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Q&A: Microsoft’s Spencer on Xbox One Demand

The introduction of Microsoft’s next-generation game console has not gone smoothly.

Initially, the company upset some users by introducing new rules restricting the sale and trade of game disks, while requiring the new machine to connect to the Internet every day. Even though it reversed those policies,the perception that Microsoft had stumbled became a theme that echoed across the Internet months before the launch.

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mewhy323933d ago

@dboyc310
That's a good one. It reminds me of the E3 audience at the micro$oft conference. Now on topic. The PS4is outselling the bone world wide. period.

jackanderson19853933d ago

it's not outselling a thing because it hasn't even been released yet

BG115793933d ago

Because probably the PS4 will come out in more than 13 countries?
That should give you a hint.

jmc88883933d ago (Edited 3933d ago )

That's a very incorrect way of seeing things.

I guess the thousands upon thousands that have already paid for their consoles and/or traded in earlier systems was just for fun right?

Sure some people could cancel non-paying pre-orders. But most people wouldn't pre-order it to begin with if they didn't have a legitimate desire to own it.

Others paid a small deposit down. Either way the moment a single person paid a single dollar for the console, the sales began.

What's next, saying no one played GTA V until the release date?

UltimateMaster3933d ago (Edited 3933d ago )

Xbone is just a short term to Xbox One.
Hey, don't look at the gamer, Microsoft is the one who called it One.
I'm not the one calling it an Xbone.
I see pirates when you say Xbone... like they want to take over your ship and steal everything you possess.

...Oh, I get it now.

jackanderson19853932d ago

@BG11579

check out MS sales in those 18 countries that Sony is launching where the xbox one isn't.... they don't amount to that much over 8 years

@jmc8888

it's actually a very correct way of looking at things. Pre-orders are just saying maybe I'll take this in november... even those who pay a deposit/full price can get it back if they don't want the console. Lots of people pre-order these things at launch in the hopes of selling em on at a ridiculously inflated price.

Sometimes shit happens at the local stores like they've run out of stock so when Billy comes in to pick up his PS4 they've none in stock so they'll either say wait till we get new stock or offer him a xbox one to buy (they're a business they'll try sell anything).

Not sure where the analogy of playing GTA came in but ok yeah sure.

@ultimatemaster

I haven't a clue what you are on about

alexkoepp3932d ago

Countries launched in really doesn't matter. If there are 1 million of each system available at launch and Xbox only sells in US, and Playstation launches in every country on earth, there are still only 1 million units available. Launching in all those countries means people in the US have less available consoles to buy... and US is the only country that matters... go USA!

BG115793931d ago

@jackanderson1985 @alexkoepp
The PS4 has been in production full-throttle since the middle of the year. There were no production problems that rose until today. Sony is speaking of + millions pre-orders and an objective of 5 millions console sold until March 2014.
Even so, it's true that a drought of PS4 may occurs in the beginning after the pre-orders are shipped.
Yet; Sony is looking very optimistically to the sale numbers of the PS4. They must have a reason.

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Belking3933d ago

lol..yea right...and 3ds is smashing vita world wide....so is the old DS...lol

sic_chops3933d ago

Still sold more than M$'s handheld. Last word.

OpieWinston3933d ago

Kids these days, you're so narrow minded.

awesomeperson3933d ago

From reading your comment history - you really shouldn't be calling anyone a "narrow minded" kid.

But on that subject, what is narrow-minded about his comment? Sure it reeks of fanboyism, as do most comments on this site, but what he said is true. The PS4 is, and will, outsell the Xbox One worldwide.

The real challenge for Sony is if they can regain marketshare in the UK and the US.

LogicStomper3933d ago

"But on that subject, what is narrow-minded about his comment?"

The term 'fanboy' is used to describe one who has a undeniable bias towards one thing. They would only see the negatives about an alternative and all the positives about their preferred thing. Using this definition, we can now say that this also fits under the term narrow-minded.

So OpieWinston stands correct. Not feeling so awesome now huh?

Trekster_Gamer3933d ago

Oh there is a shocker yet another Sony troll first to comment...

walkincarpet3933d ago

x1 may have slow start but will sell more in the casual market because of all its features just like PS3 numbers were boosted for blu-ray.

Gekko363932d ago

@All The praystation will do well so will the Xbox One.

Pick a console and buy it. This baby arguement of "mines better than yours" is that of young children who haven't learned how to share.

It's like playing as kids and the boy who owns the ball, get the hump with the others and takes his ball hom.

Chill, buy a Praystation if you want and enjoy.

Stop the nit picking and relax

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xDHAV0K24x3933d ago

Sooo ur saying x1 will fail like the wiiu?

