I hope this is wrong because if it isn't then there's going to be alot of pissed off 360 fanboys!!! Also I thought the PS3 wasn't supposed to outsell the 360 in America. This is great news for Sony though.
this expalains why msoft quickly went with the supply constrain explanation. I didnt even think this was possible till the release of mgs4. So looks like ps3 outsold 360 by way more than 40,000 units for the month of january. They even did better than expected. Next months another month lets see how long they can sqeeuze the lead
Title Actual units Expected units % From Expected Nintendo Wii 274,000 396,900 -30.96% Nintendo DS 251,000 483,700 -48.11% Xbox 360 230,000 288,600 -20.30% PlayStation Portable 230,000 233,000 -1.29% PLAYSTATION 3 269,000 209,300 +28.52% Total Hardware Units 1,227,000 1,611,500 -23.86%
"Supply issues, Microsoft? At this stage in the game for you? I call BS. That's pretty freaking hilarious the PS3 outsold it. I'm not surprised either. Every store I go to either has no PS3's on the shelf or just one left."
How much overestimate for xbox360 and underestimate for PS3 by VGC?
crazy, i've never thought that this day would come so early in America, one month or not...
and btw, if there were a so-called shortages...we can see this ridiculously already over-priced get an even high price-tag on ebay...but apparantly there is not any sign of Shortages...
(heck, any friend of you claimed that they couldn't get a xbox360 in january? let me know and i point out 10+places for him to get one)
Good for Sony - Microsoft needs this kick in the ass and drop the price of 360 and get us a better deal on xbox Live :). MS will soon respond with a price drop as it seems that the 360 market at it's current price is becoming saturated and needs a price drop ASAP. MS is still dominating the software charts and that's where the money are made :)
I think Microsoft saw this coming, and they just simply find an easy excuse. Since there is no shortage on Pro and Arcade, they just blame it on Elite. Nice try.
SCEA announced they too have a shortage. Consumer are send home unhappy when they couldn't find 60gb on the market. According to SCEA, If no shortage of 60gb and along with 40gb and 80gb, Sony will even beat Wii. In another word, blame the shortage. LOL
but...but...but...VG charts said.... unless of course shortages only happened in the US. Oh I don't know...the news is that PS3 kicked some serious 360 ass. I suppose they could have run out, but then Vg charts didn't report nor did Microsoft until a couple of hours ago...actually no one in the entire industry did. I suppose this gives credit to nintendo and their wii more then anything. npd or no npd their stocks are a running low, day in day out.
Wow, so the VG Charts numbers seem to have been WAAAY off then. Well, if this month's vg charts numbers can be trusted, then MS may have corrected things in Feb... Either way, this is AWESOME news for Sony, and if they can keep up the momentum then they will be recognized as the brand leader even with Nintendo's massive lead! Just b/c the Wii still does not really compete with the PS3 or 360 when it comes to games.
every month. I don't think it's going to slow down any time soon. Just look at COD4 this past month on both systems and figure in the user base for both consoles. COD4 on the 360 is selling at slightly more than 2 to 1 but the 360 user base is (I am guessing. I'm sure one of you guys probably know the actual numbers because I don't pay that much attention to them) is probably closer to 3 to 1.
Break that down and this past month COD4 is selling as good as if not better on the PS3 compared to the 360. So PS3 owners are buying games "now".
There are roughly 17 million 360's that have been sold and near 11 million PS3's that have been sold (in total). So the install base isn't 3:1, it's almost 1.5:1. I own 13 games, but not everyone with a PS3 is a big gamer dude, so the software sales aren't as good.
I am referring to the U.S. only because that is where these NPD numbers are from.
You have more games for the PS3 then I do for the PS3 and 360 combined. I usually sell my games on eBay after I am finished / bored with them or know I most likely wont play them again. The only games I keep are games I never grow tired of. I have played roughly 100 titles between the 2 consoles. Most of them on the 360 but lately I have been purchasing games for both.
COD4, Burnout Paradise and Devil May Cry I got for both systems. I know. I'm looney.
