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Pach-Attack- Next Xbox: Revealed a Little Late?

GT:Michael Pachter addresses pressing Xbox questions before the big reveal

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GraveLord4152d ago

Next Xbox playing catch-up to the PS4.

SynGamer4152d ago

Considering we know next-to-nothing about the NextBox, it's hard to really say anything at this point. Rumors state it's 6 months behind but rumors also state it had a major exclusive. Either of those rumors could make or break the new system...but we simply don't know right now.

I personally do not see Microsoft letting the NextBox slip to 2014. As far as Sony, they NEED to release BEFORE Microsoft does, that I'm sure of.

strickers4152d ago

Why do Sony NEED to release BEFORE MS? Did you not look at the maths on this Gen
Ps3 was 12/16 months later and now has sales parity. That means it sold faster despite being very late and very expensive .
Launching at the same time gives PS advantage here .

MikeMyers4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

They don't need to release the PS4 before the Xbox. They would like to come out at the same time or earlier, sure. The PS3 actually sold at a faster rate than the Xbox 360 so I'm not sure why they need to come out earlier.

Whenever they do release these systems expect some people to prefer the PS4 no matter what Microsoft shows. That's just how these forums operate unfortunately. Of course there is reason to be less optimistic about the new Xbox but I guarantee you no matter what they show on the 21st you will get familiar members who will be negative about it.

What N4G should do is have a rating beside each members name. With it there should be a number attached to how many negative and positive comments that user has said towards each system and each company for all to see. Then there would be no reason to dig up anyone's post history to see how biased they are. It would provide much better insight to the next Xbox being revealed and the response. If someone never says anything good about Microsoft and the Xbox 360 and the next Xbox has a great show on the 21st and they say something negative people will have a much clearer picture of who they are and what objective they bring to these forums. Same with those who can never hold Microsoft accountable and always put a positive spin on things. Then they have a terrible unveiling and they still do damage control.

I'd just like to see people be more accountable here and the moderators to just get rid of those who serve no purpose other than to disrupt the communities. I'd like to see the immaturity that stems from the console wars gone but if anything it looks like things will heat up instead. Those that hit and run with the disagrees are likely the very same people I'm referring to.

SynGamer4152d ago

I say Sony needs to release before MS because of those exact details you mention above. The PS3 sold faster than the 360 even though it released a year later. Wouldn't the advantage grow even more if Sony released BEFORE MS this time?

The difference for this new generation is we have waited, as gamers, longer between generations than previously seen. Gamers are excited and waiting for the new consoles. I mean, heck, Sony didn't even reveal what the PS4 looked like in February and look at the hype it has maintained.

Releasing second/after MS may not spell doom for Sony, but releasing BEFORE MS can't hurt...

TooTall194152d ago

Next Xbox getting full attention from the previous two Pach-Attacks.

HmongAmerican4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

He just like MS more and he always get excited on everything MS related.

Hueynewton20124150d ago

LOL look up gametrailers, viacom and Microsoft. that will answer all of your questions as to why Pachter talks the way he does.

GalacticEmpire4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

What matters more is the release date, if it's pushied into 2014 as some rumors suggest then THAT would be a problem, maybe. Although PS4 has enjoyed a lot of unchallenged hype since the reveal in Feb.

SynGamer4152d ago

I have to agree that Sony and the PS4 have received A LOT of hype and most of his has been unchallenged. As May quickly becomes June, Microsoft will reveal the NextBox and we'll have a much clearer picture of what is to come back E3.

Jek_Porkins4152d ago

I doubt they'd be showing the next Xbox before E3 is that were the case. No way does it get delayed into 2014, they want the holiday pie and even if it's not going to be available worldwide or in the millions, they will launch in North America this year.

Rumors were trying to suggest a lot of negative things when it comes to the next Xbox, but I highly doubt every single first party studio Microsoft has is running six months behind, just not going to happen.

I'd also point out that Microsoft and those negative rumors were dominating the front pages when it really should have been the PS4 dominating the front pages, all the negative rumors just means that many more people are going to tune in and see what Microsoft has to say, show and offer.

