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New Xbox Live terms ask users to commit to security, agree to share data with partners

Microsoft's current terms of use, effective as of July 2013, can be read at Xbox.com. Xbox Live and Games for Windows Live TOU indicates that Microsoft can share certain personal information provided to the company, but the updated terms appear to grant the company broader use of that data

cleft54248d ago

Pretty much is the main reason I am not buying a Xbox One. If others are okay with it then good for them, but I don't care for this sort of thing.

JokesOnYou4248d ago (Edited 4248d ago )

Sorry I read that twice and it sounds like any other online social connectivity device with other partners such as netflix, twitter, facebook etc or anything else online where its part of the process to share private info to sign up. Hell if this scares you then dont dare get a account at Walmart:

"Information automatically collected when you visit or use our websites, such as via cookies and device information, and in stores, such as via video cameras."

"We may disclose your personal information to third parties under the following limited circumstances:"
http://corporate.walmart.co...

-OMG not you too Walmart!...pfft

PoSTedUP4248d ago (Edited 4248d ago )

from what i understand they (MS and all their affiliates/resellers/distribut ors) own everything you do on, and upload to, your Xbox one (or just online?) and can use any of it however they like to "without compensation to you of any kind".
even your own gameplay sessions it states... so other people have rights to your own gameplay sessions for instance? along with anything else? maybe im confused but this is pretty much what the updated version is saying.

NukaCola4248d ago

Sorry Jokes

Not walking denially blind, biased and sheeplike with you buddy. I'm a gamer who wants MS to get their act together before I support them. I get your passion but loyalty does not mean you should always agree with those you follow. A true teammate points out faults to strengthen the team. You're just playing into MS hand without question. Again maybe you're not a teammate for Xbox.....maybe you're just a pawn.

sAVAge_bEaST4248d ago (Edited 4248d ago )

@joke.SonY.ou -
who would be foolish enough to shop at wal-mart (NSA runs see something, say something ads there) -much less, create an account.

Down playing , and belittling the situation..., what else should I expect from someone like you. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Reputa...

DragonKnight4248d ago

See? Didn't I say it MULTIPLE times that MS would put their B.S. in the ToU that you agree to share your personal data with their partners? And doesn't each and every Xbox One come with an ad camera that can monitor your heartrate? I f*cking CALLED it.

NewMonday4247d ago

"sharing data such as your name, address, email address and date of birth with the partner"

and if we don't no Live account, not much of a choice

obviously MS are counting on casual consumers to be oblivious and just sign up, taking advantage of them is so low.

IMOO this is worse than 720p, redundant but mandatory Kinect, false advertising and OS/MP crash problems.

UltimateMaster4247d ago

The funny thing is.
You have to agree to the terms otherwise you don't get to play any games. Or anything at all.

Also, think about it.
They'll ask you all your information beforehand and Then you have to go and change the settings.
Meaning that they already shared your data before you could even change it.

UltimateMaster4247d ago (Edited 4247d ago )

@Jokesonyou

Information Wallmart Collect:
We collect your information from the following sources:

-Information you give us, such as during transactions, customer service operations, surveys, and website registrations,
-Information from other sources, such as companies that help us to update our records, and
-Information automatically collected when you visit or use our websites, such as via cookies and device information, and in stores, such as via video cameras.

How We Use and/or Disclose Your Information:
*****Walmart does not sell or rent your personal information.

Let me quote something for you:
http://adage.com/article/sp...
http://www.vg247.com/2013/1...

“What I think you’re asking about is an interview done earlier in the year where someone was talking about how some of the new Xbox One Kinect features *could* be used in advertising – since we can see expressions, engagement, etc. and how that might be used to target advertising. This is the point that seems to draw some controversy.

Then, why even go at an advertising convention, tell people that the kinect can collect information if they had no intentions of reselling this information?

Last time I checked, Walmart doesn't sell you cameras that would plug inside your house.
...A part from the kinect, obviously.

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zeal0us4248d ago

What privacy you had was lost when you jump on the internet sadly. If not MS sharing your privacy, its Google, Facebook, Twitter or etc doing it sadly.

xHeavYx4248d ago

Yeah, Google, Facebook, Twitter and the IFruit app from GTA have a camera that detects my emotions

zeal0us4248d ago (Edited 4248d ago )

@xHeavYx

I didn't realize people like yourself valued your emotions so highly.
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My point is what little privacy you have is lost soon as you get on the internet and make an account with any company in this day and age. Heck maybe even the people you pay your bills to are selling your private information.

Bell two weeks ago just change their privacy policy. It will allow them to track your usage(web page visited,app usage, call pattern and etc). Not only that but they will be hitting customers with targeted advertising and they will sell that data to other companies.

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/...

I am not saying roll over and deal with it but rather more and more companies are doing the same exact thing with your private data. So be cautious of the services you use.

JokesOnYou4248d ago

Heavy are you serious?

"a camera that detects my emotions"

lmfao, uhm so what exactly are you are afraid their going after watching you sob like a baby. What next....kinect steals your soul?

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Ron_Danger4248d ago

We heard you the first time Jokes...

DragonKnight4248d ago

I love this flawed argument.

"Bu bu but all these other things violate your privacy too"

As if that makes it right anyway. It's that kind of apathy that digs the hole deeper.

sAVAge_bEaST4248d ago (Edited 4248d ago )

We didn't hear You Joke.SonY.ou

But, ninja I smell ya.

Shifting Blame, Marginalizing, & Belittling, are calling cards of http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Reputa...

Xsilver4247d ago

i don't pay $500 dollars for Google/Facebook/twitter or etc nor do i pay them every month so i don't get your logic here, are you not paying attention that the info MS wants from you is to provide ads on the xone that really doesn't benefit you as a gamer :/ now if the xone was free MS could have fun with my info but no i'm not paying them to do it.

zeal0us4247d ago

@Dragonknight, Xsliver and confused people.

