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Far Cry 2 Devs 'Worried' by PS3...

Sony's complex PS3 hardware is a 'nice fit' for Ubisoft's ambitious Far Cry 2 - but developers Ubisoft Montreal admit that compromises have been made. "We were somewhat worried by some of the reported high complexity of developing for the PS3", reveals Tech Director Dominic Guay, "but the raw processing power is impressive".

After a slew of delays, and some unfavourable comparisons between 'identical' Xbox 360 and PS3 ports, it seems developers are finally getting to grips with Sony's machine. "We made sure we had a group of programmers that were not scared by complexity and had a large console programming experience to work on the initial PS3 R&D of Dunia (Far Cry 2's graphics engine). At that point, we didn't know what to expect."

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CaliGamer5947d ago

Very good read. It seems like things that were thought to be useless this generation are turning out to be a good thing (Blu-ray, HDD). I wonder how many more developers will find the PS3 feature helpful in the coming months.

mesh15947d ago

Any 1 remember turok ? im waiting for the best titles being released on my console and will fun smoother on my console as ive seen in the past gta4/too human/farcry2/alanwake/gears of war 2 and many more

hazeblaze5947d ago

The title probably should have read "Far Cry devs impressed by PS3"... that seems to fit the tone of the article a lot better.

wageslave5947d ago

Did you read the whole article or just the cherry-picked passage above? See, if you read the article, you'll know that the title is correct, and reflects the intent of the artile.

What has happened, is the article has been cherry-picked to reflect the world-view of the submitter.

Read the whole thing, they mean to say that much R&D was required to reach an equal port of Xbox 360. So, the budget for the PS3 version will be higher, while remaining equal in performance.

Remember, that has always been the issue. Not "Can it be done?" But "Can it be done with equal effort". And the answer is clearly no. What does this mean (IMHO); fewer 3rd parties will want to make ports to PS3.

Kleptic5947d ago

Wageslave...you attempt to remind people to read the whole article...and then throw in the 'to make it equal with the 360'...which is something you completely made up...

there was no reference to the 360 in this article whatsoever...only references to the PC version...not that the PS3 version was the same, worse, or better than the 360 counterpart...

you ruin your own credibility when you tell people to read an article, and then blatantly make stuff up to support what you would like to believe...

blusoops5947d ago

Wageslave just got OWNED by Kleptic! Nice one Kleptic...more bubbles for you!

Kleptic5947d ago

haha...I guess...its kind of funny...This article menions 3 things the PS3 has that other consoles do not...an incredibly powerful processor...a high capacity medium...and standard local disk storage...all of which 'make our lives easier', according to the devs...all 3 of those are something that the 360 does not have, its advantages remain elsewhere...

just makes him saying 'to achieve an equal port to the 360' even more humorous...

wageslave...please show us the article that does have these guys pointing out what they like about the 360...it sure isn't this one...and it wasn't in the interviews about the game last week, of which are from Gamespot...if anything the technical info mentioned in this article points to the 360 not really being a machine that will handle an engine like this very well...with a focus on immense processing requirements, and large amounts of data streaming...that is definitely a place the 360 doesn't exactly shine...

sonarus5947d ago (Edited 5947d ago )

why do these fanboys choose to reamin in the gamerzone. I mean if you want to stick with your 360 even though from the looks of it, you will be missing out on some of the greatest games of 08 then fine because in your eyes the greatest games are on 360. But if you think you can come here and state points to prove your point you are foolin yourself. PS3 has more games and it is already spreading its wings to show its power and no signs of slowing down yet. Unlike the 360 which pretty much peaked with gears of war 1 would be interesting to see how much farther gears 2 can push. Msoft did a lot of things right and sony did a lot of things wrong but at the end of the day it all boils dwn to games and sony packed all the technology in their box to push the transition to next gen as far as they could. Maybe blu ray was put in there for selfish reasons but at the end of the day it is still being embraced by devs

LJWooly5947d ago

I think the difference between Gears 1 & Gears 2 will be the same as the difference between Halo 2 & Halo 3. In other words, minimal.

No, I don't think the 360 has peaked in terms of success, but in terms of hardware potential, it just about has.

The problem is that the 360 was built for now, and not the future. The future is something both Sony and Nintendo were looking to when they gave birth to their respective consoles. That's something microsoft failed to consider, and they're most likely going to pay for it sooner or later.

f7ss15947d ago

i realy pumped to play this game, i hope it has mouse and keyboard support on the ps3

Daishi5947d ago

Good job sonarus, not only did you bash fanboys you completely trashed someone elses system. I'd call that a double standard if anything.

gonzopia5947d ago

"We were positively surprised by how efficient the SPUs (the Cell processing units) were to do such things as run our vegetation simulation, our animations or our physics systems."

