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Xbox Live Issues Resolved by Microsoft

Metro: It finally confirmed that a fix had been found at 3.58pm PT (11.58pm BST), saying: "If you were one of the members who was having issues signing in to Xbox LIVE, good news! This issue has been fixed! Thank you so much for your patience during this time, feel free to go enjoy your favourite games and content!"

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Gazondaily4447d ago (Edited 4446d ago )

I wonder how 'hot' this article will get.

For those making knee jerk reactions about hacking etc let me douse the flames a bit seeing as, unlike quite a few trolls on here, I have a 360 and was playing most of yesterday:

* Xbox Live did not go down
* Some people had trouble signing in
* You couldn't send messages or do party chat

So yeah, and it was sorted out quite quickly because in a couple of hours, my mate who was affected by this, was back on.

But it is sad to see people get more agrees than disagrees for posting things like "God bless Anonymous". It was just wishful thinking on the part of many on here. I remember how much hatred there was for Anonymous with the PSN fiasco.

Kingdom Come4446d ago

Brilliantly said. During the PSN fiasco, I felt sorry for non-multiplatform gamers, as it meant them being incapable of experiencing the online component of the latest releases, where at the potential risk of loosing credit card details and much more.

Sony fanboys have reacted both over-enthusiastically and immaturely to this massively over-hyped situation. It's quite pathetic...

Being a multiplatform gamer, I tend to remain calm regarding scenarios such as this, as I always have my other console to fall back on, however, if both Microsoft and Sony where to (God forbid) be hacked, I wouldn't wish the same fate on Nintendo.

Ezz20134446d ago (Edited 4446d ago )

i do agree that fanboys take things too far
but you have to admit xbox fanboys laughed at every ps3 owner when psn hack happend and said how Much live is safe and no one can hack it
and now xbox live took a warning attack from those same guys
they said they are the one behind that hack BTW
http://www.gamefocus.ca/new...
https://twitter.com/Anonymo...
and it don't seem like this will be their last attack

every one at one point will have to eat a humble pie

it just show that no online is safe from them
it wasn't MS nor Sony's fault
those guys can hack any thing in the world
i hope they get arrested and this thing is over

EDIT: i didn't give you disagree by the way...you know i have nothing but respect for you even when we disagree

EDIT 2 : they are not the one who shut down PSN for a month
it was Sony them self
Sony took it down to protect the customers untill they make PSN more secure
http://blog.us.playstation....
they are the one who did the warning attack to xbox Live

like i said i hope they get arrested and things like that never happen again

Gazondaily4446d ago

Well any fanboys who supported the hack on PSN got shot down pretty quickly and certainly didn't get more agrees than disagrees. Only Sony fanboys can get away with that on here but I guess it's our responsibility to continue reporting them until a mod does something.

It is is interesting to note however, that if this was an Anonymous attack, they couldn't even bring the service down; only stop some people signing in and send messages for a couple of hours as opposed to bringing a service to its knees for a month. But, like I've said before, I'm skeptical about Anonymous' involvement in this.

xPhearR3dx4446d ago

Ummm dude, in that Twitter link you posted he clearly says you are easily trolled.....meaning, he never did anything. Not to mention, this is the real Anonymous Twitter and they stated themselves they have no idea what happened.

https://twitter.com/YourAno...

Ezz20134446d ago (Edited 4446d ago )

seems like it was FAKE...there was no attack at all
it not them as you said @Septic
https://twitter.com/YourAno...

@xphearr3dx
yes you are right it was not them and there is no attack....my mistake
sorry guys

Gazondaily4446d ago (Edited 4446d ago )

No need to apologise. Yeah I thought so. Ah well, the rumour bar was wrong again, contrary to the wishes of many ;-)

xAlmostPro4446d ago

Just because it didn't go down (as in all services). Doesn't mean it wasn't hacked. According to them anonymous members that carried out the attack, they used a huge botnet attack. Meaning the traffic would have caused a DOS.

Which makes sense considering the ability to sign-in/send messages etc was lost, not just to some people, to hundreds of thousands by the way.

The worrying part is the anonymous members who carried this out gave a warning about card details, urging users to remove them.. this is the scary part. Because They have(if true) been able to access details and where Sony took the PSN offline to stop this, MS have ignored this and decided to put it back online and only fix the cause.

If it turns out card details have been taken, they'll have to consider taking it down and doing a re-build like Sony did with the PSN. They can't keep an exploit alive, that's just crazy.

However i do agree, fanboys bragging or supporting it are out of hand. Jokes are fine but using it for flame wars is daft. It's never fun to pay for a service that has issues.

Ezz20134446d ago

i don't understand......there was a hack or there wasn't ?! and who did that attack ??
because
Anonymous say they didn't hack it
https://twitter.com/YourAno...

Zepherite4446d ago (Edited 4446d ago )

If it was a DDOS attack, that is not a hack. To have 'Hacked' something you need to gain access to it. A DDOS attack does precisely the opposite and stops anyone gaining access, legitimately or otherwise, by increasing traffic so much it overloads the server.

Anonymous have posted on their twitter, that it wasn't them and Microsoft haven't even said anything yet. For all we KNOW (as everything at the moment is pure speculation) there may never have been a hack or DDOS attempt at all. It could just be a small issue on Microsoft's side. It's happened before and been quickly fixed, no hacking involved.

