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Valve confirms: Steam Machines will have AMD hardware as well

Forbes "In a statement to Forbes, a Valve representative has confirmed that AMD graphics hardware will be included in commercially available Steam Machines next year. The more interesting story, however, is why Valve needed to confirm this in the first place."

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Ratty3851d ago

More like infinity bundles. They said Steam Machines would be manufactures by other companies besides Valve and that you can change the hardware and software. Not really surprising that some of those SteamBoxes will have AMD hardware.

Jack_Of_All_Blades3851d ago

Lol, but on topic more performance for our money

RVanner_3851d ago

If I was to get one it would be with AMD hardware, so I am pleased to hear this.

Just an AMD fan, no other real reason

Kurylo3d3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

Just curious, im not trying to bash you, but why?

I mean if its for the price i understand completely. Thats the whole reason anyone would go with amd its usually cheaper.. even if it lacks features like physx.

But nvidia is typically more powerful, has physx, has cuda for developers. I mean its just a way better card... and the driver improvements keep the card living for way longer by squeezing out more and more performance..

So seriously. Is price the reason your a fan? Or do u have another reason. No matter what if you compare the same generation... nvidia will always be on top.

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RVanner_3851d ago

Initially it was price.

I had such good performance from my first AMD PC and have since upgraded the GPU from an Asus 5770 to a Sapphire 6950 2GB and and run nion everything on maximum at 1080p. Therefore I have never been able to justify paying the extra for Nvidia hardware as I can't see I would gain as much of a leap in performance in relation to the additional cost.

Also most likely comes down to a simple case of familiarity. I'm not averse to Nvidia at all. I'm not some AMD fanboy or anything and am always open to change.

If i was to buy a brand new PC then I would consider going with Intel/Nvidia. But at the moment I like upgrading my PC with complimentary AMD parts to keep it all the same.

So overall I would say I'm a fan because of Value for money and familiarity.

WarThunder3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

Im not trying to pick any sides here, but lets take some examples.

- Lets take top of the range cards from both AMD and nvidia.

HD7990 cost $650
http://www.newegg.com/Produ...
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-R...
GTX titan cost $1000
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-...

GTX Titan is $350 more than the HD 7990 ok?
Let see some benchs
http://media.bestofmicro.co...
http://media.bestofmicro.co...
http://im.tech2.in.com/gall...
http://s2.postimg.org/ouvuw...

- You say Cuda is better? hmm let see
http://www.extremetech.com/...

- SteamOS will usee OpenGL
Lets see OpenGl performance
http://media.bestofmicro.co...

- Drivers, Right i own a HD7850 for almost a year and i had no problems what so ever.

Most editing and 3d sofware support OpenCL. So openCL will work as good as cuda.

The results: With the AMD 7990 you get a faster card for $350 less. Thats why some people choose AMD cards its faster and inexpensive. You get the best Price/performance graphics cards from AMD.

Kurylo3d3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

war thunder, are u really going to compare the card thats $1000 that no one will ever by. I was thinking more along the lines of the flagship cards... not to mention that the titan is generations behind so its an older card... cant really compare that one. nvidia hasnt released their latest gen yet. And yes cuda is better. And widely supported. If you were a 3d or graphic artist you would know and understand. Pulling a chart out of your ass that relates to NOTHING means nothing. And no opencl doesnt work as good... its very buggy and glitchy.

As for the titan vs the HD7990.. release date for amd hd7990 was APRIL 2013, while nvidias 680 series whcih is the titan was released in APRIL 2012. A year apart. So are you tellign me it took amd a year to match nvidia. lol.

And you still havent mentioned anything about the lack of support of physx, which makes games look awesome lol. I have a hard time seeing batman arkham city without it.. it just adds life to the environment.

Oh and i love that chart with the opengl... the top 2 cards are an amd card from 2013 and an nvidia card thats trailing by 4 or 5 fps from an entire year previous in 2012... lol! Nvidia hasnt released their next generation yet and the previous gen is still going toe to toe with amds current gen.... so thanks for proving my point with your chart. lol

And why not compare the $350 - $600 cards instead of comparing the dual cards that are $1000 that no one ever wants to buy lol... Bring the comparisons back down to consumer level. I'd rather spend $200 on an nvidia card that does everything i need and outperforms the $150 amd card.

