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Microsoft Exec Explains Why Xbox One is Delayed in Denmark

Microsoft recently announced that Xbox One will arrive only in 13 countries in November 2013 (as earlier promised 21). Microsoft PR Spokeperson, "Jesper Green Frost)" has revealed why Xbox One has been delayed in Europe.

Jesper Green Frost stated that problems with the chips to the console, extra cache memory, combined GPU / CPU and others are not the reason for Xbox One delay in Europe.

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ShugaCane4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

"He further addded that people should wait for the Xbox One, because the PS4 is only a more powerfull PS3, while the Xbox One is a whole new thing, which brings an entire entertainment system into your home."

Extremely stupid argumentation, especially when the X1 has so far proven to be an accumulation of bad decisions. That 'whole new' thing you presented a few months ago was met with a lot of praise, huh ? This is gaming we're talkin about. People are asking for a gaming console first, not an entertainment hub. At least not as a priority.

iamnsuperman4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

Well the quote is really
""I think quite clear you have to wait because Xbox is the only eighth-generation console. A Playstation 4 is, and I am sorry to say, but this is all in my eyes, it's just a stronger Playstation 3 Where I seem to Xbox One brings a whole different paradigm into the console world. Namely entire entertainment system. "

They need to stop doing this. People who buy at launch are predominately gamers. It is hard to take Microsoft approach (and this quote) seriously. You can have the multimedia capabilities but don't shoot yourself in the foot when it comes to gaming. You need to show a gaming focus (as we are the ones who buy first and pre-order the damn thing) and statements like this doesn't help. Us buying at launch has a knock on effect down the road for the rest of the market especially when these multimedia abilities are being seen in TVs as we speak.

Abash4320d ago

In other words, Microsoft's mudslinging really translates them to saying this...

"Damn, we wish Xbox One had the same hype as the PS4"

us_army4320d ago

I couldnt agree more.... Launch purchasers are gamers through and through, and are interested in Hardcore gaming, not jumping around on a camera, or plugging a cable box (which you pay your provider for) into your Xbox, which you pay for Xbox Live, plus you pay for your TV service.... Im sorry, I'll stick to the games.

xHeavYx4320d ago

*Puts on latex gloves*
Ok M$, show me where it hurts

Jdoki4320d ago

Slightly off topic...

Have MS stated how the XB1 will work outside of the US for TV services?

The TV landscape is very different in the UK. US may be their biggest market, but Europe is close behind. I can't see how they will cater to Europe for this 'whole different paradigm' thing.

So far all I've seen is stuff that is very much geared toward the US. Cable for one, but also the links in to sports that are very US-centric. Also, have MS not realised that we're seeing a huge shift to TV on demand rather than scheduled delivery.

nukeitall4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

So how has this entertainment focus, changed video games for the core for the worse?

All I'm seeing is major features related to gaming, and some of the best games for any console.

Do you just have problems because instead of calling it a videogme console, you will have to refer to it as an entertainment console?

It seems odd to me that people are complaining about extra ability. If you wanted the best games hardware could buy, it would be PC and none of this console BS would matter.

gaffyh4320d ago

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that compliance and testing issues for electronics is done EU-wide? So if the console can release in France, it should be able to release in Denmark. If that is the case, it yet again proves that the yield issues are true because they are denying it so strongly and trying to make it out as there is no issue. It is also a little worrying if that is the case, as to whether or not it will affect failure rates on the Xbone in the countries it is launching in.

Second thing, MS is starting to become the same as they were early on on PS3 cycle, with Aaron Greenburg spouting some nonsense constantly. They really need to STFU about the competition, they shouldn't even mention PS3 or PS4, because that in itself is advertising the system.

malokevi4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

Yeah its dumb... unless you're actually excited about the prospect of an all-in-one entertainment box.

For me, the XB1 offers everything that I have been dreaming of for the past 8 years while my X360/PS3 have been tripping over themselves. And more.

