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TGG: Microsoft Backs Down, Consumers Not So Willing

Yellowpen of The Gentleman Gamer writes: You heard right, folks, the corporate giant that is Microsoft saw your memes, heard your complaints, and changed their policy to compensate for your desires. Time to get our the streamers and party hats, right?
Wrong, apparently."

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BadboyCivic4390d ago

MS has something sneaky planned

pixelsword4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

Expect a Microsoft representative to randomly attack you between now and XBO's launch date.

Timesplitter144390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

Phil Spencer

I don't trust that guy

Timesplitter144390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

One night you'll turn around in bed only to come face to face with Peter Molyneux as he puts his index finger on your lips and says "Hush now..." and drags you under the bed sheets

you'll never be seen again

MAJ0R4390d ago

In all seriousness, you want to know what could really happen? Microsoft may be all about the consumer now that no one has bought their console. However, In two years, who knows what will transpire.

I'm sure according to their EULA, they can change any features at any time. That means they could do a random firmware update after the Xbox One's launch that mandates you to have an internet connection every 24-hours and gets rid of used games. Their excuse could again be "this is now the future" again.

Microsoft could say any person who doesn't want it just don't update the firmware and keep it an offline console. Crazy idea but it's possible.

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Army_of_Darkness4390d ago

Kinect 2.0 after bad feedback from the release of the first kinect? Yet they invested heavily on it for next gen and to be mandatory for the xbone?? Lol! Yeah its definitely because they listen to they're hardcore fanbase and has nothing to do with their pre-orders getting trampled by the ps4.

Salooh4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

@Timesplitter14

My brother and i just start laughing when he show up in the stage because of how he move his hand xD

MysticStrummer4390d ago

@Timesplitter - "One night you'll turn around in bed only to come face to face with Peter Molyneux as he puts his index finger on your lips and says "Hush now..." and drags you under the bed sheets"

Nah Molyneux will threaten to do that but won't make good on his promise.

It's his way.

zeee4389d ago

So MS backtracks and people start trusting them again? It's like going back in an abusive relationship!

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LogicStomper4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

I'm calling it now. When you get your console home and download the day-one patch, it will arm a ticking time-bomb stored inside the machine. Then it will explode and kinect will record your reaction all for the laughs. They will then offer you the actual console.

AngelicIceDiamond4390d ago

What is the day one patch when you buy the console?

duplissi4390d ago

what will be amusing is that day one patch requires Internet.... lol

AngelicIceDiamond4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

So some are saying the damage is already done.

People are split, majority are happy its freedom console. Others are bitter because they're cutting I guess, some "Exclusive DRM features" which sound great imo.

The policy was still in its infancy and was subjected change people weren't willing to give MS a fair chance in that instance.

I guess all MS was asking you was to be online. But why have DRM to get great features MS? I'm simply confused. WTF does MS want people to do. What are they trying to do.

In MS own defense they should of been clear from the VERY beginning and highlight what you were getting for always being online.

Whatever the X1 is a freedom console now that's what everyone wanted.

Eddie201014390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

Not Bitter,

Just don't trust Microsoft,

First: They don't get a pass because they wanted to do this DRM, always on, invade My privacy @#$@ to begin with. They were very adament about this until they realized they were not even going to get a decent start on next gen sales.

Second: For weeks they weren't going to change anything (even made statements saying it couldn't be changed) and that they would make people understand why it was needed (Guess they couldn't come up with that explanation)

Third: There still forcing people to buy something (Kinect) that lot of people don't want and would never use.

Forth: The price is a hundred dollars more because they want to force me to buy something I don't want.

Even without the the DRM and privacy issues I would still not buy another Microsoft console.The only reason I bought three Xbox 360's Is by the time my first system died I already had a a lot of games for it that I still wanted to play and I had friends that played on Xbox live. I'm a gamer that buys all systems. but I've made it very clear I don't like what Microsoft has done to the gaming community this generation. So I can start the next generation without a console and company I dislike, Microsoft Xbox one. It's My opinion and I'm allowed to have it and I won't apologize for it and I'm not a fanboy because of it.

