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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Will Retire in the Next Year

Microsoft just announced that its CEO, Steve Ballmer, will retire within the next 12 months. He'll remain in his current position until Microsoft finds his replacement.

Benjammin254049d ago

More like Steve..Palmer! Get it?...because he's showing his palm in the picture?...Heh...get it?...Anyone?...I'll get my coat.

Tony-A4049d ago (Edited 4049d ago )

RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT, RETIREMENT!!!!!!

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/...

RandomDude6554049d ago

I LOVE THIS NURSING HOME BLURHGHGHGHGHHGHGHGHHGHGHHGHGH GHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH

Tony-A4049d ago

WHO SAID "TAKE YOUR MEDICINE?!?!"

DiRtY4049d ago

When Steve Ballmer became CEO of Microsoft:

Headcount: 50k
Revenue: $30B
Net income: $6B

Microsoft after 13 years with Steve Ballmer as CEO:

Headcount: 100k
Revenue: $77B
Net income: $22B

Good job, Steve! (No pun intended!)

You can hate on him, because of his legendary presentations, but he did a great job business wise.

Thehyph4049d ago

Agreed, good job to him.

As an aside though:
Compare Microsoft's to Apple's and Google's growths year over year from 2000 to now. Relevance comes in the form of those two being Microsoft's biggest competitors.

GodGinrai4049d ago

He did a good job. But I think its time. MS needs younger leadership for the era of convergience that we are in.

They are expanding into a devices and services company so its only natural that they need new leadership for that shift. They have all the tools there. just need better leadership. Maybe a new CEO will bring a new attitude to the company as a whole.

They need to get a better grip on the mobile OS market, They need to make windows 9 more desktop centric and make a seperate one for tablet/phones. And the Xbox 1 has all the tools it needs to be a very functional part of the living room while being connected to other windows based devices. but they are going to need leadership better leadership to realise their goals.

joe904049d ago

I think cliffy B should be working at the top for them. he's still in his prime for developing and has made numerous best selling titles and knows how to sell a product.

Although he is classed as the devil himself on N4G he has been a major part of the gaming world for the last 2 decades.

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MultiConsoleGamer4049d ago

Go out on top or go down with a sinking ship?

You tell me.

negative4049d ago

By this time next year? I think he'll be going out on top!!!!

gaffyh4049d ago (Edited 4049d ago )

...of a sinking ship.

:D

Seriously though, glad he's going, hopefully he actually goes unlike Yoichi Wada at Square who got kicked upstairs.

stuna14049d ago

When he retires, that will be around the time the sh#t hits the fan! It's just a matter of preparation!

Raincoat \ Check.
Umbrella \ Check.
Rainboots \ Check.
Anti-diarrheal medication \ Double Check.

No_Limit4049d ago

He is on top of a building so high that Sony can't sell. :p

nosferatuzodd4049d ago

lol they're dropping like fly's first Don Mattrick now him damn

Timesplitter144049d ago

Whatever happens to the X1, it won't really hurt Microsoft as a company

Baka-akaB4049d ago

Depends ... they do count on it and mobiles as a vehicule for their products .

RiPPn4049d ago

They don't need Xbox One or Surface or the NSA or Office 365 and so on to hurt them, Windows 8 is already doing plenty of damage. The Bone and everything else is just icing on the whole cluster f cake.

Bundi4049d ago

What sinking ship? Did I imagine the 19 billion Microsoft made last fiscal year?
He's leaving MS in great shape and didn't have to well buildings or retrench 10 000 people to do it. Good job Steve, thanks for the service.

SniperControl4049d ago

What??? 19 billion??? lol

Surface:-
Microsoft announced a $900 million write-off on excess Surface inventory, surpassing the brand's total revenue of $853 million since its October 2012 launch.

Windows 8:-
http://www.zdnet.com/window...

They are in deep dooda, the Xbox brand is the only thing keeping them safe at the moment.

DiRtY4049d ago

@snipercontrol,

you can't be that stupid, can you?
Please tell me you are joking, PLEASE!

