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Xbox One doesn't need to care about core gamers

Microsoft doesn't need to cater for gamers - why should it? It's focus is broader - and some would say, smarter in the long run...

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DaveyB4023d ago

Finally! Nice to read an article which doesn't a) completely miss the point and b)is relatively positive bout Xbox One. So tired of reading 'how Microsoft messed up their presentation' articles. It's ony been 24 hours and it's already boring.

NewMonday4023d ago

This goes 2 ways, core gamers will not care about the X1

DaveyB4023d ago

The point he's making is that with a popular eco system (therefor a large audience) developers will be more attracted to it. If developers are attracted to it, then gamers will follow where the developers go.

'Genuine' core gamers will go where he games are. Games will go to to the most popular ecosystem.

As gamer-focused as Nintendo claim to be - this is what they're missing. The popularlity of their ecosystem is poor, so they're missing developer support.

jimbobwahey4023d ago

The problem you seem to be missing though, DaveyB, is that core gamers are integral to the success of a console launch because they're the only ones who will be willing to put down the amount of cash required to own such a device within the first few years of its lifespan.

If Microsoft abandons them, who will be there to buy the Xbox One at release? It certainly won't be the casual crowd.

Freak of Nature4023d ago (Edited 4023d ago )

"XBOX, tell me why you don't care for us core gamers"?

"XBOX, switch me over to my PS4 please"....

loulou4023d ago

so a bunch of n4g fanboys are the voice and know what core gamers want and dont want??

for all these lack of core games on the 360 this gen, i can tell you that my 360 has seen more use than my ps3.

so i did i miss the part where microsoft said the xbox1 doesn't play games? from what i could understand from yesterday was, that the xbox1 is a games console with lots of added features.

the xbox1 will get EVERY 3rd party game that sony gets next-gen, and the only difference will be the exclusives..

looks like a console to me

Kaneda4023d ago

@loulou n4g fanboys are core gamers.. This is a game site... and you have a lot of disagreed.

mmccarthy44023d ago

I don't think ms will abandon the core market but it definately will try and bring all groups of people together. I think if kinect 2 delivers what kinect one promised it could add to the core experience if done right but that all depends on how it performs and how devs implement it. I was suprised so few people were impressed with the ui and how quickly everyone dismissed the new ip sinse when does ms release new ips

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HardcoreGamer4023d ago

SO WHY AM I SOOO PISSED OFF, WAITED 2 YEARS FOR MS TO SHOW SOMMTHING, AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA SHOW US GOOD WITH THAT WAITING GAP. I SHOULD OF JUST TOOK A SHIT INSTED OF HOLD IT THRU THAT SHIEYTY CONFERENCE

syphon324023d ago

It really was a so so conference

Chapter114023d ago

Gamers will never follow a system that requires Kinect, a fee to play used games, and a company that obviously doesn't care about them on any level.

Objective4023d ago (Edited 4023d ago )

Precisely. A progressive business model creates an accessible, popular and functional platform off which developers will be enticed to do their magic. Trying to wrest control of platform and content is an outdated business model. Apple's success is proof of this. Glad MS can see this.

syphon324023d ago

Not progressive objectively, destructive. For a system who's main patron is gamers.

Raf1k14023d ago

With so much focus on other features and little focus on games I can't help but feel that the X1 would be better suited to a CES reveal than a pre-E3 one.

Alos884023d ago

You know what, DaveyB? I think that if yesterday had gone differently you would be singing a very different tune.
We only "don't matter" until casual gamers take a good look at the price and say "no thanks"- then suddenly, we become vital to the success of a console. What a mysterious occurence.

ZeroX98764023d ago (Edited 4023d ago )

Then if they don't care about core gamer, how about we remove it from N4G completely?

Most of the fan base on this site are core gamers and I don't see much posting about ios and android games.