My cousin is making the switch from Xbox to Playstation in the next generation. He's not the smartest penny in the fountain, but his reason is good.

He told me he wants a gaming console, and that's it. He doesn't want multimedia, doesn't want bells and whistles, doesn't want voice/motion controls. He wants a console that he can buy every iteration of COD and NHL, and play them. Thats pretty much it.

I almost put up the argument: well... PS4 isn't exactly an exclusively games-oriented console... but I held my tong. For 100 dollars less, with no motion controls, for mainstream/casual games... it might as well be a gaming-only console. He's making the right decision. Why should I interject and try to persuade him towards the Xbox by talking about a bunch of crap that he doesn't care about?

For me, I want everything and the kitchen sink. Everything the Xbox is delivering looks perfect to me. From games to music to movies/TV and social media... I use it all. But that isn't for everyone.

So, I'll let him make his own choices, and then I'll lord it over him when we walk into my gaming space and the Box is already setting up our game before we even hit the couch because it see's my face and hears my voice, and then does the same thing for his face and voice :D

And then hopefully when it picks up on how sad he is, my Xbox will go "oh, you don't seem too happy, here's some cheery music to lighten up the mood!"

minimur124320d ago

I prefer PS, yeah. but I'll admit, the X1 has some interesting features. But my TV box still uses scart, so that feature is useless to me, and 'snapping' that seems cool but it's behind a paywall. as is internet explorer.
thats disgusting
how can a free service be paid for? Idont get it.

maybe becasue it's free on PS, but I find it amazing that if I have one, I'll need to pay to use skype. pay to use the internet, on top of my internet bill already. why?
I blog and I've opinionated it here:
http://wololo.net/2013/08/1...

DragonKnight4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

@nukeitall: Short answer is it hasn't. But the issue at hand is that early adopters are first and foremost gamers. History proves this. However Microsoft aren't marketing their product towards gamers with this "it's an all-in-one entertainment hub" slogan. They are marketing it to the casual audience who RARELY are the early adopters.

To top it off, in terms of gaming the Xbox One can easily also be categorized as just a powered up 360.

But to think that a Microsoft exec would say anything but praise for their product is naive of anyone.

@malokevi: "well... PS4 isn't exactly an exclusively games-oriented console... but I held my tong. For 100 dollars less, with no motion controls, for mainstream/casual games... it might as well be a gaming-only console."

I'm sorry, what? Can you repeat that? Did you just say that the PS4 is for mainstream/casual games or am I misunderstanding you? Also, since when were motion controls an important, standard feature? They've never been. Even with the Xbox One including Kinect in every kit it's not a standard feature because most likely won't use it.

FamilyGuy4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

The PS4 is also an all in one entertainment device. Just because they aren't placing a heavy focus on its non-gaming aspects like MS is doing doesn't mean it's just for games.

Every time I hear or read this it just sounds ridiculous.

When the PS3 was first announced and advertised people complained about THEM calling it a multimedia entertainment console. From the start it played Blu-ray movies and it had a HDD standard in every model that allowed you to save your own video files, music and photos directly to it. It had a web browser, read media from SD cards, usb drives, burned data disc, etc, had an option to install a Linux based OS and even had the ability to hook up a printer and print whatever.
People didn't like the non-gaming aspects being advertised.

Sony still has non-gaming, multimedia, entertainment based features for the PS4 that they just aren't talking about yet. They're focusing on gaming because gamers will be the first to buy their system.

This guy, and anyone else having the assumption that the PS4 will only be for playing games is just wrong. They've already spoken lightly on the other aspects and we'll be hearing more about them soon.

"just a more powerful PS3"
Uh, yeah, that's what we want, a more powerful gaming console that can do more! PS4 is all that while still not cramming features we might not want down our throats and all at a lower price.

devwan4320d ago

" I am sorry to say, but this is all in my eyes, it's just a stronger Playstation 3"

Looks like Mr Frost didn't get the memos. Nobody from microsoft needs to be downtalking the competition in any way, shape of form, they are supposed to be talking their own hardware up but not at the expense of others. Just not classy and leaves a bad taste after recent events.