GodGinrai4049d ago

@sniper control

I suggest you take a look at MS Stock and sonys..trust me MS are NOT the ones in trouble right now.

SniperControl4049d ago

i'll just post this here.

http://arstechnica.com/info...

Never mentioned Sony did i??

Paranoid fanboys, only want to see want you want to see.

No_Limit4049d ago (Edited 4049d ago )

"They are in deep dooda, the Xbox brand is the only thing keeping them safe at the moment."

Oh we'll oh we'll, look what we have here, a f$&@k!ing comedian. /S

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Anon19744049d ago

Wow. Stock price is seeing a nice spike today on this news, up 7% currently despite the market being flat overall. And Sinofsky, the most likely replacement was booted by Ballmer right after Windows 8's launch. So who the hell's going to take the helm?

This worries me a little from a gaming perspective. Ballmer was the Xbox's biggest proponent when investors were complaining about the Entertainment's division poor return on capital relative to other divisions, and over the years when the calls started to mount to sell the Xbox off. Ballmer was the one that made sure that didn't happen when the pressure was on.

joeorc4049d ago

100% exactly

" Ballmer was the Xbox's biggest proponent when investors were complaining about the Entertainment's division poor return on capital relative to other divisions, and over the years when the calls started to mount to sell the Xbox off. Ballmer was the one that made sure that didn't happen when the pressure was on."

back when it was just in concept, guy's like ED fries, seamus blackley,j allard,robbie bach etc. and other's looked to make inroads into the computer living room entertainment market.

ED Fries of 18 years over @ Microsoft stated why he left, and its not a good sign if the current people in charge do not stand firm in keeping Microsoft a very viable console maker in this part of the market.

the Investor's i think would be very wise to re think scrapping the xbox platform, but with Steve stepping down, they may have an way to force what they want even though Microsoft is paying the Investors on returns. I think it would be to the fault of the investors to ignore the growth Microsoft's exec's who have made the xbox platform a very viable choice for gamer's to choose to purchase for their living room entertainment.

duplissi4049d ago

could be a good thing if it happens though, just depends on if it is spun off into its own company or sold, and to whom.

jackanderson19854049d ago (Edited 4049d ago )

they have the home computer/laptop OS system market dominated, they're making gains (albeit relatively small) in an Android and iOS dominated mobile market, they're regarded as a major player in the games industry (an industry they only entered 2001), MS share price is at one of it's highest in the last 10 years, they're one of the most well known brands in the world.

i think he's going out on top

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Virus2014049d ago

That made your day?
That's sad.

joe904049d ago

You must live a very sad and pathetic life for this to be your happiest moment of today.

Khajiit864049d ago

Pick me MS. I mean how much worse could I do then what they have been doing?

Wikkid6664049d ago (Edited 4049d ago )

Trained CEO that's been in the business for 30 plus years... or a troll on N4G that probably works at McDonalds.

gaelic_laoch4049d ago

Georgeenoob is being headhunted at the mo!

Bundi4049d ago

Not again! I stepped into the twilight zone yet again where Microsoft haven't been reporting profit in the upwards of 4 billion dollars every fiscal quarter for the last 4 years or so. In this zone, they've been bleeding money for 5 years straight.

In the bright side, in ths zone I have a handheld that I won't mention by name and it actually has games.

Kyosuke_Sanada4049d ago (Edited 4049d ago )

About time Game Gear got new releases! :D Sound like a zone I'd love to be in....

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Microsoft Reportedly Spends $1 Billion Annually To Get Third-Party Games On Game Pass

Uncover the spending behind Xbox's Game Pass subscription. Discover how Microsoft invests a billion dollars annually in securing third-party games for the service.

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Obscure_Observer3d ago

Good.

Now that you´re releasing games and making big money from every gaming platform, you should double that amount and give us even more day one third party games!