My first console pick was PS4 before the reveal of the Xbox one. it didn't change after the reveal. Maybe E3 will bring more positive things for the xbox on the GAME side. I hope so for all the core xbox fans out there who's been supporting them since 2001.

wishingW3L4023d ago

are you really that interested on its cable-box features that you're willing to sacrifice specs, put up with always online and games locked to an account just for that? On top of it pay to play online too?

joeorc4023d ago (Edited 4023d ago )

while on a whole I do agree this is great and A GOOD THING FOR MICROSOFT TO EXPAND INTO but there is a under lining core problem that Microsoft is facing, and that here take a look.

Press conference introducing the "Samsung Smart TV at CES 2012 that has motion gesture control, voice control and face recognition.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Looks familiar?

The problem for Microsoft is the fact that not just Samsung but you have LG, Philips,Panasonic,sharp,vizio, lenovo,Apple,Google TV. that does not include other topset box'es like sling or cube roku.

ALL COURTING THOSE VERY SAME road maps to attract the same consumer's. So Microsoft just split their consumer target dynamics be a hell of a lot, one of which is going to be quite hard to do will, if Microsoft does well it will be fantastic, if they do not they will have paid dearly for it.

While i Applaud microsoft to moving into this part of the market it is going into a more contested market dynamic than just game console.

I think Nintendo and Sony are taking a better way to challenge this part of the market than what Microsoft is doing, and while i think its good Microsoft is open to doing this.

I think that Microsoft may have a much harder time to compete in this part of the market. but we will see i wish them Luck they are going to need it.

himdeel4023d ago

I agree that if MS can do it right it will be something to see. But I'd argue that most smart TVs already do all of this stuff already and your games are still only a button press away now on the 360/PS3/WiiU.

Lastly as someone who has given up cable a little more than 2 years ago and spend my free time gaming. I'm glad the Xbox One will have the usual suspects of apps for internet TV watchers. All I could think of during this announcement was this is the new Blackberry.

mananimal4023d ago (Edited 4023d ago )

What you just stumbled on is the "Consolidation of ALL THINGS" , that is happening in every concievable market Worldwide, not just entertainment. Its not a coincidence but by DESIGN. All business sectors basically doing the same things to a degree until it becomes a way of life, the norm for people, then no one resist the tyranny any longer. Consolidation......of all things on earth. nations, EVERYTHING etc etc etc. Console wars? lol lol, theres never been such a thing, a lie told to sheeple by the media(they're liars always have been). PS4 will be similarly draconian, you'll see people.

Using an analogy: This Next Gen will seperate the wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats, gamer freedom lovers from those who wld trade there freedoms as slave minded gamer whimps.

To each his own though. But I would NEVER by a SPY BOX & bring it into my home, I Love my family & my right to privacy. Xbox One is a threat to freedom & privacy. No thanks from this Core Gamer, Never.

himdeel4023d ago

Xbox One only cares about your living room...doesn't matter who's in there.

CONFIRMED: The vents on the new Xbox are so big because its dual purpose is to cool your home in the summer and keep you toasty in the winter.

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Patashnik4023d ago

I think a lot of what he says is true. If you build an environment that works and becomes popular, everything else falls into place. Look at Apple - it's not the device that;s key - it's the ecosystem that sits inside it. Once you have that developers will follow.

In that sense MS are going about it a sensible way.

Still wish they showed some games though! >_<

mega314023d ago

I read an article how this was Steve Jobs Dream device created by Microsoft LOL :D nice twist

mega314023d ago

LOL why do u care if its denial hes right, people will go towards the all in one system. Look at how apple succeded with the tablet iPad, its games, movies, internet capabilities. People like simplistic things, and the xbox is as simple as simple gets. This will sell very well cause u know the saying, "Simplicity is its own reward"

SexyGamerDude4023d ago (Edited 4023d ago )

I don't know why you are comparing this to the iPad. It's nothing like the IPad. Yes, the IPad had games, movies, and internet capabilities but the main reason people bought it is because you can do all that AND it's mobile and on the go. The main reason people all like the all these mobile devices is because they are smart, easy to use, and mobile.

