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Digital Downloads Are Not About To Kill Blu-Ray

With Toshiba's announcement that it is to cease manufacture of HD DVD players, the High-Definition format wars are now over. With Blu-Ray left standing, some, such as Rob Beschizza at Wired are now saying that digital downloads will now kill Blu-Ray.

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gamesblow6332d ago

Yeah, an Super 8 is making a huge comeback. Please... These idiots get paid for these opinions. Can you believe this? It's insulting to say the very least.

Digital downloads are about 5 years out from becoming normal and about 7 to 8 years from becoming standard. There is a whole community of middle class and poor who cannot afford blu-ray, let alone high speed connections and LCD HDTV's to go along with them. They can, however, afford DVd's and rentals and wal-mart bargain bin movies.

They also make up the bulk of the money going into the industry... Cause when you have money and you're well to do you're not always buying movies on a regular basis. You're out doing things that don't apply to sitting on your ass. When you're middle class and below you do.

So when you can make it easier to download HD content for those people... Tell me about how DD is going to kill of BD. mmmkay?

Right now, and I have one of the best connections you can get, it still takes me longer to download my content than it would for me to go to the store and buy it. I.E. movies.

Xbox lives digital distribution is slow and painful. It's not there and we're not ready. Sorry.

Blu-ray will be standard for the next 8 years. Deal with it and cry about it later.

rofldings6332d ago

Uh, I don't think you read the title of the article correctly. :P

"Digital Downloads Are ~Not~ About To Kill Blu-Ray"

Iron Man 26332d ago

Why have something digitaly when you can have something phisically which is better?

$niper

GlossGreen6332d ago

Darksnipa. I hate digital music. My files end up corrupted and then don't play correctly. I would hate for the same thing to happen with a game, that incidentally, has a lot more information at risk. A line of code gets deleted or substantially altered, and there goes your game. I'll stick to disks, thank you very much.

InYourMom6332d ago (Edited 6332d ago )

I wish I could carry 25 CD's and a CD walkman when I go jogging instead of an MP3 player. I don't mind the skipping or the fact that my disc's get scratched up, it's just I like being able to hold the disc in my hand's.

/sarcasm

whengeeksgobad6332d ago (Edited 6332d ago )

most people download their music. Physical copies aren't going anywhere but it's nice to have options. @gloss green: I don't know where you are getting your music from but I cannot say my experience is the same as yours. Poorly encoded music will sound like garbage.
We are talking about movies as opposed to games as well.

I always seem to end up arguing the same thing about digital downloads here, but I always read the same articles so I guess I'll just spit it out again:

I have 600+ dvds and I am running out of shelf space. I can plug my 1TB mybook into my 360 and it holds 170 HD .wmv's that look nearly as good as my BR and HD-DVD hard copies. The obvious benefit of saving shelf space is there, and it's easier to play something thats already local to the machine as opposed to walking across the living room, looking at all the dvd's, putting the last dvd I had in there back in its case and then put the new on in. No, it doesn't take too much time at all but it is more convenient to play it direct from source as opposed to doing this. These are just a few reasons why I like the digital versions. I like my dvd's/hd-dvd's and BR discs as well, but options and competition are nice. Most people here seem almost afraid of a digital copy, I'm not sure why. HD failure? yes, it does happen. If it was that terrifying to everyone though, why trust your computers HD for anything? People make it sound like HDD's are all prone to failure any day of any second and that you should run away screaming. I've built a lot of computers in my day and the HDD's often outlast most other components in the machines. Ram and PSU's die far more often than my HDD's do. Image quality not as good? In some cases, yes but a properly encoded file can look much better than an upconverted 480p/i source, again - nearly as good as the physical copy, which IMO is NOT worth the $30 - $35 dollars they are charging for these days.

@in your mom: lolz

rofldings6332d ago (Edited 6332d ago )

Yeah, InYourMom. They need to invent a way so you can stick your CD in your PC and rip MP3s to your MP3 player.

Oh wait.

Edit: @below: I assume he was being sarcastic about liking it.

whengeeksgobad6332d ago

I think in your mom was being sarcastic, but hey, stranger things have happened.