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You’re delusional beyond belief. Businesses wise it doesn’t make sense and sooner or later they’ll be raising prices again to cover that billion they’re blowing every year.

outsider16242d ago

Lucky for xbox that papa microsoft is rich.

purple1013d ago (Edited 3d ago )

As someone else said earlier today, they are past the growth stage, it’s been stagnent for last 3 years, they are now in the money making stage, prepare to be goosed for as many dollars as possible for the least amount of content. It may not be bad now, (actually it is) but it will be soon (even worse) this year you got hellblade and starfirld and a load of other games that could be bought in bargain bins for about $5-30 and for that you pay them monthly

To add I honestly don’t know how you put up with the barrage of Xbox negativity (which is deserved). I put it down to:

A) you are being paid
B) you may have a problem thinking clearly
C) prefer rooting for the underdog, that’s a legit thing too. English people do it by default

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yeah Aussies also love an underdog as long as that underdog isn't Xbox as they were too of the game with the 360 then lost their minds

Chevalier2d ago

3 straight years of missing Gamepass targets. Some people are just blinded by their own idiocy. Will be interesting to see if COD does anything this fall

CosmicTurtle2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

He is a troll. Designed to stoke people up on here. We know this.

It’s quite funny.

Popsicle2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yet people still allow the troll to derail an entire topic. I don’t understand how moderation allows it.

I literally just skip the comment. This may be the best comment obscure ever made. I don’t know because I didn’t read it. I have read to many thread derailing post from this person to ever devote any time to reading another.

I wish everyone would ignore the trolls so we can have a genuine discussion. Stop feeding it and it will go away. Even just hitting the disagree button feeds it. Thats what it wants. This is the last post I will ever post about obscure because I am feeding them now.

Legit question to Mods. After such a long history of being a troll, how has this poster not been banned?

Profchaos2d ago

Is he though or does he just blindly love Xbox in the same way Sega fans loved the Dreamcast even though it was clearly dead they thought it could be redeemed

Ok yeah he's saracstic and does troll but I enjoy seeing what he comes out with it would be boring here if we never had conflicting opinions

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Are you insane? You want them to double the amount when the Xbox is already struggling and losing money 🤔

Hofstaderman2d ago

Correction....XBOX is already dead.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

"Are you insane? You want them to double the amount when the Xbox is already struggling and losing money"

As long we get the games I couldn´t care less about a trillion dollar company losing money. That´s their business to worry about. I only care about the games.

And "struggling and losing money"? Really?

"Microsoft reports Xbox’s revenue is up 61% in Q4 FY24 thanks to Activision"

https://venturebeat.com/gam...

61% more revenue and BO6 is not even out yet.

MS will make a sh!t ton of money with that game alone in all platforms. So 2 Billion yearly invested in their *core* business is nothing!

So yeah, I want them to double the investments on Gamepass. Period.

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"So yeah, I want them to double the investments on Gamepass. Period."

That ain't going to happen. Just because you want it 😂

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They'll do that, after creating 4 more higher-priced tiers and making the one that currently includes everything only contain games that have been on the market for 4 years.

"Gamepass Ultra to the MAX: Now only $299 per year!"

MrNinosan1d 4h ago

Already $240/year, so we're there within a year, without new tiers.

jznrpg21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

It will be 29.99$ a month eventually 360 a year

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They are trying to get a return on abk and Bethesda they won't double day one we're lucky we are still getting them now that day one has been removed from base tiers

They want to make money not give it away

OlderGamer172d ago

Sorry O_O, I tought you where loosing it, but i now come to the conclusion that you realy lost it.
The coping from you is not on a stellarr level....

Flakegriffin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Homie got 77 dislike and his brain rot will still help him think that he’s right.

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MrDead3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I like how they twist cannibalising game sales into "invests".

No lifetime sales with MS, they'll F-up gaming the same as streaming services have done to the movie industry and it's workforce.

Fishy Fingers3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Out of interest do you think those 3rd parties signing the deal are unhappy with the severence and have a gun to their head?

Bro probably has a PS+ sub and has library full of Epic launcher free games.

