1UP Editor Sam Kennedy raises some very important points in terms of PS3's price justification in his latest blog entry titled "The Next-Gen Battle Begins to Take Shape"
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I thought this was an interesting article. However, it was laced with shameless bias. If you want to tell the truth about a console, and want to appear unbias, you cannot make comments like "I want a PS3 now so bad that I don't know what to do." or "The PS3 is definitely worth the 600 dollars" A more objective approach would have been, "I was really impressed with the visual of the PS3, may just have to scrounge to 600 dollars and get me one." I have never read anything that this person has written before. And therefore with an objective and "Unbias" opinion, I would have to say that this person is VERY BIAS for the PS3. But in the same breath, I can also say, he can like whatever he wants. Just spare us the Drool!
cool read. i myself was deeply into Lost Odyssey; but after seeing it at TGS i just came away with this FF-clone impression...and if there's anything the rpg genre doesn't need is another FF-clone (Final Fantasy is a unique experience all its own). thats why Blue Dragon's so special. Blue Dragon looks good and has its own flavor: i'll definately get it once it launches. but save for it, and Lost Planet (which i already have the demo for) nothing else for the 360 at TGS wowed me. hopefully things will change in the next couple of days with X06, but as it stands TGS was all PS3...and where Sony failed at E306, and dug a deeper hole for themselves in the ensuing months, they DEFINATELY delivered at TGS. Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, DMC4, FFXIII, Lair, Virtua Fighter 5, Ninja Gaiden Sigma (yep, i already own it on my 360, and plan on repurchasing it on the PS3), GTHD, actual-game-play trailer of MGS4...and a sneak-gem called White Knight Story all looked fantastic. given Sam's slamming of Sony in the past, i can only take to heart what he's said about the PS3 now as a valid point.
And "the Truth"= Elmer F.U.D.
First off he speaks about how they have been accused of being biased on many levels. From the XBox community. Second, he defends his own staff from the XBox community. Third, he contradicts himself later in the article. He compares the 360/PS3 to Dreamcast/PS2. But then explains how Gears of War blows him away graphically. How it looks like E32005 Killzone in real time gameplay. This was a suddle slap in the face to the XBox fanboys that flood his email and message boards with hatemail. If you are going to make bold comments about the hardware of the systems, then back it up! Tell me what hardware specs make you come to the conclusion that the 360 is so inferior to the PS3 graphically? The only developer he talked to was someone who is working exclusively with the PS3! Blu-Ray doesn't make graphics any better, they just hold more room. All I can say is that this guy better be careful with what he is saying. There is something called "conflict of interest". Thats all I am going to leave it at!
Nothing I've seen has completely wowed me at TGS from sony... a plea for help with a price drop... break ps3's, only a handful of playable games (none of which are killer apps, save resistance), and a lack-luster press conference. The only reason people think that sony won TGS was because they DIDN'T screw up too big. But if you look at what microsoft presented it was a superior press conference and superior gameplay booths (no melting consoles) and with Peter Moore's 1080p anouncement plus 50 exclusive japanese developed titles along with 25 more non-exclusive japanese developed games... plus all the new xbla arcade games? Anyhow, this blog is ridiculous, how does he make this assurtion? "Europe? Because Sony doesn't see Microsoft as much of a threat there. By the end of next year, Sony will be the market leader in Japan and Europe." I mean without soccer how is ps3 going to rule europe? and with the support that the wii has in Japan, how's he say that ps3 will rule there? This blog is taking to many liberties, the games did "look" great but looks did not make the ps2 the raining champ, it was games and gameplay along with japanese developed games, and so far nothing I've read from gameplay makes get hot over ps3. Microsoft showed that they are focused on the japanese market, by compiling such a long list of japanese developing support and putting out games, like lost odessey which ff fanboys want to deny but can't, will rock ffXIII, blue dragon, trusty bell, fatal fury, lost planet, etc.. the japanese are also economical and with the bundles that microsoft announced may see the 360 as much more cost effective come dec 7th when blue dragon comes out... or next month when the demo for lost odyssey comes out. I'm not saying that the 360 was the winner of TGS, I'm just saying that both companies had very strong outings and each had some shortcomings. To say that one was the clear victor is a little absurd.
I agree completely with what you have said.
