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Crytek: 'The future of consoles is free-to-play'

Just a few weeks after Crytek saying that they are going free-to-play in the future, now Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli reinforces the idea and states that the platform holders just aren’t willing to accept digital-only and free-to-play online games.

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PopRocks3594744d ago

Doubt it. Current generation consoles don't make it easy for F2P games to coexist. Playstation 3 only has one (with another on the way I think) while the other two sit around with zip.

However, I heard the Wii U's infrastructure is more open and supports F2P. I'll be darned if the other two don't follow suit with their upcoming consoles and corresponding network upgrades.

alexkayl4744d ago

I guess it just takes one of them to take the risk (and reap the rewards) and the others will immediately jump aboard.

However, since the PS3 (for example) has a couple of F2P games, rejecting Warface doesn't seem like a sensible option, but we'll see how things turn out.

PopRocks3594744d ago

Seems like a no-brainer for me. Throw some free games to your audience to get them involved with the network and maybe they'll get more conventional games later.

For example, if Wii U got the non-vanilla version of TF2, I would be quite pleased.

zeal0us4744d ago

Sony accept F2P more than even the 2 corporations.

Nintendo had that E3 Ghost Recon Online Presentation

MS had a few MMO titles(excluding ff11) in the works but most dev would just trash the 360 development. Beside MS would most likely require XBL Gold if there was any F2P mmos coming to the 360 so truthfully it wouldn't be F2P.

pixelsword4743d ago

this article needs research. I can play DC Universe online from my PS3 right now for free, and Dust 514 is also free to play, so why would Crytek have problems when they aren't even going to be the first F2P game on the PS3?

gaffyh4743d ago

Crytek are probably saying this because none of the companies want to distribute the game for free, so even if it is free to play, it would take up space on the PS Store and XBLM, and it would take up bandwidth. And Sony charge publishers for the bandwidth usage of their games, and Microsoft do a similar thing I believe in some way.

sikbeta4743d ago

ALL games F2P @ the same time and you'll see just a bunch survive, everyone else will be f@*ed and then blame on something else and jump to another fad...

BattleAxe4742d ago

I think Microsoft would have to exit the gaming business for that to happen.

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vividi4744d ago

sony has 2, DC and free realms

ABizzel14743d ago

PS Home can be considered F2P since it has games in it as well.

MAG is now F2P, and I'm sure there are others.

FunAndGun4743d ago

@dead_eye

KZ3 is not F2P. it is just a demo up to level 10, then you have to buy the game if you want to keep playing.

not the same as a Free to Play game.

miyamoto4743d ago

For the PS Vita is Phantasy Star Online 2 by Sega.

And Mobile Suit Gundam Battle Operation for the PS3 by Namco Bandai baby!

Freemium games galore!

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WeskerChildReborned4743d ago

Technically two with free realms which is not really worth mentioning.

humbleopinion4743d ago

Microsoft already announced Ascend which is going to be their first F2P game.
I recall that Joyride was also supposed to be F2P, but unfortunately they turned it to a Kinect game (and then released the sequel as a regular arcade game).

alexkayl4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

Things are starting to change, but a couple of games each year are still not enough to push more developers to it.

dead_eye4743d ago

So what your saying is until Ascend is released and we know it's f2p then it's probably not a good idea to count it as one just yet.

DragonKnight4743d ago

Sorry but, if you are required to pay for Live Gold in order to access the online to play the f2p game, then it's not f2p. Free to play means that it costs you literally nothing to play the game, which will NEVER happen on a Microsoft console.

humbleopinion4742d ago

@dead_eye,

Yep, that's what I'm saying. There have also been countless F2P games expected to hit the consoles like Huxley and Conan, and eventually nothing came out of it.

On the other hand, coming to think about it The X360 already supports a number of entirely f2p games - only these are not MMOs. Aegis Wing is a free game available for everyone (either Gold or Silver members), some sponsored games were also available for free in the past, and sometimes there's the occasional free table in pinballFX (which is also free to download, and you have to pay for individual tables). So I guess DragonKnight got it all wrong.

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badz1494743d ago

especially regarding Sony. like many here have said, Free Realms, DCU Online and soon Dust514, I don't see how Sony is against the idea. in fact, HOME is a F2P game too

alexkayl4743d ago

If they rejected Warface, then they're not entirely clear on their intentions. And by having a couple of F2P games doesn't mean they want every game to be free.

DragonKnight4743d ago

Maybe they rejected Warface because they don't like Crytek. Ever thought of that? Maybe they don't want to spend bandwidth dollars on a game they don't think is worth having on PSN? There could be any number of reasons for Warface to have been rejected, Crytek is just whining.

Tachyon_Nova4743d ago

What he was saying is that they have a dependence on retail they arent willing to shrug off, which is clearly true...

badz1494743d ago

maybe instead of using PSN, CRYTEK wants to have a total control over Warface like Konami was with MGO and their stupid Konami ID. who knows

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kevinsheeks4743d ago

They should follow it if you can't adapt you get left behind

ATi_Elite4743d ago

"I've believed for about a year now that as soon as tablets can stream on to TVs, then there's no reason why you should buy a console anymore."

Smartest thing I've heard from Crytek in awhile! Too bad this is OLD News cause many Tablets and Smartphones have video out ports already allowing them to Stream to TV's, buy a $30 dongle and connect them to your TV!!