TheNamelessOne2d ago

lol

Pretty much. There's a lot of hate on this site for Gamepass, but put games on the different tiers of the PS subscription, and whenever they get that free day one release, it's an entirely different tune. No talk about how this choice is killing devs.

DarXyde2d ago

Do we think they're unhappy?

Umm...YES...?

They literally need to be paid up front to put games on the service. It's become a way to gain a foothold on the platform.

Do you think Atlus would launch on Game Pass otherwise?

MrDead2d ago

"Out of interest do you think those 3rd parties signing the deal are unhappy with the severence and have a gun to their head?"

I think you mean severance... and I've noticed you don't know what it means either, MS aren't firing the third-parties they're purchasing from.

"Bro probably has a PS+ sub and has library full of Epic launcher free games."

I'm not a console gamer, but yes I do have Epic with a library full of free games... but guess what Epic rotating free games every week doesn't do. It doesn't destroy lifetime sales and cut workers out of residuals. Then you bring up PS+ a service that also doesn't destroy lifetime sales as their model allows for new releases to earn.

DivineHand1252d ago

There are pros and cons to everything. Streaming services like Netflix is no different than cable tv except it is on demand. Services like Netflix has made it so that more studios can get a share in the profit where they can reach more consumers worldwide compared to the old days where the masses will only watch a few new titles per month.

The only negative about streaming services is that it no longer makes any sense to sell DVDs and Blu-rays though it can be argued that those persons may have moved on to building digital libraries for the sake of convenience.

The reason Xbox is doing so poorly is because they are not doing enough to be competitive. Their output of AA and AAA exclusive titles are extremely low compared to the competition and they haven't had a game of the year nominee in years.

Releasing their games the same date on PC is also hurting their console and it would have been more strategic for them to delay those releases by a year similar to what Sony does to maximize profits.

Gamepass alone is not to blame for Xbox's current position because it can be argued that if the service didn't exist and they had the same gaming output as they have now, they would be in an even worst spot.

MrDead2d ago

"Streaming services like Netflix is no different than cable tv except it is on demand."

It's nothing like cable. My comment isn't a guess lifetime sale of films has shrunk to a point it's almost gone and so has the revenue it generated, that is money from competing TV networks, cable/satellite and physical media sales.

Lack of revenue transparency with streaming has meant workers job security and pay has massively diminished, earnings from residuals is almost gone for example the writer for Squid Games because of streaming gets no royalties despite series earning $900 million for Netflix, before streaming he would have royalties form lifetime sales.
Or another example Willow the series was pulled and is no longer watchable here's why: “Willow” was one of nearly 50 titles that Disney+ pulled from its streaming library in May. Other titles included the series “The Mysterious Benedict Society” and the feature film “The One and Only Ivan.” Disney CFO Christine McCarthy explained that Disney was expecting to take a write-down in the June quarter of $1.5 billion-$1.8 billion by removing content from its streaming platforms. By writing down the value of the content assets, Disney can remove that from its balance sheet and reduce its tax bill." Also when you pull a show you no longer need to pay residuals to the workers.

Have you also noticed the drop in quality on sfx or thought some older films look so much better then they do now? This is because the industry now relies on cheap labour for sfx outsourcing abroad, more green screen instead of location shooting and a lot less real extras bring life to a scene.

Streaming in gaming is going to be far worse as we've seen with MS consolidating a massive part of the industry to try and make the service sustainable, lifetime sales being cannibalised by gamespass and a work force that has no unions like SAG is already paying the price.

All streaming does is remove income transparency, cuts the workers from the money and sets flat rates and removes consumer ownership... but CEO's and shareholders will still be ok as they benefit from the industry consolidation.

Huey_My_D_Long2d ago

MrDead is absolutely on fire with the post.

Nothing else I have to add other than that.

DivineHand1252d ago

@MrDead like I said pros and cons. Some of those issues can alleviated with alleviated with regulatory intervention to give more transparency to the industry but unlikely anytime soon with all the lobbying going on.

