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Assassin’s Creed 3 not about “America Ra Ra”, won’t “shy away” from slavery says writer

Lead writer Matt Turner and I (leon) recently discussed some of the more difficult points presented by Assassin’s Creed 3′s period and setting. These include issues such as taking sides in a USA vs England conflict and the last days of slavery, something Turner refers to as "a very current dialogue”.

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coolbeans4379d ago (Edited 4379d ago )

". . .last days of slavery. . ."

Perhaps that was mistyped?

Anyway, I'm glad to hear Ubi's taking these head on, but I'll be pissed if they just tip-toe around certain aspects, like slavery. Just present a completely honest look of your fictional story like Stowe did with "Uncle Tom's Cabin."

Hopefully they dive into the Native American oppression as well, either in just a conversational sense in full-blown missions. Quite a few Indian tribes spoke out against colonists buying hides and equipment from them for less than its value and seducing Indian women (loss of their virginity before marriage would sometimes result in them being kicked out of the camp for good), raising the question of where the colonists' "faith" really lied.

Kalowest4379d ago

Its VERY F'UP when you know US history, and how this so called great nation was built.

coolbeans4379d ago

I can agree to that; but the fault falls more to history classes having a tendency to romanticize those forefathers, not on the flawed people themselves. It's tough for anyone to expect them to have the tolerance we can possess today when they themselves constantly suffered religious persecution in many parts of Europe.

iamnsuperman4379d ago (Edited 4379d ago )

"It’s not about America Ra Ra". So the reveal trailer had no patriotic tone to it... That's a joke.

Like I have said before the trailers are advertisement to North America as the AC franchise is really popular in the Europe and less so in North America (and my own opinion on why they chose an American setting-look at the feedback the reveal got compared to other AC games) but if you are going to spout stuff saying this game is going to do this and that then show it. From the trailers we have seen nothing about a slavery theme nor one about templars just an assassin killing red coats. I hope the game isn't just that and has the mentioned themes in it and this (the trailers showing a different theme) is just PR/advertising stuff.

RyuX194379d ago

Honestly I didn't think it had any patriotic tones to it. Nothing about it felt like they were promoting America as something great or anything, all I saw was a Native American dude killing other dudes.

Hufandpuf4379d ago

Say the trailer did show a slavery clip.

Fox News: "New assassin game promotes slavery"

iceman064379d ago

I don't know...Fox News might be pretty okay with that particular portrayal.

VanillaBear4379d ago

"One of the more obvious difficulties is how to structure a story on the American Revolution without making either the Americans or English look like the bad guys, something Turner’s aware of."

Erm...they've done a good making it look like the Red Coats are the bad guys, everything we've seen so far is Connor killing a redcoat or is pro American giving off the impression that we are the bad guys.

As I've said before for me it's not about being "offended" or having "personal issues with this....it's that it dosen't make sense STORY WISE. I know in real life things played out differently and maybe Britain shouldn't of invaded but I'm taking about the AC universe not real life.

Yeah I was that person who took the tikme during the AC games to read everything I came across and what it makes out that America is the central base for the Templars, always has been and always will been. If America was the good guys then they would of won against the templars since America won the war....but that is ridiculous because if it was the other way round it would fit into why the Assassins have declined in the present and why the Templars have more control in American and the rest of the world.

"I always find that kind of ironic because killing someone else’s ancestors is fine? Also, they were British in Assassin’s Creed 1 in the Crusades, so you were fine with that?”"

