GDC: 360 has sold 18m units worldwide

Microsoft's GDC keynote speaker, John Schappert, says that Xbox 360 has now sold more than 18 million units worldwide.

[TheHater]

Wait did they announce that they ship 17.5 million units world wide at the end of December? And they claim to have shortage during January, and February. So how exactly did they sold 18 millions units? I think he might have made a mistake, and was referring to unit shipped, and not sold.

[Seraphim]

that's still only 5ook worldwide. Which isn't really that much considering it's a world wide number... I'm not saying that in a bad way. I'm simply saying that it's certainly possible...

My question is. How many units are actually in homes? With such a high failure rate on the 360 and so many people buying 2, 3 even 4 or more consoles it makes me wonder how many are actually out there, in homes, in working condition. Certainly a number MS doesn't care about because the more sold the merrier for them...

btw: I do own a 360 and PS3 and love them both. I'm actually thinking about upgrading to an Elite soon. But there's no arguing that the failure rate has boosted sales...

[TheHater]

But I was talking that it is possible for them to ship 18 million consoles. But MS claim to sold/have 18 million units in homes across the world.

Dude you should upgrade to an Elite...well if you have the money too. I find the Elite to be the better version of the 360 and it they one I got.

[uxo22]

How can anyone argue this, Sony lowered their forcast to 9.5 and then a month later claimed to have sold 10.5 million. And started boasting that they got to 10 million 4 months ahead of forcast.

No one cried foul, but the minute MS claims 18mln sold, 10,000 inspector gadgets show up and start whining. What a double standard.

I think Sony and MS know what they have sold, so how can some household couch potato that can't even manage his check book (Generally speaking, not aimed an anyone in particular) contest their sells and earnings.

WOW!

[SSCOOLCHEA]

Sony is the only company who reports unit sold , and mciro reports unit shipped...disagree xbox you know its true because its been reported everywhere even your xbox magazine EGM

[darthv72]

wouldnt it be technically that shipped to stores is also sold? Considering that stores purchase them from MS to resell so that would imply that the "sold" is in fact sold. If it leaves MS factory to the stores and $$ has changed hands then they wouldnt really be wrong.

Now there should be a new graph calld "Purchased" where by it shows exactly that. Purchased units by consumers.

[gamesblow]

So he sold 2 million units in a week. Look out wii... "rolls eyes"

[Dann7978]

Thats it PS3 is picking up and we dont even have our Triple AAA titles Yeah were gonna pass you this year

[pwnmaster3000]

the mart wat will happen when ps3 gets price cut and metal gear solid, grad turismo, killzone 2, whitekight story and tekken 6 come out what happens then. you think sony wont do a price cut and when it does with all the big games come out is over you will probably have a ps3 to

[TrevorPhillips]

woow this is gonna be tough between the ps3 and the 360

[jwatt]

It says "I think that we've sold 18 million" sounds unsure. It's probably 18 million anyways.

[uxo22]

Come on, you should have learned this in the sixth grade, if you are going to quote someone, you should use the entire quote; not just the part that benefits you. The quote actually read

"I think that we've sold 18 million, the last time I've checked. 18 million hardware units worldwide,"

Notice the part about the last time I've checked which actually implies that he did check and he say 18 million.

[Anything but Cute]

When they said PS3 sold 10.5 million, it was also shipped.

That's how it works. When they sell it to retailers, it's as good as sold to them.

Last time they said they had shipped 17.7 million. So this is no surprise.

Disagree with me all you want. That's just the way it is. PS3 fans want to believe that when Sony says it, they mean sold to customers, and when Microsoft says it, that's it's shipped.

XBOX 360 fans want to believe that when Microsoft says it, it's sold to customers and when Sony says it, it's shipped.

But they both always mean shipped.

[Cyrus365]

No Sony as last fiscal reports, reports only SOLD to consumers, not retailers.

They use to report Sales as in Sales to retailers..

Both Sony and Nintendo reports their sales as, sales to consumers. I believe Microsoft is the only on the reports Sold as in "Sold to retailers".

[crck]

Sony used to then they switched to recorded sales early last year. Nintendo has always done recorded sales.

[Anything but Cute]

If you know that for a fact, then I take it back.

"Sony only reports sold to customers."

I'm a PS3 fan anyway. So better for me.

[deeznuts]

Cyrus, have you actually read the fiscal reports or are you just repeating other peoples interpretations of it?

