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Nintendo: We are not milking Mario franchise

Nintendo is not milking the Mario franchise by releasing so many games, according to company president Satoru Iwata.

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Shok4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

Title should be "We are not milking the NEW SUPER Mario series, cause that's what he's talking about.

Anyway, I agree, there's only ONE New Super Mario Bros game per system, that's not milking at all.

BUT, these games essentially the same thing over again and hardly innovate over their previous installments. They seem like copy-and-paste jobs, which essentially creates the illusion of the series being milked. I think that's what makes most people claim it's milked.

blumatt4640d ago

I think Nintendo might need to look up the word milking then. lol

All jokes aside, even though they're milking Mario, I'm STILL thinking about buying me a Wii U and a copy of Mario Wii U when it launches. I haven't had a Nintendo console since the NES and I think I'm ready to play me some Mario again.

Super Mario on the SNES was my favorite right behind Mario 3 on the NES.

I'm going to get all three consoles this go around most likely.

-Omega4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

Sorry this is off topic to your comment Shok but this is a Duplicate article

http://n4g.com/news/1063844...

Says the same things in here

Pushagree4640d ago

Only nintendo could tell thier fans such a blatent lie and get away with it. Mario is the original milked franchise. Companies like activision learned how to milk because of it.

live2play4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

super mario 3dland
new super mario bros 2
paper mario 3d

all include mario, so yea mario is milked
BUT
they all play differently

a 2d platformer
an rpg
2d/3d hybrid platformer

yes he is milked
but milking doesnt mean that those games are bad

they are actually all very very fun to play

do all of them innovate? do they all have groundbreaking new ideas? no

but it doesnt mean they are bad
lack of innovation does not equal boring gameplay
(it can, but it doesnt always)

take nsmb2 for example

the look and feel is basically a copy and paste
but its still a ton of fun

it was made by a new team that brought neat ideas to the levels

each level feels different from the others and each have a unique mechanic that makes it stand out

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now the music in nsmb series is god awful, the game looks bland especially the wii verison

but they actually did change the backgrounds for the 3ds one,
the 3ds version looks far better than the wii one

nsmb2 has night time, dusk time, mountains, auroras, eery dried trees for the ghost levels, even the castles have different insides

this game feels alot like past mario games
it makes sense since it was made by new blood
.
. new people want to do old things
veteran developers want to try new things

stuntman_mike4639d ago

I can see Reggie pulling on that big old teat right now.

only joking i think the 3D console mario's is where Nintendo tend to innovate though.

V0LT4640d ago

Over 200+ Games and games with Mario appearances and that isn't milking?

PopRocks3594640d ago

Because gaming's most recognizable icon doesn't deserve any sort of exposure, right? /sarcasm

Would anyone claim the same thing of the Sonic franchise? At one point they were releasing around three Sonic games a year spanning out on every major platform.

Soldierone4640d ago

Yes, yes I would call Sonic milking. In fact I'm pretty sure every Sonic fan like myself felt alienated by it. You buy a Sonic game and it sucked for the 10th time in a row, you kinda start to second guess buying them.

The difference is SEGA kinda screwed themselves and needed a cash crab, Nintendo isn't in that hole and could be innovating or creating another icon.

mobiusoneac44640d ago

"Nintendo isn't in that hole and could be innovating or creating another icon"

This. It feels like such a waste to keep releasing nearly the same game when they could focus those resources on something else.

Freakazoid20124640d ago

I'm not saying Nintendo doesnt milk Mario but they do have Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, etc. TO pretend all the release is Mario and that they never release any other games is not only false but childish to pretend.

Ult iMate4640d ago

Agreed.

New Super Mario Bros 2
SMB U
Paper Mario 3DS
Mario Kart 3DS
Mario Land 3DS
Luigi's Mansion 3DS
Mario Tennis 3DS
Mario Party 9
Mario & Sonic 2012

And that's for the last year announced and released games of Mario franchise. If that's not milking, then what is it?

1upgamer994640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

And let me ask you this...how many of them scored at least an 8/10 Oh and Lugi games are not MARIO..

Rrobba4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

But those are all either completely different games or at least on different consoles.

