Actually if i was gonna pick up a XBone it would be nice to hear actual facts about the system instead of all these speculations & guesses.
On Sony side they have Mark Cerny going around talking about everything one needs to know about the PS4. He is making appearances all over the place.
If Microsoft is smart (& they should be) someone like Major Nelson or Phil Spence should be going around doing the same thing. There are WAY too many questions about Xbone & their games. It just shows how disorganized the company is at right now after the 'sh*tstorm' & it is not something a company should do when a new platform is coming out.
Like this news with Forza. What the heck is going on & what does one need to know when they play this game. This news should've been the news that was posted instead of the 'false' one.
I was just reading an article a day ago on here with ps fans saying a day one update/patch is terrible.
I bet driveclub will be the worst of all launch games. Game doesn't even look slightly good. Looks like a game I'll buy to give away as a present
@iz. MS is fucking with you idiots (speaking about Sony fans in general, not you iz). They know how much Sony fans like to brag and act like fools on the internet. They give you gas for your flame, then pour water on it and have yall look stüp.
"They know how much Sony fans like to brag and act like fools on the internet. They give you gas for your flame, then pour water on it and have yall look stüp"
Wow...so much denial
MS didn't do all this (from the DRM thing to this, to mandatory Kinect etc) to make people look stupid they did it because they f***** up, they don't give a crap about us and they are disorganized.
Seriously it doesn't matter what they do, you guys always find a way to spin it.
Mark Cerny cannot and does not speak for every ps4 developer so lets stop trying to crown him as the be all and end all of all information please. Yes he's been everywhere talking a whole bunch. . .a whole lotta bunch, but mostly it is on the ps4 itself and Knack. I wouldn't wanna hear Phil or Hyrb explain to me about Forza or Ryse or Project Spark because that info would be very diluted if not coming from the source.
As for what you say about The One, at this moment, what exactly is "unknown" about it that you feel Phil should be talking about?
@izumo_lee: I would think MS PR people blew most if not all of the credibility in promoting/defending policies at E3 which turned out not to be their actual policies. They certainly aren't doing any better in instances like these.
@georgeenoob: Any chance you could stop wasting your one bubble on furthering a stance which does nothing for gaming community than divide it?
@GameCents: But he is the man, the key developer, responsible for the PS4. If anyone from Sony is qualified to talk about it, its him.
Yo Nutz, check me out. MS can take out or add features to their systems in a heartbeat. They're able to take DRM out with an update. They can now add w.e they want with a simple update. In the future when new features are available, like in 2014/15 when Xbox owners are using illumiroom and Kinect, ps fans will still be saying they're glad Sony didnt include a camera like the sheep you guys are. Now let me as you this Balls, can Sony change their system dramatically like MS didnt in an instant with an update? Neverthat. With a great OS you don't need an overwhelmingly powerful system like Sony is releasing. They're just compensating for the missing features and playing to fanboys. I know preorders are looking good now, but Sony better hope their fans remain blind because the ps4 will be a tough cookie to sell in the coming months. I hope you guys believe in cerny. He looks like the average ps fanboy. Talks like he has a stick up his ass and spew bs while you guys eat it up. Call me in denial all you want.. I'll just sit back and enjoy the show
@Godmars please understand what I'm saying here, Mark Cerny SHOULD be talking about PS4 and Knack because there is no better person to do so. However, lee is saying ONE person from the X1 camp should be talking about X1 and all games including Forza. To which I am saying does not make sense since on the ps4 side Mark only speaks of Knack and not KZ or inFAMOUS or Drive Club. Do you understand? I don't want to hear about all ps4 games from Mark, I want to hear from GG, Sucker Punch, Evolution, Santa Monica about their games because they know their games best. The same way I don't wanna hear Phil or Hyrb or even the lead X1 architect talking about Forza 5. That's Dan Greenwalt, job and he's doing it here.
As far as your comment about their PR losing credibility for defending policies that are now obsolete, did you really think before making that statement? At the time, were those said policies not the correct ones? Did you want PR reps to defend policies that were not at the time in place? Please, just use your brain, I know it is very tempting to put down MS at every opportunity but at least do so with some intelligence so that the rest of us can debate with you without feeling like we are talking to a 13 year old.