GlossGreen6332d ago (Edited 6332d ago )

I'm a little off topic whengeeksgobad. I chalk it up to being tired. Now in my defense, there has been a lot of talk lately about downloading games. It seems that most of these conversations are brought up in reference to why Microsoft doesn't care about this format war. "They're going to go digital download anyway." I hear that just about every day. I'm just used to getting something when I pay for it. Sure, I've purchased a few games off of PSN, but I would much prefer to be able to put them in my hand. As far as my experiences with music goes, I've ripped the music from cds and digital downloads. I'm not really happy with either. Could be my equipment, but I'd prefer to have a physical copy in case something goes wrong. Understand what I'm saying?

whengeeksgobad6332d ago

sure do, and I'm not trying to say physical copies are going the way of the dinosaur. Try EAC for ripping your music off cd's. It's the best I've encountered, hopefully it may work out better than what you were using before...provided it wasnt already EAC (exact audio copy).

LastDance6332d ago

Well downloading a movie and dowloading a SONG are 2 very different things.

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gamesblow6332d ago

Wrong article all together... I had this elaborate argument laid out to. "ha"

I wrote this earlier when I was on my huge rant during the wave of B.S. we got when everyone was making excuses as to why Sony hasn't won yet.

Jumped the gun and missed that "not"

meepmoopmeep6332d ago

digital download won't kill blu-ray. it might be the successor AFTER blu-ray is in its dying stage, but who knows, unless the WORLD (not US only) gets broadband to the majority of houses, a hard copy will still exist.

whengeeksgobad6332d ago

My guess is it will take quite a few years for BLU to pass up regular DVD. Downloads gain momentum by the year as well. I've also said this quite a bit but: as encoding technology improves, the size of these downloads will also be reduced. Hard copies will always exist, don't get me wrong. But I do believe downloads will be nearly as popular in the following years, which will hopefully drive down the cost of the physical copy, which will in turn drive down the cost of the download etc etc.

meepmoopmeep6332d ago (Edited 6332d ago )

i agree with everything you said but i didn't try to say blu-ray will hit it off right away. like you said, it'll be years before it phases out current DVD's. But you have to remember that the other parts of the world don't have broadband and those that do pay by the amount they use monthly. they're even experimenting with pay as you use here in North America.

whengeeksgobad6332d ago

then I think we are pretty much in agreement!

here's one thing to consider though: hd content is already being successfully streamed to MANY living rooms via comcast on-demand. sure that's not happening over a 1.5 meg dsl and the same people without broadband are probably the same people who need movies the most, so again - hard copies are not going anywhere. I just sometimes see the knee-jerk reaction people here have to DD's and it always leaves me a little puzzled. I just see it as the evolution of media delivery to the home for those who are inclined to try it.

undacovabrothe6332d ago

Having things in their hands. People like collecting and showing off. People like easily just picking something up going to friend/family house and putting it in. Also unless most ppl like just renting they will have to fork out a considerable amount of money to dl a huge hd movie. Movies and music are massivly different in size no one is going to want to have to dl shyt loads of movies onto their computer slows down comp and you eventually run out of space. Even if they make a device to dl it on it could not be more than what 350 gigs. Your gunna run out of space sometime what you going to do then your going to have to delete some of the movies you payed for to make space for another. Not to mention people can barely use dvd players let alone have digital downloads as a standard. The industry wont even a low it they would never want to rule out a physical disc not at least in the next 10 years. Thats where they make most of the money and not to mention when things tend to hit the internet a lot of illegal dling tend to happen which is harder to control then ppl on the street selling bootlegs. Blue ray will be around for a LONG time because that is a multi-billion dollar industry which is not going away anytime soon.

meepmoopmeep6332d ago

agreed. maybe when multi terabyte hdd's become standard and downloads average 1-5MB/sec. it "MIGHT" become popular. who knows. it sure isn't going to be the standard within the next couple years or even in blu-rays lifetime

whengeeksgobad6332d ago

Most people are far more impressed with my list of 170 HD movies hooked up to my 360 than my shelf of 600 DVD's NOT in HD. Now, those are just the experiences of my guests. I'm sure it varies.

JasonPC360PS3Wii6332d ago

You mean like an Ipod, pocket PC, or a cell phone? I'm holding a 300gb hard drive in my hands right now, it's attached to my laptop (USB)and it's the size of two cell phones. :)

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer1d 14h ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole1d 8h ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK1d 1h ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent7515h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM20h ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif19h ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer15h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin15h ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Agent7515h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer15h ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM11h ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

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Fishy Fingers1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer1d 13h ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

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HyperMoused1d 13h ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher1d 13h ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning771d 8h ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay20h ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer15h ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Switch 2 accessory makers are “working hard” on magnetic analogue sticks to combat stick drift

Nintendo Switch 2 stick drift is already an issue, but accessory makers are already working on magnetic joysticks.