NSMB2 and NSMBU are similar but on different consoles. THey are 2D platformers. Paper Mario is more like an RPG. Mario Kart is an arcade racer. Mario Land is a 3D platformer. Luidi'g Mansion is like an adventure game, which features Luigi not Mario anyway. Mario tennis is a tennis game, Mario Party is a mini-game collection and Mario & Sonic is a sports game which IS NOT made by Nintendo, it's made by SEGA.

So, does Nintendo use the Mario CHARACTER a lot? Yes. But they do not milk any individual franchise. Have you ever seen more than 1 Mario Kart game on a single console? No. Same goes for New Super Mario Bros, and many others. Not to mention these games are mostly well rated anyway.

I do agree that they could add some new ideas to their classic games, but ONE game in each franchise per console is NOT milking.

Ult iMate4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

@1upgamer99
@Rrobba

Nevertheless that doesn't change the fact, that Nintendo is milking Mario franchise. The franchise doesn't have to consist of games of one genre. The Mario franchise is overmilked.

>>Lugi games are not MARIO..
Luigi is one of Mario brothers. His name is Luigi Mario. So his a Mario alright.

ChickenOfTheCaveMan4640d ago

Was there even a game where this guy was doing actual plumbing in those 200+ games?

Burning_Finger4640d ago

LMAO. It's Beyond milking. It's called "SUCKERS". lol

I stopped playing Mario right after SUPER MARIO WORLD.

linkratos4640d ago

Congrats on skipping Mario 64, Galaxy, and Galaxy 2. Only a real sucker would play some of the greatest games ever.

1upgamer994640d ago

Yeah Mario 64 only the FIRST true 3D platform game EVER...Gosh I guess Nintendo F ed up... and Mario Galaxy only scored a 10 out of 10....

TheRealHeisenberg4640d ago

A lot of major franchises are being "milked" so to speak. Is it really milking if it something that the fans want and end up enjoying?

LOL_WUT4639d ago

Yeah the problem with those games is that they get bashed for being the same thing, while Mario on the other hand gets a free pass. Whoever says that Mario is not being milked needs to pull their head out their a**.

linkratos4639d ago

I still don't understand how you think Mario gets a free pass?

slutface4640d ago

they milk it but they almost never change their formula. nintendo has to step it up with the originality cuz the competition is passing them by while they are still doing the same stale franchises.

from the beach4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

FIVE Little Big Planet games since the first one came out in 2008, all of them the same. And a kart racer..

DigitalRaptor4639d ago (Edited 4639d ago )

Yeah. All the same...

LBP - innovation defined.
LBP PSP - a port to strengthen PSP lineup. Decent.
LBP 2 - even more innovation.
LBP Vita - even more innovation, for a handheld.

Where's your fifth?

I wonder if you played them? Likely not.

from the beach4639d ago

The series isn't innovative, it's a flipping 2D platform game! The character doesn't even have so much as a signature move.

The PSP one was more of the same crap - although I'd hasten to add it's not a port of the PS3 game, as you'd know if you played it.

The rest is more of the same crap again and presumably will be again on Vita. I included the Move spin-off as another game, there's also all the DLC they've vomited out over the past four years.

'Crap defined'.

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Why Portability Still Matters for Nintendo Switch 2—and What We’re Hoping to See

Nintendo Switch 2 upgrades portability with a bigger screen, 1080p handheld play, and Wi-Fi 6. Here's why it still matters in 2025.

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Profchaos7d ago

As someone who travels for work I still care about portable systems.

I have found using remote play in a hotel room is an excellent experience in a major city as I've got my console hard wired to a gigabit connection at home however it's not perfect if power trips the console tends to go to the repair section and can't be booted remotely so it's a annoying call to family to power it on for me.

A hotel out of town or regionally though that can cause havok for remote play as I'm always on 5g using it hotel wifi is never good enough for a solid remote play session.