I've bought 17 so I guess I'm doing my little part :P
Seriously, there isn't any excuse to not buy games for the PS3 cause they've got something for everyone. The NPD numbers don't surprise me because it's been slowly building to this point. The PS2 surprises me, cause it just keeps kicking ass.
The PS3 trend will continue because of the exclusives and third party games like DMC4/GTA4 that PS2 owners will migrate towards. The classic exclusives like GT, MGS and FF will attract both the PS2 owners and 360 owners fed-up with their boxes' problems. Already had two friends make the switch in the last few days and it's only a matter of time before the 360 exodus begins. Face it, most 360 owners are "hardcore" gamers and if the games are on PS3 this year a lot of those guys and gals will be picking one up even without the RRod, DRM issues or the death of HD-DVD.
Must of been the ps2 owners who where dmc fans getting ready for dmc4. :D
If it be true , GTA4 will move alot of the PS2 flock to PS3 in march/april. March will probably be huge for psp too, due to FF7:Crisis Core and God of War CoO:w/nekkid faux bigguns as seen on GT trailer. O.O
I mean shortages at under 300,000 consoles is ridiculous. This would mean all Microsoft's existing warehouse stock would have all had to have been depleted, and they didn't produce any new stock in the past few months for figures so low to possibly deplete the supply's. If the number of consoles sold were 2-3 times what they are, then I could potentially accept that there was a shortage, but there is nothing in the 360 that could be in such short demand that they couldn't get the supplies. The only other possibility is they had so many RRoD last month that they had to devote all the new stock to replacing peoples dead consoles, but I some how doubt thats the case.
Well... there is one way to find out... many game stores are reporting that there are xbox 360 shortages... I went to my local Gamestop and they do not have have elites or premiums... but then again it can be just my local store...
Regardless of this I believe that the PS3 is gaining momentum... and this is only due to microsoft own success... though they were able to they decided to see how the xbox 360 performs against the PS3 when the elite is more expensive the the PS3 $399 SKU...
To be honest with you, I was hoping the PS3 beats the xbox 360 in america at least 1 month... this should force microsoft to drop the price... they are way overdue... they only dropped $50 in almost 2 1/2 years... when Sony drop $100 within 6 months of launch...
I really hope is not that they are having manufacturing problems... since that means no price drop... if demand is higher than they expected then they will keep the price the same... which would suck... They already drop the price big time in Japan... their next move should be the US and Europe... a $100 price drop would be nice... don't you think?
I know I was just out in town after class with a friend looking for stuff to buy and our two Gamestops and Best Buy had X360s in stock, a few from each category. Though that might be MY local stores.
well i dnt knw about the rest of the US. While i havent seen elites in a while i do know they always have xbox 360's they even had one wii today which i almost bought went home to get cash for it and alas it was gone:(. Whether or not supply affected 360 sales is debatable. More than likely it did but i do believe if someone wanted a 360 bad enough they could get it with ease. If msoft under estimated post holiday demand then thats a big blunder on their part. However ps3 still had a fantastic month coming between 5000 units of the wii and outsellin expectations significantly. Ps3 is gaining momentum and 360 will more than likely respond with a price drop soon but with ps3 rumored to be dropping to 299 soon then that could easily neutralize msoft price drop effect. Also with so many great games coming out for ps3 begining with MGS4 with a 299 price tag expect huge huge sales.
in Chicago (and surrounding areas) you can easlily find a 360 at any sotre....Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, Walmart.....the point is, no one wants one.
Theres tons of 360's in Las Vegas, NV. Targets, Best Buys, Wall Mart and 4 of the Gamestops/EB Games i been in these couple days. Yes I was looking for some hardware PS3 item and some Eye of Judgment cards... Funny, the last store I visited, I found the deck I was looking for and 4 booster packs lol.