Because I have, and all it says is they have changed reporting from production shipments to recorded sales. Nowhere does it say this means recorded sales to consumers. How does Sony record sales for mom and pop shops across the world who sell PS3s? You ever been to a South East Asian country? I have, and some places that sell electronics, ironically, wouldn't know a barcode scanner if you hit them in the face.

Sony has changed reporting from finished product leaving their factory (production shipments) to sales to all resellers across the globe. This might not mean much, but as anybody even remotely experienced in business or finance would know, this is a huge different in accounting.

And I am a Sony fan. But not a blind fanboy.

[actas123]

@Deeznut:
in the business world the phrase "recorded sales" means number of units sold to consumers.
@Cyrus:
Thanx for clarifying things out man. Its always good to read knowledgeable peoples comments.

[Gina-get-u]

That's so not true. Different types of businesses use different methods of cost accounting, which affects when a sale is "recorded" on the ledger and/or reported to the government for sales tax purposes. Even within the same industry "recorded sales" can mean different things among sellers, depending on how they choose to count things.

Anyway Deeznuts is correct. I've commented on the same thing before so I won't repeat myself.

[deeznuts]

actas123, oh yeah? and what business are you in to make such a statement? please indulge me.

I work in the securities industry, reading, analyzing financial reports, statements, SEC edgar filings all day every day. you're telling me "recorded sales" always means sold to consumers? how does a parts manufacturer who only sells to factories have recorded sales, if their product never reaches an end user as it leaves their own factory?

And you did nothing to refute my statement about how Sony is going to go about recording a sale throughout the world. The world isn't like the US. You must see to believe the electronics market in developing countries. The only truly reliable data Sony has is what they collect money on, sold to resellers.

And one last thing. Sold to Resellers is ALWAYS going to be higher than sold to consumers. Shipped from factory is always going to be higher than sold to resellers (but is not an accurate measure of revenue). Why would Sony or MS or Nintendo use a lower number, which is not going to be as accurate, to report their financial well-being. Common sense people, millions if not billions of dollars are made or lost with these financial reports. Corporations are greedy and self-serving, they're going to want to report the higher number if allowed by GAAP.

[uxo22]

Please provide information on how they track the data from individual retailers all over the world. Also explain how they get all of those millions of retailers to comply with this procedure. Then explain how they collect and manage all of this data in a timely matter.

It's easy for me to sell something to 100 people and tell you how many I sold to them. But know how many they sold after they recieved them from me would be a whole other game in itself.

I don't buy the statement that Sony and Nintendo are tracking sold to customers. It just isn't cost effective.

[TrevorPhillips]

yeh i guess ur right and plz no more disagree i had enough of them for today before i wrote a comment saying "yeh i guess your right" and 2 people disagreed with me lol :)

[gamesR4fun]

sorry cant help it when ever i see a dont disagree....

Ill give u bubble to make up for it tho ;)

[Cartesian3D]

I think this shippment amount will be enough for this year.. according to their sale numbers to consumers even in US..

lol JK !

anyway thats marketing .. who will find out it was 17.831 ... we can say MORE than 18million sold! sold to who?

[jiinn]

Yeah, your probably soo right.

MS probably hasnt sold any -- they're just lying about it!

Hahahah! PS3 4 eva!

[TrevorPhillips]

specifically im a 360fanboy but i rekon ps3 will sell more then 360 and wii and it will be better graphics then 360 by next yr

[Blademask]

LOL.. ONLY AFTER 2 YEARS

[TheMART]

Well that's still 9 mln. a year. The PS3 sold about the same in one year and PS3 fanboys keep forgetting:

the 360 is still 8 to 9 mln. ahead in sales. Please account for me, how many years will it take for the PS3 to catch up? Because even if they sell 100k a month world wide more, in one year they only catch up 1.2 mln.

So roughly 8 years then before they are on par. Well lets say they sell 200k a month more. Still 4 years before they're on par.

Let's face it: the PS3 at best can get even this life cycle. Although a price drop on the 360 PRemium to 279 or 299 Euro/Dollar in combination with main hardware drivers like Gears of War 2 and GTAIV the most complete version, Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, Too Human, Splinter Cell: Conviction is likely to outsell the PS3 or at least sell on par with it. So no catching up there then

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[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

:)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Ahahaha I can see the droids red angry faces about to pop.

Time for SDF to activate.