WeAreLegion3933d ago

The Xbox One will outsell the Wii U within months of release. The PS4 will, too. Just saying. Lol. I have a Wii U.

It's a graveyard of sadness. :/

GraveLord3933d ago

Nope. Not a chance.

Xbox One will be successful enough, just not PS4 successful.

MasterCornholio3932d ago

I believe that the Xbox One will sell better than the Wii U but less than the PS4 during its first year on the market. After that anything can happen.

Nexus 7 2013

kingdip903933d ago

I wonder why they won't talk pre order nunbers? I would love to know what they are...

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MorePowerOfGreen3933d ago (Edited 3933d ago )

There has to be a date or deadline for Microsoft to reveal specifics. Microsoft has never spewed numbers randomly. You won't know until after dates like Black friday and the like. Advertising and all the details of the console are not even in full gear yet. What would be the point?

Lets not forget Microsoft sells the Xbox One in their stores and on their websites not to mention on Xbox Live.

Chevalier3933d ago

Yeah no point in talking about how bad they are losing in preorders they should just focus on positives. If they had good numbers they'd be talking about it plain and simple. My store has 302 ps4 preorders and only 44 xbox ones, not single store out of 9 in my city has over 50 units whereas ps4 numbers are over 150 per store (over 100 system preorders are unheard of till ps4 came along). Our top store has 451 preorders for ps4 and about 100 xbox ones preordered, only store that comes close to those ps4 numbers is in New York somewhere.

MorePowerOfGreen3933d ago

Yeah I don't know the allocation details of both companies at any given time or area.

I don't know if you're talking over time in total or all at once which both seem hard to believe unless effect by what I got at above.

thekhurg3933d ago

They're definitely lower than PS4 - and did anyone find it odd that he sort of wrote off sales this year? Saying that sales won't play out until NEXT holiday and beyond.

They're probably going to have some inventory issues in meeting the demand that'll be out there this year. So they'll downplay any significance for starting strong out the gate.

Chevalier3933d ago

@Regis

No they won't because our actual xbox one stock we're given is pathetically low so I'd say it's pretty unlikely. MS are the ones that got us to close our preorders of their own doing and I can assure you while Microsoft wants to tell you the demand is high and it's due to high demand it's not. When they were telling you guys they were sold out it was actually not a lie, just nice twisting of words. When we 'sold out' we had a whopping 40 TOTAL xbox one units and now in 2 weeks since we reopened xbox one orders we sold 4 more, while Microsoft cut our stock Sony said keep going and now we're at 302 ps4's which is just beyond ridiculous (no pun intended with 'Beyond' by the way however fitting). We have NEVER seen numbers like Sony are getting ever, certainly in 6 years I worked at EB have never seen numbers like this. Unfortunately xbox one is still floundering about.

Godoftheweek3933d ago (Edited 3933d ago )

My store had 120 PS2 preorders for comparison. Woodfield mall Funcoland ( now Gamestop) Chicago burb Illinois. It was the store with the most preorders out of any store in the Chicago area. I had a Japanese modded PS2 that I brought to my store on a regular basis so that I could increase preorders. I even had the unreleased Madden 2001.

300 is ridiculous. PS4 will dwarf any console launch before it I m o.

You can book it, lead pipe lock it, and cue up the gravity challenged lady.

dethpuck3933d ago

If they sell all they can produce what is the problem? Ps4 is doing great no question. But x1 will sell just fine especially when halo 5 and titanfall drop. I'm getting both consoles so I don't care I want both to be successful

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IGN Instructed & Offered Prizes for Crowd to Cheer During Phil Spencer and Other Live Interviews

During the IGN Live interview with Phil Spencer, the crowd cheered even if the topic was about closures, and its because they were told to.

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Snookies1212d ago

Just reading this headline alone made me feel grimy. Disgusting, all around. Haven't trusted IGN since over a decade ago, so this isn't really surprising to hear.

Leeroyw11d ago

IGN lost a lot of credibility a long time ago. Now they're running on fumes.

MrDead11d ago

MS are buying up the industry so you need a compliant media to tell you how awesome consolidation and mass layoffs are... and they know MS is IP hunting too, they will be cut off from review copies of some of gaming's biggest IP's if they don't play ball.

peppeaccardo11d ago

The only way they can rise excitement in a crowd is paying for it. LAMENESS is MIcrosoft best product to date.

Skuletor12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I think that kind of thing night be standard. I once was in the audience for Wheel of Fortune and there was a guy that briefed us before the show on his hand signals, when we were supposed to react/applaud and stuff like that and we were told to check under our seats because one of them had a prize underneath it.

Edit: Okay, read the article, this was definitely some slimy behaviour by IGN and it sounds like it wasn't just on the behalf of Xbox either.