But leaving a stable location and getting onto a plane or train and there's little to no chance of a good experience with remote play thats where something like the switch 2 will really shine for me personally long haul flights are exhausting and one of my most hated things the switch has been invaluable for me and I'll absolutely be upgrading

Goodguy016d ago

Nintendo has always done it the best, handheld is in their genes. I do wish their dock could be like an egpu though and it make it much more powerful, it's a bit harder for me to play portable now for some odd reason, love just sitting on the couch with a big screen and controller. And ofc always great to have the portable option and for me it's best for smaller games.

jznrpg6d ago

I was hoping for a little more than 540p upscaled

UltimateOwnage6d ago

IMO, 540P upscaled in portable mode to a 1080P screen using DLSS on the tensor cores will likely extend battery life using a lower TDP and provide much better anti-aliasing and similar clarity compared to native 1080P with med/low AA at a higher TDP. It’s just a better way to use a mobile chipset. That’s not a flaw or weakness, it’s a key benefit for the portable design of the platform.

repsahj6d ago

Lol, even the impressive upscaling feature of Switch 2 can now spin to a negative one.

jznrpg5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Switch 1 was hitting 720p and above that with no upscale, so why can’t they have a higher res and upscale it more

repsahj5d ago

@jznrpg
Because of that even the current gen games will now run on switch 2 that looked as good and with decent framerate as the current gen consoles.

Do you watch Nintendo's hands on preview for switch 2? LOL.

badz1495d ago

because aside from Nintendo's own games which have their dedicated fanbase, portability is the only other thing it has going for it. Nintendo will be eliminated faster than xbox if they ever decide to do a dedicated home console again. going the hybrid way is the only way left for them and they are lucky they dominated the portable market all those years ago. imagine the power of the Switch 2 as a console this day and age with the same price as PS5. they will be the laughing stock of the market.

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Former Nintendo PR Explains Why Switch Games Rarely Go on Sale: 'This Isn't Ubisoft'

Former Nintendo PR manager says that the reason their games rarely go on sale is because they value their games and aren't like Ubisoft.

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Relientk7725d ago

Just throwing shade at Ubisoft like that.

"Nintendo’s audience will buy the game if it wants to, regardless of sales."

Sales? What sales? People buy Nintendo games at full price because they don't go on sale.

SlothLordPootus24d ago

That and the fact that their 3rd party support has been near nonexistent, so if you own the system you have basically no choice in what to buy. Especially with the switch it was nintendo first party or indies.

Obelisk9224d ago

Each company just wants to make the most profit, and Nintendo is such a strong brand that can afford to sell games at full prices withouth sales.
Weaker brands need to go on sale in order to continue selling some units.
That's just how it goes.

Christopher24d ago

Why I don't play Switch games and won't be buying a Switch 2. I tried, but it's just not for me or my wallet.

Dudebro23d ago

Nintendo is a game company only.althought I don't like it you can't see where they're coming from.nintendo doesn't have a diverse portfolio.

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gold_drake25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

theres a reason why hes a "former" employee.

woth that kinda mindset, i would have fired him too ha.

__SteakDeck__24d ago

What are you talking about? He wasn’t fired. Nintendo wanted to move his show to Seattle and he didn’t want to leave California.

franwex24d ago

Keeping it real? I would’ve promoted him.

lukasmain25d ago

They value their games? Meaning others who have sales don't? How fking rude of this dude. Nintendo are really arrogant

LucasRuinedChildhood24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Hopefully they get humbled like with the 3DS launch but I doubt it. There's enough early adopters that are very enthusiastic.

VariantAEC23d ago

I don't doubt that Nintendo will be forced to swallow their pride again.

SoloGamer124d ago

because Nintendo is anti-consumer

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5 Of 8 Japanese AAA Game Stocks Just Hit All-Time Highs

Dr. Serkan Toto says: While things do not look great for many studios in the West, things are very different in Japan – and I was shocked how little people in the industry still know and understand about the third biggest gaming market in the world (which is a probably a positive for a Japan game industry consultant like myself).

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gold_drake38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

its funny, i just read something about this yesterday.

Eonjay38d ago

Honestly, it looks about the same if we are measuring a company's success on their all time high stock price. It has nothing to do with the sentiments some in the industry have.

Objectively the two biggest problems are cost cutting and consolidation.