PS3 to Continue to Close Sales Gap with 360 in January

The Xbox 360 outsells the PS3 but the ratio is dropping and will hit another low as the sales gap closes in January, according to prediction market simExchange.

"Our NPD Preview report stated that the prediction market expected the Xbox 360 to outsell the PS3 1.7 to 1 in a closing gap; actual [December] results were 1.58 to 1, a significant jump from November 2007's 1.8 to 1 sales ratio. For January, the prediction market expects Xbox 360 sales to ring in at 358,000 units compared to PS3 sales at 229,000 units, a 1.56 to 1 sales ratio," explained analyst Jesse Divnich.

[Blademask]

Google back around the PS2's launch. Same exact articles were being written about how its impossible for a game system to catch up because one has been out longer.

Game on.

[AceLuby]

Don't you know, the 360 vs PS3 is nothing like the DC vs PS2, even though you're right. The only difference is that the install base is larger, which would make more sense since the last gen sold WAY more consoles than the previous gen (PS1).

DC: Out first, games on CD instead of DVD, better online, easier to program for at first

That's nothing like the 360 which was out first, games on DVD instead of HD format, better online, and easier to program for at first

[HuntTheWumpus]

Yea, Sega and MS are so much a like.. NOT!

And Ace I will say that you could say the same thing about the PS2 vs XBox1. It had superior hardware, dedicated HDD, etc and that didn't win a console war.

[fjtorres]

1- Sega let SONY FUD software developers into *not* supporting the Dreamcast. Remember, EA did *nothing* on DC. And they *told* everybody they were doing nothing.
2- Sega ran out of money to keep DC on the market long enough for developers to change their minds. An extra six months woulda done the trick.

This time around, nobody is going to argue MS does't have the money to stay in the game, expecially since they are now making a profit off 360, and this time around the developers are in fact supporting the earlybird platform to the hilt, the 360.

Project trends all you want, PS3 is not catching up to the 360 installed base this year. (Not unless Ms stops manufacturing and selling the 360 altogether.) In fact, PS3 is going to have a hard time getting to the (twice revised) goal of 10 million installed base by March 08 (it was originally supposed to be march 07, remember?).

Not saying PS3 is going to follow Dreamcast out of business or anything like that, but do be realistic, children: a ten million installed base edge (however achieved) is not easily erased. Not in a three-way race, and not in a era when Japan is not solidly in the Sony camp. Simple test: in the 15 months of its existence, how many times has Sony sold over 1 million PS3s in a month?
To catch 360 this year, Sony needs to *outsell* 360 by a million a month, every single month for a year.
Ain't gonna happen.
Best Sony can aspire to is to catch up to 360's monthly rate, worldwide, and remain 10 million behind.
Now, as the old saying goes: "When going to a fight it is wisest to carry two bags, one to dish it out and one to receive." Since Microsoft is *not* going to bug out of the console war any time soon, think about what they can do to make Sony's life harder. Easiest thing they could do is to cut prices.
Do you think Sony would much enjoy a price war?
This they can catch up to the 360 monthly rate if its selling at $229, $279, and $379?
How about $199-$249-$329?
MS can afford to go that low.
Can Sony?
Yeah, Sony can catch up to Nintendo in monthly sales if they hit $299, but *when* is that going to happen? 09? 10?
Not many features left to take out of the PS3 that would let Sony cut the price by a quarter.
Have you guys actually tried listening to the MS execs once in a while? They've already said they are ready for a price war this year.
They welcome it.
Last year, MS was betting on the big-ticket games to keep them afloat; this year they're switching tactics and going for pricing as a weapon.
They *said* so as far back as last year.
Project all you want; Sony *will* do better this year--they can hardly do worse than they did last year. But don't assume MS is going to stand still and play dead for Sony. They haven't before and have no reason to do it now.
This console war is going to last a loonnngg time...
Peace!

[Double-Edged]

The PS3 vs 360 is like...PSP vs DS...

when it comes to games... that what it is.
PS3 sucks man. what games od you play on that? Uncharted?? 360 has got games like that already.. lol.

PS3 is a joke.. and the people complaining about RROD are PS3 fanboys who needs a good argument against them not having games LOL.

Blademask.. you fail. with your BluRay player.

EDIT: you can play bioshock on your PS3???? please.... dont bring you PC into this console war. that's pathetic and very pus5y like to hinde behind a PC library LOL. COD4?? have that...

so you say your collection is ratchet and warhawk?? the games that dont avg 90's?? are you sure??? is that your final answer??? if so.. please say yes. you sure you dont wanna add Lair???