Also, since IGN bought Humble Bundle years ago, they stopped occasionally giving a game away for free during certain big sales events etc, screw IGN.

Profchaos12d ago

It is for say a game show or similar shows for entertainment purposes but a interview not really.

Petebloodyonion11d ago

Bruno Rodriguez confirmed that his statement applied to the entire three-day Fanfest event, not solely Phil Spencer's interview. Regrettably, this part of his response is absent from the article, which raises questions about its omission.
Here is the complete explanation
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DarXyde11d ago

Petebloodyonion,

It is an odd omission. While I do believe IGN has some problematic biases, one can't really say it's done for Spencer in light of this information.

Good follow up.

Inverno12d ago

IGN not being trustworthy? Yeah we've been knowing that.

GaboonViper12d ago

I remember when they gave Alien Isolation a bad review because the alien AI acted like a actual Xenomorph which was free to do what it wanted and hunt you down, and docked Days Gone points because it had a white female as Deacons Girl, oh and they have one of the worst fanboys in Dustin, he has no shame whatsoever.

Inverno12d ago

Don't forget "too much water". It's like they hate hire people that hate their jobs. This is a people problem, when people aren't humbled they become full of themselves. IGN and other news publishers have been given too much sway, and too much preferential treatment. They forget they're meant to inform the people, and have instead become a tool to sell an image these companies want to portray. Perception of power and authority and influence corrupts people.

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Former PlayStation CEO Shawn Layden Was Baited to Mock Xbox Boss Phil Spencer

Former PlayStation CEO Shawn Layden mocked Xbox Chief Phil Spencer on Twitter over his comments in a recent interview, though it seems the former PlayStation boss didn't see the entire interview before reacting.

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Sonic188112d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Must be a slow news day 🙄 😴 We're talking about a former ceo that doesn't even work for Sony anymore

VenomUK12d ago

@mp1st.com’s Ibrahim Kabir is so invested in the format wars that when Shawn Layden called out Phil Spencer for his hypocritical stance on Call of Duty exclusivity, Ibrahim got upset at the mocking of Spencer. So now he’s written a useless article to say Phil Spencer deliberately said that because IT WAS A TRAP?!!

Please stop this nonsense, just stop it. Write about news, not this crap.

DarXyde11d ago

The Heart Part 7 is even worse than Part 6 somehow. 🤭

neomahi12d ago

And not a very good one either. Jacky T!!! Now that guy

ArmrdChaos11d ago

Just more senseless crap in attempts to distract us away from all the DEI BS the industry is trying to pull.

derek12d ago

He wasn't baited, it was a stupid hypocritical comment from one Phillip Spencer which is par for the course for him.

Reaper22_12d ago

What was stupid about what he said?

CrimsonWing6912d ago

Yea I was trying to figure that out, too.

VersusDMC12d ago

Well he saying he didn't want to do slimy tactics because he wants it to go to everyone like he's a saint...but we know Starfield still isn't on PS and the call of duty parity is due to a 10 year contract they signed to help get the Activision buy out to go through.
https://www.google.com/amp/...

He also complained that he couldn't advertize COD on their showcase because of the Marketing deal Sony had with COD when they had one with Cyberpunk and currently have one with all the Atlus games. It's just hypocrisy all around.

Giga_Gaia11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@VersusDMC they're also the ones who did those deals first on the 360. You'd also bet if they were market leader, they'd be doing the same thing because Microsoft are a bunch of hypocrites.

Also, Phil Spencer is far from a saint. I've never seen such a despicable and worthless human being in my entire life. Plus his stupid smile, clearly evil and I just want to punch him in the face as hard as I can.

Gamepass is good for gamers, but the worst thing for developers and you can bet if it takes off even more, the monthly fee will skyrocket. Not that it will, the subscriptions aren't increasing and I seriously doubt they will, they've reach their peak already.

DivineHand12511d ago

@Giga_Gaia I don't know what's worse the comment or the people who liked your comment.
"Phil Spencer is far from a saint. I've never seen such a despicable and worthless human being in my entire life. Plus his stupid smile, clearly evil and I just want to punch him in the face as hard as I can."

He is the CEO of a video game company. I can think of a hundred other people who deserve that level of hatred.

You failed to mention what vile act was done by Phil Spenser but I suspect the main thing he is really guilty of is that he is Sony's main competitor. Xbox in the 360 days is much different than the Xbox of today so whatever was done back then doesn't apply to how Xbox is being run today. Had Xbox continued with that style of management, they would likely have remained the market leader by a significant margin as they would purposely outbid Sony on every deal. Except what we are hearing Phil Spenser say is that Sony is making all these deals which are detrimental to Xbox which is odd because he has more money than PlayStation. This leads me to believe that his style of leadership is much different from what we know Xbox was back in the 360 days.
Leave this console war nonsense behind. They are just pieces of plastic for your entertainment. Start thinking like a consumer and show no loyalty to either side.