I'm going to wait until I receive some concrete FACTS, before I go comment on what has happened.

ijust2good4446d ago

I was denied my CoD prescription and i demand compensation for this downtime.

Animal Mutha 764446d ago

I could not sign in last night at all from around 9pm GMT so yeah for me it was down. Quite unusual to have any issues here in UK but the service alert page kept us in the loop. Not tried this morning yet as the grand prix gets preference :))

Intentions4446d ago

Pretty much this.

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Maybe it was an "Always online test to see if if works for next gen for not", if it was then it failed. GG

Jokes.

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nukeitall4446d ago (Edited 4446d ago )

Apart from all the mis-information, but if you look at MS excellent XBL service, you realise why.

From the article:

*2.56pm PT: Microsoft stated that some users may have experienced connection delays, but added that it is "still hard at work fixing the issue".

*3.38pm PT: MS said: "There is still an issue members are having signing in to Xbox LIVE, we greatly appreciate you sticking it out with us while we work as hard as we can to get this problem fixed. Keep checking back here every 30 minutes for another update on our progress."

*3.58pm PT: MS says: "If you were one of the members who was having issues signing in to Xbox LIVE, good news! This issue has been fixed! Thank you so much for your patience during this time, feel free to go enjoy your favourite games and content!"

F*** that, how freakin fast do you fix a service? Within an hour, MS located, fixed the problem and updated the consumer 3 times.

None of the company's I have experience with does it that fast with that many status updates.

MikeMyers4446d ago (Edited 4446d ago )

This is why having Major Nelson is also a key component to Xbox Live. It feels very much a community with lots of feedback. With that said this was perfect timing as all the rumors are still floating around about the next Xbox requiring a constant connection. This just exacerbates the issue of how things can go haywire at any time and having a system whos basic function requires being connected can be a bad thing.

Just imagine when we all do our banking online and there are no more tellers/cashiers and the system goes down. It will be chaos.

nukeitall4446d ago

@MikeMyers:

This isn't PSN going down for a month here nor is gaming the need all be all.

That said, always online doesn't necessarily mean that to play games you have to be online. It could very well mean something else, but why overreact until we know the truth and I doubt the truth is what everybody is overreacting too.

MikeMyers4446d ago

Nobody is over-reacting, at least I'm not. What I am saying is these hiccups if you will makes an always on system seem very risky for a game console. When you pay $15 a month to play Onlive or watch Netflix movies that's one thing but paying $400 for a system plus all the software will annoy people a lot more if they can't access it. Even if it's a few hours or a few days.

Good_Guy_Jamal4446d ago

Wow this article has been buried by the negative false rumors already! Not that I'm suprised, since N4G enjoys negative Xbox press way more than the actual truth.
Bottomline, Xbox was not hacked.
We could still log in and game online.
90% of applications and services were up and running
Our information was not compromised.

Root4446d ago

Well I heard it was hacked.....this guy has even admitted it because he wants to free Lulzsec members

https://twitter.com/Channel...

Look at his Twitter.,..the guy is admitting it and some OTHER Anonymous members have been helping/praising him

Remember Anonymous is not just one person....

Hingle_Mcringleberry4446d ago

Nobody cares what you heard Root, because we all know you wish it were true so you'll obviously want to believe it was hacked.

Root4446d ago

Why would I want that....please stop being so childish. I'm just pointing it out because want to know if it's true or not.

Honestly one bubble trolls like you should just be ignored.

T24446d ago

@septic - you make some good points but if xbox live wasnt down but I couldnt sign in, is there a point ? Just sayin

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Cocozero4446d ago

Anon must be either getting sloppy or MS got a very good backup system. I personally wasn't even affected but those who were had no connection for just a couple of hours unlike a month like some hacks.

I guess you get what you pay for eh :p

xAlmostPro4446d ago

Or MS completely disregarded the warnings about card details and where as Sony brought the service down to stop the compromise, microsoft have decided they will just risk it, to get online quicker.

Meaning some hackers could be sat on a bunch of card details and microsoft aren't giving a shit about it. Not only that but going back up so quickly(when according to the hackers DOS was part of the attack) they have left exploits open for hackers who may decide to re-visit.

Gimmemorebubblez4446d ago

Well at least it's back online.

Why o why4446d ago

I cant get into sky player. Its saying I don't have the station's. Going to have to reinstall and reset password as I've forgotten it. Local time 13.18 gmt

oof464446d ago

I haven't played all day. If I hadn't come on here, I wouldn't have known it was down.

aviator1894446d ago

same here. by the time I had gotten back from some b-ball at the park, everything worked how it should.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain15d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198115d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK14d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts14d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK14d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT17d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits17d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel117d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic17d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN16d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel116d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica17d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14916d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga16d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania17d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts17d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7717d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7717d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts17d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7717d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb16d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow17d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor17d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate9124d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa7824d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer24d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio24d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate9124d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis23d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX24d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn24d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX24d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto24d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog24d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

**btw, I'm talking about street food vendors, just in case there's any confusion!

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Lightning7724d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio24d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning7724d ago (Edited 24d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx24d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning7724d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole24d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio23d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs24d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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