[heyheyhey]

even though you are an idiot i am not going to say any angry stuff im just going to answer your question rationally

as a ps3 owner i have many games to play- i love playing COD4, resistance and warhawk online

ratchet and clank is one of my fave single-player games, uncharted, stranglehold and heavenly sword were INCREDIBLE rents, mastering ninja gaiden sigma is great, RPG's like oblivion an folklore eat up a lot of time, armored core 4 is fun, pro evolution soccer is addictive, super stardust HD and super rub a dub give me my PSstore kicks, motorstorm is great online- just finished playing assassins creed

as you can see i have PLENTY of games to play on my ps3 and there are many more to come (MGS4, DMC4, GTA4, FF13 and versus 13, LBP, resistance 2, killzone 2, Haze)

and any game that interests me on the 360 i have played on PC (bioshock, gears etc) which leaves the only game that i want to play on 360- Mass Effect, but with EA acquiring BioWare im sure a ps3 port is just around the corner

[Gina-get-u]

@ fjtorres

I agree 100% with your comments, but I'm afraid a lot of what you say will be lost on most of the regulars here. I myself don't comment much anymore because it's pretty obvious that most people here aren't looking for a genuine discussion and exchange of information. It's more a game of one-upmanship to them. It took a while for me to catch on, but now that I know what's going on I feel stupid for having taken things seriously.

Anyway, since you're here, let me pick up on what you said. I have been expecting MS to apply price pressure on Sony for some time now. A lot of people tend to forget that MS hasn't even bothered to respond to the most recent price reduction on the PS3. Previously, MS tended to match each Sony price cut step-for-step. That they didn't do it this time indicates a lot of confidence in their ability to move hardware at the current price point. This was particularly surprising to me because with the migration to 65nm fab completed for both the CPU and GPU, I imagine that manufacturing costs per unit have gone way down. However, the December sales figures prove that MS's confidence was well founded. Now that the holiday revenue season is history, I expect some very agressive measures by MS on pricing. Don't be shocked by how low things may go. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a $199.00 SKU by December '08. I'm not buying any analyst prediction unless that is factored in.

[2 cents]

I`ve been playing the 360 since launch and i bought a ps3 2 months ago. Of course i used to support the 360 but it let me down so many times, there was so many problems with it i given up. True the ps3 has no games and i still play the 360 more, but the way the ps3 runs plus all the extras has won my heart. The x360s reliabilty made made me change my mind. And fu*k the waranty, i want the thing to work period.
Now i cosider the x360 a time killer untill the real games come out.

[The Killer]

i always said this before, this place is not a serious place, and u cant be clever with fools! so sometimes i say some fanboyish cooments but some guys take me seriously but then i have to explain to them again!! this place rarely talk common since so why should i or u fight a losing fight just to say u/we thing rational? lets enjoy the fanboy war and be a little fanboys our selfs just for the fun part of it(and do get too deep in to it)!

the reason ps2 killed dreamcast is because of some reasons
1) it had better hardware
2) it had DVD
3) its a playstation brand
4) ps1 was still kicking

and the reason why ps3 will do the same this gen is almost the same as ps2

ps3 reasons to win
1) has blue ray player(the best)
2) free online
3) ps2 is still kicking
4) it has better hardware
5) brand name

and please dont start talking of ps3 have no games because thats just an opinion, i could say the best games ever are (heavenly sword,uncharted,warhawk,assass in creed,cod4,etc)

[tomfoolery]

2.2 - DENIAL!!!!!!!!
2.1 - To all REAL gamers....................
1.5 - HARDCORE DENIAL!!!!!!!!
Is the Sony PS3s fanboys greatest attribute!
Grow up BLIND PLAYTSTATION FOLLOWERS...........the jig is up!
At least in America,the worlds biggest gaming market.
The 360 has earned 1st place game console (WII not included) this round.
We're talking next gen consoles here folks.....not the last gen graphics wise WII!
NOTE....I own a WII and think it's cool for what it is.
tom

PS PS..........
to new people who come here(n4g)......heads up.
This is a completely Sony PS3 biased site......to let you know the truth.

Another truth is..........their system is losing this console war for a lot of reasons,so don't buy into any of this Sony fanboy nonsense in here.......honestly.
tom

PS #2
I will post this as much as possible on every thread so people know the truth about this joke of a Sony overwhelmed site!

[Armyless]

PS2 is fresh on the vine (ripened ain't they a bit? but yes, they sell on the vine...")

So what's next for everybody... Are Wii gamer's going to challenge PS2 owners with a last-gen ps2-mote with whored copies of your favorite games from the PS2?