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ABeastNamedTariq4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

I literally laughed out loud when I read that. I find it funny that people think PS won't have just about the same entertainment features and apps. As if they don't already?

MS markets their machine as an all-in-one, and now some people believe that it's the only all-in-one system. No, they're acting like they're the only one.

It basically comes down to which UI you like using better to access your apps.

Still, it's supposed to be a gaming console first and foremost. Save most of the entertainment talk for Xmas when you're marketing to the families.

-Foxtrot4320d ago

Sony has even said entertainment stuff will be added to the PS4 in the future, I mean we already have that stuff about Sony and Viacom so it's not like they won't add entertainment things for the console. Sony just wants to focus on what matters at the minute and that's games.

Microsoft honestly believes the PS4 just an upgraded PS3...wow...just wow.

Xsilvermist4320d ago

Lol Microsoft that same more powerful ps3 made you guys copy everything they did to save your asses, and go back on ur so called future of gaming like not actually owning ur own games, but then its also even more powerful than the Xone so I'm lost. they need to be quiet because Sony will hit hard tomorrow at gamescom.

Thegamer414320d ago

Everyone keeps saying the PS4 is just an upgraded PS3 since it does not come with something like Kinect, does that mean, last gen, the 360 and PS3 were the same console?
Its the games that define the console not the peripherals included that add nothing new to gaming.

Mystogan4320d ago

" the 360 and PS3 were the same console?"

They actually were. just different games and policies.

Thegamer414320d ago

@Mystogan

That's my point, the games are what separated them apart, and it will be the same this gen.

ShwankyShpanky4320d ago

Didn't you know? The NES and the Master System were the same console. The SNES and the Genesis were the same console. The Saturn and the PlayStation were the same console.

Crap like this: "I think quite clear you have to wait because Xbox is the only eighth-generation console" is pathetic. I guess we should really be calling it a fourth-gen console.

Cartridge based: gen 1
Disc based: gen 2
Online/HD: gen 3
TV/Kinect: gen 4

rainslacker4320d ago

Sometimes a feature can define a console. The Wii is an excellent example. Virtual Boy. ummm...sure there are others.

However, this isn't the case here because outside of Kinect games, which are still unproven to be that appealing to the hardcore, the added "features" really have nothing to do with gaming, or how we experience those games.

I would say this is somewhat true of Sony's PS4 as well. The biggest announced "feature" is more in how we interact with others while gaming, and not really about defining game play on the console as a whole...although they could interact nicely for the social types out there.

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pompombrum4320d ago

Bad mouthing their competitors.. Microsoft being as classy as ever I see. They should be glad Sony doesn't resort to such low tactics otherwise they'd need to do a 180 on that as well.

Jdoki4320d ago

Didn't you watch the Sony E3 show?

If that wasn't the biggest dig at a competitor since the 'Sega Do What NintenDon't' adverts I dunno what is! :)

(No criticising the approach of Sony - I think for the most part MS are much more divisive in their bad mouthing - but there are no saints in this industry)

pompombrum4320d ago

Sony never once directly referenced the Xbox One as far as I'm aware, at least not negatively. The closest they came was their sharing games video.

Blaze9294320d ago

lol grow up. I can't even be bothered to point out the hypocrisy in this right now.

FamilyGuy4320d ago

Sony never says/said Microsoft/Xbox/Xbox one/360, they only say things like;
"We're doing this"
"We won't be doing that"
"Our console is the only place for..."
"Here's how you do this on our system"

Mircosoft employees come out saying "Don't buy a PS4, our system is better blah blah blah"

Do you guys see the difference?

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GraveLord4320d ago

He's kinda being a hypocrite.