"The big question on my mind going into TGS was PS3. I was hoping to go to the show and see stuff that would demonstrate why I'd spend an extra $200 on a console...and I did. Virtua Fighter 5, White Knight Story, and especially MotorStorm (OMG) were well beyond anything I've seen on the 360. I don't know if you can really tell from the videos we posted, but MotorStorm is just so damn impressive. Every once in a while I'll see a game and just take a step back and think to myself how far the visuals of games have come. Titles like the original Virtua Fighter arcade game, the Daytona USA arcade game, Metal Gear Solid 2 -- with each of these, I distinctly remember having those feelings. MotorStorm was the same for me. The high-res graphics running at 60 FPS with all of those special effects (like mud on your windshield) -- it just looks real. Honestly, I don't know how I'm going to play Excite Truck after having seen this. It's like, on one hand I could be playing this phenomenal looking game that controls really well, or on the other I could play this "kids toy" with last-gen visuals and steering that actually never feels like I'm in complete control. Heck, if Sony adds tilt control to MotorStorm, there really will be no reason for me to play Excite Truck. Maybe it was that Sony just had all of its games running on super sharp flatscreen TVs, but almost everything on PS3 just looked like it was more next-gen to me. It was kind of like the difference between, dare I say it, the PS2 and the Dreamcast. Which, as you know, wasn't that big a deal at first -- the Dreamcast had some fantastic looking second gen games -- but you could still tell the PS2 was a more powerful system (and to reiterate, I'm only talking hardware here -- I know the 360 is in a much different place software-wise). I think that's a rather fair comparison, to be honest -- similarly, as with the PS2, the PS3 is a platform that will distance itself even further once developers get more familiar with the hardware. Julian Eggebrecht of Factor 5 told me that they've only just scratched the surface of what they can do on PS3, and he fully expects all second gen PS3 games -- or certainly all third gen PS3 games -- to run in 1080p. So yeah, there's a tangible difference in the visual quality between PS3 and the Xbox 360. Does that surprise anyone? It shouldn't -- the PS3's coming a year later and costs a lot more. the games damn well better look nicer. But I needed to see proof of this -- I needed to know why I'm about to plunk down $600 for a games console -- and TGS definitely offered me that. But don't start posting comments about how I'm biased towards Sony now (just read a couple of my previous blog entries and you'll know how critical I've been of them lately). I got such a kick out of seeing all the comments about how we were either pro-Sony or pro-Microsoft biased during TGS. I think it actually flip-flopped a few times during the show. My favorite thing is when people actually get confused over who we're supposedly biased towards or against -- I've seen comments and discussion board posts where people have questioned even each other. I don't know, anyone ever think that maybe we just like to tell it like it is? We're gamers just like the rest of you, and we like to write report things just as we'd tell one of our friends. It just amazes me that people come up with all these conspiracy theories about us -- like we benefit at all from whether Sony or Microsoft sell another console. Especially Shane -- people have labeled him pro-Sony, but I think he's about as impartial as anyone. You know why he's been all positive on Sony these past few months? Because he's well aware of gaming trends and history and is just being realistic. As much as Sony has screwed up these past few months, as much trouble as they've had with manufacturing, and as much as we wondered what the hell Kutaragi was talking about for two hours last week, Sony is the market leader. PS2 will still outsell 360 this holiday season, and PS3 will likely carry the torch next holiday season. PS3 is a better piece of hardware, has better games from Japan, and will quickly catch up with 360 as soon as production allows. Xbox 360 doesn't stand a chance in Japan (sorry, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey aren't going to change the situation much). And you want to now why PS3 got delayed in Europe? Because Sony doesn't see Microsoft as much of a threat there. By the end of next year, Sony will be the market leader in Japan and Europe. North America is the only real battleground, and that's why we're getting the majority of units this fall." Xboxfanboys, why do you have to pay so much for only 20GB HDD? Why do you have to pay so much for Wi-Fi? Why do you have to pay so much for HD-DVD addon which you can only use for a limited time, cause it's without HDMI? Why do you have to buy additional accessoires to charge your controllers? Where are your promised 1080p native titles? Why do you wanna play games with inferior graphics(well, maybe except GOW, maybe...), although you love great visuals so much? Jump out ;-)
please dont copy and paste a whole article... its irritated and is spam. just for information, you dont need to pay that much for wifi... and vga works fine for hd-dvd
I thought it was the most unbiased and honest account of all three companies as it relates to TGS. Very good and interesting read and I'm glad someone has put this into a real perspective without all the fanboy talk
I love my 360 but the PS3 visuals look way more next Gen. The only game that really looks next GEn for the 360 is GOW. MS really needs to step there game up. However, this will not lead me to geta PS3, but visually PS# is killing the 360.