[TheHater]

weren't you the one who was b!tching that sony didn't sold 10.5 million units, that it was ship. And now you are saying the opposite for MS. now isn't that ironic.

Edit: @3.4 (Jason 360)
Click on my profile, and then tell me to take off my "Sony" glasses again. I was just pointing out the facts that you spread you legs wide open when MS say something. But when Nintendo or Sony say some, they are lying.

[Ri0tSquad]

Lol, why am I not surprised?

[pwnsause]

18million in 2 years with a system at a 300 to 400 dollar range is pathetic.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I have not said one word about "shipped" or "sold" in this thread. Now take off your Sony glasses... and clean em, because they are so dirty you can't read.

[PMR_21]

360 & HD-DVD 4 the win

suck on that Sony Defence Force

bwhahhahahahaha

deeznuutz have spoken

[TrevorPhillips]

see its like this to be honest 360 has better software but ps3 has better hardware u get what im saying both consoles has something good

[TheHater]

I agree. Sony have the better hardware, and MS have the better software as of today. But later this year, Sony will have software that are equal or even better than MS, and will also have the better Hardware. MS really need to build their system better.

[wow4u]

But, now that MS has fixed the heat issue with motherboard and component changes, I think you're conslusion is false.

Further, even if you do have one of the earlier, heat-fail prone boxes, you still get to enjoy the software ie: the gameplay and fun.

The failure rate isnt nearly as large as some would like -- even the 3rd party warranty company said it is "around half of 16%", and MS saw that as wrong enough to issue a statement.

If someone does get a failure, Microsoft has extended the warranty and takes care of the problem.

I'm not worried about it.

[Anything but Cute]

In the past 2 or 3 months, PS3 has been outselling 360 worldwide. By a small margin.

Next time we hear from Sony, they will say they have sold 11 million. They could have that by the end of the month.

the 360 will be conquered.

[sak500]

Thats due to to the movie watching public. Software sales on ps3 suk big time. PS3 is only bought in huge number for watching movies, now that HD is dead so expect more numbers to increase. This doesnt necessarily mean people will be buying more software.

[wow4u]

"according to vgchartz"

According to vgchartz, they have underestimated the Xbox 360 install by 1,000,000 consoles.

According to this Microsoft Executive -- WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS WTF HE'S TALKING ABOUT -- vgchartz is broken.

And, MS has sold over 18,000,000 consoles. And, are actually having shortages again due to demand.

[PopEmUp]

That just killed me. 18 Millions sold to retailer uh yeah that right, and including and average consumers who brought 2 or 3 360 because of RROD but not to mention there also some consumer who brought up to 7 360, so that probably count as well so that nice figure there

[lawman1108]

Keep telling yourself they do and that is why the 360 has such a huge lead on the PS3 if it makes you feel better but the fact is they do not.

[TrevorPhillips]

guy just calm down ok im a 360 fanboy and i do admit ps3 will sell more then 360 ok dont get me wrong but its true

[MaximusPrime]

in that 18m, 90% will sooner or later get RRoD

[pwnsause]

well lets be realistic here lets use real numbers whats the current RROD rate %20 percent. lets calculate the install base with the percentage of broken xboxes and see what we get:

18million xbox 360s x %20 or .20 = 3,600,000 xbox 360s broken.

before it was at %30 percent, but I cant calculate that due to the fact that we need the actual sales at the time when that was released, but you can imagine what 30 percent is already, thats over 1 quarter of the install base, thats ridiculous.

i mean just compare the wii and PS3 install base with broken systems they are currently at around %1 so:

round 21.65 to approx 22 million wiis

22million (approx number from VGchartz) wiis X %1 or .01 = about 220000 broken wiis, thats acutally nothing

10.5 million PS3s (acutal number from sony) X .01 = 105000 broken PS3s

you got to remember that as the install base grows the number of broken systems break as well.

[PumPum]

Looks like MS is using VGchartZ for their numbers xD.
MS reports shipped, Sony and Nintendo sold to customers FACT!

[fishd]

18 mil - 6 mil(30% failure anyone?) =12mil(at most!)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

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[tweaker]

haha. thats pretty funny.

[jiinn]

Yeah! hhahah Microsoft can't even count ha ha ha.

Every time someone logs into Xbox LIVE they probably count that as a sale too! ha ha ha.

[gEnKiE]

I'm not being a fanboy or anything but thats a big difference in sales especially since they've been throwing out the fact of them having shortages....oh well

[Bathyj]

And 6 million broke.