Seriously though about time the Next Gen consoles get released, Tablets will be just as powerful as The Next Gen Consoles.

Now as far as Free 2Play Crytek is right about console/Retail/hardware business model cause Sony/MS/Ninty need stores to sell their hardware.

F2p works very very well on the PC and has the PC raking in the money! Zynga, Valve, Blizzard, Nexon EACH makes over a Billion dollars yearly just on GAMES and PC gaming as a whole made over $18 Billion last year!

Consoles will incorporate more F2P and micro-transactions into their games next Gen especially with the influx of MMO's Next Gen on consoles.

Sony/MS/Ninty are gonna have to quickly change their business models to keep up with changing Tech. The PC being the Leader has already shown the world how it's done.

EA has several F2P titles with each game bringing in over $3 million a month and growing and these are not even close to being AAA titles.

vortis4743d ago

According to the stats, though, mobile gaming (tablets/phones/etc.,) absolutely pale in comparison to home console retail numbers:

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

Tyre4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

@ATI Elite U just say this cause ur a PC gamer and a console hater. F2P the way Crytek means it, is OK(they mean well). But most other companies want to deceive gamers with F2P and charge the hell out of DLC after u started a gimped half made game...it is a horrible way to get gamers into the online only gaming. Just because it is too early for streaming only, they make up this stuff, so we get used to online only gaming and less ownership and not question it. They can try but i hope gamers will not fall for this deception. They can stick F2P up their *rses. This will result in segregation amongst gamers, pay to play the rest of the game, we will all be scattered and they will make loads of unjustified profits.

Ducky4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

^ You're acting like this hasn't already happened with existing paid games.

Let's go over the elements of a typical F2P game:
- Everyone can play the game
- Maps and game-modes will typically be available to all, but paying members might get earlier access
- Players can pay for 'boosts' which let them unlock things either instantly or faster than normal
- Players can pay for exclusive cosmetic items that have little impact on gameplay, but look fancy
- Players can purchase exclusive paid-only items (such as weapons if it's an FPS game) which might give the paying members an advantage in gameplay (a characteristic of 'pay-to-win' games)

Ok, now, look at Battlefield3 and its premium model. It has almost all of the traits of a F2P game, except it isn't free. (You can also purchase 'unlock kits' which will unlock items without having to level up)
... and it would appear that other games are also starting to do something similar by offering 'passes' that offer similar bonuses to players who pay more than everyone else.

avengers19784743d ago

and then they will kill us with micro transactions... I would rather pay 60$ for the game and not have to spend 100$ to make it worth while.

specialguest4743d ago

There will be companies that will abuse the F2P model. We'll end up paying more in the long run for what would have been considered a "complete" retail version of a game.

Persistantthug4743d ago

There are some Japanese/Korean based ones like UNCHARTED WATERS ONLINE, and another called ANGEL ONLINE.....they are in the Japanese store.

Then of course we've got FREE REALMS, DC UNIVERSE, KILLZONE 3, and the upcoming DUST 514.

xAlmostPro4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

Hi Crytek, prove it and make Crysis 3 or the next edtion of Crysis 2 free to play for us all :)

Crazyglues4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

I don't see how this could work, when you start to give people stuff for free then free is all they want.. it kinda takes away the value..

Kinda like if you can download the Music for free why would you want to pay for it?

-But it would be interesting to see if they can actually make this work, but I don't see how it's going to make people want to buy it...?

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ATi_Elite4742d ago

The PC has been doing F2P for years now and the PC made $18 Billion dollars last year and will surpass that this year.

F2P lets you play games for free and spend money on them to customize weapons, characters, or level up faster.

Free 2 play works Great for everyone and the PC has proven it which is why consoles will be getting this business model now.

If you have questions about F2P ask me i know almost everything about it and can give you a Long list of great F2P games.

I'm currently in the Firefall MP Beta and this is a AAA+ F2P game and it's awesome and I haven't even touched the SP mode yet!

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Crazyglues4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

Yeah that's a good example, but will Dust514 make it's money back, the money it cost to make the game..?? -we shall see, it's not a successful idea just yet, but I guess we will see if this works..

and if this is what Gamers want.

but would they have made a better profit if the game was just a little cheaper instead of free? I can't wait to check it out, I hope the game is really good, this will be a good test of this idea of making games free to play. -if they can make it work.

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THC CELL4744d ago

I highly doubt Sony are against it, intact it looks to me Sony are pushing it

fermcr4744d ago (Edited 4744d ago )

Sony supports F2P... on their consoles and PC.

Microsoft and Nintendo don't give anything for free. If you want, you pay.

Series_IIa4743d ago

MS Flight is free and so is Age of Empire online

alexkayl4743d ago

But that's on PC, not on Xbox 360...

shackdaddy4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

Nintendo gives out free games all the time and their wiiu supports f2p games and microtransactions...

Microsoft is the company that doesnt support it (on their consoles at least)

doctorstrange4744d ago

Dust, PlayStation Home, that terrible Treasures of Montezuma Blitz

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai14d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX14d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK14d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog13d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor13d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje14d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra14d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje13d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac14d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex14d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje13d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter12d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake14d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos14d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8614d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos14d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8614d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr13d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8613d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2314d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos14d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker14d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg13d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake14d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr13d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B14d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

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Obscure_Observer34d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj32d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.

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I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv7239d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv7238d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv7238d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr39d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation39d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde38d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z50138d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer36d ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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