...at least for supporting what you see !!!
Sony drone posting,ignore
...isn't it? ROFLMFAO BTW your are a MS drone that loves to get milked and posts some ridiculous stuff without backing anything up. ROFLMFAO
Didn't see that much of a jump, sorry. Motorstorm looked good but White Knight Story only had slightly better graphics than Oblivion. And Virtua Fighter 5 looks a little bit better than DOA. A part from Motor Storm nothing to jump about.
...that was pretty d@mn good of you judging a PS3 game looking better than a XB360 game. White Knight Story must've been jaw dropping for a gamer then.
Well said buddy,and your right i cant believe SONYS still so araggant to think that microsofts not a threat in europe,this is what pisses me of so much about SONY,thier high and mighty attitude..
Whenever people talk about visuals in a game, Why is it either the Consle maker(MS, sony..etc)gets all the credit or they don't? Isn't it the developers that taps the hardware given to them? It is only true if you compare 2 multi platform games by the same developer and see where that leads. Gamers, its always about the developers,not so much the Hardware(If 2 are comparable). Unless your comparing a Wii or something to the PS3 or Xbox 360 then there isn't much contest with what is capable on both. Just like that guy said. DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS I read the article and while 70% of sony's gamer were not even finished or playable but somehow most of these games stole the show. Oh yeah is anybody interested in Gameplay anymore? Seems like if a game looks great it gets a 10, while the game doesn't even have to play great or it could just be a sucky game with great visuals. All people talk/flame about these days is Pixels per square inch. We are being fooled to thinking great games dos not have to play great it just have to look good and you'll buy it. thx gawd you can download demos for free now.
EnforcerOfThelies...... LMAO sony drone lmao
He had some good ponts and i agree with some but al of his opinions were based on graphics and hes spending 600 bucks for better looking versions of games he played before, and his comment about the Wii and how after seeing motorstorm he cant play excite truck, this kinda thing is what nintendo was talking about its about playing games in new ways not playing the same games with better graphics, like virtua fighter hast changed since virtua fighter 2 came out aside from graphics thats it and i think thats a problem
Why comment on the fact the Sony still doesnt look like the have an online plan and the fact the 3rd parties are refletiing this with the lack of online support for ps3 games ie.Tony Hawk and Virtua Tennis...things like this really matter why not say hey im paying 600 hundred bucks for something that has games that i could the full value out of on a console thats 200 dollars cheaper
how can the dude be wrong for his opinion? that makes no sense whatsoever, especially since his opinion is about something as inconsequential as video games. if he'd said that the 360 wowed him instead of the PS3 then we would have 360 fanboys praising him and PS3 fanboys slamming him. the only truths about all this is that we are gamers, they are the press, developers are developers, Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo are manufacturers. that i may like Final Fantasy more than Halo is no more wrong than you liking GOW more than Resistance.
He should have just left it to his opinion of how he felt about the PS3. The problem is that he starts off on the defensive. Which right there tells me that he may have other intentions behind his article. Second, he tries to make hardware comparison with no factual information whatsoever. He should have just kept it at "I thought the PS3 games looked better IN HIS OWN OPINION. End of statement. He idiotically started a rant about how (because of hardware) that the 360 is inferior that it won't hold up to the PS3 in the long run. All without any factual information. Like I said, he better be careful. Conflict of Interest is a b1tch!
"He should have just left it to his opinion of how he felt about the PS3"? he was covering TGS in its entirety, which includes more than just the PS3. he doesn't need factual evidence to make a comparison about two competing consoles: his own preference is judgement enough, especially when it's his own opinion. consumers don't go into stores with scrolls of factual evidence when trying to deduce which system to buy: they look at the games available and go from there. thats exactly what Sam did. in any regard Sam's rant wasn't an article...it was a blog, which last i checked was the centerpiece for such an opinionative comment.
Im not a Fanboy everything ive stated has backing and theres no denying it, yeah people are intitled to there own opinions thats fine i made logical comments that make tons a sense no matter what system people are backing i just wouldve liked thoughs questions answered, im definately right in all that i commented on