[gEnKiE]

ya, their probaly counting the units they ship back to the customers that send in their bricked 360s too....

[kevoncox]

They sold appx 220K in January...
What's so hard to beleive?

[nomad117]

That there was a shortage. -_-

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

SARCASM

[eagle21]

Last week they sold 1,790 in Spain.... less than 4k in Japan...do you see where I am going...lol

[ReBurn]

And we all know that Spain is the determining factor in the console war.

[Bladestar]

mmmm... how strange... xbox 360 haters... trying to undermind this news... mmmm... "uhh.. uhhh.. no! [kicking screaming]... no! thatzz [saliva comes out of mouth] shipped not sold!" thought it obviously says, "Sold"... but when Sony says sold it means sold.. but when microsoft says sold it means shipped...

hehe... do you know why most companies go by shipped and not by sold to the consumer?

Do you know why NPD and VGC admit that are not accurate and does not include all "Sold to the consumer"? (damn.. should have to state the obvious)... because they are not able to gather sells data from each retail stores... if I remember correctly they are only able to capture 60%-70%...

So, let me guess... you actually think that Sony is connected directly to all retails stores (even mom and pops small shops) database and they are able to receive notices everytime 1 console is sold?

hah! NPD and VGC are freaken stupid then... how come instead of them spending such more time collecting only 60%-70% of data from major retail stores they just don't ask Sony to give them magical tracking system.

You see... (again this is obvious) companies like Sony, microsoft and nintendo are only able to tell accuraly what they ship to retail stores... and what's funny about this.. is that some companies buy consoles wholesale and resell them to smaller retail stores... so, let me guess.. Sony system connectes to the whole seller buyer which in term connect to the 2nd retail buyer which probably resell to another store... and Sony magical system can tell when the end user buy it.... mmm... yeah!... sure...

Please... tell me.. I am a software developer who write various POS for electronic retail stores and I can tell you retail stores are not require to send sells data to hardware manufacturers for the simple fact that they may not even be buying directly from Sony... nor Sony may have any knowledge of which company or electronic store their consoles will endup.. hense why NPD is only able to account for 60% of the hardware being distributed...

So, tell me... one of you ... where does Sony get these numbers... please I am waiting give me a logical explanation on how Sony tracking system works...

[Horny]

there is a fairy hidden in the console, when you hook it up in your living room and go to bed at night it comes out and flies to Phil Harrison to report the sale.

[eagle21]

No need to lie. 1,790 in Spain last week....less than 4k in Japan last week? Seriously..lol

[Gazman]

Makes you wonder what percentage in the 18mill work because mine has been sent away twice for repairs.

[CrazzyMan]

and now in 6 week 300k more?
wow, Nice job! em.. Not really. =)))

[wow4u]

No. You have reading comprehension issues.

They have sold over 18 Million by today, becuase this person said it was over 18M when he checked -- at some point in the past.

I dont know what problem you have.

It could be many more than 18 M by today frankly.

[FirstknighT]

Looks like the 360 is already way ahead of the original Xbox.

[sak500]

Agreed and it will be much more successful this gen and coming in 1st in next gen gaming and second in this gen consoles.

[heyheyhey]

so thats a whopping 18 mil who got screwed with defective hardware

[lawman1108]

I own 2 360's (an Elite and a Pro) and a PS3 I have owned over 100 360 games and 6 (six) PS3 games. That right there speaks volumes, I want each system to have great games and thrive but I still belive Sony made a BR dvd player First and a game system second.

[TheMART]

Well, as everybody has 3 years of warranty, at least till late 2008 ALL 360's that would brake down are replaced or repaired.

Microsoft has solved their problems with the 65nm chipset, so everyone with a 360 gets it replaced. So that'll be 18 mln. units out there used (minus those that hacked it and lost warranty)

[Superiorrior]

Has solved there problem with RROD? Solve there problem? Clearly this young swine has been hit with Microsoft's ever extending d!ck in the face, and now has lost his memory. Did you pay attention to GDC? Yeah, they we're displaying the RROD as a feature, dude don't be a tool.

[riksweeney]

>GDC: 360 has shipped 18m units worldwide

There, fixed it for you

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

When Microsoft says "shipped" they mean shipped to retailers but when they say "sold" they mean sold to consumers. When Sony says "sold" the mean sold to retailers (under their new policy) and they never mentioned the shipped.