GalacticEmpire4152d ago

"those negative rumors were dominating the front pages when it really should have been the PS4 dominating the front pages"

Yeah people do love a good fail more than positive stuff, although PS4 still had a good presence despite that.

Look, I know you REALLY don't want to see a delay, nobody does, but that doesn't meant it's impossible. Things can go wrong with the complex matter of console development, in hardware as well as software. We can't really make a guess at the probability of something like a delay happening but to completely deny that it's possible is folly.

QuantumWake4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

It's only "a little late" because Sony announced the PS4 first. Had MS revealed they were going to show off their console in May a lot earlier, people would be more calm about it.

But since everyone was so hyped after the PS4 announcement (me included) everyone was like, "OMG WHERE IS MS? THEY HAVE TO SHOW OFF NOW OR THEY'RE DOOMED!"

hazardman4152d ago

Your right in some ways. But MS was the first to say the were going to reveal something when they put he countdown clock up to E3 and that was weeks before the PS4 reveal. The PS4 being revealed earlier than expected probably made MS reveal earlier than they wanted but hey, it is what it is!!! And I truly hope next box doesn't come out next yr. Or whatever if that's the case it gives me more time to save up. So I would get PS4 this yr. and XboxNext next yr.

Max-Zorin4152d ago

Next gen systems: Will be great

Their fanboys: Will continue look like The Purge

TemplarDante4152d ago

Eurogamer has a nice article on the Nextbox GPU, they even refer to it as the Xbox Durango GPU. Mid range HD7790. £116.

Heres a link to the little beast review on Eurogamer.

www.eurogamer.net/articles/di gitalfoundry-radeon-hd-7790-rev iew

hazardman4152d ago

The link doesn't work, but in your opinion is the GPU any good? I don't know much about PC tech, thanks!

nikoado4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

The link works; just remove the spaces in the words digital and review. N4G doesn't take too kindly to people posting links so he added some spaces.

Looks like an interesting read so far, thanks TemplarDante.

TemplarDante4152d ago

Sorry about the spaces, guys.
Just google Eurogamers website, Hazardman if theres still a problem.

The PS4 uses a 7970M GPU. It is a 1.82TFlop GPU.

The XBOX 3 GPU is a 7790 GPU, it is a 1.2TFlog GPU.
So the PS4 GPU is far more powerful but
1)At launch, it wont show, games may look similar.
2)Both are tweaked and in a closed system, it would be great.

The PS4 GPU is about 10Times more powerful than the PS3s.

The XBOX Infinity GPU is about 8 times more powerful than the 360s.

PS4 GPU
18CUs
800Mhz

Xbox Infinity
12CUs
800Mhz.

At the end of the day, even though the Xbox3 gpu will be weaker, it will still be great in a closed system in a console.
I have a HD6770 on my pc, its a great GPU, I run Planetside 2 at near max settings and it looks gorgeous.

There are similarites between the 5770
6770
7770
7790
And I can assure you, next gen, we're all in for a treat.
PS4 and Xbox Infinity gamers alike.

TheSauce4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

@TemplarDante

There is also the rumor of the hybrid cpu. That would definitely bring the next xbox's performance up.

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The Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster Proves You Don't Need A PS5 Pro

Why do you need a better PS5 when there aren’t any games that will utilise its power?

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derek17h ago

You technically don't "need" the ps5, ps4 or the ps3, lol. You don't need any videogame console, it isn't a necessity of life. If you want the best playstation console money can by, that would be the ps5 pro.

CS713h ago

While the article is pessimistic and negative, can we agree that typically playstation hardware allowed experiences that no previous generation was able to deliver?

With the PS5 and Pro that's changed and its because its first party are having trouble making exclusives that harnesses the PS5 power. And with so few using the base PS5 to the max, the Pro just seems pointless in a way that no other major Playstation ever has.

Idk, you guys keep defending Sony, first it was covid, then chip shortages, then live service won't hold back single player games. Now here we are with barely any good first party games in sight and the defense continues.