Oh and that cuda graph hahha what is bitcoin mining? why not have a graph for video editing.. something along those lines lol... u pic the one graph that no one knows or cares about lol.. because it has higher numbers for your team haha.. Its ok to tout something thats better, if it does somehow make your product better, but that there... does not lol.

CyrusLemont3851d ago

@Kurylo3D, sadly I think multiplats or ports are going to be highly optimized for AMD only. Nvidia probably won't have that much trouble running them in comparison, but they'll need more horsepower to keep them even.

WarThunder3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

@Kurylo3d,

I really don't care which was released first or last. All i care is how much performance do i get for my money.
GTX Titan Jan 2013, HD7990 april 2013, big deal...

And from actual results its faster and cheaper. benchs/results are all over the internet.

I work as a technical Artist using Maya,3dmax, CS6 and Unity3d. And i can tell you these work better with OpenCL/GL rather than Cuda. Photoshop CS6 supports OpenCL/GL and when u enable it, the performance is better...

As u can see here bech using Maya Autodesk

HD7970 ($300) vs Titan($1000)

http://media.bestofmicro.co...

Lets see CATIA :
http://media.bestofmicro.co...
http://media.bestofmicro.co...

Let see Lightwave:
http://media.bestofmicro.co...

Lets see Solid works
http://media.bestofmicro.co...

Lets see OpenCL image processing
http://media.bestofmicro.co...
http://media.bestofmicro.co...
http://media.bestofmicro.co...
http://media.bestofmicro.co...

- If you want to compare cheaper cards i can compare the HD7970($300) to the GTX770 ($400) amazon.
both have similar performance, but again the AMD is $100 cheaper.

- Like u know SteamOS will use OpenGL and openCL
How a $300 card compare to nvidia $1000 cards
http://media.bestofmicro.co...

- As for the physx, If your using a AMD card, you can still install physx and it will work via the CPU so not a big deal....

Everything you say are things that you take from your own fanboy head. A quick search is enough to make your arguments go to waste.

Im not saying don't buy Nvidia. Its your money not mine, If you want waste more money on a overpriced product than thats your prob.

Kurylo3d3847d ago (Edited 3847d ago )

You say your a technical artist. So am I. Sadly I think your pretty bad at your job lol.. Talking about unity3d with open cl. Unity3d does not natively support opencl.

Wait a few months then compare nvidias next cards for a good laugh.

Aside from that I honestly dont spend 1000 on a card. I get more bang for my buck at that special $200 - $500 price point. Those cards are always better in nvidia.

Honestly all the stuff you wrote is just so manipulated and skewed. Your like Fox news lol.

If you look at that same graph that the gtx titan underperfomrs in maya.. then u look ant nvidia 680 which performs same as titan.. because guess what.. thats what the titan is lol... and maya dont support dual gpus.. titan is a dual 680. So half the card is being used. Not to mention your still talking a card thats over ayear older then the one your trying to compare.

Again.. if your a gamer, nvidia with their drivers.. always outperforms nvidia and has longer life span. Nvidia is better for overclocking, nvidia has phhysx which games have today which looks incredable. You can keep talkn open cl if u want.. name one game that uses it. Just one lol.

Like I said you get what you pay for. Ati is for video games to run cheap and look good. Nvidia is for the elitest crowd that want it to look the best that it possibly can. Add features that ati cant have, and function as a cpu in other applications. Ati has kept their focus on graphics cards for desktops and consoles. Nvidia has expanded to every market.. catering to developers, to mobile, to fucking cars lol.

Simply put, with ati your cutting features to save on cost. Oh and nvidia supports opengl and opencl lol. So to say it will somehow negatively impact nvidia owners is a flat out lie. OpenCl is a universal buggy format. Physx is patented by nvidia however.

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weirdo3851d ago

this is an incredible time, competition always benefits the gamer. i'd love my setup to include both a ps4, and a steam machine. kudos to amd for another aaa contract - the right staff make the difference

creepjack3851d ago

Of course they will. AMD is the cheapest, and the only way to make it cost efficient. You get what you pay for though.....

I use to be a big AMD fan, but after using an Intel/Nvidia combo for a while now, well, it's gonna take a lot for AMD to win me back.

Petro3851d ago

First what AMD needs to do is up their linux driver development, right now you cant have AMD card and play games on linux.

Kurylo3d3851d ago

I cant live without my nvidia card. It is just awesome for things like video editing and anything else that turns the gpu into an 800 core cpu.... amd is severely lacking in that department.