The technology isn't far behind, you have the king of last gen pulling up next to you offering a trade of partnerships for gaming needs. I'm pretty sure a gaming "share" is in order. PS2/Wii controller for PS2 ports? come, on, it's all about the games, right?

Okami is coming to Wii after all, isn't it?

[DuneBuggy]

IMO a large part of the PS2's dominance was that it doubled as a DVD player (it was my first DVD player).Anyone else remember what a DVD player cost then?
VHS to DVD was a jump consumers embraced and the PS2 was timed right.

Where not all convinced about Blu Ray though.Im not giving up my DVD's yet.

[Synex]

Why do you have to give up your DvDs? Just play them in the Blu-ray player, it plays both you know....

[eclipsegryph]

That was kind of the deal with jumping from VHS to DVD... it was a huge jump, and lots of people wanted to make it. The PS2 made that transition easy.

This time around it's not so simple, though. There's no real big reason to make a transition from DVD to HD movies. The PS3 has to have more going for it than just the "new format" angle this time.

[akaFullMetal]

bluray will help i think, but it wont be the winning hit for sony, and that is the games and getting the ps3 price lower thats what they need to do in order to catch up.

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

how can you close the gap when your still getting outsold?

the gap isnt closing its just widening slower.

[kevoncox]

Lol...
Bubbles for you sir. It's simple math that these guys can't fathom.
To narror the gap you need to be making progress not losing slower.

Example.
You fall in quicksand. If you struggle you will drown in 30 mins.
If you sit still you drown in an hour. Either way you're drowning.
Maximizing your time doesn't keep you from drowing. You aren't making progress against not drowning. Find a way to get out the damn quicksand.

Sony needs to start outselling the 360 to be making progressed

[Blitzed]

PS3 to Continue to Close Sales Gap. 'Sales Gap' being the key words.

I won't argue install base and market share etc., there is nothing to argue about, numbers are numbers. However to use an analogy of sinking in quicksand to describe the PS3 when its first year sales numbers are similar to the 360 (which you both obviously agree was a success) is foolish. Then again, what fanboy driven comments aren't foolish?

[rawd]

PS2 FTW

So, where are the original Xbox sales figures

[jcgamer]

I gotta wear shades...

[jiggyjay]

yeah to hide all the tears your that are coming out of your eyes because we all know deep down inside you know that the future is gloomy! Either way you Sony Fanboys say it 2007 was suppose to the year the PS3 was to at least sell as much as the 360! with the introduction of the 40gb PS3 and games that came out it still got a whuppin from the 360! I'll admit that teh 40gb ps3 is a way better deal than the premium 360 so its amazing to me that the 360 was still able to thumped it! Good luck sony in 2008 because your going to need a miracle to come out on top on this race..

[Keyser]

is hardly a fanboy but nice try.

The PS3 does have a bright future and current owners are loving it. No need to downplay that.

As a 360 I like that I have my 360 and have the option to play great games on it as I do my PS3.

You don't have to be a fanboy to like the system you own.

[Meus Renaissance]

I wouldn't say the Xbox 360 is selling at an unattainable rate, but the issue is that Sony is really struggling to get competitive figures. Microsoft's growth from the previous year has been 2%. So it's not impossible on Sony's part.

[AceLuby]

Serious question here:

Didn't they sell 9 Mil consoles in 2006? Don't they have only 17 Mil consoles sold? That means they sold 8 Mil this year right? I could be wrong, but didn't they sell less consoles this year?

[Meus Renaissance]

The article is talking about North American figures, as am I. Microsoft sold 4.5million consoles. In 2007, they sold 4.6million consoles which is a 2% increase

[Lucreto]

There was an article earlier today saying the gap was widening. I don't know what to believe.

[Boink]

I laughed and noticed the same thing.

[Bladestar]

ehhh? what? ohhh you mean in terms of montly sells... not total installbase... because the xbox 360 isntallbase in america is 3:1...
But I agree eventually the PS3 might sell the same as the xbox 360... but by then the total installbase might be 4:1 or even more...

Also, why are they mentioning PS2 for?

Why aren't they counting Original Xbox games... or even better.. PC... since that's also a microsoft platform... hell ever heard of Games for windows? how about those games available on the xbox 360 and the PC... how come those are not being counted?

[Meus Renaissance]

Actually, if you compare the sales of the PS3 with the Xbox 360's first or second year, you'll see that the ratio is 1.4 in favour of Microsoft. We can't estimate the growth the PS3 will have in its second year, but Microsoft had a 2% hardware growth.

