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BioWare Pretty Much Just Confirmed Mass Effect 4 (and Whether or Not Shepard Should Return With It)

Pixels or Death's Mike Potts writes:
I’m glad Shepard is alive, and I’m going to buy the next Mass Effect for the same reason I’m buying Halo 4 (seriously the parallels are eerie) – to continue the story, to continue my relationship with Shepard and crew.

No matter how many times I swear off of EA titles “forever”. Regardless of how many angry rants I record on the 3rd installment’s quality. No matter how far I think Shepard has fallen, I want him back, and even as you sit at your desktops waiting to finish this article and begin the Holy Flame Crusade against the comments section, even as you quote artistic integrity and rail against EA, you all do too.

That is why Shepard is alive.

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MikeBarrett4738d ago

I object to this article because it briefly bashes The Fast And the Furious.

The fifth one was actually pretty sick.

FrightfulActions4738d ago

I have to disagree. BioWare has said, on numerous occasions, that this is the end of Shepard's story. Will there be new ME3 dlc to let you play more as Shepard? Definitively. Will Mass Effect 4 feature Shepard? No. Far as they're concern, Shepard is dead. Yes, he can survive, but only one ending. It's not quite like ME2 where you have to kinda work towards making sure Shepard doesn't survive the ending. In ME3, Shepard is pretty much always dead except in the 'perfect' play through.

To have him be in ME4 would mean that the player had to received that one specific ending in ME3. Again, it isn't like Mass Effect 2 since the "Shepard's dead" ending was actually pretty rare and difficult to achieve.

Mass Effect 4 may reflect some of his decisions, but it's unlikely. It will probably all be events that happened during Mass Effect and Mass Effect 3, not after. There is like a two year gap missing, afterall. They'd have to make basically three different games in one to cater to ME3 endings. One where everyone is part machine with glowing eyes and no longer mortal, one where reapers are allies (in which case, good luck finding an enemy that challenges you) and the other is, well, more 'normal.'

I'll go as far as to say there will not be a Mass Effect 4, ever. There may be Mass Effect: [Insert Second Title]. The definite Mass Effect titles were Shepard's story. His story is over. There will not be sequels but there will be more Mass Effect in general. All of which most likely not going to be set after the events of ME3.

Mass Effect Galaxy and Mass Effect Infiltrator come to mind. Hell, James Vega might get his own little game to tell the events of what happened between him and the Collectors. He is getting his own anime movie afterall.

Hufandpuf4738d ago

how many times has Shepard died and came back now? I wouldn't be surprised if they had him come back again.

FrightfulActions4738d ago

Technically he's only died and returned once. Mass Effect 2.

The endings of ME3 don't really leave much room for escape routes though. There's a difference from having your body charred and burned, nothing but "meat and tubes" yet still being revived, to having your body turned into nothingness as it's absorbed and vaporized.

Again, taking into effect the differences of the endings. Destroy, Control, and Synthesis. The game would have to be basically three in one depending on the ending, since the endings are rather different. Two gives you reapers as allies, one makes everyone machine/organic hybrids who will always share and get along and the other just destroys the reapers and brings back 'normal' life cycle.

Those choices would have to have a huge effect on the universe of Mass Effect, it's not quite as simple as "did you save the Council or let them die" where the only real change it gives you is the ability to become Spectre in ME2 again.

I'd be all for a Mass Effect 4 with more Shepard. But I just don't see that being at all possible or likely. I don't see any future Mass Effect game taking place after the events of Mass Effect 3.

As I said before, any game releases would more than likely be in the timeline of the first games, not after, so it wouldn't need to take the ME3 ending choice into consideration.

However this wouldn't be Mass Effect 4, it would be Mass Effect: [Subtitle]. The Mass Effect trilogy (obviously not including Galaxy, Infiltrator, and only counting Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, and Mass Effect 3) was Shepard's story. It was his/her legacy. It's over with in 3.

We won't be seeing Mass Effect 4, but hopefully and quite likely we will see some type of Mass Effect game made again in the horizon. Fans love the universe, hard to imagine them not making something else out of it.

joab7774738d ago (Edited 4738d ago )

I would have agreed with you but I am leaning the other way now. First, they have to get the bad taste out of the mouth of those who loved mass effect and were heart broken. Second, Imagine is ME4 released as a launch title on next Gen consoles, either as the end or the beginning of another trilogy (shepherd could be dead or alive). Third, it's a money maker. But, they have to be careful in how they do it, but it can be very successful. Also, they have mentioned that this wasn't the last game in the Me universe.

KMCROC544738d ago

I say do a Star wars thing continue it with one of his kids, the man has slept w/ Jack, Tsoni,Miranda,Ashley, in a 3 game series one of them Galactic condom would've broken.

FrightfulActions4738d ago

Jack? Possible. Unlikely, but possible. Given the type of... activities... Jack does with men? I'm guessing shes on some type of futuristic birth control. She doesn't seem the type of risk having a brat, but she IS the type who 'approaches sex casually'. Not to mention the history or rape and such. Probably makes extra sure she can't have a kid then, wouldn't want to be carrying around the child of some rapist prick.