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Neonridr8d ago

I've never had stick drift in any controller I've ever owned. All my joycons (3 sets) from my Switch are perfectly fine. My Switch 2 ones are good. Never had a dualshock / dualsense have it (did have a dualshock get a stuck trigger once). Even my Valve Index controllers which were notorious for drift were fine for me.

Goodguy018d ago

Varies. Just because you've never had one doesn't mean others won't. I've had PS, Xbox, and Nintendo controllers indeed drift on me. Remember the drift lawsuits that Nintendo has had.

Please stop trying to say that traditional potentiometers are absolutely fine when hall effect/tmr sticks are beyond superior lol, not sure why so many people keep trying to defend potentiometers when hall effects are so pro consumer.
Companies like nintendo, sony, and mcsft don't want to implement them simply because they want you the consumer to keep buying them. Most casuals will just buy a new controller if theirs difts, easy money for the big 3.
I've gone hall effects and have never gone back, can leave my controllers out absolutely fine without worry of dust ruining the sticks.

Neonridr8d ago

when did I say that traditional joysticks are absolutely fine? I'm sharing my own experience here. I never said that others don't experience issues, nor that this is somehow acceptable. Strange leapfrog from A to B on that one.

People love to say it's a huge widespread issue, yet you only hear about it because the minority is vocal whereas the majority don't report anything because they are fine.

I'm happy you switched to hall effect sticks, if that's what works for you, then awesome.

Christopher8d ago

Cool? Pretty sure this is for those who are having it happen. Not sure how your anecdote addresses other peoples' problems.

Neonridr8d ago

people around here act like everyone will get drift. I'm willing to wager more people won't get drift than will.

Pyrofire957d ago

lucky you. I've only had minor drift once in my L Joycon which I fixed with some card stock, but drift is an undeniable problem as a whole.

repsahj7d ago

My 2 sets of Joy-Cons from my OG Switch started to drift with just a month of use. That is why I bought Dobe Joy-Cons with just $25, and until now they are still fine. I hope this will never happen again on my Switch 2.

jznrpg7d ago

My left joy con for the OG Switch got stick drift right away as well. I never had issues with my PS5 controllers since launch until I got my kids PS5’s and they had stick drift with 2 controllers. They drop them because they are kids and although I have them wash their hands before gaming they still get gunk under them somehow. I got their controllers modded because they would have issues no matter what I have them do.

jambola6d ago

"people around here act like everyone will get drift. I'm willing to wager more people won't get drift than will."
no, nobody is acting like that, you're jsut exaggerating it and lying to downplay a problem

-Foxtrot6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Nintendos biggest defender on here so it figures

gold_drake6d ago

you know, i said the same thing not too long ago and then BOOM both controllers ha.

one on the moving stick and one on the look around stick.

both suck arse. ha

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jznrpg7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

The tech is already there. I had a couple of my PS5 controllers modded with Hall Effect modules and they work great. They should come standard with them these days but they don’t.

OtterX7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Nyxi already made some fantastic Hall Effect controllers for Switch 1. I don't know why Nintendo couldn't have it by now if Nyxi has had for years.

spoonard7d ago

Cheap, frictionless sensors ALREADY exist. Why are they "working hard to combat stick drift"? Stick drift should be a thing of the past at this point. The technology is here...NOW. It has been...for YEARS! Why is stick drift even still spoken about? It shouldn't exist!

Chocoburger7d ago

Because its a scam for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft to sell more overpriced controllers.

jambola6d ago

because pathetic fanboys will continue to defend and support

Doomeduk6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

WD 40 if it's shagg.d anyway why not ? I ordered a new ps5 pad after Helldivers 2 and POE 2 became unplayable due to drift but in the meantime I fired a bit of WD on my balls just below my stick rotated in a clockwise fashion massaging it in so to speak and also did the pin reset thingy and all clean no drift and hit that cancel purchase button like I meant it

UltimateOwnage6d ago

Honestly I’ve used my original Switch JoyCons and Pro Controller since launch and only in the last year did I see drift start to show up on one of my JoyCons. I’m sure it happens depending on how much and how firm the joystick is used, but it seems like a minor issue that goes with wear and tear after thousands of hours of play. I wish there had been Hall Effect sticks on Switch 2 just so there’s one less thing to worry about, but I’m not really concerned about it.

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