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Lightning7712d ago

"And Microsoft absolutely ripped Hifi rush, redfall and Starfield off playstation as they had PS5 versions in development."

Big difference between knowing the back room politics of what we found out and those games not being formerly announced to be on PS in the first place, vs a game like Stellar Blade that was announced to the world that its coming to Xbox only years later no longer coming to Xbox. Again those games weren't announced to be on PS. Plus, just like COD they own those games which means they can do what they please with those games. Hi FI made it on PS5 eventually.

Unlike Final Fantasy remakes, keeping a 3rd party IP off other platforms. IP Sony doesn't own. You're right MS was very slimy mainly during the 360 days and early X1 days. As of late in the past 8+ years or so Sony has been doing more 3rd party deals and having timed exclusive things compared to MS. Again I go where the facts are, as you know.

shinoff218311d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Ms hasn't had many 3rd party exclusives games cause all the 3rd party games their paying for day 1 on gamepass. Idk how tf yall can't see that. They can't pay for both. Well won't pay for both. So what do you want. Day 1 3rd party or 3rd party exclusives

Also come on we already know game sales just aren't there

VersusDMC11d ago

So if Sony bought Square and every Square game was exclusive to playstation it would be fine but 3 Square games exclusive to PS5 and several on other consoles is worse?

And Microsoft is slimy for not releasing Indiana Jones on PS5 because it is IP Microsoft doesn't own, right?

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Lightning7711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

"So if Sony bought Square and every Square game was exclusive to playstation it would be fine but 3 Square games exclusive to PS5 and several on other consoles is worse?"

Yeah since they would own them. They can do as they please. If the roles were reversed you would be real mad at MS for keeping those games to themselves instead of investing in new IP MS would poach 3rd party constantly, like they use to do. Everyone would hate MS for making the remakes only on Xbox, I mean everyone. Let's not pretend ppl won't.

From a PR standpoint Phil won't mention all the slimy stuff he used to do constantly. Like the entire 360 generation and early x1 days until fans and media blasted him when it came to TR. That's just common sense he won't talk about that.

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MrBeatdown12d ago

Everyone knows exactly what Phil was doing.

Hofstaderman12d ago

Misdirecting, lying, projecting....the list can go on and on.

anast12d ago

These are two professional sleaze bags. They know what they are doing when it comes to lying, being slimy and turning a profit. They might be okay outside of work, but while they are playing out their drama for a paycheck, their characters are the moustache twirling bad guy.

Reaper22_12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I think most people knew that was just click bait stuff meant to get a rise out of sony fans. Unfortunately, some fell for it. Phil wasn't taking a shot at sony or anyone else. All he meant was we are giving you a choice.

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Former PlayStation Boss Responds to Phil Spencer's 'Slimy' Comment

The former boss of PlayStation has responded to some recent comments made by Xbox head Phil Spencer in a recent interview. The wide-ranging interview covered a variety of topics, with the conversation at one point leading Spencer to mention that he doesn't want to do "slimy platform things" to force gamers to play games a certain way, which has now prompted a response by PlayStation's former leader.

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“Phillip W. Spencer III:"Xbox’s aim with Call of Duty is to give players choice, not "do slimy platform things" that make one option more appealing."

Yet Xbox were the ones who started this exclusive crap with CoD during the 360/PS3 era. This guy is something else.

CrashMania13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Yep, some of their fans also parrot this hypocritical line, MS started and popularised that trend, then spent 80 billion.

Pot kettle black.

Old McGroin13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

"MS started and popularised that trend"

What a load of horse poo. Atari was paying for and securing exclusives back in the '80s. It's been around since the dawn of gaming, they're all at it. The earliest one I actually remember as it played out was Sony hijacking Final Fantasy 7 from Nintendo.

Edit: just read the comments again, are ye only talking about COD exclusive deals? If so then yeah, ye're probably right!

shinoff218313d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Old mcgroin

Just a heads up. Nintendo lost square by staying with cartridge. That's fact. After square pleaded with Nintendo to switch to a larger format. So Sony didn't really hi jack anything.

Last where we're you before Sony even entered cause this was common during Sega vs Nintendo.

Also before that I believe on nes. Developers used to have to sign like a 2 year exclusivity with Nintendo to be on their platform.

Might wanna read up a bit

Old McGroin13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

@shinoff2183

"where we're you before Sony even entered cause this was common during Sega vs Nintendo."