T'Soni? Possible, but again unlikely. Asari don't get pregnant in the traditional method that humans do. In that regard, it's the perfect birthcontrol since she will only have his/her child if she wants it during one of their melds. I don't think 'accidental pregnancy' is possible among Asari. Even if it did though, the player would be forced to be an Asari, which wouldn't work so well for players who prefer playing, you know, human male. Or human in general.

Miranda cannot have children, she's barren. Would she take Shepard's dna and make a offspring in the same way her father made her? It's possible but extremely out of character thus very very unlikely.

Ashley can die in the first game so it is unlikely they will make a game that relies on the assumption you kept her alive. I know I'd be shit out of luck at least, I save Kaidan.

KMCROC544738d ago (Edited 4738d ago )

@FrightfulActions am gonna go with tsoni had a melds during the first ME 1,Shep dies she finds you gives your body to Cerberus,she goes off to deal with the broker, has child then leaves it with freind at asari conven. becomes mean bitch in ME 2. follows u on mission , to find broker destroys broker.child remains secret due to Cerberus backstabbing does not tell Shep want to tell him during ME3 but she busy searching Thur archives ,Shep in jail . reapers attack, child not mentioned. Pick up ME 4 from the destroyed DLC (if you chose it ) she searches for you to tell u & save u but this is done as a series of flash back sequences as you get to know the young asari pilot named David Tsoni as you play ME4 & what ever that game story is how's that for a story ark.

FrightfulActions4738d ago

@KMC

I won't even bother to mention how insanely out-of-character it would be for Liara to hide such a secret from Shepard. Even if she did, the Shadow Broker and Illusive Man would had found out. Hell potentially even the Asari government would find out, don't underestimate how good they can all be at getting information. Shadow Broker makes his business to know more about you than you know about yourself.

There is no way she would had been able to keep a child like that a secret. It would had been not only known-of, but also captured and used as leverage by either The Shadow Broker or The Illusive Man.

Such a game simply wouldn't work. Not only would it rely on the player having chosen Destroy ending and gotten enough EMS to get 'Shepard's Alive' ending, it would also require that you had romanced Liara in the first game. Even though she does meld with you regardless, she does so strictly out of necessity to help find Saren, she doesn't even know the Commander at that point I don't see why she'd swipe his/her dna for a kid. Asari don't even start thinking about kids until they're much older (as in, centuries old). She's still very much a child by Asari standards.

Even then, however, even if all that happened, it still doesn't play out. She would had been showing signs of pregnancy by the end of Mass Effect, unless she did it as the Love Interest. If that was the case, she would not had been able to spend the year searching for Shepard's body. It's hard to be in firefights when you have a potbelly carrying a life inside. I doubt even a tough biotic Asari would put a child in such danger.

Now I can go with Liara having his kid after ME3, why not. But it would only be a story mechanic, it wouldn't lead out into its own game. It would had relied on you either being the love interest of Liara, or in the very least having accepted her 'farewell gift' at the last mission.

Also, may I mention how odd it would be for an Asari to be named David? Asari may not have a gender bias like most races, since Asari are a strictly female race, but they are aware of the stigma gender carries along other species. There may not be such thing as a "manly name" to the Asari since they have no males, but they'd still acknowledge how humanly male the name David is. Can you picture an Asari smiling and saying "Hello my name is David."

My thoughts? It'd be an okay fanfiction for those heavy ShepxLiara fans, but far as making a game out of it? Despite the crappy ending of ME3 I don't think even they're willing to sink that low into the plot-hole riddled trash-bin. Maybe I'm just being hopeful.

Panzerkanzler4738d ago

James Vega? Wow, the character I like the least. As far as I'm concerned it was a huge mistake to introduce new characters in ME3. And his character is a bit too predictable and unappealing. If I'm forced to play as him in future ME games then...no thanks.

KMCROC544738d ago

To bad he wasn't introduced in the first one i would have killed him instead of Allenco.

IronFistChinMi4737d ago

I believe there will be an ME4 set after the events of ME3, with the creators of The Reapers the likely protagonists. The rumoured Leviathan DLC is said to touch upon them more and coupled with how The Catalyst swiftly moved the conversation on when queried about them, that tells me it was hiding something.

I agree that the multiple endings of ME3 will make it difficult for Bioware to create an ME4 where we can choose which scenario we ended on and go from there, but given how they've treated endings so far, they probably have their one true canon ending.

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EmperorDalek4738d ago

At most, there will be rescue DLC... and that's a long shot.

FrightfulActions4738d ago

I agree that any Rescue DLC is a longshot, basically since it would only effect one ending and wouldn't likely include much fighting and would just be a series of cutscenes.

But DLC in general, for ME3, still has potential. There is the Leviathan DLC. That hasn't be official announced I don't believe but it is heavily suggested. Could be wrong though. Also what about some Retake Omega dlc? I can't be the only one who was upset that you didn't get the option to help Aria take back Omega from Cerberus hands.

I had fully expected that to be part of the questline to obtain the merc packs under her rule. Turned out all I had to do was basically walk around the Citadel some and talk to people.