The number of "sold" was 17.7 in December, for some of you to assume they didn't sell 300k in two months is realy making you look ______fill in the blank. When Microsoft said 10 million last year, they said "shipped" but Sony changed thier so called policy and never mentions shipped anymore. Why do you think that is?

[wow4u]

*Right* because you know what the hell your talking about. All these people "oh, shipped, vs. retail, vs. sold, vs. this, vs. that" are just talking out of their anus-hole.

Just like you.

The man said last time he checked they'd sold 18M. Another said they are having shortages.

Youre opinion of this fact is immaterial.

Remember, opinions are like arseholes, and all that...

[Sovannah Phum]

i wonder if they count the refurbs they ship to people as replacements for their broken consoles as "shipped" or "sold."

[ReBurn]

I doubt that they re-count the refurbs in any capacity. They should have been counted as sold once and future repairs just come out of the rotating pool.

[wow4u]

I wonder if you'd be better off spreading your trolls ->

[ReBurn]

I think the bickering is crazy. Think about it. There are reports that the 360's supply chain is constricted and there aren't any in stores. Then Microsoft says 18 million have been sold. So if everything that was in stores has been sold wouldn't the 18 million 360's be in customers' hands?

[celticlonewolf]

Still have this thought that when sony says sold it means to consumers? To make it simple when they give these stats its for the purpose of showing how much income they have made for that qauter or year or when ever they realise it from a certain item. Sony gets it money from retail not from the comsumer, the store shop retail what ever gets that money. Think about it if sony was to take the time and find out those stats ofr sold to costumer whats in it for them? One it would show less of a number(cause stores generally dont sell out everywhere and there is surplus there). Two it doesnt matter to sony anyway cause they have had there money from retail and has no effect on there financial outcome. I wish I could fin the interview wheer sony actually cleard this up and stated that when they say sold its to retail. All these people keep saying that its to consumer yet I havent read any single source, reliable source lol thats says otherwise. Anyway I think 18mil sold is also to retail to :P

[Coke-a-Cola]

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[harpua]

poor x-kiddies, so bitter about losing another console war.

[texism]

The console wars just barely started you dipsh!t.

[NexGen76]

360 isn't going to outsell PS3 for long & you should have known that from the beginning.360 sells good in the US but not worldwide as we see so stop with the number twisting games & accept the fact that 360 is going to be the 3rd best selling console.

[Trinity_Marc_Blu]

Agreed

[rmedtx888]

Half of them have RRoD.

[DFresh]

Maybe from numbers but how many of them actually work?
33% Failure rate
18 million divided by 3 (1/3)
Now were at 12 million.
But what about the people that bought more than one console after they got the RROD?
I think the real numbers of working consoles stand at 10 million.
Sony already sold 10.5 million and the year isn't over for them.
None of the big titles are out yet and yet they outsold the 360 last year by 2 million.
That's cute.
Sony FTW!!!!!!!!!

[NextGen24Gamer]

He clearly said that the xbox 360 has sold "More Than" 18 million consoles. Its not that complicated of a quote to grasp. Whats with all the spin and negativity?

It could be 18.8 million. The shortages of xbox 360 consoles the beginning of 2008 is well documented. Whats the big deal? Typically in the after christmas quarter (3 months) the xbox 360 sells between 1 million and 1.7 million consoles total. So its very possible that Jan and half of Feb the 360 has only sold 700k or less. But who really cares and why is it such a hottly debated topic?

Microsoft says it has SOLD MORE THAN 18 million consoles worldwide. That is great news. I was browsing EB games.com to see what new games are releasing THIS year 2008 for both my Ps3 and my xbox 360...and I was surprised to see more AAA titles coming on the xbox360 than the Ps3. I honestly thought that 2008 would be the year of the Ps3. But, what I see is the 360 still going unbelievably strong. This is the 360's 3rd year and they are set to outsell what the original xbox did in its whole life cycle with ease. If the Wii continues selling at the rate it has.....it will sell 100 million in 5 years. WOW...who would have thought? By the time the next xbox launches I see the 360 selling a total of 35 million consoles....and the Ps3 selling 28 million consoles.

[patrick1455]

Why do all of you waste your time over these numbers ? Does it matter at all ? All I give a damn about are the games , so if microsoft sold 10 million consoles or 80 million it does nothing for me. GAMES are all I give a crap about.