Now 360 fans will say it's because of the "shortage" even though there is absolutely no reason for a shortage, and if there was a shortage ... the sales would be higher.
i know its hard for you to understand but the 360 has a shortage same with the wii and DS. wait until next month and you will say like you normally do that the numbers dont matter
There isn't really a shortage. don't be fooled by that crap. The PS3 outsold 360 due in part but not completely to the fact that Blue Ray won the format war. FYI, this trend will continue for good.
lmao at the sore losers DREAMING and trying to tell thereselves u cant find a Xbox 360 SKU. I LIVE IN TAMPA FLORIDA AND THE XBOX 3fixme ISN'T SOLD OUT ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! I saw ALL THREE SKU'S at WALMART today LMAO. Keping telling urself that douche wad. Because the PS3 is gonna be msashing the junkbox worse than this VERY SOON. MGS4. All the games and price drops are coming. NO MATTER WHAT U SAY ITS STILL 400$. Alot more expensive. PS3 IS WINNING EVERYWHERE LOSER BOTS. YOU ARE GETTING A$$ RAPED. You are going to lose. Get over it. You don't even stand a little chance.
hahahahahahhahahahaha SO HILARIOUS. Xbox 360s are not in SHORTAGE. I HAVE SEEN THEM EVERYWHERE. EVERYWHERE. EVERYWHERE. I LIVE IN TAMPAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FLORIDA. One of the biggest paces in the U.S. and they are EVERYWHERE. LMAO BOTS YOU ARE LOSING. EVERYWHERE!!!!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA LOOK AT THE SORE LOSERS EVEN NPD SHOWS THE PS3 PWNING THE BOOMBOX HAHAHAHAHHA... AND THE REALLY JEALOUS BOTS TRY TO SAY ITS "ONLY FOR BLU RAY" AND NOT BLU RAY GAMES!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AHHAA PS3 FTMFW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just like Micheal Patcher said... WAIT UNTIL THE PS3 IS ACTUALLY 250$/300$ WITH ALL THE GAMES THAT ARE DROPPING. HAHAHAHHAHAHHA PS3 IS GOING TO COMPETE AND POSSIBLY OUTSELLING THE Wii IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS MORONS.
IT IS COMING!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
LMFAO @ THE ANGRY BOTS IN DENIAL!!! YOU ARE STILL GETTING PWNED HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AND ITS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF YEAR 2!!!!! 9 MORE YEARS TO GO!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Due to the recent findings, I've discovered what Microsoft will be saying at GDC this year. Here's what they will say.
"Hello everyone. It's no big deal that we were outsold in the only territory where we were winning. We will PWN this year. As for the coming year we have, well, still Xbox Live which continues to break. We will also continue to charge an obnoxious $50 a year for the service which Sony provides free. As far as games go, we basically gave you all we had next year. So, no good exclusives. But it's ok, after all we have a whopping total of 5 from last year to keep you going forever. I mean, who could get tired of Halo 3, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Crackdown, and Bioshock? We believe those are all the games you need to have a 'vast and amazing' game library. And there's no way Sony will be better than us this year. It's not like they outsold us globally last year. And who would want to buy AAA titles like Killzone 2, Resistance 2, MGS4, God of War 3, Final Fantasy XIII, GT5, Little Big Planet, and Crysis? They couldn't be as good as our top 5. And Playstation Home won't be any good, it's too brilliant of an idea to work. But don't worry everyone, we'll continue to sell faulty hardware with 20%+ failure ratings. Go Microsoft!"
Looks like PS3 had plenty of stock hence the NPD expected numbers being so off for the others.
EDIT: Stop Dissagreeing with me even the site where this info came from has Edited the info mentioning supply issues.. sheesh. Doesn't take an idiot to figure out people have been complaining about not being able to find the 360 SKU they wanted for weeks.
WHY is there a 360 shortage exactly? When has M$ EVER had this problem besides launch? Shortages aren't due to sales, since they're lower than the PS3.
Microsoft knew the NPD data and so they preempted it with an obvious release statement. There were no 360 shortages...that's bollocks. Remember Sony's "stock constraints" for the PS3 last year...yuh right.
Is this a first in America?
all I got to say
wow, awesome. i hope it stays so. ps3 is the better console, the americans have grasp it at least for one month. go ps3!
Software side. Ps3 owners needs to pick up on buying more games ;o
Microsft knew this all the time. Plaese for this part use you common sense
days before MS "we are gettign shortages for 360"
please use your common sense here
PS3 is getting momentum
Allah/GOD i love you