The issue with the squid game's writer can be attributed to the terms and conditions he agreed to. It happens often in business as no one really knows how popular something will be until you catch that lightning in a bottle. I remember reading about how Nintendo hardly made anything off Pokemon Go dispite Niantic making Billions.

I don't blame streaming services for studios finding was to reduce the cost of making films. That stuff would have happened regardless because of the greed of these corporations. We see that same cost reduction happening in every industry from food to Aerospace.

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CrimsonGuardVII2d ago

@badz148 its not, it just straight lied.

gold_drake2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

we know this, we have known this since last year.

this is not new or news.

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Report: Microsoft Cutting 650 More Jobs From Gaming Division Per Phil Spencer's Letter to Employees

Phil Spencer has sent a letter out to employees informing them that 650 jobs would be cut from Microsoft's gaming division.

VenomUK11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

‘Good guy Phil’?

The truth likely is that the decision was not his to make and is possibly a direct consequence of cutting costs following the ABK deal.

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

Lol good guy Phil lmfao crazy

DodoDojo11d ago

Would be nice if he'd mail one of those letters to himself.

RhinoGamer8811d ago

Cut costs -> no bonus, stock options, raises for Phil and his leadership team.

Lightning7711d ago

"Good guy Phil" is comical. You have to bleed green to see that. I'm only a matter of time until MS, that's right MS even in ages themselves from the industry.

Sad, people and even sadder and pathetic company.

fr0sty11d ago

If they keep this up, they won't even be able to go third party anymore after they stop making Xbox hardware.

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bionicstar11d ago

game devs aren't being let go.

“As part of aligning our post-acquisition team structure and managing our business, we have made the decision to eliminate approximately 650 roles across Microsoft Gaming—mostly corporate and supporting functions—to organize our business for long term success.”

darthv7211d ago

getting rid of some suits... now this news isnt so bad. Too many suits makes all the wrong decisions, esp the top dogs.

Michiel198911d ago

@darth they arent suits, they are people that work in administration, customer support and that kinda stuff

ZacultronTheFirst11d ago

Probably people from much needed Marketing department.

Nacho_Z11d ago

It doesn't make it any better if they aren't devs being fired.

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Petebloodyonion11d ago

The original story is from IGN as they are the ones who got the memo.
https://www.ign.com/article...

Still sucks!

badboyz0911d ago

The day we hear that Xbox is no more is vastly approaching.

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Obscure_Observer11d ago

"The day we hear that Xbox is no more is vastly approaching."

Not sure Sony is doing any better with all that money lost on GaaS and all that worldwide backlash regarding the Pro.

1Victor11d ago

@obscured: “ Not sure Sony is doing any better with all that money lost on GaaS and all that worldwide backlash regarding the Pro.”
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Welcome back we missed you said no one 🤣

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I don’t remember Sony cutting over 1900 employees then Less than 7 months later get a leak for another 600 to be on the chopping board but hey let’s equate that to a few people not been happy about a mid gen system refresh price 🤦🏿.

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1Victor11d ago

@obscured: “
They also casually forget that Sony have been laying off thousands of people too”
Yeeesh I got a better help discount code for you

BehindTheRows11d ago

Uh, thr Pro "backlash" is hardly something that's going to tank their business. Unless you've been living under a rock, there's no question that Xbox is in the gutter.

Quit pivoting to Sony because you don't like the subject matter. Their game division isn't in the toilet.

DodoDojo11d ago

Well Sony isn't selling more copies of their games on a rival system yet so they must be doing alright.

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Mr_cheese10d ago

@obscure

Saves some straws for the rest of us will you

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343_Guilty_Spark10d ago

Vastly approaching is a weird phrase… vastly is typically used to convey the degree of some size or length or time.

Vastly approaching makes no sense.

You mean rapidly approaching.

MrDead11d ago

A combined $80 billion spent on consolidating a massive part of the industry, thousands fired all to line the pockets of the already wealthy and turn the gaming industry into a rental service.

