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thechosenone4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

Hey Prcko you're the top dog now! Congrats. bub+1 for being awesome.

my fav moment so far

Geoff: What does MS need to have at this event to make it really special

Ex-MS crony: Halo

Geoff: Another Halo? (you actually saw him frown)

heh

(it's moments like these that make watching boring press events so worth it. :D)

Rev3games is also doing a live stream
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

(Forza overtook GT? When the hell did this happen? Did their last game sell more than 10 million copies? Did the franchise sell more than 70 million copies total? So how in Da fook did they over take GT?! Answer me gametrailers!)

Gazondaily4406d ago

Gotta love the dramatic music. Less than 2 minutes left!!!

darthv724406d ago

cloud powered...interesting

Gazondaily4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

Entertainment console confirmed. Wow so friggin fast. Multi tasking is brilliant on this.

But where are the games??

Skips4406d ago

Microsoft - "We at Xbox LOVE gaming.......... now let's watch TV."

thechosenone4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

MS stuck in the 90s? This would have been cool a number of years ago but today everyone is moving away from the traditional content distribution model and having it being centralized in just one place.

What about the hardware? Where's the info on how beefy it is compared to PS4? heh

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Gazondaily4406d ago

15 exclusive ips. Wow very good. Lets hope they are core titles.

Gazondaily4406d ago

Lol the new COD looks so mediocre. Battlefield 3 on PC destroys it visually and technically.

thechosenone4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

That was lame so incredibly lame. :D Without question PS4 > Xbox -1. PS4 is a much more attractive product for gamers but if TV & Movies is your thing then I suggest you go with the Xbox.

(and COD looks current gen! lulz But don't worry it'll have the same old laggy gameplay and poor hit-detection just like always. COD DOA next-gen, Killzone, Destiny, BF4 all day).

@Septic from the 15, 8 are new IPs but they didn't say how many of those were kinect titles.

Computersaysno4406d ago

Xbox 1 came out 12 years ago didn't it?

Doh!!!!!!!!!!

malokevi4406d ago

They spent half the show talking about sports, sports games, fantasy teams, and interviews with sports stars...

I DONT CARE EVEN A LITTLE BIT.

All I wanted to see was some impressive software... I saw NOTHING.

No demonstration of Kinect integrated into games. Nothing really cool... at all.

The TV thing is awesome, the social capabilities, but... that was supposed to be the gravy. Wheres the potatoes? WHERES THE GAMES?

I'm sort of dissapointed right now. Console looks beutiful, funtionality is awesome, but... I didn't see what I wanted to see.

At least the PS4 conference had tech demos, trailers, in-game footage, and that cool modeling app with the Move.

Microsofts focus is BS. If they don't demonstrate some serious stuff at E3 next month, i will be considering PS4 as my primary gaming console.

Which is sad news to me...

Anon19744406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

That was god awful. What was that? 50 minutes of how the Xbox is now a cable box? I see that Sony stock surged up almost 10% in a matter of minutes to a high not seen in a year and a half about mid way through this train wreck.

But onto the event. It seems always on, always watching, showed no games (just cgi trailers) and the entire focus was on how the Xbox was your new cable box. Seriously, we should take this whole Xbox reveal thread and move it over to TechSpy because it had almost nothing to do with games, which I believe is supposed to be the focus of this site.

The original Xbox was my favourite console of it's gen (sorry PS2). The 360 was alright. I was already planning on waiting with the Xbox One just because of hardware issues I suffered through with the 360, but now I think I'll pass. There just seems to be no reason a gamer would actually buy one of these based on that reveal.

Microsoft have lost their collective minds, in my opinion. It's like they have no clue who took the Xbox to the heights it achieved. It was a big middle finger to all Xbox fans.

loulou4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

darkride your talking out of your arse, and no doubt that stock thread yours that got failed.

the tv stuff was great no doubt. the rapid moving between services was good aswell. and the kinect/skype will be great for using when i speak to my family in the UK.

the console looks like a no nonsense console (looks wise) with a hint of blu-ray player and set-top box.... which it is. buy the looks you can see that microsoft are trying to appeal to a broader market. which i think is going to work in their favour.

i still want to see what they show at e3.. but with the talk of the cheque book being flashed, and 15 exclusives within 12 months of launch, they are up for it.

i think that they are going to give sony an even tougher fight next-gen..

ps4 and xbox1 are both day 1 for me now.

DragonKnight4406d ago

People though Microsoft would reveal a next gen gaming console. What we all got was an "entertainment" box that does sports and voice commands really well but...

SilentNegotiator4406d ago

YES! HALO!

....television series.

*HURK*

MysticStrummer4406d ago

Hear that sound? It's Sony laughing.

MS could still redeem themselves at E3, but this reveal might have actually helped PS4 buzz.

gta28004406d ago

If Comcast made a new cable box that happened to have some gaming capability it would be the Xbox One!

DARK WITNESS4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

Wow...

and they had the nerve to take the piss out of sony for not showing hardware, what a joke.

MS could not have got this more wrong.. yet again.

There are loads of people in my office that have 360 for casual gaming, None of them stayed behind to watch this crap. The 4 of us who did were all waiting for them to show games...

The only smart thing they did was not change the controller and make sure the casing was so big there is no chance of it RROD'ing

I can now safely say i am pre-ordering my ps4

nix4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

feels surreal.

i mean how can MS screw this up? after Sony's show everyone wanted to hear about games on xbox. games. but noh. i wonder which idiots are running this show?

they probably went back to xbox one bcoz ipad also went back to 1 or a zero, in their case.

funniest part is Sony's stock going up midway. i mean talk about irony there.

i can't wait to read the memes now.