It's important people remember that the PS3 is only one year old when making ratio calculations as they tend to divide total hardware sold for the 360, in its life time, with the PS3's when trying to talk about performance of both consoles.

Despite common thought, the Xbox 360 has been outselling the PS3 by an average of 1.4. Not 2 or 3 as it once did during the spring.

[InYourMom]

of how much it's being outsold by, but you have to actually outsell the 360 in large numbers to actually close the install base gap.

The 360 is still outselling the PS3 and that is after a hefty price cut and the introduction of the 40gig SKU. MS is just 1 good price cut away from going into mass market appeal.

[Meus Renaissance]

This is very true. Closing the gap is just a reason for hope, but its nothing more than that. The longer it takes to close the gap, the more unlikely it'll be for the PS3 to overtake the 360 because Sony need to have a 2:1 ratio going on ASAP for it to have a bigger market share by the end of the year.

[Lucreto]

For it to be Mass Market it needs all genres and as we see it all the sales are in one genres FPS and Halo proves it.

PS3 has more diversity and always has and thats why I have one (that and I hate online play)

I expect LBP will have Wii type sales in Japan and Europe and that will close the gap.

[jessupj]

Sony could very well match any price cut M$ introduces. There was an article a week back stating the manufacting cost of the PS3 is just over 400 now. I think Sony is prepared for the next xbox price cut.

[HarryEtTubMan]

The PS3 is DEFIANTELY selling more competitivly with Microsft now even at a 400$ high price with no games. The PS3 is really only a year old and people are waiting for it to becoe cheaper and more games. Its coming. The PS3 is going to outsell the 360 more and more.

[Meus Renaissance]

Read my reply to Blade

[Double-Edged]

360 has games.
PS3 doesnt.

okay.. if your a PS3 owner.
please post a picture of your PS3 and your so called games.
and I will post a picture with my 360 and my so called games.

and we'll see... which system really has games.. and which is moving only by format...

[captainjy]

That's an understatement. The 360 has more customers, more games that are better and the best online service and the numbers prove it. You can spin it any way you want to, but regardless, the 360 is rolling the PS3 and keeping great pace with with a console that is $100 less.

[Liquid Ocelot]

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[lonestarmt]

What point does that make. You could be buying every crappy game there is on the 360 along with the good ones, with a system that has been out over a year more. You better have more games. I'm at work so i can't give you a pic but i can tell you.

Motorstorm
fall of man
ninja gaiden sigma
dnystany warriors gundam
folklore
call of duty 4
heavenly sword
Guitar hero 3
uncharted
assainsans creed
rachet and clank FTOD
NBA 2k7
madden 2007
virtural fighter 5
stranglhold
bladstorm
Warhawk

thats just ps3 and with someone who has a life thats enough for one year. not only do I have those, since sony didn't backstap ps2 owners like M$ did with xbox owners and still make games on ps2, this is what i have for ps2 games that I got this year.

wild arms 5
persona 3
growlanswer hertiage of war
tales of the abyss(last year game game but got it this year)
suikoden V(last year game but i got it this year)
diseaga 3
soul nomad
king of fighters XI
naruto unltimate ninja 2

not bad eh? and thats just games this year. Gosh i spend too much money on games. Man PS2 is still kicking rpg ass

[power of Green]

VG charts says the gap is closing?, according to the only so called proof(VGC) the PS3 has been losing its lead it had a for a few weeks(LOL) now, only 7 thousand a week world wide now.

[darkside]

My 2cents.

Last Gen King PS2 had:

1. PlayStation brand
2. Japanese Devoplers
3. THE CRAZY AMOUNT OF JRPG games
4. Sony exclusive
5. 1 gen DVD player
6. Fan base
7. PlayStation countries: Japan, Europe, Part of the US and others
8. FF, MGS, GTA, DMC, and alot more
9. i'm sure there is more ...

For PS3 to be king this year is hard (note: Wii not include in this because IT IS STILL a last gen system!), I know xbox360 is going to be a hard console to beat. xbox360 strong hold is the US. No questions about that, and people had to buy more then one xbox360. I'm sure if the PS3 breaks down as much as xbox360 number would be a little different. But as all PS fanboys should know this is no walk in the park for the PS3. Because all things apply this year would not be the same as it was last year(as mention above). Only time will tell. Game On!!

Play Beyond!!!

[Double-Edged]

Post a picture of you PS3 and it's collection.
and i'll post my 360 collection.

and we will see which is really a gaming system

EDIT: bored...noo.. you bored?? or is that you really can't post your PS3 collection???

wow... pure excuses.. when your system is put to the test, you pus5y out.. LOL

Edit: Maddens// where is it??... . .. oh there it is... okay... I said PS3 collection... not your whole gaming library. although your missing PS1... but no worries.