"With a great OS you don't need an overwhelmingly powerful system like Sony is releasing. They're just compensating for the missing features and playing to fanboys."
What a baby! So much immaturity and lack of information in your comments. Good thing you only have two bubbles, pretty soon one.
@izumo_lee
Just in case you haven't notice, every time some information comes out about the XBone, it is always bad news, they keep lying to the public. So I think they are doing what is best for them and that is to keep quiet because if they went deep into detail it wod only make things worst for them. The XBone has to be the worst pre-release mess ever in console history. So much lying, manipulation, corporation bs and costumer-screwing.....Microsof t is disgusting!
jesus christ every xb1 thread is just a fantard fest. wtf are you sony roaches everywhere? did you get lost in of the thousand "mark cerney i love you blogs" ffs
I will agree with 'izumo_lee'. The Xbox division has had key players who were passionate about the Xbox brand replaced with a bunch of corporate types, who do not pay much interest on the details that would interest gamers. They seem to just gloss over stuff and the go: "Okay, covered". If the corporate heads aren't too into system specs and game details, they should had the mic over to designers and developers to talk about what was actually done with the system and games.
@Izumo - The problem with MS is that there own execs no nothing about their own system, and on top of that, they aren't experienced enough technically to now what they're talking about. See post MS conference and E3 interviews, where none of them had a clue.
On the other hand, Sony has confirmed that Cerny was responsible for the PS4, and as he is a developer, he actually does know what he's saying.
On topic - If true, that's great, but the system itself still needs a day one update to get rid of the restrictive DRM, so it's the same thing. Wasn't a major issue to begin with anyway.
First ms comes out and says you have to download now they say you don't. Well unless you want the full game experience guess you Xbox fans missed that. Sony lets you download for free part a watered down version of drive club and buy the rest if you like it. MS makes you buy an incomplete game and download the rest of you want to finish the game.
Still it's kinda of an excuse to cover the fact that the game will not be finished in time. So without this additional content does that mean one can't finish the career mode or will they just have a somewhat gimped experience i wonder?
No, it's only the beginning of a bad precedent for the so-called "next gen". Hell, I just found out the PS+ version of DriveClub strips out the single player ALTOGETHER!!!
"the PlayStation Plus version will be missing some optional premium extras like cars and tracks; a single-player mode; and a lack of off-roading tracks."
yewles1 - Thats only because the PS+ DriveClub is free. Thats why it's stripped of some things, I mean they aren't going to give you the entire game for free.
Below - Yeah but I'm guessing you can actually download the full retail version, the free one is to give people a taste of the game. It's basicaly an upgraded demo.
@yewles1 And most PS+ games that you get for free have been out for a bit. This is a launch day title...
To compare it to MS, Project spark is releasing the creation tools for free. Obviously you'll be able to buy the full version or DLC to go with it, but that would mean you're getting "a game with content that is stripped compared to the retail version at launch".
@Yewles, , probably because its a launch game? As if they will give you straight up the full game when its just come out. Every other ps+ game in its history have come out months after.
Well, there have been some games that were only partially made free on PS+. An example is Starhawk, where only the single-player was made free (or was it the multiplayer? I forget)
Another example would be Uncharted3, which was also single-player only on PS+. You can play the F2P multiplayer version, but it's missing a few features that actual owners get.
But I do agree with you that it is a bad precedent. In DriveClub's case, they're better off just calling it as a demo rather than trying to pass it off as a free title.
"But downloadable cars and tracks are required to finish the game's career mode..."
apparently, you CAN'T finish the game without downloading all those extra stuff. so...basically, they are holding off on those contents by not putting it on disc.
nice ot hear
Sure sounds great. Basically saying you dont need to connect to start the race but you better log on if you ever want to cross that finish line.
all about sweeping under the rug.
So you're cockblocked from the rest of single player w/o DLC... 8th gen SUCKS!!!