"Might wanna read up a bit"

Might want to take your own advice and maybe read the start of my comment where I said "Atari was paying for and securing exclusives back in the '80s. It's been around since the dawn of gaming".

Gaming didn't start with Nintendo buddy.

Lightning7713d ago

They definitely didn't start the trend it's been around for ages.

-Foxtrot12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@Old McGroin4h

"Sony hijacking Final Fantasy 7 from Nintendo"

Square Enix and a few other developers wanted Nintendo to adopt a disc format over the cartridge which they saw as outdated.

Sony literally came to Nintendo with a business proposition to make a console together, the Nintendo-PlayStation which would utilize that new format. Nintendo being the stubborn guys they are told them no, refused the disc format and eventually that lead Sony to go at it themselves.

Nintendo lost Final Fantasy because of their own choices, they didn't want to grow or evolve...the same issue they still have today in places.

Fact is exclusive deals and timed content is something Microsoft really hammered down on in the 360 days. What Atari did was no where near the same level as Microsoft who had so much money in comparison.

COD deals, games like Mass Effect, Bioshock, Tales of Vesperia, Dead Rising 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider and timed DLC expansions...Microsoft had it all.

neomahi12d ago

@ Old McGroin - What, are you mental? Do you know gaming history? Sony didn't "hijack" Square and Final Fantasy VII. Nintendo refused to go the CD route because they were too easy to pirate. Nintendo was ALWAYS and still is to this day combating piracy as their number one goal. Final Fantasy was a pretty big game and I believe held the record for the most discs at one time. Granted, the game size itself isn't actually three discs long, we saw what could be done with Resident Evil 2 fitting on a 64MB cartridge but the quality was bad and Final Fantasy would have met the same fate. Squaresoft made the decision to go PlayStation just as many developers did. Nintendo was very controlling and their hardware was difficult and expensive. Sony had hired Steve Race from Sega whom had taken everything he learned from Sega and Tom Kalinski and applied it to the PlayStation. Sony made it easy for developers. Xbox goes to daddy Microsoft, who has deep pockets, and asks him for money to bail him out. We saw this with Peter Moore when he was Executive VP of Xbox under, then CEO of Microsoft at the time Steve Ballmer. Moore went to Ballmer and asked him for 1 billion to solve the Xbox 360 Red Ring of Death problem, which Xbox has ALWAYS had a problem with, they can't design hardware, which is why they need to exit the hardware business, but Sony didn't "hijack" Square from Nintendo. Nintendo made a lot of bad business decisions and Squaresoft didn't like it. Sony was making all the rights one doing business as Sega had done, but learned from Segas mistakes of having a wedge between Japan and America, Sony divisions worked in better cooperation, they had to or they would have failed just like Sega, so it was Nintendo who did it to themselves sticking with an expensive cartridge to mitigate piracy, but wouldn't ya know it? Pirates still found a way

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S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Every word out of MS can be flipped on its head to reveal the truth.

ravens5213d ago

Don't you get the beta early if you have gamepass, that's what I heard.

Reaper22_13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

"Yet Xbox were the ones who started this exclusive crap with CoD during the 360/PS3 era. This guy is something else."

That's not actually true. Sony paid to keep games off of Nintendo and sega back in day. Plus they payed blocking rights to keep certain games off of gamepass which is probably what Phil may be referring to. Imo that makes them slimey too if we're being honest. At the end of the day it's just business. There is no doubt in my mind that if sony could make huge purchases like Microsoft, they would. You probably won't see sony respond with an official statement because they know they are just as guilty.

Einhander197213d ago

"Sony paid to keep games off of Nintendo and sega back in day."

That's not actually true.

Nintendo (and Sega) had licensing of games exclusive to their system way before PlayStation even existed, and both used 3'rd party developers to make licensed games exclusively for their hardware.

You and Microsoft are literally trying to rewrite history.

fr0sty13d ago

To be fair here, Einhander, Phil didn't mention Sony by name with his comment, it was just implied.
That said, the practice goes all the way back to the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" that not only limited developers to publishing on NES, but also limited the number of games they could make per year to 5.

blackblades13d ago

Nintendo did it, sega did it was business at the end of the day. Y'all people gotta stop rolling on the Sony did it back in the day nonsense. Always blaming someone and back in the day was back in the day stop going that far back in time.

Crows9013d ago (Edited 13d ago )

You're creating a strawman here. Nobody claimed Sony didn't do that type of tactic. He specifically singled out CoD since that's what the whole topic and Phil's statement was about.

