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Industry currently lacking originality? Can Wii U, Xbox 720 and PS4 help?

Do you all think the industry is lacking originality with its games? Next-generation consoles should help with that. The Wii U seems to have already started that process. What has to happen for more IP's to be introduced?

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DialgaMarine4250d ago

Originallity is such an arbitrary term these days. Just about everything, in terms of story and gameplay genre, has been done to death. The best thing that developers and publishers can do at this point is continue to push for more quality services and gameplay elements such as graphics and content. I get sick and tired of hearing the term "ripoff", because pretty much everything nowadays heavily borrow elements from past titles, or even books/ movies. Developers should just continue to compete for gamers' money through making higher quality products, while gamers themselves should look into more than just 1 or 2 franchises for their entertainment. That's what should happen with the next gen, but alas, it probably won't.

1upgamer994250d ago

Uhh, YOU SIR are WRONG.....YET AGAIN NINTENDO HAS DONE IT!!!!

LOGICWINS4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

The PS4(Uncharted 4, GOW4, KZ4)/720(Halo 5, Forza 5, another Gears spinoff)/Wii U(the 700th Mario, Zelda rehash) will all be primarily sequel machines. Due to the tablet controller, however, I suspect the Wii U will offer the most innovative gaming experience of the three. The 720/PS4 will most likely just offer technical enhancements that allow potential for better presentation and production values...nothing that directly benefits gameplay.

Hisiru4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

So youre saying Skyward Sword and Mario Galaxy are basically the same old games (which clearly isn't from a gameplay/visual/artstyle standpoint)?

Also, I saw a lot of improvements in Uncharted 3 (but UC2 is my favorite) and GOW3 and Naughty Dog is always bringing new IPS, if you think they are just gonna give us another Uncharted game, think again.

Halo 4 is clearly a much better looking game then the previous games.

Maybe we won't have originality in all those first party franchises, but we will have more incredible games next gen.

Also, originality doesn't need to come just from first party games, but Kaz Hirai already said he wants to focus on innovative ideas. Microsoft is going to give us things like VR/AR and Nintendo is doing a good job with the Gamepad. Rayman Legends and ZombiU feels like original games to me.

I am sure we can expect more originality next gen. Devs will have better systems to work with and new gameplay ideas.

LOGICWINS4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

Of all the games you mentioned, the only one that looks 'original' to me is ZombieU. Every other sequel you mentioned plays the same as their predecessors despite visual enhancements and SOME new gameplay mechanics. ZombieU as a whole feels new to me to the point that I would consider buying a Wii U JUST to play it.

"I am sure we can expect more originality next gen. Devs will have better systems to work with and new gameplay ideas."

Thats what people were saying way back in the PS2/Xbox days about this gen. And what happened? This gen has proven to be the LEAST innovative gen in gaming. Last gen we had Psi Ops, ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, Okami, Dragon Quest, Psychonauts, Eternal Darkness, The Suffering etc.

The lack of original games this gen is so apparent that we're actually REBUYING original games from LAST generation to re-experience innovation(Okami, ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, Persona 3, Persona 4: The Golden etc.)

The success of yearly COD/AC/Madden sequels has made publishers/devs extremely sequel focused, money conscious, and weary of creating ANYTHING new.

Why would you think that the next gen will be ANY different?

hatsume-miku4250d ago

Knowing Sony, no... they will just copy the others...

LOGICWINS4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

I have to agree with you in a sense. PSN itself owes it's existence to XBL. If it wasn't for XBL's fast growing popularity with Halo 1, Sony would have never taken the online space seriously.

Now with the Wii U, Sony tries to assert that a PS3 + PS Vita combo is "better" than a Wii U + tablet controller combo.

Sometimes Sony comes off as insecure, even though theres no need for them to do so. The PS3 still offers the best value of the big three consoles and arguably has the biggest variety of games.

Samus HD4250d ago

that's what sony does best . though they have some great exclusives, (Shadow of the colosus is on of my favourite of all times,) but since than they only are observing from nintendo (most)

1upgamer994250d ago

Well As brought up this week, Xbox 720 is 18 months away...PS4 more than likely 20 months away...(that's been stated more than once in the past month...lets face it Sony just started making money on PS3, and Xbox about 6 months before Sony...soooo You do the math. Are Microsoft and Sony going to keep putting out systems to LOSE money? Be a Fanboy all you want... do me a FAVOR GOOGLE how much MONEY Sony and Microsoft Have made on their Consoles...I wont do the work for you..I love my PS3, BUT Microsoft can we say,CRASH, Again and yet again MICROSOFT...PLEASE...give me a damn BREAK...SO I am playing your damn Game Halo, and guess what...NO GO....Like 10 hours into it..BAMN BITCH went down!!!!!!! Sony at least took a year,before failing. and NINTENDO NEVER FAILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bottom line...Lauch System NINTENDO for me!!!!!!!!!!

teabag-nation4250d ago

shut up DialgaMarine, you lack creative ability. anyway xbots n sony droids want plenty more similar military shooters because they love making EA and Activision rich. I bet theyre laughing their cocks off.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

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Relientk7721h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE18h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73018h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor15h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos15h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor15h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos14h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 17h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 17h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 21h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

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Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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