FU MS.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

MS is a publicly traded company. If you have a 401K you yourself might own MS stocks.
I'm definitely not a MS fan, but CEOs need to keep returns high to keep their jobs if nothing else. They don't get to transfer the salaries to their accounts.
I blame MS for failed strategies, poor execution, lack of vision, etc.
These layoffs are just the result of those things.

MrDead11d ago

That's the weakest excuse for a giant monopoly I've ever seen... also companies like MS are more likely to damage people's 401k through monopolistic practices.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

"FU MS."

I love how you act all enraged and bully when it´s MS firing people.

"It´s all about the workers" at least they´re Sony´s employees, right? If they´re Sony they can go f* themselves right? It´s all justified and the blame lies elsewhere on some widespread industry problem, right? Right?

We been seeing some of Sony recent bs moves and you know what´s coming, right?

I´m expecting you to disappear the same way you do every time Sony layoff hundreds of people or get a whole studio shut down.

You´ll do anything to avoid and hold them accountable. But that's OK. You´are not biased, right?

1Victor11d ago

@obscured: “ "It´s all about the workers" at least they´re Sony´s employees, right? If they´re Sony they can go f* themselves right? It´s all justified and the blame lies elsewhere on some widespread industry problem, right? Right?”

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Well Sony didn’t overreached and spend over 80 BILLION$ to acquire mayor 3rd party game developers and one MAYOR publisher the owner of the BIGGEST FPS just hoping to keeping it exclusive to their system and now having to fire thousands of employees to valance their books one more quarter.
Now Microsoft is beginning and going to kiss Sony dark ring and publish their “first party games “ on PlayStation. Regardless of who it is it’s wrong to do an acquisition and then fire people.
I applaud Microsoft for at least giving them a severance package and assistance getting a new job 👍👍.

MrDead11d ago

Chill out kid... also why bring up Sony, have they just spent 80 billion to consolidate a massive part of the industry to the detriment of thousands of workers?

MS lines their pockets whilst firing thousands, such a shame you support this.

Chevalier10d ago

Gee someone here said Xbox would NEVER release 1st party games on Playstation or competing platforms again?! Never tired to see you eat crow again.

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OlderGamer1710d ago

But but Sony bad...thats the normal damagecontroll from O_O. Dude its time to sing another song, this one is sounding like a broken record......

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LG_Fox_Brazil11d ago

Not sure about the rest of the world, but here in Brazil we have a say that goes like this:

'May the last one to leave please turn off the lights'

What the heck is MS even doing right now?

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Something Feels Off About Indiana Jones and the Great Circle

Shaz from GL: “Amidst recent concerns surrounding Xbox, Phil and Co. need a win. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if Indiana Jones and the Great Circle will be it.”

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TwoPicklesGood16d ago

Looks good to me and I’m glad it’s coming to ps5

VenomUK14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

When it comes to video game previews I’m of the opinion that journalists should maintain a position of CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM. Yes, note and share concerns about the game with readers but maintain a restrained optimistic stance until actually having reviewed it so that any negativity is based on the game’s quality and not the author’s prejudices.

Here the author writes “ I’m going to continue to keep my cynicisms intact, less so because of my trust in MachineGames and more so due to the dumpster fire that continues to be modern-day Xbox.” This example illustrates the need to follow this guidance.

DefenderOfDoom215d ago

Not worried about facial animations , but I do hope the gameplay is fun . Most definitely I will purchase this on PS5, if the gameplay is fun .

BaughJaughs15d ago

nice hit piece. I notice the writer didn't mention any of the journalists / creators who had good things to say. From what i hear, it has riddick: escape from butcher bay in its DNA. To me that sounds like something to be Optimistic about rather than pessimistic.

ChasterMies15d ago

It’s odd to have a first person perspective for an adventure game with stealth and brawling. But’s not without precedent. Wolfenstein: New Order and Wolfenstein: New Colossus had a lot of adventure game elements. They were in the league of the greatest games ever, but they were both fun games. Indy looks fun too.

YourMommySpoils15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Yes, Indy looks like Todd Howard. Something feels way too off.

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