Xbox 360 ---> XBox One
Kinect ---> Kinect 2.0

You can't claim PS4 is just a more powerful PS3 and ignore then praise the Xbox One as some unique innovative platform....

PS4 is just as much an entertainment system as the Xbox One.

Thatguy-3104320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

Lol everything that made the xbox one new was taken away with all the 180 spins. Now Xbox one is just a stronger 360 isn't?

Magicite4320d ago

MS exec saying that people shouldnt buy PS4 but wait for XBO. Oh the irony..

Mounce4320d ago

Another PR that should be fired and isn't giving Microsoft and their console division a good name by sounding so incredibly ignorant and immature.

Being Conceited has limitations, hopefully even for Microsoft.

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WeAreLegion4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

I fail to see why anyone would think the Xbox One is any more of an entertainment package than the PS4.

You can watch cable through it?!? My Wii U does that already. I never use it. Nobody ever uses it. It's a waste of time.

"He further addded that people should wait for the Xbox One, because the PS4 is only a more powerful PS3, while the Xbox One is a whole new thing, which brings an entire entertainment system into your home."

Televisions already have Netflix, Hulu, Pandora, Spotify, etc. The PS3/360 also have most of these apps. What do they mean "entire entertainment system"? We've had "entire entertainment systems" for years.

rainslacker4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

This past Christmas, I looked into getting a PS3 for my dad for all that media stuff. He wanted to have a media server, and use netflix, etc. I ended up buying him a $90 Sony Blu-Ray player and it does everything a PS3/360, and likely a PS4/X1(sans remote control features) can do, a few exceptions of course. It even has a XMB type interface, although a pretty crappy youtube app, and a useless browser.

People buy these things for games mostly. If people want Netflix, Media Server client, or those other features, they'd buy a cheaper alternative, or go with the device that doesn't put all those features behind a secondary pay wall.

MS is playing the wrong card trying to appeal to the wrong people. They're late to the party with most of this stuff...which is pretty typical of their business model overall.

SniperControl4320d ago

MS remind me more & more of a slimy salesman on a garage forecourt desperate to get a sale.
They will say and do anything to get one over on the other sales people i.e Sony.

Unfortunately for MS, most gamers know the crack and wont listen to BS from some PR flunky.

gaelic_laoch4320d ago

Say M$ and I get a vision of Saul Goodman in my head!

SniperControl4320d ago

LOL

i was thinking more of this guy, Gil Gunderson from the Simpsons.

http://images2.wikia.nocook...

gaelic_laoch4320d ago

@ SniperControl

If your talking Simpsons then I see Don Mattrick as the MonoRail guy selling the Xbone to the Fanboys!

Mikelarry4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

all i read was excuses this, crappy explanation that. also when will MS learn bad mouthing before a press conference only to fall face flat after and then going 180

gaelic_laoch4320d ago

M$ tried to make the Xbone an all in one Frankenconsole! But like all monsters it turned on its maker!

devwan4320d ago

Have to say, looking through your posts you have some of the funniest one and two line comments on here, even if you don't always add to the conversation :)

As for article, Jesper Frost is going to be in trouble if he continues directly putting down the competition, it's not policy and not what he needs to be saying in delicate times - anything and everything will be reported and written about as it was here and it's only going to do microsoft more harm in the long run.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain16d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198116d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK15d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts15d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK15d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT18d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits18d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel118d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic18d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN17d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel117d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica18d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14917d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga17d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania18d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts18d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7718d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box18d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7718d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts18d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7718d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb17d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow18d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box18d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor18d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate9125d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa7825d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer25d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio25d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate9125d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis24d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX25d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn25d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX25d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto25d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog25d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

**btw, I'm talking about street food vendors, just in case there's any confusion!

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Lightning7725d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio25d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning7725d ago (Edited 25d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx25d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning7725d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole25d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio24d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs25d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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