[wallace1000]

Dude you just took the words out of my mouth. I own a 360 and does microsoft selling 18 million matter to me (checks stock holdings), no. If it really matters to someone having the number one selling gaming machine, then go buy a DS for $100-$130 and you are set :-P

[jiinn]

I agree. Im just waiting for Final Fantasy. Then best game evar.

That Lost Odyssey, Last Remnant nor Infinite Undiscovery (triACE? whocares?!??!1?!) can even compare 0.1% to how great Final Fantasy is gauranteed to be.

And, i dont care if it is delayed unil 2010. I just know Xbox 360 isnt going to get it because Square Enix only likes Sony and the PSTriple.

[witchking]

Who freakin' cares? Both 360 and PS3 are going to do well in this generation, each has its share of extremely fun exclusive games. So play them!

[ELite_Ghost]

Didnt they say they sold 17 million on E3 or something?

[Citizen Cook]

Its al over for Sony now. This year M$ have Gears 2 Fable 2 etc...
System sellers people.

HA HA HA HA!

[pwnsause]

yea luckly the same can be said about the PS3:
Resistance 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
Little Big Planet
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue
Infamous
Haze
Killzone 2
FFXIII
Tekken 6
the Getaway 2
Socom Confontation
White Knight Chronicles
Afrika
The Agency
Eight Days
Eyedentify
Star Ocean 4
and more so PS3 has system sellers to the 100th power.

[ELite_Ghost]

LMAO 2 GAMES DON'T MEAN SHeT

[Salta_nelas]

That´s pretty lame for a console two years in the market...i mean the Wii is haead in one year and the PS3 has already sold 10 M in one year too...and this year it will sell even more, specially in Japan.

[texism]

No, it isn't. You don't understand how products work. New things sell a lot until they reach saturation point. The 360 has been out for longer, and it is simply getting closer to saturation point. The PS3 is younger, so it is still on the rising curve. And the Wii...well...the Wii is just defying logic.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

love the word attach rate.. next system will be call the xbot-attach-rate

[RAM MAGNUMS]

But how many people actually have one that works? Listen, When you buy a box for cheap and you play the games you have no worries until about maybe 2-3 months. Then you better start to take notice to what the machine is doing. You better start talkin it through the loading of xbox live and games. Because, you're time is limited. And god forbid you play for long hours cause its not that your xbox might break its that it will break! Software is the true drug of gaming and xbox in game features. Together they can bring alot of customer support but when you get red ringed or scratched disc or even freezing then its time to stop supporting that system and support the crossever to sony's playstation 3. With your customer support sony can have the small dev teams and great games and beat M$oft like they did with blu-ray. It will be a sudden death of a broken system in that respect. MAGNUM-RAM HAS SPOKEN...

[joeynox]

argue all you want . None of these companies actually know how many have been sold. Its all guesstimated,theres no actualway to track them all. I live in the bronx and have a ton a of local game stores. They get stuff from here and there and theres no way they can track it especially the places that dont charge sales tax cuz they fall off the truck * wink* ps3 /360 games for $40 :)

[TrevorPhillips]

we cant always complain that ohh 360 will sell more no ps3 will sell more no wii will sell more we just have to wait and see until the end of this generation consoles which is 2010 or 2011.

[blade206]

mart all those games will not sell the 360 halo was the game to sell the system and as all of you 360 fans like to point out the ps3 has no games but it at near 11 mil and when the the mainstream games come out it will pass up the 360 it's over

[ddamaged1]

so that makes 14million? with 6million not having online and 8million(this number from knowing how many people are on xbox live actually working, the xbox is doing poor peoples xboxs who have broken have had to buy another one heck 4 so do the math the ps3 actually now officially has a higher install base poor 360 :{

[pwnmaster3000]

whoa is it 3 years now 18 million wow good job 360 to bad wii is in is wat 1 or 2nd and it beat it and look at ps3 1st year and wat 10 million+ and 360 had 1 year with wat no compatition. so i dont what u xbots happy about thats bad and what r u guys talking about 360 will destroy ps3 this year. ps3 outsold 360 last year with all of its big hits out and ps3 barely had games and yeah cut 16% or 33% in the 18 million what do you get

[davez82]

Hm 30% failure rate times 18million. Also some people had to buy 2 consoles.

[aggh im on fire]

No, microsoft doesnt count broken xbox returns. Otherwise lets face it it would be more like 25mill.
And just a note: i went through 5 PS2's in 6 years... maybe that equates to there 100+million sales.