Plus opening up Omega again will give us another potential visiting hub other than just he Citadel. Another place for shops and a few side quests maybe. Would at least help make the game feel bigger, kinda lame that you only have one place you can visit whenever, especially after being spoiled by the first two games that had numerous world hubs you could visit whenever you wanted.

EmperorDalek4738d ago

Omega DLC is inevitable. I also hope it brings Aria as a squad member, and I would buy it instantly if it has an explorable Omega. It felt ripped out of the game.

Panzerkanzler4737d ago

Emperor: Indeed, it felt ripped out. Just like I thought that Javik felt ripped out of the game once I did his mission, went through all his dialogues and noticed how often he interacted with others in the game. I still firmly believe BW lied when they claimed Javik wasn't axed from the original game only to be used to make extra cash as a shameless dlc. Perhaps they finished Omega to and are just waiting for the right moment to re-release it to us ;P

LAWSON724738d ago

There will def be me4 too bad it will never be as good as me1

Nate-Dog4737d ago

If Shepard is alive, and there will be another game featuring him (after the events of ME3), then that either means they'll bring him back from the dead again (which will be a pretty lame route to take since that surely means Shepard can just always say from now oh "Oh there's a high risk of death in this mission? Who cares they'll just revive me again so I don't even need to try and stay alive HURR"), or it would mean that they will make the Destroy ending the canon ending, which would take away the whole "make your own choices / have your own endings" thing. (Or they will even make the refusal ending the canon ending and the game will be in the same sort of time and maybe Shepard will have a chance to beat the Reapers a different way, etc.)

I don't see a direct sequel at all and never did, but ME4? Of course, Bioware and EA won't let such a successful franchise die after 3 games, they can go anywhere with it too. Into the far future, into the past, spin-offs with characters we already know, MMO, the possibilities are endless for them.

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Inside the ‘Dragon Age’ Debacle That Gutted EA’s BioWare Studio

The latest game in BioWare’s fantasy role-playing series went through ten years of development turmoil

In early November, on the eve of the crucial holiday shopping season, staffers at the video-game studio BioWare were feeling optimistic. After an excruciating development cycle, they had finally released their latest game, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, and the early reception was largely positive. The role-playing game was topping sales charts on Steam, and solid, if not spectacular, reviews were rolling in.

HyperMoused10d ago

Its easy they called the die hard fans people in their nerd caves who will buy anything and then went woke to reach modern audiences....insulting the nerds in their caves along the way showing utter contempt for their fan base. very hapy it failed and any company who insults their fan base and treat their customers with contempt and insults, in future, i also hope fail.

neutralgamer199210d ago

It’s disappointing but not surprising to see what's happening with Dragon Age: The Veilguard and the broader situation at BioWare. The layoffs are tragic — no one wants to see talented developers lose their jobs. But when studios repeatedly create games that alienate their own fanbase, outcomes like this become unfortunately predictable.

There’s a pattern we’re seeing far too often: beloved franchises are revived, only to be reshaped into something almost unrecognizable. Changes are made that no one asked for, often at the expense of what originally made these games special. Then, when long-time fans express concern or lose interest, they’re told, “This game might not be for you.” But when those same fans heed that advice and don’t buy the game, suddenly they're labeled as toxic, sexist, bigoted, or worse.

Let’s be clear: the overwhelming majority of gamers have no issue with diversity, LGBTQ+ representation, or strong female leads. In fact, some of the most iconic characters in gaming — like Aloy, Ellie, or FemShep — are proof that inclusivity and excellent storytelling can and do go hand in hand. The issue arises when diversity feels performative, forced, or disconnected from the narrative — when characters or themes are inserted not to serve the story, but to satisfy a corporate DEI checklist. Audiences can tell the difference.

When studios chase approval from a vocal minority that often doesn’t even buy games — while simultaneously dismissing loyal fans who actually do — they risk not just the success of individual titles, but the health of their entire studio. Telling your core customers “don’t buy it if you don’t like it” is not a viable business strategy. Because guess what? Many of us won’t. And when the game fails commercially, blaming those very fans for not supporting it is both unfair and self-defeating.

Gamers aren’t asking for less diversity or less progress. We’re asking for better writing, thoughtful character development, and a respect for the franchises we’ve supported for decades. When you give people great games that speak to them — whether they’re old fans or new players — they will show up. But if you keep making games for people who don’t play them, don’t be surprised when those who do stop showing up

Armaggedon9d ago

I thought the writing and character development were fine. Sometimes things just dont resonate with people.

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EA Isn’t Changing Pricing Strategy for Now After Nintendo & Xbox Announce $80 Games

EA just hosted its quarterly financial conference call, and its executives have been asked to comment about the recent price hikes for games.

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Electronic Arts Claims "Strong" End of Fiscal Year as Split Fiction Has Sold Nearly 4 Million Units

Today, Electronic Arts announced its financial results for the fourth quarter of its fiscal year 2025, alongside the full year.
Split Fiction has sold nearly 4 million copies, and the next battlefield is confirmed for a release by March 2026 with a reveal this Summer.

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