I wasn't condoning MS actions by trying to justify others are doing the same exact thing. I was just simply stating that companies are doing the same with your private data and nothing more.

From my second post you could clearly see I was not condoning it.

"I am not saying roll over and deal with it but rather more and more companies are doing the same exact thing with your private data. So be cautious of the services you use."

XboxFun4247d ago (Edited 4247d ago )

@zeal0us

Don't even bother, the article states that the information will be shared to services on the system itself. Most if not all of these posters have done something similar knowingly or unknowingly and it hasn't impacted their lives one bit.

But for some straaaaaange reason, this bit of TOS will open the flood gates of terrorism and government conspiracy. You can already see Dragon and the crew flying off the hinges with "SEE, SEE, SEE, I TOLD YOU!" (I expect a blog soon)

Also if they would have read the article it clearly states that the info is shared with apps that are on the X1/360 that a user has signed up for and pretty much have already given the SAME information to sign up with.

And more importantly there is an option to OPT out.

"SEE, SEE, SEE I TOLD YOU! Kinect can monitor your heart rate!!"

Yea, because everytime I see a coke commercial my heart skips a beat.

STFU!

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nukeitall4248d ago

The privacy sharing is related to external app and accounts you create on it. MS is nice enough to detail this unlike their competitors.

What is ironic is the information MS shares is the same information Sony lost of all their members during the PSN break, and then some extra data.

DragonKnight4248d ago

Sure it is nuke, sure it is.

Fireseed4248d ago

I'm guessing you didn't read the article.

Well same as any company who has 3rd party apps on it's platform. Oh well who is anyone kidding this is going to get blown out of proportion, misquoted, used as amunition just cause it's MS

KRUSSIDULL4248d ago

From the article:

"These features and functions include leaderboards, live-hosted gameplay, achievements, tournaments, and gamer profile sharing."

Not that bad and it also says you can turn of this. This will benefit sites like http://www.trueachievements... by able to release accurate data in real time

nosferatuzodd4248d ago

ha hear it comes i wonder what the Xbox fans have to say now about ps fanboys being paranoid we all know Microsoft would do this only blind loyalty cant see that kineck was built to do this

Silver3604248d ago

I reserve the right to curse at whomever contacts me using this information!

rainslacker4248d ago

When they contact you, just say that person(you) doesn't live there anymore, but you have their new number. Then you give them the direct non toll-free number for MS customer service.

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DarkBlood4248d ago

If you choose to link this account with your Xbox Live account, we confirm key data points across the accounts by sharing data such as your name, address, email address and date of birth with the partner”

now just why the hell would they need address and date of birth for?

-Foxtrot4248d ago

To find out where you live...and if your legal

-Foxtrot4248d ago

Oh no, not that...to play hopscotch /s

Kayant4248d ago

Well at least I can opt-out for now but I don't like the sound of this one bit.

theWB274248d ago

The sound of what? All people are seeing is Microsoft and privacy and of course it's blown out of proportion. This is standard stuff. No more than what Facebook or Google asks when you link your account to different websites. Get a grip already.

SharnOfTheDEAD4248d ago

They will use this data in advertising, i'm pretty sure this is a way of them getting information for target audiences etc

theWB274248d ago

@SharnOfTheDeaD
You mean the couple of tiles they use for ads or when they target games and movies your way? Both big companies are doing the latter.

hazardman4248d ago

Who here has an android? I can tell you right now that almost every app you download does the same shit! If you dont agree you cant dll app. Its f@ck up! Face it people there is no more privacy, Stop living in lala land

SharnOfTheDEAD4248d ago

Advertising isn't just going to be on a few tiles on a console, this will be linked to your phone, tablet, apps, email and home addresses, so no..it's not just a few tiles. There's both negatives and positives to this though.

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Loki864248d ago

So pretty much what every other T&C says, why is this news?

falviousuk4248d ago

Its N4G, its trying to paint the xbox in a negative light. Voila, instant recipe for N4G posting.

And yes pretty much standard T&C's Sony's will be along the same lines, will we see that posted up on here, doubt it.

torchic4248d ago

whenever I read a post of yours, you're complaining about N4G.

you are not obligated to visit this site btw, you can visit more Xbox-centric sites if you think this place is so pro-PS4.

I just don't get how you complain about it all the time yet you keep coming back for more.

falviousuk4248d ago

And your not obligated to read my posts, but yet you do.

Hit ignore if you dont like them

TristanPR774248d ago

Do you need a violin to play the drama queen? Don't play the victim. If this was about the PS4 you would be here criticizing, so drop the hypocrisy.

jessupj4247d ago

Oh look, another MS apologist playing the victim card and complaining about all the mean ol' sony fanboys that keep picking on poor ol' MS. Like we haven't seen that a million times before.

Since you don't any reasonable or rational counter arguments I guess that's all you resort to.

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Manic20144248d ago

They forgot to mention to the option to opt out or in for the contract of service....

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain14d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198114d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK13d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts13d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK13d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT16d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits16d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel116d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic16d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN15d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel115d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica16d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14915d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga15d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania16d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts16d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7716d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box16d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7716d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts16d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7715d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb15d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow16d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box16d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor16d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate9123d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa7823d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer23d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio23d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate9122d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis22d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX23d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn23d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX23d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto23d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog23d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

**btw, I'm talking about street food vendors, just in case there's any confusion!

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Lightning7723d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio23d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning7723d ago (Edited 23d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx22d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning7722d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole22d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio22d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs23d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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