[kingboy]

Xbox live down again? sorry just asking

[Lucreto]

I would post my 10 games with 3 more on the way before GDC. But I suspect you have more and I am Conservative on what games I buy so I don't buy them for the sake of it. If you could my entire PS brand I have over 150 games.

@below Nice collection ot of that I have less than 5.

[Maddens Raiders]

Mmm..ok

[darkside]

wow some of the games you have there is old school! nice :)

[Devr]

What's the point? Of course you have a bigger library than most Ps3 owners, 360 has been out twice as long! :| But here, I can list some games.

Resistance
Motorstorm
Heavenly Sword
Rainbow six: Vegas
Call of Duty 4
Oblivion
Warhawk
Ratchet
Uncharted
UT3
Rock Band
Guitar Hero 3
Ninja Gaiden
Virtua Fighter 5
Super Stardust HD
Skate
Dirt
Orange Box
Assassin's Creed
FEAR
Folklore
The Darkness

I understand it's not the most epic line-up in gaming history, but how is that not enough for a consoles first year?

[pwnsause]

lol, Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, lmao, that game is worth about $100 dollars now cause its so rare, I still have my copy!, Love your collection of GAMES and MOVIES!

[Iron Man 2]

Of couse our collection of PS3 games will me a bit smaller compared to a few Xbox 360 owners collection of games,your system has been out much longer you f*cking c*nt!

[Liquid Ocelot]

Here are all my PS3 games and i apologize for the quality of the pics i don't have a very good camera.

[Liquid Ocelot]

and here is a pic of my PS3

[I Make Stuff Up]

Not sure why we're measuring d!cks, though.

[Mr Playboy]

take a look :)

http://img166.imageshack.us...

[AceLuby]

Ok, so these are rough estimates:

360 sold ~9 mil in 2006 and ~8 mil in 2007.
PS3 sold ~9 Mil in 2007 w/ 'no games'

Now lets say the 360 does as well as it did last year (which will be hard w/ no 'system sellers' confirmed yet besides GTA IV which is multi) it will be around 25 Mil consoles sold (which I predict 22-23, but I digress).

Now lets say the PS3 sells the same as it did last year, except it has MGS4, and GT5, known system sellers and modestly sells 2 Mil more consoles next year (definitely plausable if not probable). Roughly ~11 Mil consoles.

If this happens we'll be at 360 w/ 25 Mil and the PS3 w/ 20 Mil, closing the gap that could easily catch up once FF13 and God of War 3 comes out early 2009.

Now say the 360 does worse this year than last (plausable) and is only around 22-23 million consoles sold by year end. Now say GT5 and MGS4 have a bigger impact, or blu ray becomes the unified format, and Sony can sell 13 Mil consoles next year (also plausable) then we're at a dead heat in the 22-23 million consoles.

While the above isn't probable, it definitely 'could' happen, so to say that the PS3 has to sell a million consoles more than the 360 every month is just not true. 2-3 system sellers (+ God of War & FF13 announced) and it could only take a year to catch up. Again, not probable, but to discount it is ignorant.

[darkside]

it's all about how well both consoles do this year.

[power of Green]

Is the fact you think MGS4 will be a system seller when no Pro thinks it will. MGS3 sold poorly how is it going to become the 2nd of comming of Christ?.

Whats ignorant is you assuming system sellers have to pass a Sony fanboy seal of approval.

Just because you hype titles people were waiting for sence before the PS3 launched and seems to be the only warrent for the purchase doesn't mean no other devs has huge games comming on other platforms that could be system sellers just as the games you mention for PS3.

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

theres a couple things wrong with what you said. you realize that the 360 came out in 2005 and sold i believe 1.5 million consoles that year.

also if the 360 continues the trend of selling 8-10 million a year that will put the system at 25-27 million.

also thats to say they dont have a price cut. with a price cut sales will increase.

theres more point i could go over but itll take too long.

[AceLuby]

There have not been 18 Mil 360's sold. It is around 17 Mil, so if 1.5 Mil were sold in 2005, that means they sold 7.5 in 2006 and 8 Mil in 2007. So if they sold 8 Mil more they would be at 25, right where I said they would be. Where you get 8-10 Mil/ year is beyond me.

A price cut from M$ would mean a price cut from $ony. To think either company wouldn't match a price cut is ... well, it's simple economics.

MGS3 sold poorly... when did 4 Million sold become 'selling poorly' MGS2 sold 5 Million. Plus I also listed, GT5 (that will sell consoles) and God of War and FF in 2009.