But I am going to buy a PS4 because I think it's a better console made by a better company.

Sayai jin4390d ago

@Eddie - I would like to let you in on a little secret....never trust ANY corporation.

Eddie201014390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

@Sayai jin

You are correct oh wise #@@ one.

You give a level of trust to a company when you purchase from them.

Microsoft has earned much less trust and I've learned not to purchase from them.

I've read some of your other post, your very good at expressing the obvious and sounding smug.

Sayai jin4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

@Eddie20101 -You searched through my posts...what the ones form the last few months or the all the way back to 2007? I am not smug, but I call it like it is. So many children (in general)on this site shouting off at the mouth.

So you resort to name calling, huh. Nothing was rude about my comment. Can you not retort without rudeness? I did not even disagree with your comment. People on this site crack me up.

Eddie201014390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

Your opinion is not law it is opionion nothing more.

Calling it like it is. Just your opinion to other
people.

I stick to my assessment of you. My opinion.

Forums are a place to express opinions.

I'm probably much older than you. So many children, why do you spend so much time reading there comments? and then commenting on there comments. Do you have a superiority complex or something.

Sayai jin4390d ago

@Eddie20101 - I just said I that I call it like I see it, I never said my opinion was law. You are putting words in my mouth. A lot of time when people are not able to debate or discuss things on a mature level or have difficulty expressing their opinions they resort to name calling or making/fabricating things up.

Your assesment of me (as you call it) does not matter, as you already probably know that. I do not have a problem with people voicing their opinion. I just pointed out that you resorted to grade school name calling and being rude to voice yours.

Your full of assumptions...i.e that your older than me, that I spend a lot of time reading through comments here, where do you come up with this info. I am 38 years old (the years pass by faster and faster every year). I come on this site occasionally mostly around the start of a new gen of gaming to try to pick up info on games. So I do not spend a lot of time sifting/reading through comments, just the first few that I see before I leave my comment. So it was you that went looking through my comments not I. So you should ask yourself that question.

Superiority complex? Once again making another huge assumption or a skewed observation. What did you read through 10 comments or so. I mostly leave level headed and unbiased comments...I am gamer in general and not a fanboy. Occasionally when I see someone make a crazy, inaccurate, etc comment I leave a comment...Once again by your logic and I am not entitled to do so? Since you so conveniently explained what a forums are used for. Hmmm. Thats sounds condescending which in turn comes from someone that may have a superiority complex. Your comments leaves huge holes, assumptions, rudeness, contradictions. I only needed to look at the comments you made here to come up with that conclusion. I am not one of the children (no disrespect kiddies) so if you say something off I may call you on it. I would only expect the same. As you claim that you are older than me then you should be able to express your opinion on a mature level, no?

Eddie201014390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

Read that post again you said "I call It like it is"

Done with you, see ya!

Sayai jin4389d ago

LOL. I see you could not keep up with your contradictions. I figured you would not be able to turn the next stone without further contradictions/assumptions.

I call it like it is...means the way I see it. My opinion. It's not hard to understand.

I pointed out several holes in your comments. Don't start something you can't finish.

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longcat4390d ago

It probably has more to do with it being seen as a surveillance device at a time when a lot of discourse is along the lines of privacy (Prism etc.)It was also gonna be banned in some regions most likely. They had to lose mandatory kinect or "always on"

So thanks to the germans for protecting our rights.....that felt weird.

hulk_bash19874390d ago

Guys this is what all the bitching was about, and they fixed it. BE HAPPY!!!

aceitman4390d ago

I wont be surprised if it still does the checking when u go online and they don't say anything about it . if someone mods there system it will catch it right when it goes online . bam caught , and u know ms is still checking.

WolfOfDarkness4390d ago

I still will get PS4 first ! My main reason is simply is this " PS4 is More Powerful " than Xbox One , I did my research on the net , I've read some game develops quotes regarding this and all of them Agreed that actually PS4 is 40% to 50% more powerful Ryan Xbox one ! That's means Sony IPs will look amazing . One game developer said " if you play COD : Ghosts one PS4 and Xbox One you will Notice the graphic deference , PS4 will look better !
What else you want ?