Don't be dishonest man

Regardless it's not about who done it first....it's about who is doing it now.

shinoff218313d ago

You do know that Xbox does the same thing right. Xbox blocks Sony, Sony blocks Xbox. Please stop crying about gamepass. Thats the root of the problem.

neomahi12d ago

What examples do you have of this? I would argue there are none. Sony didn't pay a dime. Steve Race was the CEO of PlayStation under Olaf Olaffson at that time. Race learned from Sega (Tom Kalinski) how run a game company. SEGA didn't even buy devs off, you couldn't, you didn't have too because Nintendo was notorious for treating developers and publishers so badly. All you had to do in those days, was be respectful and treat people like humans, that built strong relationships and making things easy was what did it vs the Nintendo Ultra 64 was known for being difficult. I think it's that simple.

A prime example of this is Andy Gavin and Jason Reuben who started Naughty Dog. They originally wanted to develop for the Sega Saturn, Crash Bandicoot was almost on Sega as well but after they saw how complicated it was and how much easier the PlayStation was they opted to develop for PlayStation. And this was pre-Sony Acquisition. Sony didn't offer them any money, they were backed by Universal under former Sega employee and game developer Mark Cerny at that time. Eventually, you're probably right, but Sony didn't start sliding money Squares way. PlayStation built a platform that was undeniable. They were a clone of Sega but without all the SoA and SoJ drama, they got along better, but Race took everything he learned from Sega and applied it to PlayStation. I think Tom Kalinski was a little jealous of Race though, I think he wanted the job but Race may have spoken to Sony first and snuck in before Kalinski could have even been asked. Eventually, Sony did start playing that game, they all do, but it wasn't really needed just because PlayStation was so smart with their marketing and making it easy for developers. Remember, Nintendo was notorious for being difficult, possessive, shrewd, fanatical, and would sue for just about anything. They were tyrants but they had respect because Atari had killed the industry and to this day, Nintendo is still given respect solely because they brought gaming back and paved a trail for how to do business, at least mostly right in an industry where people had been shut down big time so, no matter who you are, you HAVE to give that respect to Nintendo. But, PlayStation, as they learned from Sega was developer relationships. Xbox doesn't have that and that's why you're not seeing PlayStation snapping up Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear IP to keep it on PlayStation is because PlayStation doesn't play that game as much of Xbox because Xbox has such deep pockets. If Sony played that game, you wouldn't see Final Fantasy on Xbox or Metal Gear at all or Sony would've boughten those IP. Sony is relying on long term relationships with publishers for loyalty, Xbox doesn't have that because they showed up much later

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DarkKaine13d ago

The first instance of this crap I remember is Soul Calibur II. GameCube got Link, Xbox had Yoda and PS2 had Darth Vader.

darthv7213d ago

you are thinking Soul Calibur 4 for the SW characters. Soul Calibur 2 had Link (GC), Spawn (XB) and Heihachi (PS2). Then Soul Calibur 3 was exclusive to the PS2 while Soul Calibur 4 was on 360/PS3... no Nintendo version until Soul Calibur Legends for Wii.

Skuletor13d ago

Adding on to what darth said, Soulcalibur II HD came out later on PS3 (maybe Xbox 360 too?) and it included the PS2 exclusive character Heihachi and the Xbox exclusive fighter Spawn but unsurprisingly, Link wasn't included

Soul Calibur IV on Xbox had Yoda (hate fighting that short bastard) and PS3 had Darth Vader but each platform had the other fighter as paid DLC.

darthv7213d ago

True... and yet the kind of 'exclusivity' MS paid for was usually timed. The same things would still come to the PS but when Sony does it they make it so what they pay for stays exclusive.

I get paying to get something sooner, but paying to keep others from ever getting it too... that shit is slimy AF.

romulus2313d ago

"but paying to keep others from ever getting it too... that shit is slimy AF "

So than you agree the Act/Blizz and Zenimax deals are slimy AF becasue there are definitely former multi-plat games PlayStation gamers lost becasue of the aqusitions.

darthv7213d ago

@romulus, the entire practice is slimy, no matter who does it. Especially if the games in question were initially mutliplat and then became paid exclusives through acquisitions or contractual obligations.

As far as I know, MS has not removed access to any existing games for PS gamers. You can probably look to ones that were initially announced but never released until after, those likely shouldnt count because they weren't existing games in franchises that were always multiplatform. We can look to games such as Street Fighter V as a good example of a game in a multiplatform series that suddenly became exclusive and other gamers lost out on. Same goes for Dead Rising 3. Both of which were some back alley deal made between Capcom and the platform holder which YES... those are slimy AF.

FlintGREY13d ago

@Darth
"True... and yet the kind of 'exclusivity' MS paid for was usually timed. The same things would still come to the PS but when Sony does it they make it so what they pay for stays exclusive."

Like Dead Rising 3? 🤔

shinoff218313d ago

Can you blame Sony for paying for exclusives. Ms went and bought up 2 major publishers, many studios , alot of the wrpg market.