You cannot put your One away and take it out to play games or watch movies on the train/bus. The ONE is nothing like the IPad.

Why not compare it to Sony's WiFi Blue ray media players? They do everything the Xbox One is trying to do. They offer you all kind of free movie channels and you can watch videos from Netflix, Hulu Plus, ESPN, and other services. Plus, it's much cheaper.

Not even TV lovers will love this thing. Give it up. You're not convincing anybody.

mega314023d ago

Im not convincing anyone, lol, jeez, im saying everyone likes simple, this is simple. Tv lovers will love this thing, half of my friends parents want to buy this because of the tv thing, and THAT IS DEPRESSING. Xbox moved away from gamers because they have the opinion that this should be an entertainment box. And i never compared xbox to ipad i just said look at how apple succeeded with an all in one device.

An all in one device is perfect for everyone, im not happy, but at the same time i know why they chose this route. We are gamers, there aren't enough of us in the world, and MS wants to have a console in every home, well guess what no matter what you say this is the best way to do it. TV integration, and Skype and all this. This is going to be in a lot of homes.

There will be an XboxOne in a lot of homes this year because well, its an entertainment hub. Thats it, nothing to it.

Im disappointed in the way Microsoft chooses to handle it but in the long run, this will make them A LOT of money.

Im getting PS4 and XboxOne, so ill have best of both worlds cause they both are unique in their own way.

ebreda4023d ago

Mega31 is absolutely right. Unfortunately, there's NOT enough of us real gamers to make MS the fortune they want.
They came from 20 or so million Xboxes to 70 or so million 360s, and EVERYONE agrees MS did almost everything right this generation (except for missing some exclusives towards the end of the cycle). And all this marketing/investment/hard work has gotten them 70 million hardware sales.

Realistically, how many consoles could MS expect to sell next-gen, IF they did everything we wanted? Say, tons of exclusives games, best hardware, etc? How many? 100 million? 120 million at the most? Is that what Sony expect to sell? 150 million maybe?

Now look at where Apple and Samsung are. That'a what MS wants. There's simply not enough of us gamers to buy 250 million of Xbox Ones, if only because a gaming machine is what it is, and it's geared towards a very specific crowd, and that is us and us alone.

Nintendo effectively broaded gaming appeal, and the most they got was 100 million Wiis sold. That's it.

MS was very clear about wanting to sell a all-in-one box (it even showed those exactly same words during the event), and with that they are aiming at everyone who enjoys sitting on the couch and watching TV, and maybe playing some games too. They're not coming for US, they're coming for everyone else, and maybe some of us too, if they're smart about system exclusives.

MS is now following a whole different path. Sony wants to sell game consoles, and that will probably guarantee them 150 million sales, because as a gaming machine, the PS4 is an absolutely beast of a system. MS on the other hand is heading for the all-in-one/media center set-top box, and they can realistically sell a lot more, if only because they have a very different demographic to cater to.

Is it good for us real gamers? It doesn't seem so, because the gaming aspect has apparently been neglected. But it really doesn't matter to MS, because they have a much wider potential market waiting for them.

urwifeminder4023d ago

Is it something to do with fruit? so many labels these days I know I like the box1.

sly-Famous4023d ago

Of course MS doesnt have to care about core gamers because Sony will.

maxgamehard4023d ago

I am shocked at how many Xbox fans are cool with what M$ did. What is E3 going to change? There will still be mandatory installs, mandatory every 24 hour internet checks, mandatory kinect, used game fees.

Are people cool with this, cause i am not.

I have bought every console this gen and last gen but this next gen i will only own a Wii U and PS4.

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies2d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX2d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody2d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 23h ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_2d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga2d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly2d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga2d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit2d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 23h ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_2d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21832d ago (Edited 2d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies2d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander19727d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv726d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander19726d ago (Edited 6d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal6d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead6d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan6d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl6d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx5d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.