Sony needs to get their head out of their arrogant rear and get back in touch with what gamers want. And it's not live service games and it's not a $700 PS5 pro to see more detailed bleachers in Ratchet and Clank.

And just to rest my case, when you are showing your most powerful system (PS5 Pro) using a last generation game (TLOU2) something is very very wrong.

smashman989h ago

I don't think you quite got it. This isn't the ps3 gen where the cell was difficult to use and there was a period of time where the console just was not being properly utilized. These consoles are on x86 architecture and are performing at or around the level of comparable PC's. Sure there's SSD stuff more 3rd party devs could do but this isn't going to result in a big graphical leap.

_SilverHawk_6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Drinking water proves you don't need a ps5 pro. Get a brita water filter

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andy8516h ago

Why does a random remaster do that? There's going to be plenty of games that utilise it over the next 4 years. And plenty already released that will benefit from it. If you don't want one fine, but what's with all the nonsense bashing of it

jambola14h ago

it's like saying "upcoming indie game on steam proves high spec pc's are useless"

Grilla11h ago

Gotta get those clicks. Later they’ll write a “I was wrong..” for more

Chocoburger4h ago

They'll never admit that they were wrong.

TheEroica26m ago

Sony has been milking their fans with unnecessary remastered/remakes all generation. They bet their first party budgets on GaaS games and failed so to save themselves they're gonna milk their base with more of these....

ClutchManeuvers16h ago

Uhhh. I was going to write something but it's so tedious knowing that everybody will just rip me.

TheEroica25m ago

Who cares what internet people think of your thoughts... You think they're opinion is more righteous? Please.

Einhander197215h ago

There are over 8500 games that use dynamic resolution scaling and struggle to hold fps that out of the box will utilize its power.

Games are already lined up for patches and more games that haven't been announced yet will use it.

But of course talking about what it actually does won't get as many clicks.

jambola14h ago

no
it adds to your opinion
it's doesn't prove anything

and even besides that, one game wouldn't prove that anyway
that's silly

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Ads on Xbox Consoles Are Getting Worse

Ads on Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S consoles are getting worse. Over time, Microsoft has been getting more and more aggressive with ad placement on the Xbox Series X|S. Invasive ads already clutter and ruin the Xbox Series X|S dashboard, something that has been annoying Xbox fans for a while. We also know that Microsoft is reportedly exploring a tier of Xbox Game Pass that will make players watch ads in order to play games. And this ties into what Microsoft revealed last year, which was that it was looking into ways to include ads in games, something Xbox fans threatened to boycott the brand over. In the face of public backlash, Xbox has done nothing to alleviate concerns of players, it's only doubled down.

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TheNamelessOne19h ago

If they did start putting ads into games that's when I'd be done. That's ridiculous.

thorstein18h ago

They have been for decades.

Or do you mean, explicit ads that interrupt the game?

NFL 2K5 had the "Burger King Halftime Report."

BK paid them to put that in there. It's technically an ad.

TheNamelessOne18h ago

Yeah. I mean ads ads, not really product placements. I don't really mind stuff like that if it fits into the logic of the world. Hell, even Fallout originally wanted Coka-Cola in the game but didn't work out, so they went with Nuka. There's ads on billboards in a lot of racing games. That stuff doesn't bother me.

Yi-Long18h ago

I think if THAT’S your red line then you’re already lost. There shouldn’t be any ads on the console, at all.

Not at boot-up, not on the dash, not in the store, and not in the games.

It’s ridiculous.

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NotoriousWhiz8h ago

No ads in the store? Isn't that the whole point of the store?

Einhander197217h ago

Microsoft's Tim Stuart, Sarah Bond and others have said they want to add x second of ads every x amount of time of game played. (I say x because they have said various times from every 30 minutes to 2 hours and various lengths of ads from 30 seconds to minutes)

Heck they already put ads in their games on Windows.
https://windowsreport.com/a...