Are you as upset ps fans don't get to play Ms 3rd party exclusives as well

darthv7213d ago

@shin... in the grand timeline of things... Sony paying for exclusives predates anything MS did since joining the club.

Christopher13d ago

***As far as I know, MS has not removed access to any existing games for PS gamers.***

In what time frame? Recently? No. But, you know, they definitely have.

And why do we always goal post with 'removed access to any existing games' as if that's the only slimy thing these companies are doing, specifically the fact that Microsoft is buying up massive publishers to control where those games go just like Sony making agreements with third parties (who can say no, btw).

BlackTar18712d ago

Did any of these companies you mention help pay for development? If they did then what’s the problem? Anything you say darth is just like phil its a90% garbage.

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Christopher13d ago

Phil says things but it's the actions of the company he runs that just nullifies all of his statements. You can't call a company slimy for using money to buy exclusives when you do the exact same thing by buying out studios and making their new games exclusives. At least up until the point you realize you're not selling enough and need to put them on that other platform to make the game studios stick around and exist.

richardmmorales12d ago

There's a difference. Buying a studio you own the actual game. While the other you're just paying to purposely stop the game from releasing on another platform. When you actually own something you should have the right to do with it as you like. Not when you don't own it. And as other's have stated Sony did this back in the day before Microsoft ever made Xbox. It's why I laugh when people claim Sony creates stuff from the ground up. then get upset that Microsoft buys studios. When Sony did the same thing when they first started Playstation. And it's the same with people complaining about studios being shutdown and employees being released. when it's been happening all over the industry. the real issue is game development has jut got way out of hand. Games are too expensive and take way too long to make now a days. It's a whole industry issue.

Christopher12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

***There's a difference. Buying a studio you own the actual game. While the other you're just paying to purposely stop the game from releasing on another platform.***

https://imgur.com/BOK3bhj

***When you actually own something you should have the right to do with it as you like. Not when you don't own it.***

You do know that the owners of a game AGREE to make it exclusive when they sign exclusive deals, right? Do you think Sony goes in with guns and forces them to do it or they die? The people who own the IP are still making the decision as to where it goes.

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Crows9013d ago

Yeah...I love how now that's a plus while also limiting IP from other platforms at the same time. What a bullshit slimy car salesman tactic.

Anyone with a brain or memory bigger than a pea can remember who started cod bs

PhillyDonJawn13d ago

Phil wasn't in charge during that era. And when he got his spot he ended that.

343_Guilty_Spark13d ago

Sony started it in the 90s whippersnapper.

Samonuske13d ago

And GTA + Fallout dlc too. At that point for all we knew it was indefinite.

lelo2play12d ago

Do you realise that Sony has been making exclusive 3rd party deals since the PS1 (even before the existence of Xbox)?

Claiming that Microsoft started exclusive 3rd party crap is just plain ignorance.

GamerRN12d ago

Wait are we pretending PlayStation didn't do paid third party exclusives before Microsoft? Now I've heard it all ...

DarXyde12d ago

I feel like it started before that. One can say that Soul Calibur II predates CoD deals with exclusive content for multiplatform games.

I don't really care "who started it" because they all do it, honestly. Just on the merits of hypocrisy, yeah, Spencer deserves to be handed his ass.

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Terry_B13d ago

Phil was and is the right man for the company he is working for. Slimy..through and through. The Persons as well as the company itself.

TheProfessional13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Wow so you all really loved corporate scum like Jim Ryan then? All the games as a service projects and no backwards compatibility unless it's an overpriced remaster? And abandoning Twisted metal, resistance, syphon, getaway and all of the other IPs?

And if Phil is so bad why did the xbox showcase/the games he greenlit annihilate PS last presentation?

"You scared bro?"

Aloymetal13d ago

No one is scared, have you seen the hardware/software sales from the most irrelevant gaming brand in the past 15 yrs aka the green brand...???
Their latest show was so ''AmAzInG'' that they'll be able to sell at least 40 more consoles/games and capture the attention of at least 6 more gamers around the planet...

shinoff218313d ago

Phil's a blowhard , and fk Jim Ryan to. I feel Jim's the reason sonys at were their at. Game wise. To say blew the lead is such and overstatement though lol. Ps is still killing Xbox.