Saryk3851d ago

AMD will be the cheaper boxes, while Nvidia and Intel are more expensive.

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Make your next GPU upgrade AMD as these latest-gen Radeon cards receive a special promotion

AMD has long been the best value option if you're looking for a new GPU. Now even their latest Radeon RX 7000 series is getting cheaper.

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Father__Merrin3d ago

Best for the money is the Arc cards

just_looken3d ago

In the past yes but last gen amd has gotten cheaper and there new cards are on the horizon making 6k even cheaper.

The arc cards are no longer made by intel but asus/asrock has some the next line battlemage is coming out prices tbd.

Do to the longer software development its always best to go amd over intel if its not to much more money even though intel is a strong gpu i own 2/4 card versions.

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AMD FSR 3.1 Announced at GDC 2024, FSR 3 Available and Upcoming in 40 Games

Last September, we unleashed AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 3 (FSR 3)1 on the gaming world, delivering massive FPS improvements in supported games.

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Eonjay34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

So to put 2 and 2 together... FSR 3.1 is releasing later this year and the launch game to support it is Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart. In Sony's DevNet documentation it shows Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart as the example for PSSR. PS5 Pro also launches later this year... but there is something else coming too: AMD RDNA 4 Cards (The very same technology thats in the Pro). So, PSSR is either FSR 3.1 or its a direct collaboration with AMD for that builds on FSR 3.1. Somehow they are related. I think PSSR is FSR 3.1 with the bonus of AI... now lets see if RDNA 4 cards also include an AI block.

More details:
FSR 3.1 fixes Frame Generation
If you have a 30 series RTX card you can now use DLSS3 with FSR Frame Generation (No 40 Series required!)
Its Available on all Cards (we assume it will come to console)
Fixes Temporal stability

MrDead34d ago

I've been using a mod that allows dlss frame gen on my 3080 it works on all rtx series. It'll be good not to rely on mods for the future.

darksky33d ago

The mods avaiable are actually using FSR3 frame gen but with DLSS or FSR2 upscaling.

Babadook733d ago (Edited 33d ago )

I think that the leaks about the 5 Pro would debunk the notion that the two (FSR 3.1 and PSSR) are the same technology. PSSR is a Sony technology.

MrDead34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I wonder how much they fixed the ghosting in dark areas as Nvidia are leaving them in the dust with image quality. Still good that they are improving in big leaps, I'll have to see when the RTX5000 series is released who I go with... at the moment the RTX5000's are sounding like monsters.

just_looken34d ago

Did you see the dell leaks were they are trying to cool cards using over 1k watts of power.

We are going to need 220 lines for next gen pcs lol

MrDead34d ago

That's crazy! Sounds like heating my house won't be a problem next winter.

porkChop33d ago

As much as I hate supporting Nvidia, AMD just doesn't even try to compete. Their whole business model is to beat Nvidia purely on price. But I'd rather pay for better performance and better features. AMD also doesn't even try to innovate. They just follow Nvidia's lead and make their own version of whatever Nvidia is doing. But they're always 1 or 2 generations behind when it comes to those software/driver innovations, so Nvidia is always miles ahead in quality and performance.

MrDead33d ago

I do a lot of work on photoshop so an Intel Nvidia set up has been the got to because of performance edge, more expensive but far more stable too. Intel also have the edge over AMD processors with better load distribution on the cores, less spikes and jitters. When you're working large format you don't want lag or spikes when you're editing or drawing.

I do think AMD has improved massively though and whist I don't think they threaten Nvidia on the tech side they do make very well priced cards and processors for the power. I'm probably going with a 5080 or 5090 but AMD will get a little side look from me, which is a first in a long time... but like you said they are a generation or two behind at the moment.

Goosejuice33d ago

While I can't argue for amd gpu, they aren't bad but they aren't great either. The cpu for amd have great. I would argue the 7800x3d as one of the best cpu for gaming right now. Idk about editing so I take ur word for that but gaming amd cpu is a great option these days.

porkChop32d ago

@Goosejuice

I have a 7800X3D. It certainly is great for gaming. Though for video editing, rendering, etc, I think Intel have the advantage from what I remember. I just mean from a GPU standpoint I can't support them.

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Now that the RTX 4070 Super has launched, AMD have chopped the price of the RX 7900 XT to new lows.

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