People need to realize Microsoft has never cared about actual gaming, it's a means to make money and gain control, the more control they have the more obnoxious they can be. That's why they want PlayStation eliminated so badly that they were willing to spend 100 billion to control what games major publishers are putting on the platform, they are the major roadblock to their control.

I have said for years it's not Microsoft keeping PlayStation in check it's PlayStation keeping Microsoft in check.

The only reason why the xbone failed was because PlayStation offered another option. If PlayStation hadn't been there they would have ignored every single complaint and just forced what they wanted.

You only have to look at how unpopular so many decisions with Windows are yet they do them anyway regardless of complaints and as time goes on they force more and more unpopular things. (and the software gets more bloated and buggy)

ChasterMies17h ago

“If they did start putting ads into games that's when I'd be done.”

Some games already have ads, but that’s besides the point. You’ve already accepted ads your Xbox. Microsoft’s job now is to get you to accept more.

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LG_Fox_Brazil18h ago

Didn't this already cause a lot of debate in the Xbox community a few months ago? They are still moving forward with the idea?

Zombieburger63817h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Imagine having to pay to play online and still getting ads shoved in your face. Consoles are cooked.

Lightning7717h ago

So let me get this straight. The writer is getting mad because MS is advertising Games? The very thing that MS sucks at doing which is advertising it's own games and third party? For a second he made it seem like a hot pockets ad would pop up when turning on the console. But it's video games that are popping up and are releasing soon.

Talk about about a none issue. Btw writer where's this "boycott" at? I don't see anyone on socials right now threatening to boycott, its simply all on your head. Especially, Especially if these ad are video games related and games that are releasing soon.

SimpleDad17h ago

Imagine turning your pc on and before log on screen you see MS Word ad across your whole screen.
Hey it fine, right?

Lightning7716h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Talk about not knowing how to read good lord. They're advertising games not word or Doritos, or nothing like that.
Tell me which ones worse. Advertising games or something none game related?

Also read the article and you'll see what he's complaining about. Go ahead.

XiNatsuDragnel14h ago

Lighting

Sounds you're coping bro

PhillyDonJawn6h ago

They're not advertising that stuff tho. It's games.

MagUk5h ago

They offering a 10 hour free trial of a game. This is outrageous 😅

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SimpleDad13h ago

Being fine with ads on Xbox game related is the same as ads on PC Word related.

But, hey I learned a new term for this and it's called... Toxic Positivity...vity...vity

Lightning7713h ago(Edited 13h ago)

You're right how dare Xbox advertise video games on their video game console. Why's that a bad thing please explain. Go ahead, exactly just stay silent, the smartest thing you've done.

Positivity? No its called a severe lack of common sense and stupidity. Willful ignorance is the number one thing that gets me heated.

@natsu coping tf are you talking about. Read the article (if you know how to read) he's complaining about game Video game ads on a video game console.

Nacho_Z12h ago

"You're right how dare Xbox advertise video games on their video game console. Why's that a bad thing please explain."

A: people have been enjoying gaming for decades without adverts and we are all used to that.

B: Everyone hates ads.

C: It's an extremely slippery slope. If people start making excuses for and suggest they're willing to accept advertising in gaming then that will be exploited to ridiculous levels in the future.

Charlieboy3339h ago

Making excuses for Xbox's bad decisions is all the Xbox zombies ever do. Their console, brand and it's games have become synonymous with mediocrity.......unrecognisabl e from the excitement and quality they possesed in the past.

Yet their fanatical fans don't seem to care, so of course MS will continue pushing the boundaries with the crap like this. You can bet your ass that in the not too distant future they will definitely have ads popping up during your gamepass game....interrupting everything just like a youtube ad. But don't worry, I'm sure they will offer a more costly 'ad free' tier for you so it will be fine.....right.

Oh and something I also predict is that one day the ONLY way to play MS games will be through gamepass. MS has already dropped physical completely for the future and you won't be able to buy digital either.

Nope, if you want play e.g.COD you are going to be forced to subscrbe for it and it won't be cheap.....I'm calling it.