I might get Xbox One for one reason , and one dame reason " Killer Instinct "

All of us want to enjoy playing Call Of Duty , but where it does look better ? PS4 !

I loved Xbox 360 joystick and Xbox one almost looked the same , BUT the new PS4 looked amazing and people who tried it said " it's better than Xbox One Joystick ! I guess that's another reason to buy PS4 first .

-Superman-4390d ago

PS4 is still cheaper and more powerful.
As we know, PS2 had more and better exclusives than Xbox, PS3 had more and better exclusives than Xbox 360, and PS4 will have more and better exclusievs than Xbox ONE(180)

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dedicatedtogamers4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

Microsoft decided to NOT do something they originally planned and defended for the last several weeks. At best, that puts them back at neutral footing. However, that doesn't erase the last month of rude, dismissive, arrogant statements nearly every day. A flip-flop is still a flip-flop. You can't simply ignore your fans and say "we're doing it anyway", change your tune a month later, and then magically expect them to trust you again.

I can only speak for myself, but I don't buy a console for its launch titles. I buy a console if I agree with the vision of the company and the vision of the console. That's why I bought a Wii on Day One and didn't buy a PS3 or 360 until 2008.

The same goes for this gen. Xbox One-Eighty doesn't even have a vision anymore. They've gone back on all the features that made the Xbox One "future proof" and "revolutionary" and "overdelivering on value" and all that stuff. What's the vision for the console now? And no, "no DRM anymore" is not a vision.

TheGentlemanGamer4390d ago

Appreciate the approve, despite your disagreement. Score one for mature discourse.

Loki864390d ago

Microsoft showed gamers an all-digital idea and it was unanimously revoked. Can't sell a console if no one is going to buy it. Sony backing out of the DRM, really forced MS's hand imo.

TheGentlemanGamer4390d ago

The point, IMO, is that they backed out. The policies were effectively the same at first. So saying the idea is abhorrent means you have to hate both sides.

Biggest4390d ago

Sony had the same measures? That's strange. I don't remember one instance of Sony saying as much or anyone with credibility uncovering as much. Care to share your info, guys?

MariaHelFutura4390d ago

"The policies were effectively the same at first."

Sony from the get go said the PS4 could be played entirely offline. Don't make stuff up to make yourself feel better.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

MasterCornholio4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

"Sony backing out of the DRM"

They never planned for it in the first place so i dont see how they backed out from something that they never supported.

Credit to MariaHelFutura
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
"Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."
"You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected,"

This is just proof that Sony never thought about implementing the same DRM system as Microsoft since they designed the console to be able to play games offline.

Seriously how do you implement an online DRM system if you can play games offline on the console?

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kewlkat0074390d ago

". I buy a console if I agree with the vision of the company and the vision of the console."

Sorry bro, I buy a console for the games...If it could do some other tricks well i'm in as well...

What vision?, every damn company wants your money, gimme me a break.

dedicatedtogamers4390d ago

"What vision?, every damn company wants your money, gimme me a break."

I'm happy to explain what I mean. Let's consider the 360's vision: the vision was taking online multiplayer and bringing it all together in a unified network. Every major game served that vision. The Wii's vision: lower the barrier of entry for videogames and even up the playing field by changing the control scheme. Every major Wii game served that vision.

The vision of a console tends to dictate how that console will be year after year.

Sony's vision for the PS4 is creating a system where indie games and AAA games can both find a home. That's a vision I approve of. Microsoft's vision for the Xbox One was all-in-one digital library with a heavy emphasis on TV features. That's a vision I didn't want.

wishingW3L4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

I've been asking this to many people, how DRM made the XB1 future proof? But no one has been able to come up with a compelling answer.

So, can you come up with something clever? And to make it even more enticing, just give me 1 reason. Just 1 and of-course an explanation.

What was revolutionary and future proof about the Xbox One before they dropped the DRM?