Doomeduk13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Getting moist over a showcase really. ? let's take a short step in time to Redfall and it's epic showcase remembering the part how the AI adapts like never before and CrackDown with the power of " The Cloud "
Young chap it's advertising nothing more nothing less that power mop turbo in the advert will not clean your floor quicker
The fixation on Jim Ryan is a bit creepy I'm not gonna lie pass the phone back to your Dad...foot steps..
Hello you don't know me but that child of yours is showing an unhealthy fascination with an old man please contact child services. Like yesterday

derek13d ago

@The Professional, Jim Ryan never portrayed himself to be the savor of gaming or act as if the company he works for was victimized by the evil competition like that chubby dope Philip Spencer. Lol. Ryan almost never talked yet here you are hating on him because the mindless masses told you to.
You xbox fans never learn, always running your mouth about Sony as soon as anything good happens for xbox. Yet after the games release and the sales results are shown, xbox stays dead last in both. It would be wise for you to hold off on the trash talking.

Hotpot12d ago

This is what’s wrong with you xbox fanboys. One dig at xbox and all you can see is that the person is a PS fanboy. There’s this thing called neutral where you are allowed to criticize both camps. Here I’ll bite, Jim Ryan is a d*ck for pushing the GaaS pivot within PS. Now’s your turn criticizing the slime Phil Spencer, go on.

Pixykont12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Are you saying Astro bot is annihilated? How embarrassing🥴 you're a joke. The Xbox showcase was great. Well done Microsoft. But why does it need to be compared to a 30 minute state of play that was announced out of nowhere 2 days prior?

Terry_B12d ago

Stop posting bad comments.

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italiangamer13d ago

POS boss for a POS brand with POS fans, that's what xbox is.
So good to see them begging for Sony and Nintendo money and making all their games multiplatform, they are the ultimate losers and got what they deserve.

TheProfessional13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

What trash you must be. Criticizing every fan of a brand you don't like. You're a great example of PS fans and bias. Anyone you don't agree with is wrong and stupid right? You must be a liberal.

shinoff218313d ago

I mean your a bit wrong to though lol. And of course just like a true repub, gotta resort to politics. Yall some straight crazy in the head mfs

LoveSpuds13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

"Critisizing every fan of a brand you don't like"

"You're a great example of PS fans and bias"

Oh the irony!!!

abstractel13d ago

I was kind of with you, except for the hate in your words, until you said "liberal". What is it with "conservatives" and their anger? :P

Should it really have to be said? Great games are great games, no matter what platform they come out on. Being a loyalist makes no sense. I do give Sony (and Nintendo) a lot of credit for nurturing and growing their first party developers and putting out the great games they do. Sony seemed to loose their way for a few years, hopefully they are back on the right track. I have a gripe with Nintendo and Microsoft, but only on a couple of issues. Nintendo selling us cheap hardware and thereby holding their games back and Microsoft for holding back this generation with Series S. I just want great games with hardware manufacturer supporting them by giving them the most power possible so developers can keep pushing gameplay. There's still so much more powerful hardware can offer us other than just graphical fidelity.

gold_drake12d ago

not sure what ones political views have anything to do with it but ok haha

CrashMania12d ago

'You must be a liberal'

Hilarious when you're the one in the replies acting like a 'triggered snowflake' lol.

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DarXyde12d ago

I'm no liberal, but I'll take someone thinking I'm stupid for disagreeing over actually enforcing policies dismantling reproductive rights and hypocritically crying about the victim mentality coming out of identity politics... But that's another discussion.

You realize that being a fan of something inherently means you have some sort of bias, right? Show me anyone without bias and I'm show you a liar, mate.

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XiNatsuDragnel13d ago

Microsoft are the definition of slimy imo

TheProfessional13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Jim Ryan is literally corporate scum who doesn't play games. Enjoy Concord.

Crows9013d ago

Weren't you just calling out someone else about how demonizing people is bad. Here you are thiugh

MrBeatdown13d ago

Ooh Jim gave the green light to a game you're not interested in. WhAt A sCuMbAg!

KwietStorm_BLM13d ago

Why do you keep bringing up Jim Ryan like anyone is defending him? lol he ain't even part of the discussion. He can kick rocks too. But you acting real hurt like Spencer is your daddy or somethin.

I_am_Batman13d ago

Phil Spencer surely must have the world record in the amount of times a CEO can put his foot in his mouth throughout his career. I honestly wonder why Microsoft even lets him do interviews at all at this point.

Lamusiqa12d ago

He's a nightmare to PR guys like me. The kind of boss that wont stick to the briefing deck and most likely to say the wrong shit or stir unnecessary shit up that will get the Comms team blamed for it.

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Chocoburger12d ago

Tommy Tallerico still holds the record for stupid interviews and comments. If you don't know what happened with the Amico its a fascinating tale of pure lies and idiocy. But yeah, Spencer is second place, perhaps one day, he'll even top Tommy.

Aphrodia11d ago

Phil spencer says what he does because the shill access media will do all the spinning for him. The major companies own the mainstream media .

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