Lightning778h ago

You're right let's not advertise any game related content while you're online on your console. Matter of fact let's get rid of the games section where new games are available to play so devs won't know that their game is out, or that your favorite game is available to download or in store shelves. If we're talking 360 type of ads where it was lots of none game related stuff y'all would have point big time. But getting pitchforks out over something that's game related is dumb. It's like going to a car club and getting mad that they're selling you car parts.

I would say do you hear y'all selves but no you don't, at all.

That's it, I'm the only one with a brain on here.

@charlie "Making excuses for Xbox's bad decisions is all the Xbox zombies ever do."

Seeing how you don't know what's happening or you never know what's going on especially in this article which congrats nobody else can read either because everyone's slow in here. Tell me where all the times I make excuses for Xbox go, I wanna know.

"Yet their fanatical fans don't seem to care, so of course MS will continue pushing the boundaries with the crap like this."

Advertising games on your console is bad now. I guess Nintendo and Sony are terrible to use that exact same logic.

"You can bet your ass that in the not too distant future they will definitely have ads popping up during your gamepass game....interrupting everything just like a youtube ad. But don't worry, I'm sure they will offer a more costly 'ad free' tier for you so it will be fine.....right"

MS was talking about an ad based GP tier at one point it might happen or it might not. This isn't what this articles about at all if only you did basic, simple, easy ass research such as reading the article. You'll know what's going on. So far it's all tinfoil hat that the article isn't even about. Read, if you don't how to read then get some that can read the article.

Charlieboy33310h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Except it's not just game ads....I recall ads from places like McDonalds popping up, so what's the excuse for that then hmmmmm?
Also the only place that new games should be promoted on your console is in the damn store like Playstation does. If I'm interested in what's coming up I'll go and check out the pre-order section.

Lightning778h ago

"Except it's not just game ads....I recall ads from places like McDonalds popping up, so what's the excuse for that then hmmmmm?"

Uh huh sure you did, you don't have an Xbox so how would you know? Show that proof?

Wait you actually read the article!? I didn't think it was possible on here. Finally someone on here did basic human function and its you of all ppl. I'm proud of you. I didn't think it was possible, I'm not joking either I really think it was possible. Take back what I said about you up top. Again good Job bro.

SimpleDad5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

To edit your replay:
Wait you actually don't have a brain!? I didn't think it was possible on here. Finally someone on here without basic human function and its you of all ppl. I'm proud of you. I didn't think it was possible, I'm not joking either I really thought it wasn't possible. Take back what I said about you up top. Again good Job bro.

Lightning774h ago

So you can't refute what I said or prove what I said wrong got it. It's what happens when you lack basic fundamental reading skills and comprehension. Go back to grade school, you severely need it very, very, very badly. It's what happens when you have room temperature IQ kiddo do better next time (but you won't). You also won't learn your lesson. All you had to do what simply read the article, not a hard task at all. For you and many here it is of course.

Man I just easily embarrassed you.

OldDuffer50m ago(Edited 49m ago)

There was a McDonald's advert sitting on peoples dashboards less than a month ago, or dont you care to see whats actually going on? Willfull ignorance is exactly what you are engaging in....

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RhinoGamer8817h ago

How are they going to pay Phil's mega salary peeps?!

raWfodog8h ago

And they’re likely trying to recoup more of the $70B that they paid out for their acquisition.

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The Karate Kid: Street Rumble review - Games Asylum

Games Asylum: "Despite the popularity of The Karate Kid trilogy in the ‘80s, it didn’t gain anywhere near as many gaming adaptations as the likes of Back to the Future, Star Wars, and Indiana Jones. The first film saw a considerably rough entry on the NES, published by the notorious JLN, while the Amiga and Atari ST were blessed with a reasonably well received tie-in for the sequel. It seems that by the time the third film rolled around in 1989, attention had turned to the likes of Rambo, Terminator and Predator, with many early tie-ins for the Mega Drive being more violent and gung ho. It probably didn’t help that Part III was panned by movie goers either."

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