OPM: From the moment the curtain went up on Guerrilla Games’ new shooter during February’s PS4 reveal, Killzone: Shadow Fall wasn’t just going to be exciting in its own right as an eye-wateringly high-fidelity episode in the shooter series: it was also our first look at the future of FPS gaming.
Push Square writes: "Following a round of layoffs in October last year, a new report by Korean publication MTN reveals that the aforementioned Project H has been cancelled as part of a feasibility review. Staff will now apparently be transferred to a different project."
Just incase people miss it. This ain't the one GG was working on.
I don't like seeing games cancelled. Considering hard work from plenty of people and planety of money spent on it. But I'm glad Sony are seemingly looking at this live service plan and taking measures. They don't want another concord. Really hoping this means they have less focus on Live service now.
Wait, there is/was two different Horizon live-service projects?
"It’s important to note that this game is not to be confused with a separate online multiplayer version of Horizon, confirmed to be in development at series creator Guerrilla. That game, as far as we understand, still very much remains in production for now."
I though GG was working on Horizon 3 and the live-service was being handled by NCSoft?
edit: The comment section under the PushSquare article is pretty interesting.
"The comment section under the PushSquare article is pretty interesting. "
Yeah the same couple of asshats who are trying to defend GaaS games.
get2sammyb dosen't have a clue.
Horizon Zero Dawn sold brilliantly for Sony, but Shuhei Yoshida revealed what we all suspected , the second game didn’t sell so well. Sony has got it in its head that it could be its very own Star Wars franchise - but it’s misjudged the demand as the majority of people who’ve played the games don’t love them. Thank God it’s cancelled the MMO because I could see this being an Ubisoft Skull & Bones level disaster.
Thing is sony is now rethinking their strategy that means studios won't release a game for a long time now
Bend and blue point will need 3-5 years for their next release so basically this while generation absolutely nothing bedies 1 remake
Ghost of Yotei and Wolverine would be the 2 big releases within 1.5 years. And maybe Intergalactic?
And hopefully, Marathon doesn't get cancelled and whatever Housemarque's up to, releases within the 2 years window.
And there's Fairgame$ and GG's Fortnite-esque Horizon co-op game as well (found about it just now, apparently it was leaked as well, 2 years back).
I hope they just let bend make days gone sequel and have BP remake a game just to regain their confidence
@venom the game still sold well, 8.5 mill in a year, if you remember the leaks, it showed that sales tanked after they put it into ps plus, had nothing to do with the ips popularity.
I am not much of a supporter of leaks,
But seeing these projects getting cancelled, and with so many people spent time working on these AAA projects, I do hope atleast some of the alpha/beta gameplay clips gets shared/leaked, so atleast we get to know what we may have missed/avoided.
Again, not much of a supporter of leaks, but we did get to see a finished gameplay promotional trailer of the Spider-Man: The Great Web live-service game. And imho, after seeing the trailer, that could've been the better Sony 1st party live-service game and had potential.
There should be more leaks from more studios and developers.
Greedy corporations like Sony, like Microsoft, who boast about their profits ("most profitable generation" for Sony) while cutting projects/jobs, deserve to be exposed for the years of developers' lives and careers being absolutely wasted with nothing to show for it.
Maybe if someone at Guerrilla can leak this stylized Horizon GaaS, our feedback can kill that off before Sony invests even more into a project no one wants.
Well much of that GG Horizon GaaS has been leaked actually :
https://twistedvoxel.com/ho...
Dont know if there was more .... but would love to see the now cancelled NCSoft's version as well.
There are no such thing as "Greedy corporations", all corporations want maximum profit.
The Spider-Man LS game could of been a potential hit. I just dont understand. Why cancel Twisted Metal Spider man etc for something like a Concord? I Know dead horse but it's beyond baffling at these decisions especially Twisted Metal. That game has actual LS written all over it, in good way.
Same here .... why cancel Twisted Metal and Spider Man but keep others?
I would even prefer a Motorstorm or SOCOM live service game ... over a God of War LS.
I have been wanting a KillZone with Battlefield style maps and destruction. I think that suits KillZone very well and is a part of the shooter market we are missing.
There has only been 2 Horizon games. They have both been pretty good. And as far as we know there is only one left.
Horizon Zero Dawn: 2017
Horizon Call of the Mountain
Initial release date: February 22, 2023
Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores
Initial release date: April 19, 2023
Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition
Initial release date: October 6, 2023
Lego Horizon Adventures
Initial release date: November 14, 2024
Horizon forbidden West TV show on Netflix
Horizon forbidden West canceled MMO
Look how much activity this IP has from 2023 to right now, all within the same generation.