No_Limit4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

dedicatedtogamers, I think oppositions like you on N4G and Neogaf are the ones that are helping the cause to make MS change their decision for all of us. If you guys didn't post so many negative complaints on Xbox related articles, then non of this would have happened. In that, I say thank you. :)

"Microsoft has already lost this console gen. I feel bad for those who insist on continuing their brand loyalty with Xbox (since Xbox clearly shows no loyalty to you)."

"Folks, the Xbox One is going to be how it is now. It may change a few months after launch, but it will never lose the 24-hour check-in. "

"The author is funding a console future that I don't want. I already have enough grief dealing with DRM-laden, restriction-filled PC gaming. I'd prefer if consoles didn't also follow the same route. "

"I reject the notion that digital is the future. I flat-out reject it. Books, movies, and music are still alive and available in physical format, even though digital streaming/downloading has been available for many more years compared to console videogames."

dedicatedtogamers4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

You are welcome, but my comments were just a drop in the bucket.

All the same, thank you for reading.

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TheGentlemanGamer4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

What makes you say that? (@BadboyCivic)

Mr_Nuts4390d ago

Remove mandatory Kinect, lower the price, let Indies self publish, gives us more benefits of using Gold, apologize for the rude, arogant comments plus admitting ypu were wrong and MAYBE we'll talk

DjKiba4390d ago

Wouldn't that just make it a PS4

Transporter474390d ago

It would be a Down version of a PS4.

Themba764390d ago

a less powerful one but yes.

RyuCloudStrife4390d ago

far inferior but with the same vision

Salooh4390d ago

Exactly what i want , i enjoyed their conference at e3. They can do it if they want but it seems that they only respond when you use the hard way. So no support from me until they listen to us and then i will consider buying THE ONE after 1 year or 2 because of their history..

Bobby Kotex4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

I'll talk trash here, and I'm leaning toward the PS4, but I gotta give credit to the Xbox fans who spoke out against this DRM. You prevented a very bad precedent and kept the 2 consoles competitive. The fanboys who supported it? Go eat a fat one.

R_aVe_N4390d ago

I honestly don't think it was Microsoft fans that did this.It was all the news outlets in the world bashing the crap out of them. It was clear they didn't care what their loyal followers thought. It wasn't until they were utterly trampled by pre-orders, and media bashing that they changed their minds fairly fast. At the end of the day its all about the bottom line, and they say that shrinking really really fast.

TheGentlemanGamer4390d ago

This I don't get. They responded to the media bashing and pre-order numbers by changing the policies in a way that their fans and customers wanted.

How is this not a victory for those customers? The news outlets bashed them because the customers bashed them, right?

gamertk4214390d ago

It was the Sony fans who unwittingly made possible the chance for the XB1 to win this Gen.

aceitman4390d ago

it started with sony gamers saying to sony we no your not going to do that then ms gamers said ur going to do that the hell with u and the media made it a gamers storm that took ms head off so they did a 360 and said ok we will change it but we are not going to let u share with your family . wow they took a good feature away with the bad ones that is ms for u . now u have to buy one for u and ur brother and ur sister cause u cant share now , hopefully they don't take those 2 free games a month away before November. the snakes they are.

RyuCloudStrife4390d ago

Xbox fans didn't do ANYTHING except go out and preorder the console.

The ones who did something was Sony and the reaction they got from their fans at E3 when they laid a whopping on M$.

M$ backed down because it saw how bad the XBONE was doing VS PS4. M$ didn't do this for their fans as the news said that they listened to "us", they did it to get your money.

Sony didn't go down that road for US the gamers!

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer3d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30003d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer3d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger3d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30003d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto3d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing693d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif3d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing693d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif2d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot3d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast3d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto3d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos2d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo2d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner2d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted2d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast3d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay3d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted2d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34852d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK2d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer7d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole7d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK7d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent756d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM7d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif7d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer6d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin6d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer4d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent756d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer6d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM6d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer7d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused7d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher7d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning777d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay7d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer6d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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