My point is that it isn't impossible for them to catch up this year. Probable, I don't think so, but it is possible.

[s8anicslayer]

the only place the 360 is outselling ps3 is na,globaly the ps3 is still beating the 360

[vilmer]

This is really all that should matter.

[eagle21]

There is NO holding back Sony now. The American market is seeing it just like the rest of the world. We all knew this was going to happen. I saw NEW PS3's from existing 360 owners or ps2 owners last x-mas. They all bought at least 3 games each. 2 bought some Blu-ray films as well. All of them excited! It's done, far as I'm concern. Get ready.

[DJ]

Is probably very nervous about coming in third place for 2007, as well as having that trend continue into 2008. PS3 is outselling the 360 globally, but the 360 is still slightly dominant in North America. Once Microsoft loses their 2nd place titles in North America, however, things aren't going to look very rosy for them.

We've only gotten a glimpse of what PS3 has to offer too, so it's obvious that sales for Sony's console are only going to increase from here on out. A drop to $299 might not be seen until 2009, but if the software lineup is strong enough that might not be a problem.

[eagle21]

There would be a $299 PS3 on the market right now, if the 20gb stayed a while longer (toys r' us.com was selling it for $299 at x-mas). But I bet they will give that badboy some wi-fi, and bring it back, around the time they introduce affordable first party hard drive upgrades.

[Daytona]

The PS3 was in a deep 3rd place by "ALL & EVERYONE's" numbers.

I know you and most other sony fans think if you spread the lies enough that even you yourself will believe them.

[DJ]

But mostly everywhere else in the world it's in 2nd place for monthly/annual sales. I doubt it'll catch up to the Wii, unless Nintendo's software lineup continues to stay sparse through 2008. But even that would take a while.

[peksi]

360 is in the 3rd place globally and 2nd in the US unless there is new info on this? Unfortunately many Americans tend to think of US as the whole world.

[Sez]

i guess sony will have to drop the price of the ps3 two more times this year and have a promotional sale. a free ps3 with any purchase of a sony walkman.lol. that should boost the ps3 sales for 08.

[HCS]

FANBOYS....................... ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I swear to god, the internet is runned by blind and ignorant dorky fangoof nerds that never get laid.

WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Boink]

always has been, always will be, just ignore them and move on. there are a lot of smart comments on here if you ignore all the right people:)

[2 cents]

The article talks NA only. NA alone wont make much of a difference from a dev point of view, when the x360 is almost dead everywhere else and ps3 is outselling x360 ww. On top of that the ps3 is showing increase in sales whille the x360 will most likely remain constant as there are no huge games to attract the masses like the ps3 does. A price drop will spike sales but Sony will follow with the PS3 now being cheaper to manufacture, and a price drop will have more effect on the PS3 than on the x360.

[eagle21]

Developers are about respect (I think square said merit), and brand strength. PS3 has it all, every territory worldwide. The best third party exclusives this generation from Konami, Square, Rockstar, etc. are on Playstation 3. I am talking games that will attempt to make all-time ign 100 lists. Not just games. Don't ask why. It is what it is.

[kalistyles]

Lets see I counted 26 PS3 games there. Good collection. The thing about it not having games to play is getting old. I have 16 games myself and another 10 to 15 downloaded from the store. So whats your point Double Edge pu$$y? With the line up coming out and the fact that the PS3 outsells the 360 worldwide now for at least the past month and a half says a lot. The gap is closing and will continue to over the year. I definitely wouldn't want that junk that your playing on even with a three year guaranteed warranty. Why you ask? Its like this. I want something that I know is guaranteed to work. I don't want something that offers me a warranty that's pretty much saying that it's a guaranteed piece of crap and it's is destined to break so we'll throw you 3 years for your console that will overheat. You can guarantee it.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Random fanboy post...

Seriously though guys...it's a no-brainer. The PS3 is catching up and it will be a really close console race.

Get over yourselves!!!

[The Wood]

lucky for the ps3 that the rest of the world is bigger than NA. Who honestly couldn't see this happening. The type that lets rain hit is head then goes for an umbrella or the type that looks at the weather report and takes an umbrella before it rains, go figure

[hotrider12]

dont know if you know this but on your attachment you have no pic. of your games on it. like "maddens raiders" do food for thought, not attacking you.

[Daytona]

Sony/ps3 fans are getting so Fuk'in desperate that there trying to trash and lie at almost every opportunity they can. This is so sad that you can't accept your 3rd place console and it's mediocre games and play then, instead it's constant lies.

The Sony Defence Force is at it 24/7.

Get a life guys and move on from the constant lies and play games.