I’m not just going by what I can buy off the PlayStation store I’m going by what commercials I see in different products I can interact with around this IP.
@jwillj2k4
Seriously? Count "complete edition" and expansion as well? The only extra one that we might not need is "Lego Horizon Adventures". For me, this gen they have Horizon Forbidden West and a VR game (which PSVR2 desperately need), anything that are not out, are... simply not out, you can't count that.
@northpaws
I include anything that’s getting advertised in front of my face that they want me to buy as part of the that IP. That’s not a stretch.
Also, I failed to mention the gorilla games Horizon monster Hunter game coming out. It’s just too much too soon. I don’t even think horizons their biggest money maker. It feels like there’s an agenda that was being pushed.
Damn, I even forgot the horizon zero dawn remaster in 2024. This IP needs to be shelved ASAP.
They did that to Killzone and Resistance as well. After Killzone 2, we got the PSP games, parts 3, 4, and the Vita game all in the span of like 5 years. The series was never that popular to begin with, and unless there is something to spark new excitement in the series, the audience drops off gradually after each entry.
Horizon had its fans, but I never felt that it had mega franchise potential. And so here we are.
What a wasted generation. I’m glad at the end of last gen I said for this gen I’ll get the PS5 in three years and just play vr and older gen games. At the end of this gen or rather the start of the next I would pick up the PS5 games for cheap.
I’m glad that was my plan and glad that I stuck to the plan.
Sony trying to follow the hype into areas that they have no clue about, instead of sticking to their bread and butter games.
It sounds like you are patting yourself on the back for confirming your own decision to play old games. We all play old games, no use publishing it.
Hell yes I’m patting myself on the back for my decision.
I also said I’m playing vr games too, not just older games.
Good, I play old games too. I got games from GoG for like a dollar. I'm sure glad I did.
I'm playing new PS5 games too not just old ones.
Good they needed something to wake them up. These companies get arrogant so quickly so they realize they have a money maker. At least it didn’t need to reach PS3 levels of arrogance.
It was a much needed eye opener. Seriously, what were they thinking sinking so many resources into this absurd amount of GaaS games? You would think they never heard of 'not putting all your eggs into one basket'.
They learned from EA. These corporations have a tendency to try to replicate a profitable formula in evey project they can get away with.
GB: "Say what you will about the state of the industry, but even as games evolve, their graphics remain a key aspect. Even some of the biggest flops this year sport some gorgeous visuals, as publishers and developers push the boundaries of what’s possible, pouring years of time and money into their work."
Quantum Break and Ryse are two that I was really surprised did not get an FPS boost option when played on the Series X|S. when i started playing both on the XBO, I thought they are both good, but after playing them also on my steam deck (in 60fps) I just cant go back and play the base games on XB. They really benefit from that faster frame rate.
Driveclub is another i wished had a HFR mode on PS5.
Most games this gen are the exact same except now we get faster loading through SSD and a res and fps bump. Graphically not much has improved, hell most last gen games are being relabeled and resold as “remastered” with the aforementioned updates.
I haven’t seen or played anything on either platform that couldn’t be run on last gen. Guess the law of diminishing returns is really showing itself these days.
Most games from 20 years ago are basically the same as today, with resolution and fps upgrades. The AI is still just as braindead as it always has been, worlds are full of static, boring characters that do the same thing over and over.
Smh another reason why graphics haven't improved that much is because most devs too caught up on cross gen. Ps4 was/still a dope console but time has moved on we're halfway close to a ps6 reveal and devs still will be making games on last gen in 2025. Then theres Microsoft purposely got the Xbox series s that causes more devs to try to pull strings as much as they can smh. It's a mixed bag of stuff, the only ones I see pushing hardware is sonys studios and even some indie games look better
Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.
1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland
Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.
I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.
3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.
You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.
In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.
Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome
I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.
You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.
Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.
CANNOT wait for this! Think of it, KZ fans: Operations Mode!!! Operations in the JUNGLE!!!
Sorry guys, I'm just excited.
Killzone's 2 & 3 were the best looking FPS's of this current generation imho. Guerilla looks to be continuing their tradition of pumping out FPS's dripping with high fidelity graphics and fantastic gameplay, and I cannot wait to put this game case next to it's three brothers that came before it.
I honestly cannot wait to get my hands on my ps4! The best gaming console in the modern era
So, more graphics, more graphics and more graphics... AI promises that are never real, and more graphics, and linear story telling, and more graphics...
Hype falling.
I am currently replaying KZ3 in 3D. Seems like the developers are forgetting about 3D with the new generation which saddens me. 3D makes the games far more immersive and PS3 had more than the 360. 3D aside, I reserved a copy right after E3.