That statement denotes that, yes, while they had to do quite a bit of R&D to get to know the system, they were happy about it's capabilities and feel they can now easily make the port. The issue here is that developers need to spend some time learning it - and they don't want to, because time is money. If the Blu-Ray and the impressive processing power of the Cell make it possible to do things that the 360 cannot, this extra R&D time may be worthwhile for devs who would otherwise be hesitant... especially considering the larger numbers of sold PS3 units.

...only time will tell, however.

sonarus5947d ago

lol i didnt even come close to trashing the 360. I stated facts the way i see it ps3 is on the rise increasing the margin by which it outsells 360 world wide and reducing the margin in NA. Its been over a yr and we havnt seen a 360 game that looks better than gears. Not to say 360 cannot surpass gears but if it does it surpasses by a minimal margin. Ps3 on the other hand still has untapped power with uncharted not even using half of the ps3 power. i said great games are a matter of opinion so if you feel 360 has better games than 360 the cool thats your opinion but if you try to say it here i can prove you wrong. I didnt bash the 360 i jst stated facts. When fanboys talk reckless i gotta check em that simple

antoinetm5947d ago

even if small companies dont want to take the ps3 risk, its for the best because high costs and high risks will lead to some unexpected jewels being released on the ps3. (and crap too, like lair, but thats part of the deal)

bring KZ2, GT5, FF13 and the others!

think of it as natural selection.

TheMART at Xbotkings5947d ago

Money is a determining factor. Third party developers would much rather develop for the lead console in terms of an installed base, for those looking to make a sure profit. Whether a port to a rival console is to be considered or not, most of them would be wise enough to take a safer risk when it comes to exclusives.

antoinetm5946d ago

money isn't always the determining factor. Unless you refer EA, Ubi, Capcom ...

Economic sense also involves personal preferences and the gains that an individual gets from engaging in a specific activity.

Insomniac have their reasons to remain exclusive and so do valve and team ninja. Maybe they have a strong relationship with sony? maybe they want to challenge the ps3? maybe sony paid them more? etc.

I'm just saying that those factor shouldn't be overlooked and that a real artist economic gain is in creation rather than profit.

TheMART at Xbotkings5945d ago

I specifically stated "for those looking to make a sure profit", in terms of the average third party developer (Insomniac, Valve, and Team NINJA are exception developers with great financial backing).

Yes, there are developers looking for critical acclaim whether their titles make profit or not, but most of those already have a great amount of resources to do so as opposed to some of the average devs (Okami/Capcom, Beyond Good and Evil/Ubisoft, ICO/Sony, etc.). Keep in mind, this is a business. Without money, the average development company wouldn't be around, no matter how great of an ambitious vision. That's reality, you have to make money for your company and publisher. Just look at what happened to EA Chicago, Clover, Phoenix Game Studios, FASA, and many others who couldn't deliver sales.

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rushbd5947d ago

They actually praise the ps3 for having the structure that it has. Not enough Bad PS3 news in 2008 i guess....

Time Lord5947d ago

I was expecting one those lazy dev btching about the PS3 and how hard it is to program for..But it was totaly the opposite, they were full of praise about the PS3 and how powerfull it is.

Here is what they said

""The hard drive and Blu-ray are making our life easy considering FC2 is an open world continuously streamed around the player. That streaming bandwidth and disk space is very appreciated. So, in terms of AI, game structure, physics, dynamic time of day, open world gameplay, dynamic weather system, destructible vegetation, all of those things where we had really pushed the envelope technically, they run well on PS3."

"One thing that we realized pretty quickly as we started R&D on PS3, was that the hardware architecture had a very nice fit with some of our technical design decisions. We were positively surprised by how efficient the SPUs (the Cell processing units) were to do such things as run our vegetation simulation, our animations or our physics systems. So while it did require quite a bit of R&D to understand how to use the system correctly, once we started having results we saw that it was a very capable console and that FC2 could run on it."

gEnKiE5947d ago

It is funny though because you know any anti-PS3 kid went in their thinking it was a PS3 bash fest when actually the devs praise the structure of it.

sonarus5947d ago

i am honestly begining to feel bad for the ps3 haters. Not enough bad news for the ps3 is really begining to hurt. Ps3 is catching up to 360 outselling them world wide and blu ray is emerging victorious over hd-dvd and every week the news seems to get better. So they try to force bad news out of anything oh DMC4 takes 30mins to install, oh 360 version is superior because the controls are better. Tisk tisk. Last yr i almost sold my ps3 and i laugh at those who did. I feel bad for some of them two cus am sure their thinkin about it now

JCITY5947d ago (Edited 5947d ago )

is this ARTICLE HAVE THAT TITLE?? FLAME BAIT...BUT YEA ANYWAYS IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THEY GET SOME CRAZY GAMES BEING MADE... CONSOLE OF THE FUTURE