[joemomma]

Look at the top 3. lol

[TheMART]

Gap is about the same I guess

PS3 sold 8.65 mln. or so
360 sold about 17.5 mln.

Where is the catching up?

[AceLuby]

PS3 is over 9 Mil, where did you come up w/ 8.65? .65? And it sold that well with 'no games' and an 'unproven format' (blu) with stiff competition w/ the highest price point. How can sales not increase w/ proven system sellers announced, a unified HD format, and production costs cut so that they will be able to produce them for profit end of Q1 this year allowing them the ability to match any M$ price cut?

[I Make Stuff Up]

Seriously, why do you pretend to be so stupid?

Read the very FIRST sentence of the article again.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Hey! I thought you had died after the whole HD-DVD thing...

Sorry bout that, mate.

Anyway...how ya been?

Hey...let me add you on the Playstation Network...so we can play some Warhawk...

wait...

[Foliage]

Maybe I'll add you to xbox live Mart, is Xbox Live up yet? I hope my subscription doesn't end soon. The term "Xbox Live Arcade" really does make a lot of sense. You can't keep playing without paying.

[theox2g7]

u are always saying ps3 sold 9 million with no games or whatever and so hence it has done better than the 360, but in actuality it is other way around, sony already had the upper hand with ps2's credibility and the brand name, u also forget about all the negative energy 360 had with RROD and stuff with a 33% failure rate and yet they still managed to increase their hardware sales, that just goes to show u how well the 360 did because it would make sense for the ps3 to have overtaken 360 in sales rates as it has more reliable hardware and a greater bang for buck value, how many companies/products have fallen due to hardware failure? tons, however people still buy 360s more than ps3s in NA even after knowing it'll RROD after a couple months and that it doesn't have a next gen player, this at least means Microsoft is getting something right with the console's sales, sony has had the clear advantage with hardware reliability of shifting people over from faulty 360s so lack of games isn't really an excuse to slouch with the 360 especially considering they have some of the best looking console games to date as ps3 exclusives, they have rumble now, and 9 mill install base so software sales must be higher, sony have done a great job with hardware but they must overcome the software hurdle hopefully with their strong lineup in 2008, nevertheless the 360 is a highly successful console considering it's sales versus it's setbacks with the 33% or even more failure rate and all,
These figures mean nothing and naysayers on both sides will always find an excuse to bash either side, both consoles have their advantages and disadvantages, u can't go wrong with both, i have both and they are awesome and give 2 completely different experiences with their exclusives, just enjoy the games, sales figures mean nothing

[hotrider12]

your right, this site is full of jokster. just about everyone on here whin like babies. Im like: am I reading from the twilight zone script
how wacked out people are on here??. when someone with intelligents post a sound minded rational thought like "fjtorres" about whats really going on. practical and true everybody pass his opinion like its a comercial break and continue on whining.. now if sony lower the ps3 price to 299.00 it would have a chance to catch up and surpass the 360 in sales. the only thing I can say bad about the 360 is the red ring of death. I cant see myself buying a console for 399.00 and it over heat less than a year or 14 hours later on the same day I bought it. over heating and burn out. that would make me feel like I been hood winked out of my hard earned money. sony on the other hand do have reliable product most of the time that I know of personally.
if anyone on here have a rational mind pass the age of 18 can relate with me when I say: "regardless what console you may have 360,ps3,wii its all for entertainment,we all get excited playing... we all get a blast when we see a imposible move done no matter what console we're using at the time" "its for entertainment for the moment" either before we go to work,school or bed. like someone said on here who cares?? what game you got?? its like saying "my dog is bigger than your dog he barks louder and stronger than yours" crap.... you guys crack the hell out of me everyday.
coming here is better than watching a comedy show on tv. to me n4g is like a internet comedy show I'll call it "who can say the dummest thing"

[JCDenton]

This is one of the best comments I've read lately on N4G!!! It's ALL about games, not sales, attach rates, sales gap... Playing games is what matters for a REAL gamer, regardless of the platform.

You have a bubble from me! :)

[kalistyles]

I dont have any pics of my games. Here's the list that I've downloaded.
High Velocity Bowling
PAIN
High Stakes Poker
Everyday Shooter
Operation Creature Feature
Warhawk
Super Stardust HD
Rampage
Calling All Cars
Tekken 2
Mrtal Kombat II
Lemmings
Tekken 5

[360Crusader]

Something is off on this site. Some threads say the gap widens. Others say it's closing. I mean which one are we supposed to believe?

[I Make Stuff Up]

It depends which sales report the fanboys are referring to...be it world wide sales or just a specific region.
It's selective boasting.