RedDevils4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

DAMN that one ugly BOX LMAO

BattleAxe4406d ago

No real game announcements, lots of TV, a live action Halo series, a new Forza game, Kinect with every console....ths was all too predictable, and I'm really underwhelmed by this press conference.

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bintarok4406d ago

XboxReveal at Xbox.com plays war-themed fanfare songs, the next gen war is about to BEGIN!

Maddens Raiders4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

Damn it looks bigger than my family's first vcr! just saying... not judging its power.

Entertainment-centric, Always ON???? whoaaaa.....

I don't want to watch TV, I want to game!!

Bam! 2013

The controller seems to be a bit of the same?

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Donnieboi4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

I found it kinda hard to stay awake during the whole thing. Was kinda boring. And that new COD game doesn't excite me about COD again.

Sports games and COD...typical. At least xbox knows it's own audience. I'm still not interested...

MYSTERIO3604406d ago

It seems MS are competing with the cable box market. Good luck

ZombieKiller4406d ago

they strayed even further from games and brought the thing I hate the most to it.....sports. First off, I work in the cellular industry and the smart phones nowadays, do what this Xbox one does. I can't stand the sports takeover. its a gaming console. as if we didn't have TV already. they showed 3 games, on of which was call of doody....

despite having a 360, I'm not getting this one. it looks like its just going to be another money grubbing decade for MS. This time looks to be with things I dont want too.

It sounds like the titles to these consoles are really the scoreboard to how many generations of consoles I will ever buy from the companies. playstation=4 xbox=1

Rhaigun4406d ago

Its the very first day we've seen this machine, and I already hate it. I'd rather buy a WiiU at this point.

Psn8004406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

Ugh not for me this time around ! Ps4 all the way .

Count4406d ago

Gee. Color me surprised.

Docknoss4406d ago

I heard that Kevin Butler will be giving a presentation for xbox at the E3 conference and his closing quote is "it only does everything better"!

Apocalypso4406d ago

The only place you heard that was from reading your comment out loud before posting.

Imalwaysright4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

I didn't watch the conference but judging by the comments here it seems that MS will be following the same strategy they had with the 360 in the past 3 years and to me that is a no no. They better have new core Ips at E3 or else as far as gaming is concerned the Xbox and MS are dead to me.

fatstarr4406d ago

after watching it twice. gen 8 is doomed Nintendo, sony and Microsoft failed us.

https://www.youtube.com/wat... the feelings of most watching.

aceitman4406d ago

my question is who is the people that clap at any and everything.

RE4PER-DE4TH4405d ago (Edited 4405d ago )

The reveal did exactly what it was supposed to and it showed a lot about their plan to have a solid living room solution. It doesn't mean that it's not a games console, it's just like the guy said about having to switch inputs to get to other content. So now instead of a media center pc, a Roku device, a cable box, and a wifi router to network all that now it's integrated into one machine. That doesn't spell the doom of Xbox being a games console! The console still comes with a controller, not a remote like for your TV. They know gamers want games and they know living rooms are the center for entertainment.

Question to all the PS fanboys: when PS2 came with DVD playback did that stop it from being a games console? Did it take away the focus of PS2 gamers playing their games? No, a gamer will play his or her games first and foremost before they look at the other capabilities of a console.

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Hellsvacancy4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

2 mins old and 900*, 2 comments? did someone manually turn the thermostat up?

Edit: I see :)

Emilio_Estevez4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

Admin moved it up there so it's readily available for everyone to see.

yes, he did. (not me)

Also, be sure not to waste all your bubs here to early guys and gals.

TrevorPhillips4406d ago

Thank you Emilio! :)

Btw, any chance on a new Mighty Ducks movie loll :P

brave27heart4406d ago

Quack quack quack quack.....

ArmrdChaos4406d ago (Edited 4406d ago )

You can fix the bubble system by changing it so that new accounts start off with only 1 bubble. That way the people who want to act like asshats only to create a new account for more bubbles will have no recourse. Want more bubbles...then I guess you will have to earn them and behave appropriately.

Emilio_Estevez4406d ago

Neither of us can change that, srry dude...We do try to watch new accounts though and it does yield results.

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Christopher4406d ago

I abused my powers. I admit it.

What time should I expect the lynch mob?

:D

Etseix4406d ago

in a bit, we're getting snacks and sodas at the store first :D

DragonKnight4406d ago

This kind of thing is worth the power abuse though. Console reveals should be at the top of the list in terms of heat.

Still, WORST CONSOLE REVEAL EVER!

Tonester9254406d ago

IT'S ABOUT THAT TIME MOTHASUCKASSSSS

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain13d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198112d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK11d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts11d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK11d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT15d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits14d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel114d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic14d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN14d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel113d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica14d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14914d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga13d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania14d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts14d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7714d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7714d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts14d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7714d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb13d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow14d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor14d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate9121d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa7821d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio21d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate9121d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis21d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX21d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn21d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX21d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto21d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog21d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

**btw, I'm talking about street food vendors, just in case there's any confusion!

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Lightning7721d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio21d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning7721d ago (Edited 21d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx21d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning7721d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole21d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio21d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs21d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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