No the problem is the game is making it so obvious that the redcoats are these bad guys when asd I've already said it dosen't make sense story wise. If you had a game where it was trying to mimic real life events and stay true to them and you had the Germans being all friendly and kind making it out they are the good guys then yeah thats a problem. Every other game is fine because they stay true to real life events, if this game didn't have the whole Assassin thing going on and was just a basic America vs Britain game then I wouldn't have a problem but because I have invested a lot of my time in the story I don't think it's right to go back on what you've already said in the past games. I mean Connor is a native American and is British....the Americans would be the last side he would take in all this.

user54670074379d ago (Edited 4379d ago )

I have to admit with the hefty amount of stuff we have seen for this game, it does in fact show Connor kill no one else but the British

Your not the only one who read everything you came across during the Assassin Creed games, I did the same thing aswell and your right it does make America out to be the founding place of the Templars. It would make sense if the Redcoats were kind of the good guys because the war reminds me of the Assassins trying to go around a city and freeing them of Templar control in the AC games, however in this game it's that idea but on a much bigger scale. It feels like if the British were Assassins then they are starting the war to free America of the templar control and because they loose it results in why in the present there is hardly no Assassins left to help Desmond.

Ubisoft have given us nothing to show that it's not just about killing the British, hell even as you mentioned on the last AC3 article, Connor is wearing blue on his clothes. From the big details right down to the small ones, there is nothing to back up Ubisofts words.

If the trailer at E3, the good CGI trailer which are usualy epic, shows Connor killing more redcoats then I will know that they are lying.

TopDudeMan4379d ago

On the wiki, it says he sides with the americans. It also says his father was british and his mother was a native american. He grew up in his mother's tribe, so it's possible that he might want to kill his dad for some reason...

http://assassinscreed.wikia...

sly-Famous4379d ago

I said that this game will be about some political statment and I was right, this game will not be fun and is going to p!ss allot of people off and it will all be about racist conflict. Dont get me wrong salvery was a bad thing and never should have happened but Im just tired of the racial thing poking its head into everything.

TopDudeMan4379d ago

Well, the assassins creed games have stayed very true to history.

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Games with the dumbest NPCs

Non-playable characters in certain games are meme material, thanks to their foolish behavior. These are the big-budget games with the dumbest NPCs.

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closed_account274d ago (Edited 274d ago )

Bethesda makes the most consistently stupid NPCs, like really bad... yet I still can't help but love playing their games. Guilty pleasure, I guess. *sigh* 😩

Flawlessmic274d ago

How did redfall not make the cut.

anast273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

Every Bethesda game and Every Halo game. This list needed to have Cyberpunk somewhere.

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10 Most Peaceful Areas in Games

Here are the most peaceful areas in games that are otherwise quite violent, offering players respite from chaos in the game world.

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Babadook7280d ago

My first thought was the safe rooms in the resident evil series. When you hear that enchanting music you know you’re safe.

Killer2020UK279d ago

I literally just came here to post this. That music in the Resi 1 safe rooms is playing in my head.

Rimeskeem279d ago

I was thinking TLOU work benches. Although I remember one time where it was a false security.

closed_account279d ago

Perfect. 👌👌

I'd add the top of my highrise apartment in GTA Online. That calm, quiet peace, just knowing as soon as I step out that door I will be bombarded by 8 and 12 year olds calling each other n**** and f****, trolled by combat jets and rocket launchers.

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henbayward279d ago

The entire map of SotC is peaceful as hell. Used to just ride around exploring it.

mastershredder279d ago (Edited 279d ago )

Afterlife in Cyberpunk 2077 is a peaceful area? Erm, hands down and very hard to miss, Misty Olszewski's Esoterica is the absolute epitome of peaceful areas in that game.

raiden_188279d ago

The "last of us" deer location i found to be a welcoming respite. It was nice to not have someone trying to eat me.

RPGer279d ago

Kingdom Hearts tend to present half peaceful areas and most of them are amazing.

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'Assassin’s Creed III': Ten Years Later

With the recent reveal of Assassin’s Creed Mirage and the promise that the series will return to its roots, there hasn’t been a better time to get stuck into Assassin’s Creed’s back catalog, whether it’s replaying an old favorite or getting lost in previously looked-over classic.

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SinisterMister554d ago

Ten years later, we miss the old you, Assassin's Creed.

Popsicle553d ago (Edited 553d ago )

I really enjoyed Assassins Creed 3. My only complaint was that I didn’t enjoy when I had to switch from Connor to Desmond. It’s a personal preference, but Connor’s story was just more fun for me.

On a side note, Black flag was the most enjoyable of the AC games I played.