[sonyfanonly]

YOU KNOW WHAT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE NERVOUS IS THE XBOTS THE PS3 IS CLOSING IN FAST AND THEY JSUT CANT STAND IT AND ENOUGH WITH THE PS3 HAS NO GAMES SH^T IF YOU OWNED A PS3 YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER

[hotrider12]

I see your games SWEET!!!!!! I have them all I mostly play tekken 5 and ratchet and clank t.o.d and mortal kombat 2 for now

[hotrider12]

thank you for your bubble... first one EVER!!!
p.s. I didn't make my opinion for a bubble but speaking facts and being straight up honest with everyone. none of us have true facts on what sales are truthfully are. all we have here is he say/she say unofficial word of mouth. facts from someone that wants to start a whining campaign whats better than the other console what it has or what it dont have. the bottomline is guys, whatever console you choose to buy enjoy it!!! becuz YOU BOUGHT IT!!!
buying a "ENTERTAINMENT" CONSOLE dont give any of us any rights by other gamers or by law to down grade any ones gaming experience or console
its good both system have great graphics. I realize having good crisp clear graphics is good so we all can see the character better and be impress with the background enviroment no more no less its a GAME!!! not a major issue in our life. now if only game developer would up-grade some old school games I would be satisfied

[KingJames1906]

I'll wait for January NPD for 2008. I suspect that everyones numbers will fall greatly. But the 360 will continue it's lead over the PS3.

[SoulReaper]

How will it continue to sell better then the PS3?? Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming out in March..And Devil May Cry 4 will be out next month even though its on the 360, but people known the series to be on the Playstation brand..Also it will sell a lot of PS3 in Japan..

I can name lots of exclusive games on the PS3 that will TKO the 360 games..

PS3 is actually outselling the 360 world wide..Xbots just refuse to notice it..

[The Dave]

I think people forget who was in it first. There is a very good explanation for why the playstation is more reliable and well known. Microsoft needs a push in the right direction when it comes to manufacturing a console. I had an xbox 360 for a year and half and it broke. The "re-furbished" model I got back was like a slap in the face. Couldnt read a frickin disk! Anyways, Sony knows what they are doing and I am more than happy with my PS3. Anyone who bashes playstation either cant afford it or have way too much pride elsewhere. It is without a doubt an impressive piece of technology.

[WilliamRLBaker]

close gap...in sales...i.e monthly sales...closin the gap is not enough...outselling by 400-500k each month is the only way to start reaching total sales....its not enough to match sales..cause 360 initial year of sales will still make it the leader over ps3.

Wii surpassed by geting like 200-400k sales each month since launch if not more.

And its from an analyst sorry to say but analysts aren't even right 50% of the time, and the says an 1.8:1 sales to an 1.58:1 is a big jump...um no 3:1 to 1.8:1 is a big jump...

[greg_for_sony]

the ps3 is outselling the 360 world wide now and ps3s big games are just around the corner, blue ray is going to catch on big, home will be out soon ps3 is going to kick ass in 08!!!

[hotrider12]

once again, do it really matters what console do well in 08?? for pete sakes. seem like most of you guys worry about closing the gap,monthly sales,waiting on jan. feb. march til jan. of 09 NPD report the big "Question" is will any of you guys profit money wise from any of this??
lets all be rational and practical. I'm surely not going to benefit from it financially neither will any of you nor help any sales increase by talking about it on a website. that the owners of N4G really dont care who reads it, they probaly laughing their a$$ off on a daily base. 95% of the time what we get on here is something that dont have any kind of substance of true value (concrete edvidence) solid proof from sony's NPD report card nor microsoft NPD report card nor nintendo report card on sales. what is fed to us is fish bate and as long as we are human beings we all tend to act like phranna's eating up sardine of info and spew it out on here thinking we know something or more than the next man about nothing.Im not claiming anything I dont need to know how or why ps3 works or the 360 works (it still need to be up-grade with reliability)
but what I do know and trying to get everyone focus on is its a man made machine for "ENTERTAINMENT" atari,cleco,activison,intelliv ision, saga,kanomi,nintendo,sony did not have in mind the future gamers thats you guys. to use their console to bash,insult,cuss one another out. try to figure out their percentage of growth or declines in sales. all this is crazy, if anyone can prove Im wrong try it and I'll be more than happy to introduce you to the invisble God yes he's real

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

It's like those "what if" storys like "what if" the Nazi's won or "what if" the world was realy flat. It's allways fun to pretend, isn't it droids?

WOW! it's true, look how the PS3 closed that "gap" in December :)