with literally no proof to be seen of it working as they promise it will

[staticdash22]

Always online then?

[ziggurcat]

riiiiiiight....

[EXVirtual]

10,000 enemy AI's because of the Cloud. ROLF.
Listen, maybe the Cloud can do these glorious things. But the question is, how robust must your internet connection be to do this? 10,000 AI's?

I'll believe it when I see it.

[RevXM]

Not to mention the 10 000 objects/characters that will have to be animated on screen.

Not going to happen.

[mhunterjr]

That already been done... one ps3 and xbox360. The problem was neither console was powerful enough to give each character individual AI.

[RevXM]

You can obviously cut a lot of corners to make it appear like that is the case, but 10 000 animated individual character or even objects?

Hell it just isnt worth it, fidelity would take a noticeble hit even if the characters or objects looked horrendeus in a most likely sterile or crappy looking environment.

[Chrono]

Some people don't play online all the time, so all these cloud features won't be useful to them.

[lets_go_gunners]

Dude Halo 5 better be some demonstration of just what the cloud can do. Forza has progressively learning Ai but that just doesn't scream billions of dollars to me. Lets go 343i.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

The truth has been told.

[christocolus]

dude it seems crytek will be working closely with ms from now on..talking about how good their second game will look and the benefits of the cloud points to one thing...a second game is in development using these features. imagine how good an open world adventure game or mmo would be or even an open world fps....damn

[FrigidDARKNESS]

I would say a multiplat shooter is coming that will take advantage of the cloud technology.
-off topic- Square Enix has announced their cloud tech. Very similar to MS.

[Thegamer41]

Been told, but never shown :)

[1nsomniac]

I hate to be the bringer of bad news but to all that have seen the AI in Ryse, I wouldn't really take on board any praise that they give about it.

Seeing how it can pull off 10,000 with the power of the cloud I'm confused how their game that predominately shows far less than 10 seems to struggle showing the very basic level of AI.

It's a very confusing statement for them to make!

[2pacalypsenow]

Funny how they talk about all this cloud computing how it makes rhe games graphics ai etc better why cant they use the cloud to make it 1080p? o thats right ms will prob say 900p is enough just like they said HDMI wasnt needed and 1080i is good enough

[curtis92]

Since we're being vague and hypothetical, let's call it a million AI!

[Half-Mafia]

Power of the cloud is so powerful, we cant show you.

[cell989]

I read a preview of the game where the guy said he literally played the game using one hand lol, all that AI and they still couldnt bring some decent gameplay. Dynasty Warriors called, they want their hack n' slash back

[hiptanaka]

Ok, now prove it.

[KonsoruMasuta]

Then why don't you do it? I'm tired of MS and these developers talking about things they can do with the cloud.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and actually do them?

[LackaJaKane]

The thing is Microsoft have shown cloud computing in action behind closed doors at e3. People have actually seen it. Remember the the thing with NASA and the asteroids?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[SirBradders]

Is what makes me laugh is another article literally 5-10 mins ago was about crytek saying its not about specs its about art and now this saying about how this cloud stuff will make things more powerful how contraticting.

[KYU2130]

I hope they find success with their cloud before it evaporates.

The problem i am seeing with the cloud is that it pretty much guarantees that XB1 gamers will be required to have the always on feature to take advantage of the full potential of a game.

so you can fully expect all the previous policies that MS dumped in regards to system check-ins to be reversed again.

[badkolo]

who cares about always on, you need online to enjoy multiplayer on the ps4 too, so its not like your not going ot be connected to online on either system and if you dont have online then you cant patch the ps4 or x1, enough of this always online nonsence

[KYU2130]

actually, sony always provides alternative methods to download system patches and updates.

[MikeGdaGod]

this talk of cloud computing is interesting, but the problem is the approach MS takes with it vs Sony.

MS is banking on cloud computing to boost their games into full HD, while Sony banks on superior hardware that has the capability of cloud computing in the future.

MS makes this mistake with the kinect as well. they spend all this money promoting facial recognition and gesture controls, while PS4's camera is just as capable...but its more of an afterthought.

[jay2]

All mouth, no proof.

[SaturdayNightBeaver]

It does not change the most stupid gameplay ever made no?

[bleedsoe9mm]

its close but ryse is the best looking next generation title

[Mister_G]

If you're on-line, and connected to the cloud, yes.

PS4 can probably do the same thing though :)